Planned Parenthood “Health Care”

Planned Parenthood “Health Care” July 31, 2015

Planned Parenthood likes to set itself up in low-income areas, where it is frequently the only ‘healthcare provider’ {sic} for the disenfranchised and desperate. That’s a cash crop for those trying to make a killing, both literally and figuratively.
Let’s take a look at the health care services PP does and doesn’t provide, shall we?

When somebody comes at you with their hair on fire telling you that defunding Planned Parenthood will be a shattering blow to “health care” remind them that Planned Parenthood DOES NOT provide:

-Prenatal Care
-Breast Biopsies
-Breast Cancer Diagnostic Care
-Primary Health Care
-Diabetes Treatment
-Treatment for Elevated Cholesterol
-Treatment for Elevated Blood Pressure
-Holistic Medicine
-Obstetrical Care
-Pediatric Care
-Care for HIV Positive Individuals
-Infertility Treatments

-Natural Family Planning Instruction
-Care for Uterine Fibroids
-Treatment for Polycystic Ovarian Syndrome
-Adoption Placement
-Prostate Exams
-Uterine Laser Ablation
-Cervical Laser Ablation
-Miscarriage Management
-Bladder Disorders and Urinary Problems
-Prolapsed Pelvic Floor Concerns
-Laparoscopic Procedures
-Treatment of Endometriosis
-Polyp Removal
-Endometrial Ablation
-BRCA Testing
-Bone Density Testing
-Treatment of Pelvic Pain
-Treatment of Vulvar Pain
-Molar Pregnancy Follow Up

Planned Parenthood DOES provide:

-First and Second Trimester Abortions
-Limited STD testing and treatment
-Pap Smears for Women in Child Bearing Years
-Limited Contraceptive Methods

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  • Would I be correct in assuming the pap smears, STD testing and contraceptive services are mandated by Obamacare?

  • ManyMoreSpices

    A little weird to see “prostate exams” on that list.

    With respect to “prenatal care,” it would be interesting if a woman in her second and third month of pregnancy went to PP with a hidden camera and began asking them about prenatal care, general wellness, how to eat healthy and exercise during pregnancy, etc. I imagine that the results might be illuminating. And best of all: no lying necessary.

  • I find it unlikely that the majority of Planned Parenthood centers are the only healthcare option. While I would not be surprised that PP asserts this, has anyone checked to see if it’s true?

    • Pete the Greek

      In my particular area, several blocks from some of our c class buildings, there is an abortuary. However, there are also 3 minute clinics, a larger Urgent Care type place and a small Dr office that specializes in low income care. I doubt this area is all that unique compared to the rest of the country.

      I had someone once claim during a debate on if planned parenthood should receive zero government handouts that only 5% of there income came from abortion and cutting off government funding just because of abortion would bankrupt them. I pointed out that if abortion was really so insignificant to their financial bottom line, and they needed tax money to survive, then the smart thing would be for them to cease all abortion activity, therefore removing their pariah status and ensuring their finding without really harming their bottom line.

      She didn’t really have an answer for that.

      • Until somebody actually maps out all medical providers and their service areas, proves it false, and widely disseminates this, this assertion of being the only medical hope for the poor will keep coming back when PP advocates think nobody will call them on it.

        • Amaryllis

          Until somebody maps out all medical providers and the services they actually provide, and their fees for doing so, and their geographic accessibility in poor or rural areas, this assertion of being the only available option for poor or uninsured women to receive basic-minimum reproductive-health services will keep coming back. Because it’s true in a whole lot of places.

          You don’t got to a Minute Clinic or an Emergency Care for contraceptives, pregnancy tests, STD tests, cancer screenings, etc.

          • Move goalposts much?

            • Amaryllis

              How is that moving goalposts? If there’s any moving of goals around here, it’s the claim that PP claims to be “the only [general] medical hope for the poor.” Which they don’t. They claim to be one of the few options for very basic-level reproductive health care for low-income and uninsured women.

              So, if you tell me that women can get equivalent care at an equivalent price in equivalent locations if PP is forced to close its doors, I’d like to see some documentation.

              If it’s “moving goalposts” to mention the results of the drive to defund women’s health services on non-PP-affiliated clinics, well, I stand by that too.

              • Hezekiah Garrett

                ‘If there’s any moving of goals around here, it’s the claim that PP claims to be “the only [general] medical hope for the poor.” ‘

                Do you have a source for that quote? Because it appears nowhere, from the OP thru to your comment. In fact, it looks like you made it up.

