The police state continues…

The police state continues… June 11, 2014

to protect the living daylights out of people:

SWAT throws flash grenade into crib, severely burning child

Less than two days after this, the DA cleared the task force of any wrongdoing, despite not having had time to investigate anything. When they shot an innocent pastor to death five years ago, the same DA also cleared them of any wrongdoing, even though one of the “officers” in that case was not actually licensed to be a cop or even carry a gun.

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  • jroberts548

    Obviously, if a cop looks where he’s aiming, then he’s putting himself and his colleagues at risk. It’s best for cops to just blindly throw stuff around. If cops pay attention to their surroundings, rather than blindly charging in and burning babies, then who knows what threats the cops will fail to neutralize?

    • Dave G.

      Your hatred of cops is noted.

      • jroberts548

        I absolutely hate cops who can’t look where they’re throwing a flash-bang. If the house they’re raiding is so dangerous – dangerous enough to justify a SWAT team and flash-bangs – it’s dangerous enough for them to pay attention to what’s going on while they’re in there. The standard “Oh, they’re just good guys making snap, life-and-death decisions; you don’t know what that’s like” excuse is absolute b.s. when it comes to throwing grenades around without looking.

      • chezami

        As is your sterling defense of cops who practically kill infants with their Gestapo tactics. So important to come down on the side of reckless power weilded against babies.

  • Mark S. (not for Shea)

    What is causing this? I’m not being snarky. I’m honestly baffled.
    Is it because we’re teaching police officers rules but not values?
    I’ve known lots of cops in my time, everything from city police to sheriff’s deputies to state offices to school resource officers. 95% of them are fine and decent public servants. But there are those final 5% that are the Tackleberrys of the world that somehow slip through the cracks. The guys who seem to have been born with a chip on their shoulder and want to use that badge to dare the world to knock it off. Just try it, punk.

    Maybe our police forces need to take a long, hard look at knighthood? Seems to me they need to put more emphasis on the values behind the rules rather than just memorizing the rules.

    • jroberts548

      Those 95% aren’t fine. They’re more than willing to stick up for and work next to the 5%. The problem with cops is that that mythical 95% values their brothers-in-blue more than they value not setting babies on fire.

      • Mark S. (not for Shea)

        That isn’t true of the officers I have known. With one exception.

        • jroberts548

          How many resigned rather than work for a department that tolerates those 5%? How many have refused to pay union dues to a union that protects that 5%? How many have taken any concrete action about that 5%?

        • Dave G.

          I agree.

  • The more productive approach is to ask, what would have been required for the outcome to be different? Perhaps it would have required a fibre optic camera to poke around the corner. Simple models run $145 on Amazon. That’s where your failure is, not asking the question how do we eliminate the use case of blindly throwing potentially harmful stuff around corners without looking first. That’s done within the budget cycle years prior to an event.

    So no, there’s no exigent circumstance here but the problem isn’t necessarily the guy who threw the flash bang. It’s the entire system that accepts, as policy, use cases where blind tossing flash bangs is preferrable to buying cameras that can look around corners for a few hundred bucks and engaging in a few thousand dollars of training that would teach them how to use it properly.

    I actually read a bit about the case just now and it seems like they didn’t even need to spend money. They just had to observe the signs that there were kids there. The time from informant reporting a drug buy to SWAT team throwing the flash grenade was measurable in hours, not days.

    The due diligence standards in GA before police are covered by immunity really need to be tightened up.

  • kirthigdon

    Or maybe just put an end to SWAT raids unless it’s known to be an armed barricade or hostage situation – and even in these cases, a raid should be the last resort. I’ve recently read of two instances of SWAT raids being used to arrest suspects in illegal campaign finance cases.
    Kirt Higdon