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Abortion Decision Obama’s Least Popular February 3, 2009

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  • j. edwards

    I am surprised that closing Guantanamo is so low.

  • Joe

    I am surprised that closing Guantanamo is so low.

    Why?

    Perhaps people have a sense, accurate or not, that one of the factors playing into the fact that there have been no terrorist attacks on American soil since 9/11 has something to do with Gitmo.

  • j. edwards

    I imagined that the American people were tired of hearing about torture, emotional abuse, waterboarding, & prisoner suicide. Wishful thinking, I guess.

    Are you saying that places like Gitmo are justified if they prevent terrorist attacks? Are you a Christian?

  • Gallup shows strong overall support for the President and also strong support on 5 out of 7 policy actions polled. Those who consistently oppose the President and his policies seem to be a politically marginal group. Gallup does suggest there is a significant group in the middle that approves of the President’s leadership in general and on most major issues, but not on abortion.

    The question now is how the other two elements respond to the politically crucial pro-Obama/Pro-Life center. From the “Left” comes an olive branch — no FOCA introduced or considered in Congress, support for Pro-Life Democrats, focus on economic issues and world peace, etc. The Pro-Obama/Pro-Life Center will have to discern if the olive branch is a full, green and fruitful one, or a barren, dry and brittle one. From the “Right” will there be an olive branch or will it be the tactics of threats and accusations from last year? Denial of the sacraments, rites and inclusion in their faith community. Accusations of “you are not Catholic” or you are not “Pro-Life” for a single vote for a pro-choice candidate. A general tone of hostility rather than respect.

    As part of that center political element, I am interested in the future actions of both sides.

  • jonathanjones02

    More numbers here on the economy
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/114097/Americans-Support-Stimulus-Major-Changes.aspx

    Here is hoping that public opinion can stop the Bush precedent of spending spending spending ourselves into oblivion. Perhaps this economy needs the “correction,” and we should be “happy” that people seem to be saving more and are now less inclined to gorge on credit. This “stimulus” package may well be significantly more expensive than Iraq and Afghanistan. And there is all sorts of crazy examples, like http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MTY2YTkwMWFlMzdlMWNiNjViZjQ2MDZjZGY3OTdlY2U=

    See also
    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YWE0OGQyMzNiMjg4MGNkZDc1N2I1NzlkMzY2YTQ2NDE=

    More of this nonsense coming out all the time on this bill.

    http://www.readthestimulus.org

  • David Nickol

    Regarding Obama and abortion, there is an interesting article from Catholic News Service titled Rumors aside, FOCA legislation no threat to Catholic health care. It says, in part

    Sister Carol Keehan, a Daughter of Charity who is CHA [Catholic Health Association] president and CEO, was equally sure that FOCA poses no threat to Catholic hospitals or to the conscience rights of those who work there.

    “I don’t believe that FOCA will pass, although we will continue to monitor all proposed regulations for their potential to help people in this country and for any negative assault on the life issues,” she said.

    As introduced in previous congresses, the legislation “has never contained anything that would force Catholic hospitals or Catholic personnel to do abortions or to participate in them,” she added.

  • David Nickol

    jonathanjones02,

    Are you saying a stimulus is not needed? Can you cite a reputable economist who things the free market will take care of things without government intervention? It seems to me that, politically speaking, there is universal agreement that something needs to be done. The Democrats want lots of spending and some tax cuts, and the Republicans want lots of tax cuts and some spending.

    Isn’t it pretty much universally agreed that what ended the Great Depression was a huge government spending program, in the form of World War II?

  • jonathanjones02

    Are you saying a stimulus is not needed?

    What a rhetorical turn! I am saying that this bill – around 1 trillion of borrowing and spending – is outrageous and irresponsible.

    Can you cite a reputable economist who things the free market will take care of things without government intervention?

    First, the “free market” does not exist, and much of this current mess can be traced to government intervention. I am not against government intervention, only some types (as is big business, by the way, as well as small business). But this thread is not about those details. Finally, what if what is needed is a “market correction” – for example, an end to not cheap and easy credit but extraordinarly cheap and easy credit? An lowering of trade deficit? Ect

    It seems to me that, politically speaking, there is universal agreement that something needs to be done.

    Then let’s not rush a 1 trillion borrow and spend bill through. There are many other alternatives.

    The Democrats want lots of spending and some tax cuts, and the Republicans want lots of tax cuts and some spending.

    Assume this is true. Would it still be prudent to go forward with the many examples of strange – I would say unncessary – spending in this bill? Are you able to demonstrate how it might help the economy?

    Isn’t it pretty much universally agreed that what ended the Great Depression was a huge government spending program, in the form of World War II?

    Not if the judges are economists and historians, although many would argue that.

  • blackadderiv

    Isn’t it pretty much universally agreed that what ended the Great Depression was a huge government spending program, in the form of World War II?

    Nope. Christina Romer, for example, thinks that the end of the Great Depression was due to monetary policy. And she’s hardly alone in thinking this.

  • blackadderiv

    Are you saying a stimulus is not needed? Can you cite a reputable economist who things the free market will take care of things without government intervention?

    See here and here.

  • David Nickol

    See here and here.

    BA,

    I didn’t mean those kinds of economists. I meant the kind that are on the television shows I watch.

  • TeutonicTim

    Where’s the category for

    “Paying my mortgage and car payment”

    I bet the mob would have 99% approval of those policies.

    Just because it polls well doesn’t make it good policy

  • blackadderiv

    I didn’t mean those kinds of economists. I meant the kind that are on the television shows I watch.

    🙂

  • Those who consistently oppose the President and his policies seem to be a politically marginal group.

    No more or less so than those who opposed Bush and his policies in 2002 were a marginal group. Political polling does not necessarily signify long term alignment.

    I’d guess that probably only about 20-30% of Americans support Obama’s policies — but that’s in part because probably less than 50% of Americans actually have any clear idea of what his policies are.

  • Nathan

    >>Isn’t it pretty much universally agreed that what ended the Great Depression was a huge government spending program, in the form of World War II?<<

    Nope. Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

    see: http://tinyurl.com/44ysum