                • Amaryllis
                  • Pete the Greek

                    It’s actually a very common claim made by infanticide apologists. If this is your first time hearing about it, let me be the first to welcome you on your first ever jaunt onto the internet.

                    • Amaryllis

                      As they say on the Internet, citation needed.

                    • Pete the Greek

                      Get into a discussion with one. It comes up eventually. You’ll have all the citations you could want.

              • What I said is that it’s not appropriate to just take Planned Parenthood at its word and that we should check. In response, Pete the Greek gave a case study for one clinic that did have a healthy level of competition and speculated that the claim was false. I reiterated that until it was actually measured (and proven) the claim would keep coming back.

                You broke in and just gave one more flat assertion without evidence provided that Planned Parenthood is the only option for women’s health services and added further criteria to the prospective survey. That’s the point where the goalposts moved.

                The US health system has been rotting out at least since the introduction of medicare and medicaid. If we’re serious about fixing medical care, the problem has to be identified specifically and solutions devised for every area in the US. It’s a tremendous job. Planned Parenthood is not the right solution for the problem.

                • Amaryllis

                  No, Planned Parenthood is not the answer to every conceivable health care need. I never said it was. I don’t expect it to be.

                  What I said was that in many areas it is the major provider of a certain set of services to low-income women, and that if it is forced to close, I don’t know what would replace it.

                  ETA: and I still don’t see why it’s moving goalposts to reply to a statement that “there are other options” with a request for proof that the other options provide the same services.

                  Pete’s list included “3 minute clinics, a larger Urgent Care type place and a small Dr office that specializes in low income care… a major hospital close by and a Rachel House.” I don’t know that even that set of providers would be a substitute for PP. “Minute Clinics” and walk-in Urgent-Care centers generally provide common vaccinations and treatment for minor illnesses and injuries, maybe screening for high blood pressure, diabetes, general physical exams. They don’t do reproductive health care.

                  Without knowing anything about the doctor’s practice, I don’t know if it offers those services, or could serve as many clients as the PP clinic. The “major hospital” might indeed be an option, many of them do include free/low-cost women’s health clinics, so I’ll give him that one (for that particular area).

                  I’ve already discussed the inadequacy of Rachel House or any other CPC as a substitute for PP.

                  You’re right though, that I did just “break in”– I don’t usually comment on this blog, which is probably best for all of us.

                  • Pete the Greek missed some options. seems to be very big on STD testing but unless you actually search for that sort of thing, you won’t ever know it exists.

                  • Pete the Greek

                    “I don’t know what would replace it.”

                    – That’s the nice thing about a market economy and a country that, while flawed, still tries its best to take care of the poor, needed services, if not already provided elsewhere, would soon be provided.

                    This is real life, not Sim City. Just because you don’t know how someone else would provide the handful of real services once the child killing was stopped doesn’t mean it won’t happen.

                    • Amaryllis

                      Did you read the article I linked to? Texas defunded its PP clinics, and a whole bunch of non-PP-affiliated clinics as well.

                      Nothing replaced them. Do you think ti’s going to be different anywhere else?

                    • Sue Korlan

                      Are you sure the government health centers that exist in most areas of the country aren’t covering the same services? I don’t know, and I can’t really do searches on my phone, so someone else will have to look it up.

                    • sez

                      They are, and they outnumber PP clinics by almost 2 to 1:

                    • sez

                      Federally Qualified Health Centers + ACA replaced them.

                  • AquinasMan

                    I don’t know what would replace it

                    Why doesn’t Obama f*cking figure out how to replace it? He figured out how to dislodge and reconstruct the rest of our “health care” system, didn’t he? Or is he that f*cking busy on the golf course?

                    • IRVCath

                      Funnily enough, some of the Obamacare programs do just that. It’s almost as if Obama is not willing to admit that there are alternatives to PP, even when he was responsible for bringing it about. Such is politics.

                  • AnonyMom

                    There are over 1000 Federally qualified health centers in this country that do the things PP does minus abortions, and including the things in the above ‘not provided’ list. How about expanding their reach with the money that is being used by PP to perform abortions?

                • Sue Korlan

                  I’m poor and go to a clinic sponsored by one of the local hospitals that charges me $5 per visit. ( I don’t have health insurance because I’m not going to contribute to someone else’s use of contraceptives, regardless of the consequences. The other hospital offers something similar. So where there’s a hospital there very well may be a clinic to keep people out of the emergency room, which costs them a lot of money. It is illegal for emergency rooms to refuse to treat people with serious symptoms. Lots cheaper to send them to a cheap clinic in a bad neighborhood.

