Michael and Karen have a conversation about her story described in her new book, "Too Much and Not Enough: Sacred Thoughts Said Out Loud." Karen shares with a refreshingly brutal honesty about her experiences growing up under the influence of toxic theological systems that left her doubting her sanity, her identity, and her voice. Like many men and women who have been hurt by the Church they loved, or betrayed by the pastors they trusted, Karen’s story is filled with disappointment and grief. BUT, as she writes from her heart and makes room for healing, she discovers a deeper hope, and a surprising amount of grace waiting for her—and all of us—on the other side. To learn more and grab Karen's book, visit: https://www.karenruthshock.com/ Michael's new book: https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Bad-Faith-Exposing-Violence-ebook/dp/B0C9L21ZXD/ Learn the facts and how to rebuild faith at the Religious Deconstruction Workshop: https://www.spiritualbrewpub.com/spiritual-freedom-deconstruction-workshops Join the Deconstructing Evangelicalism Support Community: https://www.meetup.com/deconstructing-evangelicalism-support-group/ MORE EPISODES