Christian Institute blasts BBC over gay wedding on ‘Songs of Praise’

Christian Institute blasts BBC over gay wedding on ‘Songs of Praise’ September 6, 2019

UK anti-gay hate group, the Christian Institute, has added its voice to the many who have blasted the BBC for showing a gay wedding on its religious programme Songs of Praise.

Image via BBC/YouTube

The CI, in reporting that the BBC had received 1,238 complaints over the inclusion of the wedding between Jamie Wallace and Ian McDowall at Rutherglen United Reformed Church near Glasgow, said that “viewers strongly objected” but that the BBC defended the programme, saying almost 400 people had written letters of support – “less than a third of those who complained.”

During the programme, presenter Kate Bottley described the United Reformed Church’s decision to redefine marriage as “momentous”.

The couple were able to speak without challenge, with Mr Wallace justifying his stance by saying:

Jesus preaches about love and inclusion, kindness, compassion.

The Christian Institute’s Deputy Director for Communications Ciarán Kelly said:

That’s a huge number of complaints. Whether the BBC have enough humility to take them on board remains to be seen.

When the decision was taken to make this episode, producers must have known that the Christian faith teaches that marriage is between one man and one woman.

With just ten minutes’ research they would have discovered that 99.5 per cent of places of worship in England and Wales don’t conduct same-sex weddings.

The programme only featured three stories, and yet the BBC still chose one of them to promote same-sex marriage.

Image via the Christian Institute/YouTube

His words were parroted by Simon Calvert, above, Deputy Director of the CI, who added in this video that the BBC had “misused” its programme by promoting “LGBT marriage and politics” and that that it would have been “deeply offensive” to a lot pf people.

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  • Joe_Buddha

    I find the comments of these bigots hugely offensive.

  • Broga

    These sick complainers, miserable themselves, spend their time trying to deny anyone else a bit of happiness. What has a gay wedding got to do with them? If they cannot be generous they could at least not interfere and let people get on with their lives. But no, they just have to attempt to force people to follow the contradictory, cruel, selective and incredible rules they have extracted from the “biblical truth” of their fading religion.

    The churches are sparsely attended apart from the few elderly who still turn up. A year ago a friend told me that the church he attends was packed for “Songs of Praise” and almost empty the following week. Doesn’t their bible say “Judge not that you be not judged.” That is ignored as they would lose the pleasure of hurting others.

    Matthew 7. [1] “Judge not, that ye be not judged. [2] For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. [3] And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

    I never watch “Songs of Praise” and I am puzzled that a gay couple, who seem so rejected by their religion, want to be on Songs of Praise or inside a church.

  • argyranthemum

    Well, I did a quick search, and the Church of England allows same-sex marriage. What percentage of churches in England are CoE? I know belief is lower in England than the U.S., but many people are members without attending except for those two pillars of nonbeliever church attendance, funerals and — wait for it — weddings. So the Christian Institute is talking out of their derrieres.

  • larry parker

    Next thing you know, England will get kicked out of the EU.

  • Jim Jones

    > When the decision was taken to make this episode, producers must have known that the Christian faith teaches that marriage is between one man and one woman.

    Biblical marriage is one man and as many wives, concubines and sex slaves (of either sex) as he can afford.

  • kaydenpat

    Given how many people watched the program, is less than 1300 really a huge number of complaints? I assume that the vast majority of British people are perfectly okay with same sex marriages.

  • kaydenpat

    Lol!! Boris Johnson might like that joke.

  • guerillasurgeon

    Puritanism. The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy.” Wassamatter? They’re both wearing skirts right?

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    We’re a bit more progressive in Scotland: humanist (HSS) weddings – legal since 2005 plus civil partnerships when that came in. I’m considering becoming a celebrant myself. It has been pushed for in England and Wales but there’s been push back. Might have something to do with Anglican clergy automatically getting a number of seats in The House of Lords – upper chamber though it’s only a reviewing chamber, it can’t permanently block bills.
    The BBC, though I don’t have details of it’s charter, has to be inclusive and not show unbalanced views. It’s a QUANGO: quasi autonomous non governmental organisation. Set up by government then given roughly effective independence. This church has obviously also struck a balance so I’d say to this organisation and spokesperson:
    Me. Are you a member of this church?
    Answ. No.
    Me. Well it’s nothing to do with you so shut up.

    Sorry if some people know some or all of the above but we are an international readership.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    And possibly no underwear! “Are you a true Scotsman?” meaning do wear nothing under the kilt. It’s actually nonsense since it stems from the days of the forerunner of the modern kilt before knickers (men and women’s) had been invented. This was a plaid, basically a blanket wrapped round the body and held in place with a belt. The excess material was then wrapped round the torso and over the shoulder. A vestige of this can sometimes be seen: a piece of tartan is pinned to the front of the jacket at the shoulder.
    Don’t have highland rig yet myself – a kilt alone costs about £600!

  • I wouldn’t be surprised if they figure the Anglicans aren’t real Christians.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    Not in this case (and church) because the church, apparently, conducted it.

  • persephone

    There’s a company here called utilikilts (utilikilts.com) that are much less expensive, as they’re everyday wear.

    I did see a video recently of a man putting together a traditional kilt. He laid out the fabric, pleated it, lay on it and belted it, then pulled the excess over his torso. It was pretty cool. I can understand why some would prefer the modern pre-made, fitted style.

