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Do you agree? Why or why not?
I agree with the spirit of it, but it also presupposes a knowledge of “what Jesus taught,” and if I’m going to say that Christianity in America en masse is wrong about that, I also have to allow for the possibility that I am also wrong about that.
*what the Gospels say Jesus taught
That still doesn’t help. I interpret the Gospels, as do the people I’m claiming are wrong in the meme.
So your position is there are no texts, only readers. Got it.
Well, that was kind of a stupid thing for you to say.
We only get meaning from texts when we read them, squire.
So that seems to have gone totally over your head. Your response does demonstrate you have a lack of formal education in hermeneutics.
Hilarious. That’s your counter point. “Your response does demonstrate you have a lack of formal education in hermeneutics.” Are you trying to work your way through every formal logical fallacy or what? I recommend excluded middle for your next comment.
It turns out I have a formal education in hermeneutics, but that’s beside the point. It was woefully inadequate, in my opinion, so I’ll take your circumstantial ad hominem as it stands.
Do you have any actual argumentation? You’re not smart enough to sway me to your position just on the basis of your raw prowess.
That’s ironic, as it are complicated theories that get us to what the historical Jesus taught.
What passes for Christianity in America? The stones cry out!!
I imagine perhaps every American Christian could agree with this, just with very different ideas about who is denying Christ and what complicated theories they’re using to do this.
I wonder if all that many even care or know what Jesus taught. They use complicated theories, to achieve, power, money, and fame. Build castles and call them churches, sell books, create fame to get hired as a high dollar speaker. Use complicated theories to control the adherents pocketbooks and insure funding for all of this.
It depends on how you see Christianity.
The meme implies that Christ taught unconditional love and mercy. Then there are those who don’t feel Christ taught love and mercy, but that Christ taught that God has made us responsible to condemn those we think are “too sinful”, and see God as loving conditionally. In other words, when we sin God turns his back on us until we repent and then after repentance still punishes us for our sin or makes us do penance to get back into God’s graces. The latter are distorting Christ’s teachings and use complicated theories to explain their belief. Just my two cents worth.
This statement could come out of the mouth of an ultra-conservative fundamentalist Christian or an ultra-liberal Christian, with the same degree of sincerity and completely opposite notions what it means to “reject what Jesus taught”.