Karl Keating Chats with Pete Vere…

about his relationship with Gerry Matatics. A sad story but I think a fair and just account.

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"So much for hating the sin and loving the sinner. Boy was Augustine dumb."

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  • Sean P. Dailey

    Gerry Matatics surfaced about eight or so years ago on the commentary track in the special features of the DVD of Gibson’s The Passion of the Christ. Apparenty he was some sort of script consultant. The few things that that movie gets wrong — such as Jesus, on the cross, refusing the drink of wine offered to him by the Roman* — may be Gerry’s fault.
    *John, the only Evangelist who was an eyewitness to the crucifixion, says that Jesus drank the wine (or vinegar, if you prefer). Gibson and Matatics, however, in the commentary track, said that when Jesus said he was thirsty, he was actually thirsty for souls, not for something to drink. it’s an appalling misreading. Maybe it’s a sedevacantist thing. I don’t know.

    • Rosemarie


      St. Matthew 27:34 says that Christ refused the wine mixed with gall that they gave Him *before* nailing Him to the Cross. I’ve variously heard that the gall was typically offered to the condemned, either to dull the pain and/or to poison the victim so he died sooner, thus minimizing the duration of his execution. This would be why Jesus refused it; so that He could suffer fully for our sins.

      Later, on the Cross He accepted the drink they gave Him when He said “I thirst.” It was two different things; St John doesn’t say that the latter drink contained gall.

      The “thirsty for souls” thing is a mystical explanation of Christ’s words which I have heard from other Catholic sources. This may well have been another, deeper meaning to what He said, but that doesn’t rule out the more literal sense that He was physically thirsty by the end of His ordeal. Even as His words “Woman, behold your son… Behold your Mother” have both a literal meaning (St. John would take care of Our Lady from then on) and a mystical one (Our Lord gave her to us all as our spiritual Mother).