Virgin Mary ‘lied’ when she said ‘I got pregnant by a magical ghost’

Virgin Mary ‘lied’ when she said ‘I got pregnant by a magical ghost’ September 20, 2019

CHRISTIANS in Australia are prancing around in a rage because a radio host said that the Virgin Mary ‘lied’ about her pregnancy and the people who believe the biblical myth are ‘as thick as dog shit.’

Kyle Sandilands offered his version of the virgin birth during a segment on KIIS FM’s “The Kyle and Jackie O Show”.

In reporting this story the Daily Mail made the blunder of saying “the Immaculate Conception” had been ridiculed.

The Immaculate Conception – some rightly call it the “Immaculate Deception” – refers to Mary having been born free of “Original Sin” and has bugger-all to do with presenter’s claim that, in fact:

Mary got knocked up behind a camel shed.

Sandilands elaborated:

And the mother lied obviously and told everyone, ‘Nah, I got pregnant by a magical ghost’. Bullshit. Someone chock-a-blocked her behind the camel shed!’

You might believe everything that’s written down 2,000 years ago to be absolutely accurate and good on you … you’re dumb. Dumb as dog shit.

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Horrified faith-heads lost no time in slamming Sandilands. One listener complained:

Low life scumbags @kyleandjackieo think they are funny when they mock the Virgin Mary who many Faiths believe in.

Another wailed:

That’s why the world turns to shit because people have no religion and they don’t respect other people’s beliefs even if they do.

A third added:

Kyle we are going to pray for you. You are not well and need help. Everyone will pray for you. May God have mercy on you Kyle.

And a Sydney man, Charlie Bakhos, said:

You offended Christians, Muslims, people of faith. You called the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ names, you accused her of sex, you said some disgusting things.

Bakhos concluded by telling listeners to call into the KIIS FM studios and complain to management.

German atheist Karlheinz Deschner once wrote:

Is it not grotesque when the representatives of an antiquated myth-sorcery, who believes in trinity, angels, devils, hell, virgin-birth, bodily Ascension, making of water into wine, wine to blood, – when they want to impress us with their ‘science?


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  • Tawreos

    CHRISTIANS in Australian are prancing around in a rage because a radio host said that the Virgin Mary ‘lied’ about her pregnancy and the people who believe the biblical myth are ‘as thick as dog shit.’

    The truth has been known to be painful.

  • CoastalMaineBird

    Which is why it has to be avoided at all costs.

  • Broga

    ” people of faith.”

    The “people of faith” usually creep in somewhere and, at that point, all challenge, all ridicule, anything less than total respect for these sanctimonious whiners is unacceptable to them.. When needing to defend their deranged claims, any faith will do. No need for anything other than they are all people of faith. Let any of the specific religions achieve sufficient power and they will discover that all they others are untrue and happily slaughter them.

    That they accept as fact that a woman becomes pregnant as a result of being impregnated by a God, and insist on this in 2019, defies all common sense. The myth is not the first version of its type. Like much else the Christians filched it from many that went before. As the years passed the initial versions continued to be rewritten, often to fit in with prophesies, and a good scam was to say that Mathew, Mark, Luke and John (Jesus best buddies) were written by these illiterates who, in whatever form or fiction they existed, were unlikely to be able to read or write.

    And not content with believing this nonsense themselves, they insist the rest of us must also do so and behave in accordance with their crazy beliefs.

  • The real Jesus(if there was one) might be upset to learn he is believed to be the product of his mother having sex before marriage with God.

  • dariofprsia

    Just to nitpick, the “immaculate conception” was not jesus’s, but Mary’s, as she was free of original sin since her own conception.
    It’s a common mis-conception.

  • CoastalMaineBird

    Myth-conception?

  • anxionnat

    To more or less quote Hitchens: Is it more likely that the laws of biology and chemistry should all be violated, or that a Jewish minx should tell a lie? (I think he was quoting someone else.)

  • persephone

    Kyle we are going to pray for you. You are not well and need help. Everyone will pray for you. May God have mercy on you Kyle.

    I’ve gotten the same basic response here, on Twitter, on other Patheos sites. They’ve got nothing new, no grounds for their belief, but they have to believe we’re the unbalanced ones or their house of rotten cards falls apart.

  • WallofSleep
  • barriejohn

    And only two of the gospels make reference to this important, foundation truth, anyway (each of which has a completely different account of the birth of Jesus). Paul never mentions it. Mary, as Wikipedia acidly points out, seems to completely forget about the whole episode when she expresses surprise at Jesus’s divine powers. You’d think the penny would have dropped, wouldn’t you?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_birth_of_Jesus#Historicity_and_sources_of_the_narratives

  • Broga

    I have just read an interview with Richard Dawkins in this week’s “New Scientist.” He makes similar points amongst other comments. I’m just pleased that they get such international publicity in the magazine although I suppose he must be largely “preaching to the converted”.

    In another article a neuro-scientist tackles the “hard problem” of consciousness. If they think that is a “hard problem” what about the hard problem of the soul? Neither the soul nor God gets a mention.

  • DogGone

    Duh. LOL. Creative girl.

  • Facebook User

    The Christians remind us that the New Testament teaches that Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit so he had no human father. Catholics say that Mary the mother of Jesus was a life-long virgin who never even had sex with her husband Joseph.

