PC Agitprop

PC Agitprop May 2, 2014

The Humboldt Penguins in this little tale are gay, so we should imitate the beauty of the natural world in our domestic arrangements, little children.

Imitating nature in defiance of Catholic moral teaching is a quick ticket to becoming unnatural.

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  • Anthony

    Didn’t those penguins eventually break up and end up being in heterosexual relationships? This is actually the worst story for them to pull out in their attempt to justify their actions.

  • ivan_the_mad

    Another argument for a return to a genuine liberal arts education: We could very well see fewer and less risible appeals to nature.

  • Dave G.

    Like most things in recent years, it’s a convenient point when it’s a convenient point. When it’s no longer convenient, then it doesn’t apply. Hard to argue with.

  • Humphrey

    Female praying mantis eating male after mating.

    Well we humans have that too, it`s called divorce.

  • SteveP

    “Gay rights” advocates automatically also become Dr. Doolittle in that they can talk with animals. No one else in the history of the world knew that penguins were saying “I like you” until 1985 when a “gay” human male – obviously having obtained a doctorate – spent grant monies and donations projecting onto, um I mean deciphering, penguin communications.

  • DJ Wambeke

    Agree wholeheartedly. Post-coital mantises are the perfect juxtaposition.

    I have a sense, though, that some of us on the “conjugal marriage” side of things are partly to blame for this sort of thing, for not properly communicating the natural law basis for our position. If I had a dime for every time I heard someone say something along the lines of “Homosexuality is unnatural – animals aren’t gay” well I wouldn’t be rich but I could probably buy a couple cups of Starbucks, anyway. It’s true that I live in a backwater where that sort of idea is probably more common than elsewhere, but still…

    So as cringe-worthy as this sort of emotivist appeal is, it is, I think, a reaction to a certain level of ignorance all to common on our side. I mean, what else is there to do when someone tells you animals aren’t gay? You show them penguins acting gay, of course. You get the rhetorical benefit of spouting Science(tm)! and bonus, an emotional appeal to cute widdle fluffy creatures….

    • If I had a dime for every time I heard someone say something along the lines of “Homosexuality is unnatural – animals aren’t gay”

      Yup. That’s a very widespread but complete misunderstanding of what is meant by “natural” law. Martin Rhonheimer totally opened my eyes to that mistake.

    • SteveP

      I understand your point. Yet I would also mention that advocacy has been telling us for years “gay is self-identified.” Holding that line, a penguin can no more self-identify as “gay” than can a panther self-identify as a cat of color. It is unnatural to anthropomorphize animals.

  • jose

    I was just pointed to a great film called “The Third Way” on the Church and homosexuality featuring a number of well-known Catholic apologists. The terms natural and unnatural are explained in a humbling way. It would be cool if Mark put out a prominent link to this.


  • UAWildcatx2

    And lions eat the offspring of potential mates in order to prime the female for mating. Guess that means getting rid of the concept of stepparents.

  • Mark R

    Correct me if I am wrong, but male penguins always keep the eggs for warmth and have to huddle together with other penguins (males) so they themselves will stay warm. There is nothing gay about seeing to the survival of offspring…quite the contrary.

    • Donna

      I believe that’s Emperor penguins, Humbolts live in a less extreme habitat ,
      Also, this whole thing is taking place in captivity, not in nature. Any zookeeper will tell you that, despite the best efforts of keepers, captive animals often develop abnormally.

  • anna lisa

    Oh don’t get me going. Our three dogs (two male one female) were all switch hitters. Our boxer was so exasperatingly in need of an outlet, he finally just settled for air (the little kids dubbed it the doggy dance) It got to the point where he couldn’t function, even though Leonardo the majestic German Shepherd was more than accommodating. So Benson the Boxer ended up at the vet, returning home with his inverted dunce cap of shame. That worked–and saved me from awkward conversations about what the dogs were doing on the front lawn. I would shake my head at the older boys and say “hey, you know how they call some guys, DOGS?” It was a good lesson on what not to be.
    Animals will be animals–and that’s the whole point.

  • D.T. McCameron

    Are all links supposed to be the same?

    • sez

      Yes. And you’re meant to read it 3 times.

  • Matt J

    I recently came across this article, which has a rather interesting statement on homosexual animals: http://therationalmale.com/2014/04/20/homosexuality/

    Yes, homosexuality does have parallels in other animals. However, what’s
    conveniently overlooked is that most instances of this animal
    homosexuality often occurs in social animals that rely on a collective
    group for survival (like penguins). Homosexuality is almost non-existent
    in predatory animals. Among these social animals, homosexuality is
    generally exhibited in higher frequency only when the population of the
    collective has excessively higher proportions of one sex. Homosexuality
    is also exhibited in lower order animals such as insects and amphibians,
    however it’s postulated that this homosexuality is an instinctive
    survival mechanism necessary to prompt sexual amorphism. Certain animals
    (particularly fish and amphibians) have an ability to change sex
    (sexual amorphism) when high frequency or exclusively same sex members
    dominate a breeding population.

    I’m not sure what his source is for the claim that predatory animals generally don’t normally have rampant homosexuality in their ranks, but if true, that’s a very interesting observation. Humans are also considered apex predators.