‘Oh crumbs, it’s all true’: ex-Lib Dem leader speaks about his faith

‘Oh crumbs, it’s all true’: ex-Lib Dem leader speaks about his faith July 24, 2019
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TIM Farron, a devout Christian who resigned as leader of the UK’s Liberal Democrat Party in 2017 because he was being pressurised by the media to make clear his views on homosexuality, says in YouTube video posted today that he’s not the sort of person who would ‘fall for ‘religious nonsense.’

Farron, who repeatedly dodged questions about his views on homosexuality during the 2017 General Election campaign, says he once viewed Christianity as:

A bit weird, unattractive and restrictive. I did not see myself as the kind of dupe who’d fall for religious nonsense. And I still don’t consider myself the kind of dupe who falls for religious nonsense, but I think by the grace of God I’m someone who knows the truth when he sees it.

Farron got bitten by the Jesus bug as a teenager while living in Singapore.

My new bedroom still had stuff in it from the previous tenants who were Christians. It rained quite a lot, and so I read a whole bunch of books they’d left there. You’d probably categorise them as apologetics and prophecy. I remember reading stuff about Daniel. The penny dropped with me: ‘Oh crumbs, it’s all true.’

In an interview with Premier, Farron also spoke of the “trials and tribulations” he experienced while leading his party.

After he resigned he said he had spent weeks dodging the question but eventually declared that gay sex was not sinful. He wanted to draw a line under the issue, which led to him “foolishly and wrongly” giving an answer that was “frankly not right”.

Farron said part of the problem was that there were too few Christians in the Liberal Democrats to help advise him.

I had a wonderful team around me at HQ but, with one exception, there were no Christians. It was not their fault they didn’t understand the issue. I felt my choice was to be a bad leader or a bad Christian, and that’s a rubbish choice, so let’s not be leader and seek to be faithful.

He also said:

A better, wiser person than me may have been able to deal with this more successfully, to have remained faithful to Christ while leading a political party in the current environment. To be a political leader – especially of a progressive, liberal party in 2017 – and to live as a committed Christian, to hold faithfully to the Bible’s teaching, has felt impossible for me.

Farron told Premier:

If I’d not been through the trials and tribulations of my leadership, I’d not be in the position that I am in now where I can openly talk about my faith. If you’ve given up the thing that you most wanted to achieve in life – for me it was being leader of my party – because there’s something more important, it’s so important you then focus on that thing, which is following Jesus.

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  • Raging Bee

    That says a lot about Labour’s performance and credibility in recent years.

  • Götterdämmerung

    “Too few Christians in the Liberal Democrats” probably because most Lib-Dems are intelligent freethinkers. Farron was the reason I quit the party.

  • Michael Neville

    So Faron was a homophobe who knew that it would be political suicide to admit it. So he lied, making the worst of the situation. Sooner or later that sort of lie becomes obvious and that’s when it really bites one in the buttocks, especially when the lie was said to cover up some failing,

  • jebh

    No – they are self-serving power grubbers who demonstrated that fact durng the Cameron-Clegg coalition. Remember that?

  • ephemerol

    Censor fail 1…

  • ephemerol

    Nоt pеrhаpѕ а gооd lооk tо ѕау уоᴜ dоn’t соnѕіdеr уоᴜrѕеlf thе kіnd оf dᴜpе ᴡhо ᴡоᴜld fаll fоr rеlіgіоᴜѕ nоnѕеnѕе, іmmеdіаtеlу аftеr jᴜѕt hаᴠіng rеlаtеd thе еᴠеnt іn ᴡhісh уоᴜ rеаd а bᴜnсh оf rеlіgіоᴜѕ nоnѕеnѕе аnd ᴡеrе dᴜpеd bу іt.

    It’ѕ lіkе ѕауіng thаt уоᴜ саn tеll hоᴡ trᴜѕtᴡоrthу pеоplе аrе bу thе соlоᴜr оf thеіr ѕkіn, аnd thеn ѕауіng thаt уоᴜ hаᴠеn’t а rасіѕt bоnе іn уоᴜr bоdу, аnd іf уоᴜ dіd, уоᴜ ᴡоᴜld, оf соᴜrѕе, bе thе fіrѕt tо knоᴡ іt.

    Eіthеr уоᴜ’ᴠе jᴜѕt tоld еᴠеrуоnе уоᴜr ѕеlf аᴡаrеnеѕѕ іѕ bоg ѕtаndаrd, уоᴜr bᴜlb dоеѕn’t ѕhіnе brіght еnоᴜgh tо knоᴡ thе trᴜth ᴡhеn уоᴜ ѕее іt, оr mоrе lіkеlу, bоth.

  • Raging Bee

    Spineless excuses for past spinelessness…

  • Raging Bee

    Was he that much of a homophobe himself? Or did he just fall in with bigots who roped him into swallowing their bigoted package without chewing? I’m not trying to excuse him, mind you, just wondering what really led to what.

