On One’s Reaction to George Zimmerman….

On One’s Reaction to George Zimmerman…. July 26, 2013

saving people from a burning car.

C.S. Lewis has a comment for all those bitterly disappointed that George Zimmerman did a good thing and who search for a stupid conspiracy theory to explain it:

Suppose one reads a story of filthy atrocities in the paper. Then suppose that something turns up suggesting that the story might not be quite true, or not quite so bad as it was made out. Is one’s first feeling, ‘Thank God, even they aren’t quite so bad as that,’ or is it a feeling of disappointment, and even a determination to cling to the first story for the sheer pleasure of thinking your enemies are as bad as possible? If it is the second then it is, I am afraid, the first step in a process which, if followed to the end, will make us into devils. You see, one is beginning to wish that black was a little blacker. If we give that wish its head, later on we shall wish to see grey as black, and then to see white itself as black. Finally we shall insist on seeing everything — God and our friends and ourselves included — as bad, and not be able to stop doing it: we shall be fixed for ever in a universe of pure hatred.

George Zimmerman did not make a car crash using telepathy. He did a good thing. Thank God for it.

On the other hand, the conspiracy theory that Zimmerman and Chaz Bono are the same person is absolutely sound and only a fool would doubt it.

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  • wlinden

    In all fairness “even to them”, some of those “conspiracy theories” tweeted appear to be their idea of sarcasm.

    • Newp Ort

      Also in fairness, car crashes can bring out the conspiracy theorist in the least tinfoil-hatty of us.


      • wlinden

        Both the hateful tweets and Mark’s suspicions involved car crashes, therefore they are the same. Perfectly clear.

        • Newp Ort

          OK let me clear it up for you:

          conservatives see conspiracy in car crash

          liberals see conspiracy in car crash

          both can’t see out of their extreme view blinders that both of these incidences are only car crashes.

          there’s interesting similarities, they are not the same.

          one involves a tragic, accidental death. the other involves a widely vilified man showing that he has common decency, and perhaps even a bit of heroism within him.

  • Newp Ort

    The Chaz Bono/Zimmerman lookalike comment was mean spirited, uncharitable, and funny as hell. Really though, Mark, it’s like all hefty dudes whose necks don’t fit so well in their collars look alike to you.

  • Michaelus

    Wow – Sarah Silverman – I noticed one of her earlier tweets was “Children are good marks of time. When you don’t have children you only have 9/11”

    • S. Murphy

      Crassitude on steroids is how she makes a living. Don’t hate. Everybody’s gotta put bread on the table.

  • kirthigdon

    From what I have heard of Zimmerman, he really does seem to want to do good deeds for his neighbors in a civic minded way. But he forgot the principle of “first do no harm”. On a much smaller scale he reminds me of the US armed forces which arrived in Somalia to save the people from famine and ended up slaughtering thousands of Somalis. Good Samaritans need to leave the guns at home.
    Kirt Higdon

    • Newp Ort

      “Don’t take your guns to town, son. Leave your guns at home.”
      -Johnny Cash

    • Steve

      OK, the troops did not “slaughter” thousands of Somalis. The guerrillas were trying to slaughter the troops, who merely tried to defend themselves while getting the hell out of dodge. You are making it sound like the troops lumbered in there and just started rabidly gunning down every man, woman, and child they could find. All they wanted to do was to capture the warlord, get out of the enemy territory and get back to base.

      • kirthigdon

        Yes, the troops invaded “enemy” (Somali) territory to capture the “warlord” (local clan leader). The guerrillas were trying to defend their homes against the invaders. The US lost a couple of dozen soldiers and the Somalis lost thousands in a battle which took place entirely on Somali soil and was unprovoked by any Somali attack against the US. The US still has CIA stations in Somalia and conducts covert ops (assassinations) there.
        Kirt Higdon

        • Steve

          The guerrillas were the people who were plunging their countrymen into starvation. They were not defending their homes. They were butchering their own people. What, you think they were just sitting around playing poker and that’s why the helicopters came? And as a matter of fact, the battle was provoked. It was provoked by the warlords and their cronies who were committing crimes against humanity against their own people for the sake of power.

          How odd for you to defend such atrocious people like they were innocent.

