Third UK city pulls plug on ‘persecuted’ Franklin Graham’s mission

Third UK city pulls plug on ‘persecuted’ Franklin Graham’s mission January 29, 2020

UPDATE: January 30, 2020.  Glasgow has become the fourth UK city to axe Graham’s booking.

SHEFFIELD and London have followed Liverpool’s lead in saying an emphatic NO to his planned appearance in the city later this year.

He was due to speak at Sheffield Arena on 6 June but the venue operator said today it did “not endorse” his views.

The visit was cancelled after discussions with arena operators Sheffield City Trust.

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Leader of Sheffield City Council Julie Dore, above, said:

All my life I have worked hard to fight discrimination and have worked with communities, especially in my time as leader, to make sure we have an inclusive, tolerant and cohesive city that embraces diversity.

Franklin Graham, who has demonstrated his intent on creating divisions with his discriminatory and repulsive views, could affect the long-established values that we all hold so dear in Sheffield.

More than 22 representatives of the city’s LGBT+ community had signed a protest letter against his visit saying Graham:

Has repeatedly publicly promoted his homophobic beliefs.

Councillors also wrote a cross-party letter to organisers warning the visit could lead to protests.

A petition calling for him to be barred from the O2 Arena was closed yesterday after the venue decided he was not welcome.

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Meanwhile, Graham, above, has predictably played the “persecution” card, saying in a statement to Newsweek:

For some time I have been planning to come and preach the Gospel in eight cities across the UK in 2020. Hundreds of churches are working with the Graham Tour UK and praying for these events

Some people have said I am going to bring hateful speech to the UK, but this couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m coming to the UK to speak about God’s love through His Son Jesus Christ. Jesus didn’t come to condemn the world – He came to save it. The Gospel is timeless, and Bible-believing Christians in the UK have proclaimed it for centuries.

The preacher then said that he believed that he and other evangelicals were being:

Discriminated against because of our religious beliefs. Cancelling venue contracts based on the demands of one very vocal group, without consideration for the views and rights of the Christians who contracted for the venue, including the views of thousands of other Christians who support it and who would be negatively impacted, does far more to harm and divide society than simply letting the events go on as planned.

It is wrong for venue managers and local officials to make a decision that disadvantages Christians. It is our hope that venues will allow contracts to remain unchanged.

In Monday the millionaire evangelist (net worth $25-m) used Facebook to deliver an open letter to the LGBTQ community on which he blathered on about “sin”:

It is said by some that I am coming to the UK to bring hateful speech to your community. This is just not true. I am coming to share the Gospel …  The rub, I think, comes in whether God defines homosexuality as sin. The answer is yes. But God goes even further than that, to say that we are all sinners – myself included. The Bible says that every human being is guilty of sin and in need of forgiveness and cleansing. The penalty of sin is spiritual death – separation from God for eternity.

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  • Raging Bee

    For some time I have been planning to come and preach the Gospel in eight cities across the UK in 2020.

    Yeah, because no one in the British Isles has ever before heard the Gospel preached since 1066!

  • Raging Bee

    Oh, and Scotland is still a dark country with lots of homsekshals.

  • nmgirl

    Yet this omnipotent goD did not see fit to mention homosexuality in the 10 suggestions or to his son.

  • Cozmo the Magician

    Ohh.. pooor widdle frankie. being perseekuted. Yeah, I’m sure he is being denied housing, job, family, medical care, legal representation, and even the right to SHOP in a bakery… Unlike those uppity elitist gays who get everything handed to them on a silver platter.

  • GOOD. Let him whine.

  • Anne Fenwick

    The rub, I think, comes in whether God defines homosexuality as sin.

    The rub comes in the fact that no such being exists. That pretty much invalidates it as an excuse for hate speech. In which, btw, I include this sort of thing:

    The Bible says that every human being is guilty of sin and in need of forgiveness and cleansing.

  • nydiva

    If there are hundreds of churches in these cities, then why is it necessary for Mr. Graham to hold revival services? What is he going to say or do that they can’t? I’m glad the city councils are barring this religious nusiance. Human rights are human rights. It’s time to stop demonizing gay folks based on what the Bible says.

