CCM digs deep into tmatt’s closet

1982 04 24 Pic001Fellow journalists, may I ask you a question? How would you feel if something that you wrote 25 years ago suddenly came swimming out of the digital mysts of the World Wide Web without warning?

That is what happened to me this week, and it was a bizarre experience. I remember the article, of course.

It was an interview with a hot but still largely unknown young rock band from Ireland called U2. I was a college-town rock writer at the time and had written a column for the Champaign-Urbana News Gazette based on the lyrics of the October album — a young priest at the Newman House on the University of Illinois campus helped me confirm that the Latin fragments in “Gloria” were from the Mass — and then did a telephone interview with Bono just before they hit town.

Here is the key: Bono and The Edge knew very little about what was already called Contemporary Christian Music and they were turned off by what they had heard. I was writing for a mainstream newspaper, so they took the interview. I also made Bono a tape to introduce him to the music of Bruce Cockburn (the Humans album, plus some other tracks) and T-Bone Burnett (Truth Decay) and he was knocked out by both guys. He still is, I would wager.

So I spent most of that February afternoon with the band, listening to sound check, catching the show (click here for the set list and note the wild encore) and then staying afterwards to talk and sit in on a bit of the band’s post-show rituals — equal parts Bible study and chats with fans in the now-empty hall on campus.

This was, I learned, one of the first — if not the first — times on this side of the Atlantic in which Bono, Edge and Larry had talked openly about their faith. Thus, after writing a second piece for the local newspaper, I tried to turn the interviews into a freelance piece for a national publication.

If you were a young journalist in 1982, where would you have taken the article? Right. I tried Rolling Stone. However, the editors there refused to believe me when I described the article. They thought I was making this up. So then I turned to Esquire, which was in a new-journalism but serious journalism stage. Esquire ended up running one paragraph in a roundup.

I didn’t know what else to do and I had few options. So I turned to a relatively new magazine on the scene, CCM, which agreed to run the article as written. And that is what came out on the Internet this week. This is how the old article starts:

The members of the rock ’n’ roll band U2 know they have many people confused. Two members of the band use strange stage names — Bono and The Edge. No one seems to know how old — or young — they really are. No one knows what to call U2′s music.

And now, a few members of the rock press have started to raise another question. As the band worked its way across America this spring during its third US tour, a few people began to show signs of actually hearing what the band was saying on its second album, October. After listening to the lyrics of songs like “Gloria,” “With a Shout,” “Tomorrow,” and “Rejoice,” a few interviewers started hitting the members of the band with a loaded question: What are you, a bunch of Christians or something?

“It’s time to talk about it,” U2 guitarist The Edge said quietly after a recent concert on a campus in the Midwest. As it turns out, almost everything The Edge says is quiet. He does not act like a rock ’n’ roll guitar star. “We realize the band … is at a crossing point. For a long time we haven’t talked with interviewers about the fact we’re Christians, because it’s so easy for people to misunderstand. It’s easy for people who are not Christians, especially writers who do not understand, to take what we say and misinterpret it.”

The four members of U2 will not speak for each other about religion and Christianity. Various members of the band are at different stages of individual journeys of faith. They are all scared of being stereotyped.

The Edge and [drummer Larry] Mullen, both 19, were reading the New Testament and downing glasses of orange juice in the dim auditorium dressing room. Bono, 20, and [bassist Adam] Clayton, 21, were upstairs talking with fans and would be down to join in the discussion later. The Edge said they try to make Bible study and prayer a regular part of their “winding down” process after shows.

The scene seemed strange. An hour before, these same young rockers were pounding out a torrid 90-minute set of hard rock songs off the band’s first album, Boy, and the more recent October, released last year. October is full of obvious songs about faith and the struggle to live a Christian life in 20th-century battle zones such as the band’s home — Dublin, Ireland. The Edge finally realized somebody was going to have to speak out.

“I really believe Christ is like a sword that divides the world,” he said, “and it’s time we get into line and let people know where we stand. You know, to much of the world, even the mention of the name of Jesus Christ is like someone scratching their nails across a chalkboard.”

This article is so old that I am almost sure that I wrote it on a typewriter, rather than stealing some time at work to write on the newspaper’s mainframe computer.

There is so much more that we know now about that era in the band’s life. Thus, people who know their U2 history can read between the lines in many places. Near the end, note that Bono is already talking about starvation and world hunger. We talked about Africa in the interviews.

But here is why I share this on this blog, other than to be able to offer my two cents about something that I wrote early in my career that is now circulating online.

Bono and The Edge wanted to make it very clear that they were not Christian musicians. They had no interest in using “Christian” as some kind of marketing term for their work.

Only months earlier, the band had made a decision to remain in the mainstream and not to flee into some shadow Christian culture. Bono told me that he was convinced that there was no such thing as “Christian music.” He said he was simply a man struggling to be a Christian and that it would be absurd and wrong for him to presume that he could attach a lofty word such as “Christian” to his music. I think he would say the same thing today — word for word.

