‘Pain in the ass’ secular group scuppers planned Ark Encounter visit

‘Pain in the ass’ secular group scuppers planned Ark Encounter visit December 11, 2018

Creationist Ken Ham yesterday overcame his prissiness to post a picture on Facebook of an ‘obnoxious’ sign visible in photo of members of the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation.

Ham warned:

Normally I wouldn’t post a photo with the obnoxious sign and the language used but I want you to understand who this group of atheists really are.

Ham raided the FFRF website for this photo

What prompted his angry post is that the FFRF successfully killed off a planned visit to Ham Ark Encounter and Creation Museum in Kentucky by the Charleston Department of Parks and Recreation in Illinois.

When the FFRF learned of a staff outing that would include visits to Ham’s idiotic attractions  – due to take next autumn – they made clear to the Charleston authorities that the trip to the ark and museum was unconstitutional. A letter from FFRF attorney Ryan Jayne said:

It is a fundamental principle of Establishment Clause jurisprudence that the government may not promote, advance, or otherwise endorse religion.

The letter said that organising a trip of a religious nature sends the message that the Department of Parks and Recreation supports Ken’s Ham’s mission to:

Direct people to the word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Jayne wrote:

To avoid violating the Establishment clause, all City-sponsored events must be secular in nature … organizing a trip to a Christian museum and theme park alienates those Charleston residents who are not Christian, including the 23% of the American population who are nonreligious. Surely there are appropriate secular activities … that would not attempt to convert attendees to a particular religion.

FFRF requested that the trip either be cancelled or adjusted so as to remove the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum from the planned stops.

On its website the FFRF explains why it had opposed the trip:

Both attractions have an explicitly religious mission. The Ark Encounter, recently constructed in Kentucky, is a Christian ministry run by the creationist Ken Ham, who also built the Creationist Museum in Kentucky. Ham has been clear about the proselytizing nature of both attractions since their inception.

In his June 27, 2016, letter entitled, ‘Our Real Motive for Building Ark Encounter,’ he lays out an openly evangelical goal: ‘The [Creation] Museum and Ark direct people to the Word of God and the gospel of Jesus Christ … our motive is to do the King’s business until He comes. And that means preaching the gospel and defending the faith, so that we can reach as many souls as we can …’

Charleston City Attorney Rachael Cunningham responded to the correspondence on Tuesday to advise that the event had been cancelled.

Image via YouTube

A furious Ham, above, responded thus in a Facebook post:

If groups are organized to come to the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum in an objective fashion, to show people the world-class exhibits and one group’s interpretation regarding the origin of earth history, the trip is fine as an exceptional and voluntary educational/cultural experience.

Freedom From Religion Foundation atheists (like many liberals in politics) bully and threaten to impose their religion on the culture. Their anti-Christian zealotry results in grossly twisting the First Amendment to scare people with a total misinterpretation of the First Amendment.

If people don’t have the courage to stand up to their bullying, we’ll continue to lose the free exercise of religion (especially Christianity) in this nation.

I’m guessing that the cancellation also angered Ham because the Ark Encounter is in a jam, and he needs all the money he can get to keep it afloat. With any luck, come next autumn, it will have been sold off and put to better purpose. It would make an excellent new headquarters for the Kentucky Equality Federation.

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  • Mike De Fleuriot

    //It would make an excellent new headquarters for the Kentucky Equality Federation.//

    Only once it has been thoroughly cleansed with pixie dust to remove the hate taint from the ground.

  • Götterdämmerung

    Well done the FFRF in stopping this insidious tactic by Loopy Ham. I look forward to the day this ludicrous vanity project is burned to the ground if better use can’t be found for it.

  • GRH

    Ham just likes to matyrbate on behalf of his Jizzus

  • Broga

    Here is why we get too much religious PR and need the FFRF. The Guardian today has an article, about the syrupy and whiny Cliff Richard saying how much he benefits in his talks with God. I would sure as hell like to know how he does that whether he could give us some scientific solutions to problems still not solved. Should be easy for God. Cliff has a new album out. I could have forecast that without recourse to God.

  • ephemerol

    If groups are organized to come to the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum in an objective fashion, to show people the world-class exhibits and one group’s interpretation regarding the origin of earth history, the trip is fine as an exceptional and voluntary educational/cultural experience.

    Obviously FFRF doesn’t understand that this was just going to be a “simple private transaction.” Ham is totally not “promoting” anything, least of all a religion. /s

    (And how is one to tell whether or not they visit places in an “objective” fashion, or in any other fashion? When I go to Disneyland, do I go in an “objective” fasion? How about when I go to the grocery store? Can I stay home in an “objective” fashion? And what other fashions are available to me?)

    Freedom From Religion Foundation atheists (like many liberals in politics) bully and threaten to impose their religion on the culture. Their anti-Christian zealotry results in grossly twisting the First Amendment to scare people with a total misinterpretation of the First Amendment.