                  • There’s a whole science to it all called triage, though the bad neighborhood is optional.


                    • Sue Korlan

                      The bad neighborhood has lower rents and is nearer the people being served.

          • Pete the Greek

            There is also a major hospital close by and a Rachel House.


            ON EDIT: Minute clinics are usually in drug stores. They sell contraceptives there. I’ve not bought them myself, but I have checked prices: They are astoundingly cheap overall, especially compared to other goods that the poor buy lots of: alcohol and cigarettes.

            • Amaryllis

              Not everybody lives near a major hospital. Or even a minor one.

              I looked up Rachel House. No, they’re not going to be any help at all to women looking for contraceptives, STD tests, pap smears, pelvic exams, breast exams, mammography referrals.

              Uh, boom?

              • Pete the Greek

                Considering that there are lots of women who don’t live near an infanticide house either, how do they make do? Are you saying that PP is the only institution in America that offers those services?

                If PP were not available, are you saying not a single company would think to offer those services?

                • Amaryllis

                  Not if they couldn’t make money from them, they wouldn’t. Which is why the subsidies are needed in the first place.

                  And yes, women who don’t live near an abortion provider have to travel, sometimes for hours or days, often at considerable cost. Which is why the forced-birther (since we’re calling names) tactics of mandatory waiting periods and required double appointments and such are even more burdensome.

                  But since we’re calling names, we’re probably done.

                  • Planned Parenthood is not the low cost provider for STD testing. Your assumption that they are the low cost provider for all their services is faulty.

                  • Abortion is murder. That’s not name calling, it’s a fact. What was destroyed was not fetal frog.

        • Alma Peregrina

          So you think that informing your opinion and then presenting the facts and then disseminating the truth will stop an agressively ideology-biased group that is trying to justify its existence by spreading propaganda that fits their agenda from telling lies that people accept without questioning?

          I think you will be disapointed…

          • I think that it’s a better alternative to genocide. To admit that there is no peaceful way to fix the problem of the killing of innocents is an implicit call to violence.

            • Alma Peregrina

              Whoa… calm down. I never said you shouldn’t do it. I just questioned the straightforwardness of your claim that “until” somebody does this “this assertion (…) will keep coming back”.

              No, the assertion won’t stop coming back. But that doesn’t mean we quit trying to stop it. Where did you get that idea?

              I guess I’m just a little disillusioned with people’s ability to accept facts against thing they desperately want to be true.

              • I guess too quick on the trigger, sorry.

                My thought is that until that argument turns into a demonstrated loser and a guaranteed trip to social humiliation for being a fool, it will stop getting deployed. The logic is pure aversive conditioning.

    • Sue Korlan

      It’s certainly not true here in South Bend.

    • anna lisa

      In our town PP is in the poorest area. A woman without a car would need to go quite a distance, to get to the clinic where welfare patients can get prenatal care.

      • anna lisa

        But I should add this other bit of pertinent information–whenever we handed a PP patient a packet with directions to a nearby crisis pregnancy center, (where a poor woman could get help with all manner of problems including transportation), the abortion escorts would literally snatch it from her hands, even if the woman had willingly accepted it.
        I used ask the escorts how they could even pretend to be advocates for “choice”.

        • That sort of thing would make a great youtube video.

          • anna lisa

            Well–I was banned from the public sidewalk–500 feet on either side. We were always peaceful. Our local (Catholic) judge who ruled against us used to vacation with PP’s lawyer. The state appellate court upheld the decision under an anti “racketeering” law (RICOH) which has since been ruled against by the Supreme Court. She, interestingly enough, as a state senator, is now is pushing for euthanasia in CA. Her name is Hannah Beth Jackson. She was particularly distasteful to interact with. Judge Slater, her buddy, was later caught on film deflating the tires of a handicapped person who had the temerity to park in his special parking space at the courthouse…

      • Could you give the town or address of this clinic?

        • anna lisa

          Planned Parenthood, lower Garden Street, Santa Barbara

          • About a mile to the northwest of that facility is a cluster of 10 or so gynecologists operating under multiple groups. The trick I used is to type “gynecology doctor” into google maps.

            • anna lisa

              What’s the address?
              The county clinic is the only place where she can actually qualify for free care. It’s miles away.