  • Raging Bee

    I remember when they 69pissed away all their credibility by siding with the Tories instead of Labour. I wonder how much of UK’s present troubles could have been avoided had the LibDems made the opposite choice back then…

  • Graham Martin-Royle

    LibDem Labour coalition would still have been a minority which is why it didn’t happen.

  • Eric Jameson

    Humanly speaking, no-one would believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour BUT when the Holy Spirit moves upon people then they do so. Clearly that is what happened to Tim Farron.

  • Eric Jameson

    The real bigots were those who hounded one of the most decent men in politics..

  • barriejohn

    Plus, you can’t prop up a government which has just been rejected by the public, as Ted Heath discovered. Another pact of some kind might have been just about bearable (Cameron identifying as economically and socially liberal), but coalition was suicide!

  • Broga

    “I remember reading stuff about Daniel. The penny dropped with me: ‘Oh crumbs, it’s all true.’

    Does that include all the bits that contradict each other? Crumbs would be all that was left of Daniel after the lion had him for dinner.

  • barriejohn

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if those Christians in Singapore were Plymouth Brethren, as they are very strong in that area, as are other evangelicals of course. They are also very keen on Daniel’s “prophecy”, and I wonder whether one of those books that he read was Dr Tatford’s, a copy of which most of us possessed in the 60s/70s. It “proves”, naturally, that the book was not written retrospectively, and so refers to coming events and not historic ones. Tatford was a senior civil servant at the UKAEA, actually, and not an historian or archaeologist, but was considered something of an authority on Biblical prophecy in those days. He also edited magazines (busy man!), including The Prophetic Witness. They take all this very seriously indeed, and it’s by no manner of means “religious nonsense”!

    https://www.amazon.com/Climax-Ages-Studies-Prophecy-Daniel/dp/B0007FU3HS

    So far as the Book of Daniel is concerned, the most important feature of the futurist interpretation is the placing of the present dispensation as a parenthesis between the sixty-ninth and seventieth “weeks” of Dan. 9. From this follows the corollary that Daniel’s prophecies regarding the “end-time” relate to the period subsequent to the removal of the Church from the world at the Second Coming of our Lord. This is the view adopted in this book.

  • Broga

    My enthusiasm for Daniel began and ended with the lion. From time to time I met Christians who gave far more importance to Daniel than I could understand. I think I begin to see why. I remember one of them, whenever challenged and asked how he could believe what he claimed, always had the same response, “Dare to be a Daniel.” That was it. He was a Methodist.

  • Karl Dubhe

    That’s an interesting claim…

    Does that mean that your Holy Spirit actively denies free will in humans?

    To my eyes, you’re admitting that only the insane would believe in Jesus; or any other god…

  • rubaxter

    The Lib Dems have more than Jee&#8203bus as a problem, and your poll results have been superceded several times.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c5807843e461afaee02558806f3b96d240429f66f3d17ef6d2cf975e6c56a738.jpg

    From: https://ukpollingreport.co.uk/

    By this, they couldn’t win a 3rd past the post except in the Outback of the UK. The Brexit Party is polling a good 3rd now, behind the Tories and Labour.

    The Lib Dems gave away their mojo and will continue to lose until they wash away the stain of the betrayal all their voters felt when they became the Tories’ coalition “Vote Bit&#8203ches”, helping feck&#8203wits Porky Cameron and Chinless Wonder Osborne nailgun ‘austerity’ onto the foreheads of the Middle and Lower Classes. Quite frankly, The Thick of It was FAR too kind to the LDs in their portrayals of them.

    Oh, and they also helped make Brexit a Thing by keeping the Tories in power and who&#8203ing themselves so blatantly that the next election made the Tories a majority all by themselves while the Lib Dems went down in flames.

    Clegg did the heavy lifting in that, but Farron continued the march to the bottom by making FOOLS of the small van-load of remaining LDs with his dithering and lack of any spine.

    I wish it wasn’t so, but that’s what I read and hear, everywhere. They’d need a Farron Christer Miracle, and they seem to have discarded him?

  • kaydenpat

    Agreed. Lib Dems getting into a coalition with Conservatives only helped the rightwing agenda. I’m not aware of any legislative victories Lib Dems got out of that arrangement.

  • Eric Jameson

    Thank you for your interesting question.

    Humanly speaking, no-one will believe in Jesus and the cross (1st Corinthians 1 v 18) because the message of the cross is foolishness – however, all those who have been “ordained to eternal life” will believe (Acts 13 v 48).

  • Karl Dubhe

    Which means your God is evil. He creates people in order to torture them forever.

    That’s not ‘humane’, dude. That’s psychopathic.

    Thanks for your response, it confirms my opinion of the ‘morality’ of religion. Worship an evil god, become as evil as he is.

  • Jim Jones

    He looks gay to me — not a joke.

  • Jim Jones

    Delusion is a powerful drug.