Hinduism and Quantum Physics: Experiential vs Mathematical view of the Conscious Reality

Hinduism and Quantum Physics: Experiential vs Mathematical view of the Conscious Reality September 25, 2013

When I listen to the debate in the West on Evolution vs Creationism, I am often amused.  Both the ways, heated camps in their own right are either incorrect or incomplete.  For, such a debate is not even possible – nor warranted – in the Eastern Spiritual circles – fashioned as they are by the Dharmic (or Hindu) Spiritual viewpoint.

It is true that material world has improved and progressed over the millenia to a point where human beings have reached the peak of existence as it is today.  No more “evolution” of human beings is possible.  If at all, the inventions and discoveries will take us downhill, because we will forgo the use of our body to its fullest.  Our body, however, is at its peak level of instrumentation.  If used properly.  Nothing can be improved in terms of its configuration or components.  Adi Yogi (First Yogi) Shiva said this – per the Yogic lore – around 15-20,000 years back.

How about Creation?  Well, there is no “Creation”.  And that is where the entire spiritual view differs.

Existence / Universe, rather everything seen, is called “Srishti” in Sanskrit.  It comes from the root word Srijan, which is used to describe the manifestation of a tree from a seed.  The seed does not “create” a tree.  The tree is within the seed, in an umanifest form.

The Sanskrit word for Creation is “Kriti”.  It has deliberately not been used by the Sages and Monks.  Because there is no Creation.  Only manifestation.

As the Physicists of the last century stumbled upon the Quantum and struggled to live with the disruptive impact of that knowledge to the “Physics” that had been held dear by the scientists.  The modern world – which had mocked the Hindu view of “Maya” and “Consciousness”; suddenly came face to face with their ideological enemy.  A world of “No Matter”.  Of One Conscious Energy.

Creator is “Intelligent”, but not in the way a human being is.  It’s intelligence is the sub-stratum of the whole material world.  Material world is but a vibration in the vast ocean of consciousness.  Creation, Sage Vasistha said, is a Vibration in Consciousness.  Modern Neuro-scientists and Quantum physicists, who conceptually understand their own life’s work, couldn’t agree more.

Was that just some poetic nonsensical assertion by some in the Yogic past?  Or arbitrary statements?  Well, the entire philosophy and experiential Spiritual heritage – which Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism used and enriched in their own way – of Hinduism is centered around the assertion of “Maya” and the “Conscious, Unborn, All pervasive Intelligence” – which for the ease of consumption was later called “God”.

If Yoga is the House…  then unmanifest, non-material Consciousness is the “atoms of bricks and cement” in this house.  Every action, every breath and every moment of quietude in Yoga is pregnant with the understanding and realization of the One Unmanifest Consciousness.

It is clear to the one who has understood the meaning and scope of concepts-but-reality of Naadi, Chakra and Prana.  Yoga works.  We all know that.  But it works in ways that we don’t know of.  What we see of it and what we make of what we see from its impact is like getting excited by drinking droplets of water from the steam collected in a pressure cooker, while a sumptuous dinner is being cooked in it.  We aren’t even making water in a pressure cooker.  But for one if that is all you know it provides and that is all you know about it, then a Pressure cooker is a water maker!  Just like Yoga is an “exercise” alternative to Pillates.

While the Modern Scientists have been grappling with the question of how the “Wave Collapsed” from Infinite possibilities to a material Finite; Religions have been struggling with how God created the Creation.  The Sages in India not only looked at this question – of how Finite came from the Infinite – but also found ways and methods – and perfected them – to experience the Infinite while in a Finite manifestation.  The “bridging of the gap” – between Finite and Infinite – was experientially the lifework of every Spiritual seeker. We, at Drishtikone, had explored this in the post – Eternal Illusion and How Observer Creates His Own Reality

Science’s endeavor was thus more about the Knowledge – which was, in itself, an estimation as opposed to the search and enunciation of the truth. For Truth was not available in our current paradigm. This new paradigm brought more questions than answers – questions that go to the very heart of our existence – daily, indeed momentary, existence!
Falsehood (or Illusion) – collapse of the brain-wave or mind-stuff as Vasistha was fond of calling it – meets falsehood (another Illusion) – the collapse of the observed’s wave. How does the mind escape this interplay when it is the originator and the affected? Was this then the cause-and-effect Maya that Vedantists kept referring to all the time?

