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  • Another Catholic blog!!!

    We multiply like tribbles!!!

  • Laura Kazlas

    The pope encouraged a smaller church whose members agree with the basic teachings of the catholic faith though. Pro-choice and pro-life Catholics have opposing points of view for an example.

    • Mark Shea

      Actually, he encouraged no such thing. He merely observed that the Church naturally goes through periods when those who don’t believe the gospel leave her. He did not, in the least, encourage anybody to leave and still less did he encourage self-appointed lay inquisitors to begin drumming the allegedly impure out of the Church.

  • Hi Mark, thanks much for the mention of my site, I appreciate it. Judging from all the visitors I’m seeing today, it seems you have a popular blog! Congrats on that.
    To opine a bit, I’d suggest the basic teachings of the Catholic faith start with the word love. If we’d finish learning that word before moving on to the others, things might be a bit happier in Catholic land. Again, thanks for the link!

    • Clare Krishan

      pulleeze do us a favor and use colloquial English not the Soviet Harvard illusion* verbiage — “Constructively Managing The Reality Of Catholic Diversity.” You lost this reader’s desire to dialog right there: I don’t want to be ‘managed’ thank you very much, and no I don’t think that the tobacco companies rank as the $2 faith topic I’d be willing to dialog with anyone to foster unity of catholicity.
      * see and (p61)

    • Dave

      Agreed, but “love” (or charity) is tethered necessarily to the truth. As Pope Benedict XVI said in the introduction to _Caritas in Veritate_:

      Only in truth does charity shine forth, only in truth can charity be authentically lived. Truth is the light that gives meaning and value to charity. That light is both the light of reason and the light of faith, through which the intellect attains to the natural and supernatural truth of charity: it grasps its meaning as gift, acceptance, and communion. Without truth, charity degenerates into sentimentality. Love becomes an empty shell, to be filled in an arbitrary way. In a culture without truth, this is the fatal risk facing love. It falls prey to contingent subjective emotions and opinions, the word “love” is abused and distorted, to the point where it comes to mean the opposite. Truth frees charity from the constraints of an emotionalism that deprives it of relational and social content, and of a fideism that deprives it of human and universal breathing-space. In the truth, charity reflects the personal yet public dimension of faith in the God of the Bible, who is both Agápe and Lógos: Charity and Truth, Love and Word.

  • Obpoet

    Phil, I love the sound of that advice.

  • Marion (Mael Muire)

    A mother had seven sons at home with her while their father, a great king, was abroad on campaign. The king had communicated with his wife from the boys’ infancy by letter, as well as through interviews with visiting generals and other of his official staff and personal retinue when they returned home on temporary leave. They all paid their respects to the queen and the princes and carried messages of affection and devotion back and forth among the family.

    Several of the sons of this king and queen were so loyal to their parents that they believed everything their parents told them. And even when what they were told was difficult or troubling, these sons discussed the matter together to find out how they could arrive at a clearer understanding of their father’s communiques and their mother’s explanation of it, and so incorporate it among the other things they knew about the king their father and the queen their mother.

    But two of the other sons kept looking to enemy nations and to how their reigning families conducted their affairs, because it seemed to these sons that the way the way of life of these foreign nations was pleasanter and more profitable than their own. And they kept telling their mother and their father that the ways of these foreign lands ought to be tried in their home, too, and they were sure that the people would love them better. And time and time again, the parents said no, in many ways, and at different times. But these sons were most determined to adopt the ways of the enemies.

    When the sons who believed whatever their parents told them, insisted on keeping to their parents’ ways, their brothers with their eyes on foreign ways told them that their father hadn’t really understood how matters stood apart from his own narrow view, that their mother had a limited education and could not read their father’s letters properly, that the visiting generals and staffers from their father’s household had reasons of their own to speak as they did to the family at home, and that the entire family should pay attention to what these foreign enemies were doing, and if it seemed pleasant, to find ways to set aside the wishes of their father the king and their mother the queen as outmoded and old-fashioned, and follow them, instead.

    Love always hopes that the lost will see the light, . . . but until the lost come home, between these brothers, where can there be unity?

  • Thanks Obpoet!

    Dave, there are many fine loving people who aren’t Catholic. See the article on my site entitled “Meet An Inspiring Love Leader” for an example.

    If we can accept and celebrate loving people who aren’t Catholic, we should be able to accept and celebrate loving Catholics who don’t share our beliefs on every issue.

    • The difference is that the people who don’t share our Catholic beliefs and aren’t Catholic have integrity. Either way, whether Catholic or non-Catholic, we have to love them, but love can never be separated from truth.

      For example, if a person about to drink a cup of hydrochloric acid while laboring under the mistaken belief that the cup is filled with water , it is loving to warn them that they are making a grave error that will probably cost them their life, and not loving to say that we’ll just agree to disagree.

  • Dave, perhaps love can’t be separated from the truth because Love is the Truth? Not ideology, love. Ideology is talk about love, not love itself, an important difference perhaps.
    As for agreeing to disagree, I would propose that the majority of time that’s the most constructive option, as we don’t really have the ability to persuade.