    Nobody doubts that the gospel writers had to be influenced by supernaturalist biographies from Greece and Rome. Plutarch for example in his life story of Romulus and Alexander the Great felt he should glorify these heroes with two conceptions. They had a magical supernatural one and also a natural one. Or to be clearer, the natural conception was told but then there was a mythological retelling. Some think that with Jesus who may have been fathered by Joseph, we are only getting the supernatural story. The natural version could be lost. It is not clear that Joseph was the father. A strong rumour blamed a Roman soldier called Pantera.

    Nothing alters the fact that God would not want us believing in a miracle just because documents written after the alleged event say it happened. That is paradoxically disrespecting the miracle if it really happened. The miracle of God who is master of nature would naturally have to respect nature and evidence which means if all that is left is hearsay or texts then God plainly does not need us or want us to believe in the miracle. God will use evidence and nature and the miracle to teach us. To depend on texts denies their relationship and denies God. James Tabor has made many good points about Pantera, the alleged father of Jesus.

    Jewish tradition said that Jesus was born of unlawful sex between Mary and a Roman soldier called Pantera. The context of the rumour is that Mary the mother of Jesus had loose sexual morals. There is no indication in the story that she was raped.

    Celsus in 178 AD provides us with the earliest written version of the Pantera story. He says that Mary had Jesus by a Roman soldier called Pantera and was driven away by her husband for adultery. “Let us return, however, to the words put into the mouth of the Jew, where “the mother of Jesus” is described as having been “turned out by the carpenter who was betrothed to her, as she had been convicted of adultery and had a child by a certain soldier named Panthera”.
    Tabor observes that Celsus got the story from Jewish circles.

    The gospels say that Mary and her husband Joseph did not separate but here we have the detail that they did. Joseph does vanish after the time of the pregnancy in the New Testament. The gospel stories that say they stayed married are full of holes. For example, Joseph allegedly took her on a trek when she was heavily pregnant to register in a census. The lies take away any credibility. Jesus was called son of Mary as if there was no known father of any kind not even a step-father.

  • Ann Kah

    I think it was Hitchens who said “Which is more probable, that all the laws of nature were suspended, or that a pregnant Jewish girl told a lie?”

    Whoops, sorry, I see somebody beat me to it.

  • Gord O’Mitey

    Hi, it’s yer lovin’ Almighty Lord Gord here, eh. &#8203

    Now, lookit! Y’all better listen up, eh. If I could wrestle with Jacob, (Genesis 32:22 ff. ), then I could knock-up Mary, eh. An’ doncha ferget, man wus made in My image, man has a feckin’ penis, so it follows that I do, but Mine’s much bigger, eh. So My boy Jeez wus born by immaculate feckin’ conception.

  • Old Harry

    He needs to apologize for the insult.

    My parents dog has fairly loose stools when it eats liver-based dog food.

    And, Deschner for got making wine into water, although it may not be a particularly rare miracle, especially if you start with an Australian wine.

  • Old Harry

    How would anybody know she was without original sin? It is, per se, an irrelevance.

  • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

    We’ll have to discuss that with Bristol Palin… 😉

  • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

    mis-conception

    ^^^ISWYDT…

  • HFR

    People of faith? These people do not have a faith or a belief, they have a superstition! Look up the word superstition in a dictionary!

  • BlueSurgeon

    Correct, people confuse this with Jesus’ “incarnation”.

  • David Cromie

    So much for ‘original sin’.

  • Silverwolf13

    This was a time when there was widespread belief that divine beings frequently came down to have sex with human women. This was a very handy excuse for women who found themselves unexpectedly pregnant—“Well, he sure was hung like a god.”

  • Silverwolf13

    Goddesses were able to renew their virginity. Aphrodite went down to wash in the sea after every assignation. She was a frequent swimmer.

    Note that the name “Mary” is taken from the Latin “mare,” meaning “the sea.” Mediterranean area gods and goddesses were frequently said to have been born from water. Compare Moses being taken from the Nile.

  • Lurker111

    Here ya go:

    https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.272339217.1808/flat,1000×1000,075,f.jpg

    Not certain where Joseph got the typewriter.

  • More likely someone like Tiberius Julius Abdes Pantera (/pænˈtɛrə/; c. 22 BC – AD 40) to be the impregnator, rather than a mythical Holy Ghost.

  • Yeah – like who’d be likely to believe that a pregnancy was the result of a coupling with a swan?

    Leda and the Swan
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leda_and_the_Swan

    QUOTE: “(in) many versions of the story, Zeus took the form of a swan and seduced Leda on the same night she slept with her husband King Tyndareus. In some versions, she laid two eggs from which the children hatched. UN-QUOTE

  • I find this use of the word “Faith” can be easily exchanged with the word “Gullibility”.

    QUOTE:
    (from the Oxford Dictionary)

    Faith
    Complete trust or confidence in someone or something
    Strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof

    Credulous
    A tendency to be too ready to believe that something is real or true

    Gullible
    Easily persuaded to believe something; credulous
    Gullibility is a failure of social intelligence in which a person is easily tricked or manipulated into an ill-advised course of action. It is closely related to credulity, which is the tendency to believe unlikely propositions that are unsupported by evidence

    UN-QUOTE