        • anna lisa

          518 Garden Street.

      • Lamprotatia

        PP doesn’t really provide full prenatal care though. What do they actually provide beyond an initial test and maybe dating scan? Do they do screening for gestational diabetes, preeclampsia, and other common serious complications of pregnancy? Offer childbirth education classes? Doctors with delivery privileges at a hospital with a NICU? As far as I know, all they do is confirm the pregnancy, give boilerplate advice, and hand the women a packet telling them how to get on Medicaid and find a doctor who accepts it.

        • anna lisa

          You’re right.
          A lot of women would go for BC and free pregnancy tests. At least now, there is a dollar store in their neighborhood where they can buy tests for a buck, so they don’t get funneled into the PP door (where a perky “counselor” will tell them lies and offer fake compassion).
          The fact still remains that if she decides not to kill the baby, she will have to travel quite a distance from the poor east or west side, to get to the county clinic, where she can get *real* medical care.

  • UAWildcatx2

    Here’s my biggest issue: defenders of PP are also defenders of Obamacare. With Obamacare, they claim that it’s a success because they’ve been able to provide health care to millions of people. Yet then they say that defunding PP deprives people of health care. So…either Obamacare was a funnel for PP, or Obamacare isn’t all that and a bag of…carrot sticks.

    • IRVCath

      Though ironically, large parts of Obamacare make PP’s less grisly pursuits largely unnecessary. It may be that PP may die, and the cause of death may be “death by Obamacare”.

  • Michael

    Every time I think about this situation, my mental process devolves into a series of expletives. I hope that my reliance on Christ cleansing the temple grounds in righteous anger is not simply an indulgence in hatred. But I do not know how to feel about PP aside from pure hatred.

    • sez

      Pray for them. Those who work there are, by and large, duped into thinking that they are helping women. Read Abby Johnson’s book – Unplanned. And pray for them. They need the scales to fall from their eyes. I am hoping that these new videos are helping to make that happen.

  • AquinasMan

    The eyes, the eyes … I watched the fourth video, and my heart absolutely shattered at the display of human remains. The eyes, they were there. That beautiful soul smashed for mammon. The eyes … I can’t stop seeing them. It makes me cry to think about the eyes …

    Now I know why the saints cry out for God’s justice…

    • Josephine Kelly

      What 4th video?

      • sez

        It was released on Thursday. The visuals are hard to un-see. The money quotes include “Another boy” and “5-star kidneys”, and the doctor talking about late-term babies being delivered intact 10% of the time.

        • Josephine Kelly

          Ohh I’m am glad I missed that one.

  • JM1001

    George Orwell described the power of euphemisms in his “Politics and the English Language“:

    In our time, political speech and writing are largely the defence of the indefensible. Things like the continuance of British rule in India, the Russian purges and deportations, the dropping of the atom bombs on Japan, can indeed be defended, but only by arguments which are too brutal for most people to face, and which do not square with the professed aims of the political parties. Thus political language has to consist largely of euphemism, question-begging and sheer cloudy vagueness. Defenceless villages are bombarded from the air, the inhabitants driven out into the countryside, the cattle machine-gunned, the huts set on fire with incendiary bullets: this is called pacification. Millions of peasants are robbed of their farms and sent trudging along the roads with no more than they can carry: this is called transfer of population or rectification of frontiers. People are imprisoned for years without trial, or shot in the back of the neck or sent to die of scurvy in Arctic lumber camps: this is called elimination of unreliable elements. Such phraseology is needed if one wants to name things without calling up mental pictures of them.

    Euphemisms are so often used by our political leaders to obscure and hide what is plainly evil. So, for example, the euphemism “enhanced interrogation techniques” was used for years to defend the brutal torture of detainees. But once the torture memos were released, and all the grisly details of what was done were described, the euphemism was definitively exposed for what it was: an attempt to obscure and hide what is plainly evil. No one can use it anymore with a straight face, or expect to be taken seriously.

    Judging by this post, it looks like yet another significant euphemism may be in danger in our political debates: “reproductive health care” to describe what Planned Parenthood does. Heck, even “abortion” has become a kind of euphemism — an almost sterilized, clinical word that steers just clear of describing what it is: the taking of an unborn human life. The word has lost some of that effectiveness, though, which is why some pro-choice advocates have had to bite the bullet and admit that they believe that “all [human] life is not equal” and if abortion ends life, then so what?

    So the only effective euphemism pro-choice advocates have left is “reproductive health care.” But now — much like with the torture memos — this latest revelation about Planned Parenthood may threaten that euphemism with being exposed for what it is: obscuring and hiding the grisly details that we either willfully ignore or are blissfully unaware of. When a euphemism gets exposed, it’s like a glitch in the Matrix; people begin to see that perhaps the world around them is not what it seems.