In The Beginning…Physics?

In The Beginning…Physics? September 19, 2013

I saw this on Facebook. I really don't see the overlap. Sure, light is a connection. But spacetime isn't mentioned in Genesis, nor is hydrogen, and even if free will is implicit in the story in Genesis 3, uncertainty is not the same thing.

So I don't think this depicts “the quantum physics of Genesis” in any meaningful sense. What do others think?


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  • Kyle Garrison

    Quantum physics doesn’t necessarily suggest free will any way sooooo…

  • And I look at God’s world today and much of what I see is the result of Chaos.

  • Straw Man

    Are you saying you know what free will is? I see a potential connection, at least: without the uncertainty principle, the entire material universe would operate like clockwork–every future state predictable from the present state. (Yes, there would still be chaos, but chaos is a different sort of beastie entirely. Chaos is not unpredictable in principle; it’s only unpredictable in practice.)

    “The one single thing that makes the universe other than a giant clockwork” is certainly a good candidate for having some connection or other with free will. I’d suggest one possible hypothesis: that although our brains are in principle reproducible and predictable at the macro level, they operate on inputs that are not completely predictable, due to uncertainty at the micro level.

    Of course if you believe in ghosts, none of this is necessary–you could simply postulate that the interesting stuff happens on the spirit plane, and a clockwork universe may not be troubling to you. Not believing in ghosts myself, I find it very reassuring that the universe is not, in fact, a clockwork.

  • David Evans

    I don’t see that this links to Genesis at all. In Genesis we already have the Earth and the waters before light is created. That’s very different from protons and hydrogen.

    And as far as the science goes, if I read this correctly

    electromagnetism and Maxwell’s equations are present in the quark epoch, before the first protons arrive in the hadron epoch.

  • histrogeek

    I suppose this could be seen as some sort of personal connection between modern physics, Genesis, and the author’s views of the universe. It’s pretty fast and loose with the chronology of both modern physics and Genesis though.

  • Hello James, do you believe in libertarian freedom or that everything is kind of predetermined?

    The question of what came first is currently dividing atheist physicists, even if they don’t always realize the implications of their theories.

    Traditionally materialists have always taught that matter is the ultimate reality which has always existed.

    Yet in order to deal with theistic arguments such as “everything which begins to exist has a cause” and “why does something exist rather than nothing”, some extremely talended physicist like Hawking and Lawrence Krauss try to show that matter itself was created out of nothingness.

    The logical conclusion they seem unwilling to draw is that in order to avoid logical absurdities, their “nothingness” has to at least contains LAWS.
    So our material universe comes from something (which they call “nothing”) which lacks matter from any kind but contain laws of a mathematical and logical nature.

    Actually this is clearly a form of Platonism, perhaps even Idealism (see Wikepedia) since LAWS are more ultimate than matter.

    Lothars Sohn – Lothar’s son

    • I experience myself as having free will. I realize that physics may suggest that I do not, but it is not possible in practice to live as though I do not.

  • Jeff Carter
  • arcseconds

    You’ll never find free will in the motions of subatomic particles, whether or not they’re behaving in an uncertain fashion.