          • Marthe Lépine

            I do not think that K. wanted to defend the warlords, but to point out that US intervention did more harm than good (and maybe had no prospect of “victory” as per the Catechism). Why does the US government think that it should act as if it was the world’s police responsible to intervene anywhere in the world, whether or not the US security is being threatened? In fact by such actions they do more to increase the security risks for the US, by increasing resentment against them.

            • Steve

              I’m not saying that there weren’t serious strategical issues with our involvement in Mogadishu. I’m pointing out that he shouldn’t portray the footsoldiers of that operation as bloodthirsty murderers by using the term “slaughter” instead of people trying to do the right thing and then survive an utterly terrifying situation.

              • kirthigdon

                When the ratio of the dead was about 100 Somalis for every one American in a battle on Somali soil initiated by American invaders, I’ve no problem at all calling that a slaughter. And yes the American soldiers were trying to do what they saw as the right thing and so were the Somalis. Sort of like Zimmerman and Martin were both trying to do what they saw as the right thing and Martin ended up dead and Zimmerman ended up with some minor scalp abrasions. Had Zimmerman not armed himself and initiated the whole thing, it would not have happened, Ditto the Americans in Somalia.
                Kirt Higdon

                • Steve

                  Slaughter is absolutely the wrong word. “Slaughter” is when you kill (usually brutally) a defenseless individual. You cannot “slaughter” someone who is bringing hundreds (thousands) of his friends to surround you and shoot you with Kalashkinovs. That is not slaughter. That is not what the word means. You are using it wrong. If the Rangers and Deltas involved went around targeting unarmed civilians and not malicious gunmen, it would be a slaughter. It was not, so it was not a slaughter.

                  And by the way, Martin initiated it when he broke Zimmerman’s nose, took him to the ground, and smashed his head against concrete. I promise you, if someone was smashing your head against concrete – a deadly weapon in and of itself – you would not be carefully analyzing how much physical damage you were receiving in between each blow. Instead, you would be terrified for your life.

                  • kirthigdon

                    I think it comes back down to “first do no harm”. If you don’t arm yourself and follow people around at night putting them in fear of “creepy-ass crackers” and if you don’t invade their countries and try to order their affairs and kidnap their leaders at gunpoint, then these slaughters don’t happen.
                    Kirt Higdon

                    • Steve

                      That’s a fascinating way to sidestep what I said.

  • Steve

    Mark, I can’t believe you would disregard the destructive power of telepathy

  • Doug

    Equating the color black with evil is racist.

    • wlinden

      And the English coined the word “blackmail” because they are racists, and they mistook my ancestors for Africans when they came riding over the border.

      • Rebecca Fuentes

        And of course, calling asphalt “blacktop” is racist and implies that we walk and drive over the melanin blessed.

    • Joe

      So, did your education stop after graduating from a politically correct preschool, Doug?

  • enness

    Yup. People don’t reduce as easily as we sometimes want them to.

  • kenneth

    I don’t think Zimmerman is an evil guy. He’s a knucklehead who made a poor decision that needlessly cost a young man his life. His actions would normally be considered at least criminal negligence in almost any civilized system of law, but we are no longer a civilized people.

    Zimmerman did not create a phenomenon. He is the product of it. The legal and cultural norms from Zimmerman’s home state on up to our nation’s highest foreign policy, have legitimized the concept of “pre-emptive self defense.” If you provoke a fight or manufacture a threat and then shoot first, it’s a “clean” kill. We used to associate that reasoning with the worst guttersnipe killers in frontier and mining towns, but we are that guttersnipe now, as a society.

    Somewhere in our imperial ambitions, we realized that self-justifying power is terribly handy, and that trickled down, aided in no small part by the gun culture. Black Americans tend to see the incident as just the latest of a million examples that our society’s value on life, which is low in general, also varies inversely with the amount of melanin in a person’s skin.

    I have no trouble believing that Zimmerman did something good. My sense of the guy is that he wanted nothing more than to be a cop or first responder of some sort. When that ambition didn’t come to pass, he decided to freelance, which put a “cop” on the beat with no training and no accountability.

  • Vince Cornacchio

    John Medaille was fooled by this on his FB page. http://kasamaproject.org/en/news-analysis/4465-no-that-creepy-ass-cracker-did-not-rescue-a-family Even the brights are vulnerable