It's morning in fascist America

Bushhitler_sdHere’s David Gates, in the Sept. 20 issue of Newsweek, reviewing Philip Roth’s novel The Plot Against America, in which Charles Lindbergh is elected president (as the Republican candidate, naturally) and turns America into a fascist state:

Roth doesn’t oversell any parallels between his imaginary 1940s and the real present. But anybody who feels hopeless at the ascendancy of today’s Christian right may feel a chill.

Now David Gelernter in the Sept. 13 issue of The Weekly Standard (subscription required), responding to George Soros’ comparison of America and Nazi Germany:

Has the Republican Congress decreed a U.S. version of the Nuremberg race laws? Has the administration transformed every American news source into a propaganda machine? Demanded that Jews (or anyone) be fired? That Jewish (or any other kind of) shops, businesses, professionals be boycotted? Propaganda posters everywhere? Students thrown out of schools? Secret police grabbing people off the streets? Children urged to inform on parents? All opposition parties banned? Churches harassed? A “Bush Youth” that every “Aryan” boy must join? Storm-troopers holding torchlight parades, singing hate-mongering war songs? Gigantic communal fines levied against Jews (or anyone else)? State-sponsored pogroms? Massive regimentation and rearmament? A führer cult and special schools to train disciples? Brutal suppression of all regime opponents? No? Actually America under Bush resembles Nazi Germany in no way whatsoever, isn’t that so?

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  • molly

    Not yet.

  • mark

    Oh come on. “Not yet” I stand against some of the things Bush has done, particularly endorsing programs like TIPS, the patriot act, and others. However, there is not one shred of suggestion that he would take us down that particular road.

    Indeed, the most likely candidate group for the above questions given today’s political climate would be those of middle-eastern descent. Yet Bush continues to push against prejudices, claiming the majority of Muslims are peaceful, etc. Despite constant rising evidence to the contrary even. In truth, the number of peaceful muslims is definately in the minority. Not in THIS country, but as a whole.

    Such an accusation is ridiculous. If you want to speak against things Bush has done, then I would even encourage you to do so, even if I don’t agree with your point of view. But this kind of absurd rhetoric is really over-the-top, and makes you look foolish.

  • molly

    “absurd rhetoric”?

    Two words are absurd rhetoric? Why isn’t this?

    “Indeed, the most likely candidate group for the above questions given today’s political climate would be those of middle-eastern descent. “

  • Wooderson

    It’s like an argument with college marxists:

    “Marx was wrong.”

    “Marx knew you would say that”

    So… not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet…

    No evidence required, just “not yet”.

  • molly

    Wooderson and Mark:

    I am intrigued by the intensity of your responses. Maybe somewhere deep down you agree but are too frightened to say so?

    As to evidence, when was the last time the two of you, decent, law-abiding, God-fearing, tax-paying, solid citizens got on a flight without first taking off your shoes?

    It’s a small thing, sure. But so is the mustard seed.

  • sharon

    Maybe some resemblance in the growing cultural imperative for abortion & euthanasia of “lives not worthy of life,” & the return of eugenics to respectability.

  • Ken

    Molly -

    You really should investigate the concept of the double bind.

    I recently read an article by a gay rights activist on the relationship of that movement to fascism. The connections are strong, and hardly “right wing”. Looking at Canada today, we see the evidence: a teacher suspended over a letter to the editor which states the Christian understanding of homosexual practice; a Christian teacher’s college threatened for a student code forbidding fornication (homosexual or heterosexual), a Catholic high school forced to admit a homosexual couple to the prom, a Christian printer forced to do business which violates his conscience. Sweden is further along this road.

    In the United States, the left is moving as well. Catholic hospitals under threat of force to provide abortions. Catholic institutions of various kinds potentially forced to provide insurance for “reproductive services”. Sharon mentions abortion and euthanasia, which are the sacraments of the John Kerrys, not the George Bushes.

    There’s much of Pres. Bush’s policies with which I disagree. To equate him to a Nazi, however, reveals a barren political imagination: empty heads mouthing empty slogans.

  • molly

    Ken -

    So we are “bound” to fascism by both the left and the right. Nader (or third or more party options) is looking better all the time….

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