    See? It’s not me that’s promoting a religion here, it’s FFRF! /s

    If people don’t have the courage to stand up to their bullying, we’ll continue to lose the free exercise of religion (especially Christianity) in this nation.

    If people don’t have the courage to stop FFRF from freely exercising its religion, then we’ll continue to lose the free exercise of religion in this nation! /s

    Wait, whut?

  • Cozmo the Magician

    My entire wardrobe is ‘objective fashion’ if you don’t like my clothes, you are obviously a hater. O_o

  • Michael J. Simmons

    I think they can turn iy in a water park.

  • Kevin K

    Poor Porky.

  • The Antagonizer

    Anyone notice ALL the people in the picture are ether Jews or Whites (Europeans?)
    Non-Whites aren’t as obsessed with truth, or aren’t as divided against each other.
    Why?
    Evolutionary psychology. Whites are more individualistic. This is also why the West is falling.
    Whites need to rally around each other regardless of differences if they want to survive.

  • The Antagonizer

    That is a fallacy. Solving old problems will never prevent new problems from continuously arising.

  • Barry Duke

    Racist drivel. Fuck off!

  • The Antagonizer

    Well, did you notice, dick breath? Or do you pretend race doesn’t matter to avoid being called a “racist?”

  • James A. North

    “ether [sic] Jews or Whites”
    What a surprise, that in a state containing 90 percent Caucasians… should there be 2.7 people in that photo representing other human varieties?
    And how does he know they are Jews? Only one percent of Wisconsin’s residents are Jewish.
    (I simply will not reply directly to a white supremacist. I hope you don’t mind Barry. )

  • Rookheight

    Don’t comment with ignorant racist nonsense and then try to call someone out on a fallacy on the same thread. Your credibility is shot among reasonable non-bigots.

  • Jack Baynes, Sandwichmaker

    What? That CAN’T be them. Where are their horns and tails?

  • DanD

    I’d not plan a trip there a year from now because I don’t expect it to be in business a year from now.

    You know, in addition to all the suck.

  • Lark62

    flagged

  • Occam

    It would make a beautiful fishing/hunting lodge on a lake or river in Northern BC. (Not a floating one)!

  • Barry Duke

    No I certainly don’t mind James. I will not tolerate white supremacist garbage here. And I’ve blockeded “The Antagonizer”.

  • Ass means donkey. How is that language objectionable? It’s even in Ham’s bible.

  • orion dumptee

    world class exhibits ?? ha ha ha …oh PAH-LEASE! ..children feeding dinos?,,how about the (very detailed) dinosaur poop removal system ? Man this Ham is DEF 1/2 baked….

  • orion dumptee

    how bout a ‘biblically-themed’ casino ?

  • clanhamilton

    What a victim this Ark builder is.
    Oh poor me.
    Atheists won’t let me push Jesus on them.
    “You’ll get yours!!” (shakes fist angrily in the love of Christ).

  • TheBookOfDavid

    Dear Mr Ham: I’m sorry that the US Constitution is such a buzzkill. Not to worry though, the FFRF is there to assist you in following those pesky laws. If state neutrality is still an insufferable burden on your precious religious freedoms, you are invited to roll your boat-shaped church out of drydock, and sail it to a nation that panders to the privilege you deserve. I’ll even help pack your steamer trunk! Your gadfly in Christ ~TBoD

  • Rhyme and Reason

    They could call it, “Pascal’s Wager.”

  • Marc Jarett

    Thank you FFRF!

  • orion dumptee

    the slots would pay out depending on the symbols used…3 Jesus =jackpot…2 Jesus and 1 lots wife = 3.00…Peter,Paul,and 2- Corinthians..5.50… 3 ken hams..YOU LOSE ! lol…

  • NWaff

    Is it true that FFRF wants to make it illegal for government document to use the letter “t” because it resembles a cross and may cause religious thought to occur?

  • prinefan

    About as true as an imaginary man in the sky, talking snakes, supernaturally impregnated virgins, and dead people coming back to life to later come floating down out of the clouds.

  • prinefan

    Not “Anti-christian”. “Anti-Religion”. Proudly.

  • ORAXX

    Ham takes his arguments to the people least qualified to give him actual answers, and states nothing could ever change his mind. He has erected a monument to ignorance that stands as a reminder that all human progress has been achieved over the vehement objections of people like Ken Ham.

  • ORAXX

    I’ve long felt Christianity to be roughly equal parts comfort myth, and revenge fantasy.

  • Vanity Unfair

    Peter, Paul and Mary wins a new Car-car.

  • orion dumptee

    SPOT ON! lol

  • What does that mean?

  • Damon Westerfield

    I am pretty such Jordan Palmer and the Kentucky Equality Federation do not permit trash to use their office spaces.

  • Jim Oliver

    Once again !! Garbage from the Caves of desert dwelling , night terror mentality, still being perpetrated in the 21st Century . An abomination to the human condition, that has outlived any form of usefulness . Keep your religious goobly gook in your head or in your crumbling structures, that will fall to the wayside of history and will be looked upon with ,Only laughter…

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