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Calls up sick Traditionalist critic, graciously accepts criticism. Even Rorate Coeli is impressed.
I love this guy so much.
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Totally fearless and no sense of self-importance at all. God bless him!
The people squawking about his “false humility” ought to be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.
I appreciate Pope Francis’ approach to his traditionalist critics – particularly his presumption of good will.
Let us all emulate our Holy Father’s approach and accept his challenge to act charitably toward everyone, without exception – including one’s critics.
So does that mean that Rorate Caeli and others are going to begin accepting liberal criticism or is this we expect the Pope to reaffirm our righteous position but aren’t going to adjust are approach to others sort of thing? Because the hypocrisy uncovered by this one is astounding. Caeli and other traditionalist types would be applauding the firing of a liberal Catholic writer who dared to criticize Benedict.
Papa set a good example. Why not try to build off of that?
It takes two to tango however, and I don’t want the fact Francis called a critic who he thought was unfairly fired to be used by the self-righteous set to deflect every criticism.
Then by all means, go preemptive with your attack. I wonder if the Pope would do such a thing.
Increasingly, I am amused by the nastiness of the self-proclaimed “defenders and lovers” of Pope Francis in pointing out to others how they (the others) simply “don’t get Francis.”
Again, Papa set a good example for us all. Let’s ALL reflect on that and act accordingly.
Sometimes it really is just a good idea to accept that a good deed was done, and not to read too much into it. Just accept it for what it was: a good deed, and a way to build bridges with those we don’t see eye to eye with.
I think this is pretty clearly and incident of run-of-the-mill Reactionary Narcissism on RC’s part. Attention was Paid to US! Expecting them to be open to criticism themselves is asking way too much. Any critique of these guys is always met with an ocean of self-pity and certitude that nobody in the Church equals their awesome holines and piety.
As a trad reader of RC, I didn’t read it that way. I was genuinely impressed and touched by his act of reaching out to us. I was very much put at ease when Pope Francis assured Castrillon Hoyos (and all trads) that he only intervened in the FFI because of specific issues in that order and that no more interventions are coming, and that he has nothing against the TLM.
I wonder what would happen if the Holy Father gave bishop Fellay a call….
You think we at Rorate consider ourselves holy and pious? Oh, that would be news to us! God love you!
Not sure you ever really read our blog, but we reported the good and the not so good with Benedict. Want proof? Read our archives.
Oh.. I’ll amend my statement. You whined that Benedict wasn’t accomodating enough to the anti-Semites in the SSPX. Perhaps, Benedict, especially after getting burned by the “Bishop” Williamson incident, wanted them to renounce their intolerance before he permitted them to re-enter the Church.
And sadly I’ve been to your site when the AP linked to it over the “horror” of Francis’ washing ladies’ toes. I’d prefer never to go back there.
I don’t blame you. We were horrified by the photo as well! Sorry to show you him doing that.
Oh… That was called sarcasm. I thought Francis’ actions were lovely and pastoral. It is the rest of the content on your site that disturbed me with its narrow mindedness.
The Catholic Church has had a “run” of good to great Popes for the past couple of centuries or more and Pope Francis seems on his way to becoming one of the great ones. This gift is just the grace of God; rank-and-file Catholics have done little to nothing to deserve it. So I think we should follow Pope Francis’s excellent example by not conducting vendettas against his critics on his behalf. Try to be as Christian as he is, not more Catholic than he is. Kirt Higdon
Does that include the traditionalists? Because they would be more than happy to tar and feather a journalist they disagreed with and will continue to do so.
Quit while you’re ahead, Illinidiva.
Good example for all.
I agree with Stu and Paul. I’m perfectly willing to engage the critics of Pope Francis and/or the Church in a respectful and charitable way, whether these critics be traditionalists, liberals or whatever else. If there are any persons or groups I can’t engage charitably because they make me too angry, it’s better if I just don’t try to dialogue with them at all and just pray for them. And it is completely irrelevant what Rorate Caeli does; they don’t set the standard. Kirt Higdon
Shouldn’t all Christians be the standard? After all, it isn’t I who live, but Christ lives in me.
We don’t set the standard, but we are darn good barometers! We report when a prelate does good, and not so good. No need to praise us now, or shoot us, the messenger, when you don’t like the message.
this article shows an uncharitable side to Francis that is sort of disturbing to me, regardless or not if he is right, doesn’t sound like things a pope should say.
“What does Palin know about leadership?” Francis wondered. “This is a woman who couldn’t even make it through one term as governor of Alaska before resigning, and who, let’s be honest, was probably the worst vice presidential nominee in American history.” – See more at: http://www.newslo.com/pope/#sthash.YnTbBeJK.dpuf
Admittedly poor, but satire nonetheless.
Yeah, it is a news satire website. The pope never said any such thing. Gotta read the fine print – or in this case, the “About Us” page for the website:
“JUST ENOUGH NEWS…Newslo is the first hybrid News/Satire platform on the web. Readers come to us for a unique brand of entertainment and information that is enhanced by features like our fact-button, which allows readers to find what is fact and what is satire.”
If you press the “Show Facts” button below the article, it highlights what parts of the article are true. The alleged quote from the pope is not highlighted.
EDIT: Well, parts of the phony quotes are highlighted, but only because they allegedly contain true information about Buchanan or Palin, at least according to the writer of the article (I haven’t fact checked that). The rest of the quotes are not highlighted so the quotes as a whole were fabricated by the satirist, not spoken by the Holy Father.
The Pope is indeed a class act from all i can tell.
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