Amazon pulls gay ‘cure’ quack’s books. Will the Bible be next?

Amazon pulls gay ‘cure’ quack’s books. Will the Bible be next? July 6, 2019

MARCH 8, 2017, was a significant date, for it saw the long-overdue demise of an American Catholic ‘therapist’ whose work in ‘curing’ homosexuality left many lives in in tatters, and may well have led to a number of suicides.

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Wayne Besen, of Truth Wins Out, said this of Dr Joseph Nicolosi, above, after the dangerous charlatan fell off the perch, aged 70:

‘Ex-gay’ therapist Joe Nicolosi is dead. I doubt he’s in a better place. I do know the earth is a better place without this noxious con artist who peddled phony cures for homosexuality.

While I hesitate to speak ill of the dead, I wonder how many LGBT teens took their own lives, or numbed their tormented minds with alcohol and drugs because Nicolosi preached that they were sick and in need of healing? How many thousands of ruined lives lie in his wake, with gay people pressured to marry straight spouses – only to have their doomed marriages end in bitter divorce?

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Despite proof from a variety of sources that Nicolosi was, in Besen’s words, “an arrogant hate-mongering demagogue”, there are those who insist that “the father of conversion therapy” as some call him, had done excellent work. One is the deranged Dr Michael L Brown, above, who writes for LifeSiteNewsand he beside himself with fury that Amazon has decided to remove Nicolosi’s books.

This Jew-for-Jesus freak said of the removal:

This leads to the logical question: Will Amazon ban the Bible next? There is no hyperbole here.

After all, it is the Bible that condemns same-sex relationships and the Bible that speaks of those who once practiced homosexuality but do so no more (see 1 Corinthians 6:9-11). These people, today, would be known as “ex-gays”. And it was Dr. Nicolosi’s life work to help people with unwanted same-sex attractions.

Why, then, should Amazon ban his books but continue to sell the Bible, which provides the theological underpinnings for Dr. Nicolosi’s scientific work?

After all, gay critics of the Bible refer to the so-called “clobber passages,” referring to verses which have been used to speak against homosexual practice. If these verses, then, have brought such harm to the gay community, why shouldn’t the book containing these verses be banned?

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He said that what makes the ban “especially frightening” was that Amazon apparently caved in to “one man”, Rojo Alan, above, who is based in England. This is pure baloney. A petition calling on the company to stop selling gay “cure” books was signed by more than 82,000 people!

 As reported on PinkNews, at first, after sharing his concerns in writing, he got no response from either Amazon or the British outlet, Wordery. But after he posted his concerns on Facebook, he got an immediate response from Wordery, which quickly pulled Nicolosi’s writings.

Amazon, however, claimed that the books did not violate their guidelines.

Alan explains that ‘since then, I had been working on getting these books pulled. I contacted Amazon regularly to speak to them about the books, about how unethical they are.’

He ‘used social-media sites to ask people to leave bad reviews of the books, and also began researching the ways in which they violated Amazon’s rules of publishing.’

Not long after this, the books were removed, and Alan was moved to tears.

Brown added:

Of course, I could produce scores of testimonies from former patients of Dr. Nicolosi who were greatly helped by his counsel. Some experienced profound changes in their attractions. Others were freed from shame and self-harm. That’s why he remained in demand until his sudden passing in 2017.

Alan declared victory in a Facebook post on July 2, saying:

On the 31st of May, I made a post on Facebook, asking all of you to help me in getting a number of homophobic books pulled from Wordery and Amazon. The main book in question was one called, ‘A parents guide to preventing homosexuality’ by Joseph Nicolosi.

I asked for people to go to each website and leave a bad review and also contact the providers if possible.

After I had messaged Wordery, they took down the said book from their website within 24 hours.

Amazon wasn’t as quick to react, but Alan said in his post that:

As of today (July 2) ALL THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE BOOKS BY JOSEPH NICOLOSI, HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE UK AND US AMAZON STORE!!!