Bono Tmatt 2001Thus, you can imagine how appalled I was when the CCM article came out and it ended like this:

U2: A CCM Selected Discography

Boy, ILPS-9646, ’80; October, ILPS-9680, ’81.

Boy does not contain significant ccm material except for “I Will Follow,” which took on new spiritual meaning for the group after its release.

This implied that October did contain significant “ccm material” and that the band was part of that niche music scene.

At the time of the Unforgettable Fire tour, I was able to stress to Bono that I didn’t write that final reference. The last label that anyone could attach to this band’s music — then or now — is CCM. Anyone who wants to know more about this subject should read Bono: In Conversation with Michka Assayas.

Obviously, and I mean this as no insult to the CCM editors who ran my piece so long ago, I still wish that this story had originally come out in one form or another in Rolling Stone. That would have made the subject legitimate from day one. This was a very, very rough draft of an important story about an important band. I am glad that the article was published.

However, as you can tell by reading the text of my article, the last thing I wanted to do was pin a label on U2.

Top photo, from the depths of MySpace land. Second photo, U.S. Senate photo office.

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Terry Mattingly directs the Washington Journalism Center at the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities. He writes a weekly column for the Universal Syndicate.

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  • David Buckna

    Terry writes: “I also made Bono a tape to introduce him to the music of Bruce Cockburn (the “Humans” album, plus some other tracks) and T-Bone Burnett (“Truth Decay” and he was knocked out by both guys. He still is, I would wager.”

    When I first heard the following lyrics from Bruce Cockburn’s “Mystery” (from his 2006 album Life Short Call Now)

    http://www.cockburnproject.net/songs&music/mystery.html

    Infinity always gives me vertigo
    Vertigo
    Vertigo
    Infinity always gives me vertigo
    And fills me up with grace

    …I immediately thought of U2′s song, Vertigo. Was this a nod from Bruce to U2? I wonder. U2 gave a nod to Bruce on “God Part II”:

    http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2005/s05120086.htm

    10. From “God Part II”: “Heard a singer on the radio/Late last night/Says he’s gonna kick the darkness/Til it bleeds daylight./I, I believe in love.” Who’s the singer Bono is referring to?

    Answer:

    10. Bruce Cockburn, who sings on “Lovers in a Dangerous Time”: “When you’re lovers in a dangerous time/Sometimes you’re made to feel as if your love’s a crime/But nothing worth having comes without some kind of fight/Got to kick at the darkness ’til it bleeds daylight/When you’re lovers in a dangerous time”–from the album, Stealing Fire (1984) http://cockburnproject.net/songs&music/liadt.html

  • http://www.brucecockburn.org Hue

    Very interesting article, TMatt. For more on Bruce Cockburn, check out Gavin’s Woodpile- The Bruce Cockburn Newsletter at http://www.brucecockburn.org

  • BluesDaddy

    Tmatt,

    I remember “discovering” U2 in 1982 as a seminary student. It may have been from your article in “CCM” (though it wasn’t called “CCM” at that point, was it?). But I can’t remember. I do remember being blown away by it and going out and purchasing “Boy” as well. Cockburn I had been introduced to by a friend a couple years earlier and was well on my way to collecting everything he had at the time on vinyl “cutouts” at the local Turtles Record stores (I still have them all, BTW). “Truth Decay” is the one T-Bone Burnett LP I have. While I may not always (rarely?) agree with their political stands, I’ve always enjoyed the music and the passion expressed in it. I was just listening to a bunch of Cockburn the other day, direct off my computer playing through my hi-fi system.

    1982 – Was that *really* 25 years ago?

  • http://umichigan.facebook.com/profile.php?id=2260757 Barbara

    Wonderful article. I feel old. Thanks for the U2 memories.

    I am now realizing that my attraction to U2 was because they dared to do their “God walk” outside the confines of much of the Christian cultural norms. It’s an Irish thing, I do believe…

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  • Laura

    Thanks for sharing your history of U2. I remember the first time I heard my sister’s tape of The Joshua Tree. I was probably 12 at the time and thought it was amazing. Last year I attended my second U2 concert. I have to say that I felt the Holy Spirit’s presence the entire time. Yes, U2 isn’t your average Christian band but they do bring me closer to the Lord when I hear their music…isn’t that what all music should do.

  • Shawn

    Thank you very much for bringing back a GREAT memory. I remember reading the article for the first time after I had “discovered” War and had found October and Boy. This article help seal what I had figured about the “boys”. They were FAMILY. To this day I feel that they are my “kid”
    brothers who, though I’ve never met, have brought me back to God many times. Thank you very much for reintroducing the srticle to a new era. May many of your newer readers get as motivated by the “boys” as I have.


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