  • Kaja

    ‘the millionaire evangelist (net worth $25 million)’

    Matt.6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust does corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal
    Matt. 6:24 You cannot serve God and mammon
    Matt.10:8 freely you have received, freely give.
    Matt. 10:21 If you will be perfect, go and sell that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven: and come and
    follow me.
    Matt.19:24 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

    Yeah, all of this and we’re not even finished with the Gospel of Matthew. seems that the only ‘sin’ that counts to Graham and his followers is what the ‘others’ do. When it comes to greed/love of money…crickets.

  • Robert McLean

    The problem, for many, including myself is the “We’re all sinners” silliness. While far from perfect, my degree of ‘sin’ is something I need to deal with, not some mythical sky fairy because, and it’s obvious, there is no god and if Jesus was ever a thing, the poor thing was unable to even save himself, so in terms of saving ‘other’ sinners, being dead, he’s not off to a good start. So sorry Mr Graham, your sell, is nonsense.

  • Jim Jones

    He exploits little children to make himself very wealthy indeed.

  • Jim Jones

    Search “lyings of a woman”
    Search (centurion pais)

  • Arthur F. Meincke

    Charlatans & Con artists

  • Raging Bee

    That’s basically a dodge: a Christian preacher will thunder his stupid hateful nonsense to his flock and pretend he speaks with God’s authority; but then when someone calls him out on his stupid hateful nonsense, he immediately shifts to “we’re all sinners” and “I’m nothing more than a meek little lamb of God obediently bringing a message that’s far bigger than myself.” It’s childish, manipulative, and clearly designed to claim all the prestige of being a representative of God while taking no responsibility for what he says.

  • Old Harry

    McVitties should sue to keep him out of the country for the bad name he’s giving graham-like biscuits.

  • Old Harry

    Shepherds protect their Employers’ investment, not necessarily the Sheep.

  • Raymond Metcalfe

    He as been planning to preach the gospel, that means he plans to preach his version of it and he will condemn any one who he doosnt like the lgbt community. He is coming to preach and make money anyone who disagrees will be labelled either a communist a tool of satan or an atheist this man is avile preacher of bigotory and hate wrapped up in the shield of religion

  • HairyEyedWordBombThrower

    Hundreds of churches are working with the Graham Tour UK and praying for these events

    There you have it, folks!

    DEFINITIVE proof that prayer is useless!

    😉

  • Ignorant Amos

    We Brits got the preaching of “Good News” well before 1066.

  • Raging Bee

    So now y’all need a refresh!

  • Ignorant Amos

    If there are hundreds of churches in these cities, then why is it necessary for Mr. Graham to hold revival services?

    He’s only carrying on the lucrative family tradition of preaching hatred to the gullible for their money.

    His da did the same.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Graham#Views_on_homosexuality

    Between 1947 and 2005, Billy Graham conducted some 417 evangelical missions in 185 countries.

    He visited my part of the world, Northern Ireland in 1961, and again in 1972. As if we didn’t have enough Christian bigotry here already.

  • Ignorant Amos

    We exported to the U.S.

  • Raging Bee

    Are you kidding? Look how wonderful things got over there after his 1972 visit! Oh wait…

  • Raging Bee

    And now we’re returning the favor! Yer welcome!

  • David Heath

    Along with “You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it” (John 14:14).

    My reading of the quote that one needs only pray once for something and ZING!! it’s done. So how’s that working out for all the christians?

  • David Heath

    The “eye of the needle” was a very narrow gate into one of the old cities (I forget which) – it was too narrow for a camel to go through.

  • David Heath

    yes… even if they were forgiven and cleansed not 5 seconds ago!

  • L Turner

    You should get a load of his Samaritans Purse setup in Boone and Blowing Rock NC. No expense was spared in Franklin’s Taj Mahal headquarters. Sadly, his marks donate their hard earned money to Samaritans Purse thinking they are funding the cheap stuff in shoeboxes given to needy kids. This guy is a grifter. I wish NC could petition him into oblivion.

  • Jason Carpp

    You’re wasting your breath, Graham. The world doesn’t need “saving”, other than from the bullshit you “preach”.

  • L Turner

    It is all part of the cycle of emotional abuse. People who like themselves; really like life, don’t need to consider themselves sinners, wretches, worms, blah, blah, blah. I remember when I was a little kid sitting in church and hearing the preacher call the congregation “worms”. On the way home I said to my Mom that we weren’t worms, and we should never go back there. Mom was pretty brainwashed into the scam, but it was the day I didn’t believe in the nonsense anymore.