I’m currently in Starbucks, I’m so close to crying that all my efforts seem to have paid off.

I have to thank everyone that helped out with this! Those of you that left a negative review, those that contacted Amazon themselves, and those that signed the petition.

This is such a huge fucking step in the right direction. Getting such a huge retailer to remove something like this. I feel so overcome with emotion I’m giving myself stomach cramps.

Again! Thank you to everyone that helped out with this! In whatever way you did!!!

Huff Post quoted Sam Brinton, Head of Advocacy and Government Affairs for the suicide prevention group The Trevor Project as saying:

Amazon is the nation’s largest seller of online books. It is significant that they are taking the threat of conversion therapy seriously by refusing to be a party to the exploitation of concerned parents and other customers who deserve accurate information, not DIY conversion therapy manuals that should clearly be labeled as ‘fiction’.

Brinton added:

Many of my friends and fellow survivors of conversion therapy can trace their trauma to Nicolosi. His work aimed to prove the ‘science’ of conversion therapy, even though the practice has been discredited as dangerous and harmful by medical experts for decades.

In 2009, the American Psychological Association took aim at Nicolosi’s writings and that of other conversion therapy proponents, declaring that there is “insufficient evidence” to support the idea that therapy can change sexual orientation. It also reaffirmed that same-sex attractions are:

Normal and positive variations of human sexuality.

In addition, the American Psychiatric Association stated that conversion therapy represents a “significant risk of harm”, since it subjects patients to treatment that hasn’t been scientifically validated and undermines their self-esteem when their sexual orientation fails to change.

Eighteen states have banned therapists from practicing conversion therapy on minors. Still, two out of three LGBTQ youth say someone tried to convince them to change their sexual orientation or gender identity, according to a 2019 national survey from The Trevor Project.

Youth who have undergone conversion therapy were more than twice as likely to attempt suicide as those who did not.

Even though Amazon removed several Nicolosi titles, the site is still selling many other books claiming that sexual orientation can be altered or that same-sex attractions can be diminished through therapy or prayer.

These include books by Bob Davies, former executive director of the now-defunct ex-gay organization Exodus International, and Jackie Hill Perry, an ex-lesbian hip-hop artist who is popular in conservative evangelical circles. Books about “leaving homosexuality” by Alan Chambers, a former Exodus International leader who later renounced conversion therapy, are also still being sold on Amazon.

Amazon declined to explain to HuffPost why it took action against Nicolosi’s books, while other books by ex-gay authors are allowed to remain on the site.

 


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  • WallofSleep

    The local radio wingnuts were saying the same thing about CA when they banned the practice of conversion therapy, with one (also a pastor, of course) going so far as to claim CA actually had banned the bible with this law. Dear Scients, their listeners are fools.

  • kaydenpat

    I’m glad that you pointed out that other ex-gay books are still available on Amazon. Those need to be removed as well.

  • Jim Jones

    > Of course, I could produce scores of testimonies from former patients of Dr. Nicolosi who were greatly helped by his counsel.

    No shortage of lies when dealing with Christians.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Attempts to alter sexual orientation began with a failed attempt to beat the gay out of a little boy. That alone speaks to the worth of the practice.

  • Jennifer

    Sure. I’ll be impressed when they also remove crud about beating wives or how to use women.

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    An old chap who drinks in my local is gay in the 60 they wanted him to undergo electro convulsive therapy to cure him he put is foot down and said no. chap was openly gay very brave of him

  • Eric Jameson

    Banning people never works, all you do is give them more publicity. Look what happened when Jacquie Smith, as Home Sec., banned Geert Wilders form the UK, he turned up at the airport, gave a press conference and it was all over the 6pm news. This is an own goal by Amazon and promoters of “gay rights”

  • LauraTXN

    You can buy virtually any book ever published on Amazon, including Mein Kampf, the works of Karl Marx, et.al. But for some reason, the ideas of a “wing nut” who taught that people could change their sexual behavior if they wanted to….NO! TOO DANGEROUS! …. What a joke.

