Why Didn’t God Stop the Church Shooting?

Why Didn’t God Stop the Church Shooting? June 24, 2015
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This cartoon should serve as a helpful reminder to fundamentalists. You must make sure to use the right implausible answer to the specific question asked. Otherwise, theological and ethical confusion might result (in other words, the problems with your worldview might be exposed to your conversation partner and, worse still, to you).

 

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  • Mike

    I get the point but it needs a first panel. “Why didnt God stop the school shooting” because God’s not allowed in school” and then the next. I know it’s implied, but will the people who need to get it get it, or is it just for us who already do?

    • I did think it was clear enough, since the one character begins to say the same thing and then stops himself. And you seem to have understood it. Have you encountered someone who didn’t get it?

      • Horseman Bree

        Clear enough to me, especially with the “school” sign in the background.

  • John MacDonald

    Now that’s something I’d pay to see: A superstition stop a bullet!

  • archaeologist

    How will we experience the fullness of God, see him heal, or see his
    compassion if nothing bad ever happens to us? McGrath misses the point.
    Jesus did not place us in a bubble where nothing would happen to us but
    said that the world would hate us, persecute us and do all sorts of evil
    toward us. He didn’t sugar coat life with him nor did he want us to
    remain as vulnerable weak spiritual babies. He wants us to grow up and
    be spiritual adults knowing the answers to these difficult situations.

    • You missed the point of the cartoon. It is addressing those fundamentalists who respond to a shooting in a school by claiming it is because of the removal of prayer in schools. And so then when a church shooting happens, that answer is shown to be bogus, as they cannot apply it in such instances.

      • archaeologist

        I didn’t miss the point; I thought it was insulting, degrading and showed a lack of understanding. A lot of Christians just do not know the answer but to satisfy the unbeliever who is asking about it, they come up with whatever response they can think of.

        Mocking other people certainly is not a Christian teaching so why you are participating in that action is beyond reason.

        • You don’t believe that Elijah mocked the prophets of Ba’al?!

          Did it ever occur to you that we who are Christians glorify God more when we remain silent, or humbly acknowledge we do not know, rather than spouting the first nonsensical or blasphemous thing that pops into our heads?

          • archaeologist

            “You don’t believe that Elijah mocked the prophets of Ba’al”

            I have yet to find one scripture verse that tells us to follow Elijah’s example. Elijah’s mocking was not used to say, ‘go and do thou likewise’.

            I see you missed my point. You as a Sunday School teacher would know the verse, ‘do unto others…’ One would think you would have implemented that teaching into your life by now.

          • You blind leader of the blind. You strain out a galma and swallow a gamla!

          • archaeologist

            now why would you go and say that for? you just prove me right

    • Nick G

      Allowing bad things to happen to someone so you can heal them or show your “compassion” to them is vile.

      • archaeologist

        only according to you

        • No, torturing someone so that they will be grateful when you stop is a well-known brainwashing tactic that is widely accepted to be illegal as well as immoral.

          • archaeologist

            who said God is doing the torturing. Jesus said, ‘pick up your cross and follow me’ informing us that we will be persecuted for our beliefs. allowing something to take place is not the same as torturing someone.

            if you do not accept the existence of satan and evil then your view of suffering, persecution and other tragedies is skewed and lacking very needed information

          • Nick G

            allowing something to take place is not the same as torturing someone.

            It is just as reprehensible, if you have the power to stop it and choose not to. If any human being had had the power to prevent the church shooting and chose not to, any decent person would condemn their failure to do so. Exactly the same applies if God could have done so and chose not to.

            if you do not accept the existence of satan and evil then your view of suffering, persecution and other tragedies is skewed and lacking very needed information

            So, is God unable to thwart Satan, or unwilling to do so?

          • James Matthew

            Doesn’t Christianity declare that the person of Jesus was set to be a bloody sacrifice on the cross even before the creation of Adam and Eve. So YHWH arranges reality so that Jesus has to die in a torturous and horrible way.

            See Revelation 13:8 which says Jesus is “the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.”

            See also 1 Peter 1:20 “He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.”

            So Jesus being tortured to death comes about because its how YHWH planned things to be and as he is held to be all-powerful his will and plans can not be thrown off – therefore his will that Jesus be tortured to death came about.

            Before there were people who could sin, YHWH’s plan was to lay things out to bring about the the death of Jesus by torture. So is it not correct to say YHWH did not “allow something to take place” he arranged for it to happen?

          • James Matthew

            Doesn’t Christianity declare that the person of Jesus was set to be a bloody sacrifice on the cross even before the creation of Adam and Eve. So YHWH arranges reality so that Jesus has to die in a torturous and horrible way.

            See Revelation 13:8 which says Jesus is “the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.”

            See also 1 Peter 1:20

            He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

            So Jesus being tortured to death comes about becuase its how YHWH planned things to be and as he is held to be all-powerful his will and plans can not be thrown off – therefore his will that Jesus be tortured to death comes about.

            Before there were people who could sin, YHWH’s plan was to lay things out to bring about the the death of Jesus by torture. So is it not correct to say YHWH did not “allow something to take place” rather he actively arranged for it to happen.

  • Jamie Douglas