  • droll90

    I don’t know if we can believe “The Crown,” but if so, it depicts Queen Elizabeth as very much smitten with Billy Graham. I wonder how she feels about the cancellation of the venues in which his xenophobic son was going to preach.

  • Ignorant Amos

    And now we’re trying to tell you lot to cram it….hence the arseholes ban.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    And from his cronies in the religious right of politics. Those global warming deniers like Senator With The Snowball Inhofe.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    Graham: We’re all born sinners.
    Me: Do you believe your “God” created all of us?
    G: Yes
    Me: So if your deity created us he created us as sinners therefore he got his design wrong. It’s his fault we’re all sinners.

    I rest my case.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    Can’t give exact details but recently:
    1. Survey for Humanists UK indicated just over 50% didn’t identify with a religion. Christianity, in total, took up 40% of the pie chart.
    2. Survey for Humanist Society Scotland (I’m a member) indicated nearly 60% didn’t identify with a religion. Christianity scored under 40%.
    The surveys both indicated that this was a progressive trend.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    Don’t care, I’m a republican as in abolition of the monarchy. Nothing to do with the GOP.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    I think I read about proposed legal action presumably over breach of contract. The attached extract indicates that Glasgow allowed the booking on the basis of giving an equal platform. The Council are since quoting breach of their their rules of inclusion for all people which his “ministry” doesn’t accept. They must have accepted him unaware of his “message”. They may have a defence as the contract will probably refer to such guidelines which the person or organisation will have been expected to read. Of course he won’t see any contradiction or conflict.
    He better know that he’d need a Scottish lawyer (we call them solicitors) as we have a different legal system from England and Wales.

  • Duncan R. Bryson
  • Jason Carpp

    Snowball Inhofe? What’s that?

  • Phil

    We don’t want him or anyone of his ilk. Why can’t they understand that the majority of UK citizens reject religion. How long this will last with Johnson being a Trump wannabe.

  • Phil

    Because he thinks everyone else is not Jesusing correctly.

  • zenlike

    (Pssst: Raging bee is being sarcastic.)

  • Max

    You sound far too ignorant to be an atheist. Do you know the first thing about Marxism? Have you read either DAS KAPITAL or THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO? Do you understand the first thing about how capitalism functions to create and enable a ruling class? Please read those books with an open mind and think again. Thank you very much.

  • Max

    I grew up at a private Catholic school and was raised, essentially, by nuns. These particular nuns were antsy to get with the Vatican Two reforms and their teachings reflected their desires. They–and many other evangelists in the coming decade–preached that forgiveness had already happened, once and forever, via the Incarnation, Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ. (Nobody has to buy this, but this is what I grew up learning.) So, along come Franklin Graham and all the other rather dubious televangelists who make their careers by preaching that we’re all STILL in need of forgiveness, as if those hours on Calvary for some reason failed to suffice. Fast forward two thousand years and the very people who are incapable of thinking this through are the very people supporting the Radioactive One in the White House. (And flocking to Graham’s third rate imitation of his father.)

  • ILR

    Good. He’s spreading hate and intolerance. NO ONE should be listening to him. His father would be so ashamed.

  • Phil

    Yeah, it was a sad day when cricketers turned pro. Only in it for the money now.

  • Phil

    Wasn’t Jesus basically a communist?

  • Phil

    Yeah, its all about keeping them alive at minimal expense before they are slaughtered. That is why the analogy always puzzled me.

  • Duncan R. Bryson

    He brought a snowball into the Senate to “prove” global warming was a hoax. He was ripped apart by another senator. I copied something but it won’t paste. Google The Senator With The Snowball and you’ll find various references. He also said something like we have a temerity to think we could alter what “God” put in place.

  • Steven Watson

    Pearl clutching and attacks of the vapours ‘cos some twonk whose lift won’t leave the basement has threatened the alphabetti spaghetti with being ignored by a fictional character in a book with the world’s silliest plot. I don’t know who comes out the most ridiculous in this.

  • Kaja

    Eye of the Needle -a myth promoted by money loving Evangelists. Google it. I think the ‘gate’ explanation actually originated during the Middle Ages (10th century) if my memory recalls.

  • David Heath

    Very possibly… I was relying on a relatively old memory myself!

    Just hit Googler and it seems you’re right.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_a_needle

  • Raging Bee

    Actually, from what I’ve heard, his father was kinda overrated; as in, not much better than him. He may not have bashed LGBT+ folks as much, but that’s most likely because LGBT+ people weren’t nearly as visible then as now.

