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Interesting, in many Churches it’s customary to clap after a baby (or on rare occassion, an adult) has been baptized. I always understood that as welcoming a child into our Church. Would you consider that a sign that the essence of liturgy has totally disappeared?
I don’t think his holiness would consider the grace of the sacraments a “human achievement”
All the more reason for the return of the traditional Latin Mass.
Here’s some Latin for you: Abusus non tollit usum
Please help me to see the connection between praying in the vernacular and applause.
Whew! For a second there I thought this was religious titillation, but since there’s no clapping I can take a deep sigh of relief:
hahahaha that was priceless
I always think applause is out of place in the mass, and even the sanctuary. The mass is about God, not us. I once attended a Scott Hahn lecture inside a church. Thunderous applause at the end, of course, for his excellence, but he turned his back to the audience, faced the tabernacle, and directed his applause to God. He righteously and humbly recognized himself as merely the vessel of God’s awesomeness. For him, it was about God.
I have literally cringed when people clap for things during the liturgy or even immediately following it (like for the musicians…this is a ministry not a concert).
A woman performed Schubert’s Ave Maria after communion at my church one time. It was beautiful. Stunningly beautiful. I don’t even know if there was a special occasion for it. But really, it was painfully beautiful, truly heartwrenching.
And then people applauded the performer. It was like someone inviting someone over for dinner and having them try to pay you or something equally outrageous. Completely destroyed the beauty of the moment. It was sad.
Amen. I got some flack for writing this a while ago.
How about “charismatic Masses” where people “clap for God”?
OH i’M GETTIN THERE.
but what if we applauded when the Monstrance is exposing OUR LIFE AND OUR LORD?
then we are not recognizing the True Presence, only imitating recognition. If you’re spontaneous impulse open seeing the crucifixion is to clap, there’s an issue.
My church has this custom of welcoming every visitor- seriously, every visitor has to stand up and tells us his name and where he’s from – and we clap for every person, because they managed to visit us from New Jersey or whatever. Then, right before Mass ends, we have announcements, and clap for every birthday, promotion, anniversary, or Joey passing his end of grade test. It.drives.me.nuts. Sometimes we actually have to sing Happy Birthday.
i keep this quote on my wall and am always veeerrrry tempted to bring it in to my school choir director with me and also many other people… sighhh….
Can someone advise the source of this quote?
To understand this statement read the following link about applause at homilies: http://catholic.net/index.php?option=dedestaca&id=1798&grupo=Church%20Teaching%20QA&canal=Liturgy%20Explained
This is the part of the article concerning the above statement: In his book “The Spirit of the Liturgy” the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger wrote: “Whenever applause breaks out in the liturgy because of some human achievement, it is a sure sign that the essence of liturgy has totally disappeared and been replaced by a kind of religious entertainment” (Page 198). The context of the present Pope’s remarks was regarding applause after so-called liturgical dancing; it did not directly address our present case of applause as a sign of respect and agreement to the message of the homily. The principle involved, however, of not applauding the merely human achievement of one of the liturgical actors could be a good rule of thumb for deciding when applause is appropriate or not.
I guess black folks do it different. In my Baptist church, it would be unthinkable not to applaud. I was raised Catholic, tho, and applause in the church was unimaginable. And the funny thing is, I approve of both these traditions.
Lighten up, Your Holiness. Sheesh.
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