Is this the dumbest Halloween idea ever floated?

Is this the dumbest Halloween idea ever floated? October 30, 2018

Halloween unleashes some very scary apparitions  – personified, in the main, by hellfire-and-brimstone Christian fundamentalists bellowing dire warnings about folk dipping their toes in dangerous demonic waters.

Evangelist and foe of Satan John Ramirez is one:

But Sam or Samantha need not attend Halloween gatherings dressed as ghouls, vampires, zombies, witches and wizards and the like. Nope, according the Church of England’s National Children and Youth Adviser Mary Hawes, kids can safely partake in the revelry dressed as angels – winged little sweethearts handing out Bible verses during “trick or treat” forays.

Have some treats ready to give to people, maybe a Bible verse alongside it to show we’re not killjoys all the time – too often people are repelled by the Church for that reason.

The same report quotes Salem-based US pastor Phil Wyman as saying that Halloween is:

The most Christian festival.

Speaking at a conference organised by the Church Mission Society, he said:

Contrary to the reluctance of most people to open their doors and welcome strangers, Halloween is a unique time when doors are thrown open, people welcome strangers and there is a willingness to talk about spiritual things like good and evil, heaven and hell, angels and demons, and embark on conversations of meaning that can be tied to the gospel.

If my parents had tried to insert me into a angel costume there would have been all hell to pay.

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  • Michael Neville

    The most Christian festival.

    I was under the impression that Easter was the most Christian festival.

  • TheBookOfDavid

    Christian fundies don’t have holidays, so much as wars on holidays. The most important offensive is the current one. Looks like it’s all quiet on the Easter front at the moment.

  • TheBookOfDavid

    Bible tracts make the best Halloween treats. Whoever hands them out are sure to be the most popular folks on the block, and quite likely to be visited by angels showering the righteous homeowners generously with God’s blessing of TP, or a brightly lit bag on the doorstep containing a warm and steamy token of gratitude.

  • Some guy

    Ah yes, dog’s — er, God’s gift to the faithful.

  • Broga

    My grandchildren now talk about “trick or treat”: I suppose that is an import from Trumpworld?

  • barriejohn

    I’ve been watching Simon Sebag Montefiore’s series about Rome recently on BBC4. Rome was, pre-Constantine, an entirely pagan city, but he planted his churches on the periphery, gradually assimilating pagan customs and festivals, and gradually moved towards the centre, until paganism had been, almost imperceptibly, displaced by Christianity. Bingo!

  • barriejohn

    I eagerly await the first cuckoo calling: “He’s the reason for the season”.

  • larry parker

    “… dumbest Halloween idea ever …”
    Shaun White says ‘ hold my beer ‘.

  • Raging Bee

    Halloween is a unique time when doors are thrown open, people welcome strangers and there is a willingness to talk about spiritual things like good and evil, heaven and hell, angels and demons, and embark on conversations of meaning that can be tied to the gospel.

    Really? The most “willingness to talk about spiritual things” I’ve seen at that time of year, have been at Samhain rituals, not trick-or-treat candy-dispensing. Does this guy argue about God with all the kids who come to his house for candy? Or tell his kids to argue with everyone who gives them candy?

  • MystiqueLady

    But according to Faux Noise, Christmas is the most Christian festival.

  • WallofSleep

    “Bible tracts make the best Halloween treats.”

    I once found one in front of my garage door folded into a “bindle”, like one might use to carry around powdered, illegal drugs. My irony meter nearly exploded.

  • TheBookOfDavid

    The first hit is always free. Enjoy the Opiate of the Masses!

  • barriejohn

    Only since the Dickensian era. Before then it was all about Easter – understandably – but they’re both just appropriations of pagan festivals, once again.

  • barriejohn

    Hahaha. I used to be an evangelical, and I knew church members who armed themselves with a supply of tracts on the subject of witchcraft to hand out to the little dears who came a-knocking. Can you just imagine the kids’ unbridled joy at being told: “Here’s something that’s of far greater value than sweets or money”? I bet they were overjoyed! I also saw Christians in many “assemblies” use their children to recruit fellow-pupils at school, and even begin “Christian activities” in their schools. They could be extremely successful, teenagers being what they are, and it came as a bit of a shock to them when they moved on to college or university and came up against a brick wall of resistance to their proselytising. Many were quite convinced that all they had to do was engage people in conversation about Jesus and they would immediately be “asking him into their hearts”. It’s a sad world of delusion and self-delusion.

  • MystiqueLady

    (I know that. 😉 )

  • barriejohn

    I’m sure you do, but we know that this site is visited by those who have little grasp of these facts. I was the same when I was a young Christian, and speakers who seemed knowledgeable and authoritative assured us that there was a conspiracy to keep us from the truth, so we swallowed that. I have a pet theory that the many Winter Solstice customs of continental Europe and Scandinavia were down to the dismal, cold winters that they endured, but I may be wrong there. We in Britain did already share many of their customs even before Prince Albert arrived with his Christmas Tree and it really kicked off.

  • I come late here, but one of those idiots suggested to dress of Biblical characters. I can think on some as: Adam, Eve, and the Serpent (both naked), Cain with a dead Abel, a drunken and naked Noah, Salome with the Baptist’s head, Christ in Sephiroth mode with that fucking sword in the mouth, and of course the Whore of Babylon with the Scarlest beast.