  • Raging Bee

    “Communism is classified as a religion?” By whom? And what the f00k does your uninformed raving have to do with my offhand reference to Matt. having leftist-sounding quotes from Jesus?

  • Raging Bee

    Because all of those churches have gone astray and are leading their flocks into darkness and error and damnation!!!

  • Raging Bee
  • Kaja

    I’ve been watching a 5 part documentary on Hitler’s Children (i.e. how Hitler took children from parents – with the parent’s approval- and brainwashed them). His methods were like playbooks taken from the art of religious indoctrination.

  • Kaja

    They’re on the decline, their memberships are much older, many of the young aren’t buying it, many of the young that still hold onto religion tend to be more “Jesusy” than the elders. I predict some (Falwell/Graham types) will get pretty nasty and vile (as we already are observing) as their influence undergoes further declines.

  • Kaja

    Graham would drive me away from religion – not attract me to it.

  • Kaja

    Why am I not surprised. Last I heard, he makes a salary between $900 000 and $1 million per year running the “charity”.

  • Weismonger

    Max—Hitler was a Christian and a Roman catholic who was never excommunicated from the Catholic Church. Every year up until the 1970s the Vatican gave a special mass for Adolf Hitler. Why? Because Hitler killed Jews, and the Roman Catholics believe that the Jews are responsible for killing Jesus. All of this is totally ridiculous. Why? Because Jesus did not exist.

    On every German soldiers’ belt buckle is a motto “God is with us.” On page 78 of Hitler’s “Mein Kampf” Hitler states “I am on a mission for God.”

    The idea that Christians want us to worship their imaginary God and Jesus is just ridiculous because there’s no proof that God or Jesus has ever existed. These are fairytales.

    Christianity was copied from previous religions. There is not a single original idea in the Bible that was not copied from another religion. Christianity especially is all about money and power since about 300 AD when pagan Emperor Constantine started up a new “state religion” as an excuse to drain off all the money from the rich pagan religions in the Roman empire. Why? Because Roman empire was going broke And who had the most money and power in the Roman empire were pagan religions.

    The Roman empire was going broke because it was under attack by the barbarians as the German tribes, as well as the Jews who were continuing to rebel, and a military and police defense was expensive. Pagan Emperor Constantine also hated living in Rome and wanted to move the Roman empire to Constantinople, which is now Turkey. And all of this took money. And who had lots of money and power or all the pagan religions. So it became just a simple exercise in logic for pagan Emperor Constantine to create a new state religion that people would eventually be forced to worship and contribute Their money and allegiance.

    Furthermore, For the next 500 years Christianity was controlled by only one family the Flavians. Ergo, the entire hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church was controlled by the Flavian family of Caesars. The church fathers, & the commentaries that created Christian doctrine & the Gospels, all of the popes, bishops, priests, & Saints were all related to the family of Flavian Caesars.

    What else the Roman Catholic Church and Christians don’t want you to know is that how the priests and popes and bishops dressed, their invocations, their sermons, church doctrine and their rituals were all copied from the pagan Roman empire’s religion going back hundreds of years. There is nothing original in Christianity.

    What else Christianity doesn’t want you to know is that there were many versions of Christianity and especially of who Jesus was supposed to be. In some of the original Jesus sects, Jesus never came to earth to preach but was an intermediary in heaven and considered to be an archangel.

    In other Jesus sects, Jesus was not born a God but became a God. Whereas other Jesus sects said that Jesus was born a God and descended from heaven to earth. The whole idea of Jesus being born of a virgin was a much later idea. In all, there are at least 11 versions of Jesus.

    And the Jesus version you may worship as a Christian is only because of the edicts of those in power, or were enforced by the point of a sword. In fact, Christians murdered 30 million people in the name of Jesus and God to enforce their version of Jesus in God.

    Today, there are 5000 versions of Christianity, and the only reason they are not at war with each other especially in the United States is because the US was founded on atheism. There is no state church in the US, and no one is punished for not believing in God Or Jesus.

    Ergo, When people say “we should believe in God and Jesus,” I always say “which one?.” And “in God Should we trust?” Worldwide, there are 50,000 versions of gods. In multiple gods to trust in. Furthermore, there’s not a single person who is religious who can prove that either they were God exists, or their God is only the right one to believe in.