  • RainbowPhoenix

    Yeah, not like the practice has been a complete failure that has directly resulted in a long line of corpses and ruined lives.

  • Sophotroph

    Except that these books are merely no longer offered for sale, rather than banned, and Amazon has succeeded.

    You have an odd worldview if you catagorize a clear win as an own goal.

  • LauraTXN

    What is your evidence for that? You are pushing a lie — nobody is espousing forced “conversions” on gay minors. The purpose of the therapy offered by Dr. Nicolosi was/is to give ADULTS an opportunity to pursue therapy to change their orientation. I know of some people who have been successful in this effort. It’s about the individual’s desire to change, so why shouldn’t they have access to therapy for that? Also, you think “Mein Kampf” didn’t result in a “long line of corpses and ruined lives”? Nonetheless, people should have access to that book because a free mind, with information about history, can see it for what it is. if Nicolosi’s work was so wrong and “dangerous,” then you and others can expose it through book reviews, etc. You cannot effectively stop the hope that some gays have for change. Therefore you want to burn a book that offers a possible pathway to change. Your attitude is like that of the Nazis in the 1930s, who thought they were protecting society by burning certain works of art and literature. I’m sorry that you can’t see that, but it doesn’t serve a valid purpose to promote censorship of books because of the ideas contained within.

  • Barry Duke

    Just as a matter of interest, would you approve of a book offering reparative therapy for HETEROSEXUALITY!
    https://youtu.be/rsVg0fFaO0Q

  • CoastalMaineBird

    I’ve been trying this for some time. Gays here in the U.S. cause hurricanes, I’m told.
    I just want to become gay enough to cause rainstorms, when I need them, but nobody can tell me the rules about how.

  • LauraTXN

    Yes, I would approve of such a book being offered for sale on Amazon, as long as it doesn’t promote any illegal activity. There are many books for sale on Amazon which I deem as promoting immoral or unhealthy behavior but I do not want Amazon to censor books. Period. Unless, as I said, they are promoting illegal activity or are illegal themselves (such as child porn).

  • smrnda

    which provides the theological underpinnings for Dr. Nicolosi’s scientific work?

    What scientific work has theological underpinnings? But I actually read some of Nicolosi’s books including the manuals for NARTH for research purposes. Despite being billed as ‘secular therapy’ the frequent Bible verses made it indistinguishable from the overly religious books promising to change orientation.

  • smrnda

    What about a book which promotes disproven ‘cures’ for medical conditions which come with high risk of adverse affects or death?

  • phatkhat

    I worked in a mental ward in the late 60s. We had a kid around 12 or so who would be trans today, but then he was “abnormal”. His father committed him because he wouldn’t play football, wanted to wear dresses, and be a girl. I really felt bad for him, because he was treated with ECT repeatedly to try to fry his brain into “normalcy”. He was a sweet kid, and I hope life turned out okay for him and he eventually got to be who he really was.

  • phatkhat

    Marx is dangerous??? LOL.

  • phatkhat

    Gays don’t change. They just go back in the closet and pretend. That makes everyone miserable except maybe homophobes. The only reason that gays would want to change is because of the horrible treatment they get at the hands of the Christers.

  • LauraTXN

    Your blanket statement about all gay people exposes a bias — we all have biases, we often cannot imagine a universe in which people’s desires and yearnings are different from our own. However, that’s a fundamental short-sightedness. People DO exist whose thinking is beyond our own imagining. I know of men and women who yearned to quit having sex with their own gender — not because of the way they were treated by the “Christian society,” but because of something much deeper, something inside of them. It’s not up to you to judge other people’s desires to go in a different direction from the one you are going.

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    It really was a vile way of treating people. We have moved on since then but the scourge of”gay cures” is still around and with a lot of the evil in the world religiously motivated.