An entertaining and provocative 17.5 minutes:
It’s pretty painfully obvious to me that the two atheist interlocutors didn’t really get the point. Of course, in fairness, they’re scarcely alone in this. I’ve found that the atheists I’ve spoken to have rarely been able to see the issue, either. They often assume, quite indignantly, that the claim is that atheists can’t be good people, or that atheists are indifferent to moral evils. But that isn’t the point at all.
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