So, who am I then? A Collapse? An Illusion? A thought of the Cosmic Creator? Or more appropriately, an Illusion in the “Mind-stuff” of the Cosmic Creator “Himself”?

The official photograph from the 1927 Solvay Conference in Belgium. The greatest collection of brilliant minds ever assembled up to then, and up to present. (Courtesy Flickr/Ted Buracas)

We went onto further look at the convergence of Theory of Relativity with the Quantum Mechanics and the entry of the idea of Consciousness in Physics.  How, we are now listening to the Vasistha-speak from the mouth of Modern Physcists – Creation is a Vibration!  We explored that as well in Creation is a Vibration.

This topic of convergence of Hindu Thought and Quantum Mechanics is covered by a Theoretical Physicist Jay Lakhani in his rather long but extremely enriching lecture on “Science and Spirituality”.  It is not just a coincidence that the “Fathers of Quantum Mechanics” – Schrodinger, Heisenberg, and Bohr – were also deeply into Vedanta.  Unless you are comfortable with the world as described by the Sages whose work was encapsulated in Vedantic writings; you can never step confidently into the world of Quantum Mechanics and make sense of it.  For, any remnants of fetish with Material Existence and Deterministic Science can make you a great Mathematical genius, but a conceptually weak Quantum Physicist.  This has been brought about by Lakhani in this lecture in a beautiful way.


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    Wow, you never cease to surprise me when you compared yogas working to just pressure cooker steam, dude, I am truly left speechless by your writing. I still need to watch the video you have placed in the article, that I will do tonight. But meanwhile why did sudden gaps in the writing?

    • Thanks, Harry! The gap.. 🙂 Work pressure. Will write more often though.

  • is there a life ?

    i’m Indian i know how this Indians are , lol we’ll screw you up in unimaginable way because you stole lots of our shit, vedas don’t really mean things as modern-Hindus describe they just change your perspective (drastikone) to your likings and convince you and make you believe in shit and latter they will screw you up ..

    want an example : “the boy with four arms with elephant head dances on rats” now you’ll just think it’s shit written by some 5 year old but they tell you that ‘old sages were brilliants they had biological scientific knowledge that’s why they were able to give four arms and an elephant head to that boy’. they will say that rat wasn’t rat ‘it was a car or a spaceship that looked like rat’ and shit like that thus changing your perception with ‘cryptic’ looking Sanskrit ‘sutras’.

    some of the scientific knowledge that can be easily gathered in lots of years by simple observation and some mathematician (PI isn’t that hard to discover) in the kingdoms of kings of that time, and also keep in mind that people were just like us at the time some really smart people (todays scientist) were forced to merge their scientific knowledge with religious shit by the order of the god believing kings.

    • Dude – First get a primary education in English because your grammar sucks big time.

      Then, if you have to counter – lay out some facts. Your example of the “boy with four arms with elephant head dances on rats” – is NOT written in any scripture. If you know of one, please cite it.

      Whatever I have written, I have a citation for it. And that is the only way this should work. If you nothing but prejudices to air, then you are basically just bored with your life.. find something interesting to do.

      • is there a life ?

        you know nothing about Indians and Hinduism “the boy with four arms with elephant head dances on rats (his vehicle is a rat)” = Ganesha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesha the son of the god Shiva, it’s so basic even the 5 year old kid would know about him over hear (India)

        my grammar sucks because English isn’t my native language, sorry for that, btw nice try to piss me off with this nitpicking.

        I guess you’re not from India, you sound like some NRI guy brainwashed in believing their country is greatest , come over hear and see it yourself

        • Ganesha as a deity is one thing. What you are saying is that its written in scriptures – that’s what I clarifying.

          As for the deities and the forms worshipped to, then one has to understand that Hindus have been a dialectic culture and most stories, deities etc have a certain implication and meaning to it. Its just a different thing that certain forms have gained popular imagination, without the requisite understanding of what it is for.

  • Shadaan

    Ancient wisdom is generally giberish and complicated and cruel. We are simply creatures who are evil and violent, humans create this wisdom to raise their egos and use it as a control mechanism. What about the absolute cruelty of the caste system and abusing females in India. This was also part of ancient wisdom which have resulted in hating someone of a lower caste for no apparent reason and murdering women and girl children together with rape as a revenge for the hate . So what is ancient wisdom and why is it so important to your life. Always remember that human desires and the self always lurks behind all this so called wisdom.