    The only reason that Christians are so incredibly ignorant about their history and which version of God and Jesus they believe in is because Christianity is based on keeping people stupid and unenlightened and Uneducated so that they can be manipulated into believing that the money that they give goes to the one and only God.

    In Genesis, and throughout the Bible there are references to “many gods.” In fact in the book of Genesis it says that “we (meaning many gods) created man in “our image.” And “our image” refers to multiple gods.”

    From front to back, the Bible is a forgery and a fraud copied from previous religions and it is certainly time for believers to grow up and stop believing in these religious fairytales.

  • Weismonger

    One of the interesting things about Franklin Graham and the other rich millionaire Christian evangelists and preachers is that they are all supremely narcissistic and grandiose and consider the rest of us poor ignorant boobs.

    In the Bible, when you are called “sheep”—just ask yourself exactly what sheep are?

    Sheep are just ignorant barnyard animals living in a herd who only go where they are told. So when Christians consider themselves sheep just think about What that really means.

  • Weismonger

    Why is God always broke?

    It’s just hilarious but Christians think we should give all our money to the church and remain poor and humble.

    This is nothing more than a manipulation to keep christians emptying out their pockets and giving money to the church and then return Christians will be loved by God and Jesus.

    A lot of what preachers and ChristianS say is really no different than a used car salesman selling you a lemon and telling you what a great car it is….

  • Weismonger

    You got that exactly right DAVID. Christianity and religion is nothing more than A belief in magic.

    And since Majick doesn’t exist, you’re exactly right. I’ve never heard of any Christian magically getting something because they asked God and Jesus to give it to them.

  • ILR

    Raging Bee when I was growing up and being dragged to church on a regular basis, he was the most highly respect Southern Baptist minister out there. Mama got to hear him preach one time and she was amazed by the ‘power of his words’. Crisswell, from Dallas was another one and I heard him preach a number of times. IMO both were over rated. But they were peddling snake oil so there is that to consider. But Billy Graham never preached hatred the way his son does.

  • s clark

    Great to see the uk waking up to the damage christianity is causing and seeing through the lies. Top marks for pulling the plug on franklin graham’s mission and averting his undoing of a lifetime’s work to build a cohesive ,inclusive, tolerant society. we have had enough of destuctive, deceptive,costly, fraudulent, bigotry.
    we have got brexit now how about CHREXIT???? christian exit….pulling out of christianity…..jesus didn’t come.

  • Geoff Benson

    There must still be a pretty fervent core of evangelicals in the UK but I have to say that I’m hardly aware of their presence. Almost everyone I know is an atheist, or at least indifferent to religion. I attended four funerals last year and every single one was non-religious. I think marriages are more frequently celebrated in church, but that’s for cultural reasons. Johnson’s a pretty fervent atheist himself.

  • Ignorant Amos

    Indeed.

    The South is doing a better job than the North though.

    The government in the North is over subscribed with buybull bashing creotards. That has meant that it’s laws have had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get in line with the rest of the UK. It also means we’ve lagged behind the liberal thinking Eire. Ironic really, considering that not so long ago, the South was one of the most conservative Roman Catholic countries on the planet. Such dramatic change demonstrates the Christers have lost their grip.

    The problem in the North is that while the majority of population supports abortion and same sex marriage, the government is elected along sectarian Christian party politics. And the knuckle-dragging creotard DUP have had the say-so until the just recently you’ve mentioned.

    But things are defo on the up.

  • Ignorant Amos

    Exactly. They don’t even have the wit to know they are being condescended to.

    I tended to use the portmanteau of “sheeple” back in the old RDFRS site days, but it went out of fashion. It could see a revival though.

    Sheeple:- People unable to think for themselves. Followers. Lemmings. Those with no cognitive abilities of their own.

  • Pofarmer

    I know lots of atheist who voted for President Trump because of economic reasons.

    Man, they fucked up.

    Did they not understand the religious fundamentalists that vote would unleash?

  • Raging Bee

    Camille Paglia said something similar. I haven’t bothered with her since.

  • Ignorant Amos

    Almost everyone I know is an atheist, or at least indifferent to religion. I attended four funerals last year and every single one was non-religious.

    I wish I could say the same Geoff.

  • L Turner

    Actually, a number of years ago, Grifter Frankie was caught paying himself TWO six figure salaries out of the Samaritans Purse coffers. His explanation was that he worked twice as hard as anyone else. He has no shame.

  • Steven Watson

    You are on an atheist blog and ALL the people you are raging against are atheists.