  • persephone

    The people is doesn’t bother aren’t going to say anything, usually. I agree that that small a number of complaints is proof that there aren’t that many wingnuts.

  • Jim Jones

    Hate the haters.

  • Michael Neville

    So the Christian Institute is against two people showing their love for each other. That tells me that Kelly, Calvert et al are a bunch of hating bigots.

  • barriejohn

    “Biblical marriage” is a joke. Do they also support the Biblical view of slavery?

  • Jim Jones

    They are, of course, describing Victorian marriage. And that came in when the UK had more pro​stit​utes than at any time before or since. Hypocrisy was at the core.

  • Are you disputing that the BBC often does promote LGBT dogma?

  • Jennny

    I haven’t the faintest idea, not a clue, none, nada, zilch, zero, nothing…as to what ”LGBT dogma” might be.

  • I’ve come across this problem before. People often react with sheer incomprehension when the teachings of their own favoured school of thought about metaphysics, pre-scientific speculation, ethics etc, which they believe, are described as teachings (or ideology, doctrine, or dogma), an idea they understand readily enough when it comes to the contradictory teachings of opposing schools of thought, in which they do not believe.

    dogma
    /ˈdɒɡmə/
    noun
    a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.
    “the dogmas of faith”
    synonyms: teaching, belief, conviction, tenet, principle, ethic, precept, maxim, article of faith, canon, law, rule; creed, credo, code of belief, set of beliefs, set of principles, doctrine, ideology, orthodoxy
    “a dogma of the Sikh religion”
    blind faith, unquestioning belief, certainty, invincible conviction, unchallengeable conviction, arrogant conviction
    “they were urged to emancipate their minds from the fetters of dogma”

    An example of LGBT dogma, is the dualistic doctrine that humans have abstract souls that inhabit their material bodies, which are either of the same sex as their bodies, or of the opposite sex from the bodies, states of being that are labelled “cis” and “trans” respectively.

  • ManxStuart

    There are still 1,238 churchgoers in the UK?
    Sad. Seems evolution just isn’t happening fast enough.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    Thanks. I’ll have a look but for functions I’d like a quality wool kilt. Then there’s:
    Jacket (Argyle?), waistcoat, sporran, belt, ghillie brogues, hose, flashes, skin dubh and kilt pin.
    If you want black tie you need to add:
    Prince Charlie jacket, waistcoat, wing collar shirt and black tie.
    On top of all this, there’s the tartan. I’ve discovered I now have four name tartans. I don’t know if the most recent is available but the other three don’t seem to be. If I wanted one (preferably the earliest) I’d need to commission the weaving of a bolt of cloth, keep some for personal use and try and sell off kilt/ skirt lengths.
    It adds up!

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    perhaps that’s the problem they probably think only one should have a skirt

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    £600 for a kilt blooming heck that’s a lot of beer

  • Mike Panic

    I cannot do alcohol anymore so have one for me!

  • Mike Panic

    “Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe” by John Boswell.

    https://www.amazon.com/Same-Sex-Unions-Premodern-Europe-Boswell/dp/0679751645

  • barriejohn

    Thankfully, humanist funerals are becoming much more popular in the UK now, and, as one finds oneself attending more and more funerals as one gets older, it is a blessed relief to be spared the “Safe in the arms of Jesus” drivel.

  • Mike Panic

    Just W The F is this LGBT “dogma” you speak of? Seeking equality under law
    is “dogma?” Religion started bossing everyone around thousands of years
    ago in the name of a mythical godthing.. Now you declare Gays guilty of
    forcing dogma? Cue the contemptuous laughter, please.

  • Mike Panic

    Explain LGBT “dogma.” Unless you consider equality the same as dogma?

  • barriejohn

    He’s a troll, who was as happy as Larry when he found another unsuspecting secular blog that would allow him to spout his tiresome nonsense (look him up on the internet and you’ll have a whale of a time). The funniest thing, surely, is the idea that we believe that trans people’s “material bodies” contain a “soul” of different gender. That’s a new one on me!

  • Mike Panic

    Thank you.

  • The funniest thing, surely, is the idea that we believe that trans people’s “material bodies” contain a “soul” of different gender. That’s a new one on me!

    Trapped in the wrong body
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/lifestyle/9672241/Trapped-in-the-Wrong-Body.html

  • Dogma is what one delivers when lecturing a sceptic, for example after accusing him of “ignorance”. LGBT authorities often accuse those who contradict their teachings of “ignorance” and set about gaysplaining “a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true” (the definition of “dogma” cited above).

    Other examples of LGBT dogma: Trans women are women; nobody chooses to be gay; there is something innate, biological and immutable, which is not directly measurable, called sexual orientation, which deterministically causes individuals’ expressed sexual preferences, which are themselves unchosen; gay people exist; there have always been gay people; heternormativity analogous to left-handedness; LGBT is like a race; there are LGBT rights; LGBT rights are about equality; sexual preferences are part of identity.

    LGBT isn’t against religion. It *is* a religion.

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    I will next time I visit my favourite ale house

  • Barry Duke

    Seeing you’ve chosen to ignore my warning yesterday to refrain from plastering this site with your idiotic comments, you are now banned.

  • Mike Panic

    We worship in what church? We worship what supernaturl god? We follow what holy book of god??

    Edit to add. I noticed below that john allman is no more. Oh well. How many site is he banned from now?

  • persephone

    They’re great, and I love a man in a kilt, but the expense is unreal. Another thing to blame on Queen Victoria.