In an interview with CNBC yesterday, Donald Trump said that President Obama was the founder of ISIS:
“In fact, in many respects, you know they honor President Obama,” Trump said. “ISIS is honoring President Obama. He is the founder of ISIS. He is the founder of ISIS, okay? He’s the founder! He founded ISIS! And I would say the co-founder would be ‘Crooked Hillary Clinton.'”
At the rally, Trump also “awarded” a “Most Valuable Player” award, similar to ones handed out in all the major sports leagues, to Obama and the Democratic nominee, Hillary Clinton.
Later that day he went on Hugh Hewitt’s show where Hewitt tried desperately to throw Trump some rope. Trump metaphorically shot Hewitt the bird, took off his swim trunks, and proceeded to swim as deep as he could:
Soon after the CNBC interview, Trump refused to back down on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show. Hewitt initially attempted to get Trump to tone down his comments. “I know what you meant, you meant that he created the vacuum, he lost the peace,” Hewitt said.
Trump wasn’t having it: “No, I meant he’s the founder of ISIS. I do. He was the most valuable player. I give him the most valuable player award. I give her, too, by the way, Hillary Clinton.”
Hewitt responded, “But he’s not sympathetic to them. He hates them. He’s trying to kill them.”
Trump was undeterred.
“I don’t care. He was the founder. His — the way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, okay?”
Oh boy. You’re implying, very strongly, that Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist. Just…wow.
So, first, Obama is obviously not the founder of ISIS. Like, more obviously than the sky is blue. This, of course, hasn’t stopped his supporters from nodding their heads like good little idiots.
Second, if Obama loves ISIS so much, why have their numbers dwindled under Obama’s leadership? Just to throw us off the trail? I mean, here’s a headline literally from yesterday:
We have used everything from sanctions to military force to try and push ISIS back. That’s pretty damn strange if Obama is secretly wanting them to succeed, ain’t it?
Third, the “withdrawing troops created ISIS” line (which is so obviously not the same as “founding ISIS”) is ripped directly from Jeb Bush during the primaries a year ago, and it didn’t make any sense then.
From the moment we ousted Saddam, iron-fisted though he was, the destabilization of Iraq was inevitable unless we were ready to commit our soldiers there until the end of time. The Shiites and Sunnis were being kept from each other’s throats by Saddam Hussein and when we removed him from power it was either our responsibility to do the same or watch it all crumble. That’s on George W. Bush who decided to invade based on bad intelligence (bad intelligence his administration helped to craft) when there was no fucking reason.
You want to talk about who created the void for ISIS to fill? Well Jeb (and now Trump), it was the last sitting Republican President who went in and organized that vacuum of power. It was Dubya who took a chisel to the dike and you’re pissed at Obama and Clinton for not sitting there with their thumbs in that hole until the end of time. The moment somebody wasn’t there to hold them apart the three perpetually warring sects of Islam in Iraq were going to try to kill each other. All we had to do was sit back and let Saddam Hussein do it, but no, rootin’ tootin’ Dubya wanted the responsibility. Well, now we’ve got it and the elder Bush has skipped town.
Besides, how could Obama and Clinton have possibly ruined the show when W. accomplished the mission during his own presidency?
Yeah, Obama and Clinton sure stepped in it, didn’t they? Experts and even moderately informed citizens knew then that this would happen if we charged in like a less aware bull and destabilized Iraq, and those experts were ignored by the Bush administration.
Plus, as Dan Arel noted at the time, Dubya considered it his god-assigned mission to go in and destabilize Iraq:
“I am driven with a mission from God. God would tell me, ‘George go and fight these terrorists in Afghanistan’. And I did. And then God would tell me ‘George, go and end the tyranny in Iraq’. And I did,” George W. Bush told Nabil Shaath, who was Palestinian foreign minister at the time.
So before Obama and Hillary get the blame, it seems god should be required to take the stand to defend himself. This whole situation is like smashing in the wall of your apartment with a sledgehammer and then blaming the next tenant for causing the hole just because they haven’t fixed it to your satisfaction.
But ok, Trump says we shouldn’t have withdrawn troops. Trump ought to be asked how many troops he would’ve left and what they would’ve done to get these three warring sects of Islam to stop trying to kill each other. He should be made to show his work.
If you want to be informed about the rise of ISIS, watch this six minute video which lays it out pretty clearly:
Donald Trump likely couldn’t show you ISIS-occupied territory on a map. Even the thought that he’s trying to lay the blame for founding ISIS on people who clearly have a clue about foreign policy, Obama and Clinton, is a level of arrogance unrivaled by the sum of all previous Donald Trump quotes.
And which is one of the last voting blocs supporting him? Why, people who think Jesus teaches them to appreciate humility. Gag me.