Time Wasted on the Medjugorje Fraud…

…is time taken from something God wants you to actually spend time on.  A reader who realized this writes:

I just read your blog about Spirit Daily/Medjugorje.  I agree w/you re:  Medj. even though my reversion back to Holy Mother Church came about due to Perpetual Adoration and reading a book on Medj. in the chapel.  But as you say, I believe it’s God’s graces through the Sacraments and Adoration that helped me.  I followed it for some years, but started losing my zeal for listening to the monthly messages at some point.  I had no idea about Fr. Jozo or the other priest scandals.  But it did strike me as funny how none of the visionaries went into the priesthood or religious life.  And then one of them married a beauty queen.  It started to go down hill for me – it felt confusing to feel this way given that I thought it helped me in my reversion back to all the Sacraments in the first place.

But with all you’ve written, I’m totally convinced that we should stay away from it.  Now my other big concern is that people are following these messages and losing the message of Fatima.  In July, I was privileged to be able to attend the Catechetical Institute at Our Lady of Peace Retreat House in Beaverton, OR.  Fr. Andrew Apostoli was one of the teachers this year.  One of his talks was on Fatima for today.  It was filled with pertinent facts about this church-approved apparition and our ability as lay people to help bring about Our Lady’s Triumph of the Immaculate Heart, by participating the the Five First Saturday Devotions.

I realize not all are called to this Devotion or the Rosary – but if people are called by God to be doing this and are instead distracted by following Medj. they will be ignoring what Our Lady asked of us.  I hope you don’t find this annoying or anything as some folks who have devotions to particular apparitions can be – it’s just meant to be informative and to also prove your point that Medj. can be a dangerous thing even for those who think they are doing right by following those apparitions.  Medj. is a distraction and distractions are not good.

Below is the text of the Letter I sent out informing people of what Fr. Apostoli asked of us to do along with a link to a talk he gave on Fatima for Today I found on youtube that was similar to the talk I heard him give.

By the way, I asked Fr. Apostoli his opinion on Medj. and he was not favorable about it – thousands of messages that go on and on.  He also thought it could be a distraction from the simple message of Our Lady of Fatima.  I’d love to know your opinion on my thoughts on this Marc – let me know what you think.  Thanks.

God bless you. Please pray for my family – we have 3 teenage sons, our youngest has Down Syndrome.  We’re struggling a lot right now with family issues – thanks for your prayers.  Blessed Christmas and New Year!

Hello Dear Friends In Christ:  Peace be with you.  I was blessed to be able to see Fr. Andrew Apostoli of EWTN (vice-postulator for the cause of canonization of Bishop Fulton J. Sheen and Priest of the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal)  give this talk (Link:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96rJGbqYDGQ) live at Our Lady of Peace Retreat House in Beaverton this past July.  The information he spoke of was both startling and convicting regarding the church-approved apparitions of Fatima.  He gives historic information on the time lines about the several attempts of different Popes to make the consecration of Russia in union with all the Bishops of the world and also little known information pertaining to the 3rd secret of Fatima.  The definitive consecration was made by Pope John Paul II on March 25th 1984 and was said to be accepted by Heaven by Sr. Lucia dos Santos, one of the original seers.

The question was put to Sr. Lucia how will we know that Heaven accepted this consecration and she simply said to look to the East.  The Berlin Wall was taken down in 1989 – 5 years after the consecration.  Recently, Putin outlawed gay marriage and there has been a revitalization of the Christian faith happening in Russia.  From 1985 until 2011 there has been an increase in churches in Russia of 350%!  Their monasteries are full up and their numbers are growing.

Why hasn’t the full Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary happened yet if the consecration made by Bl. John Paul II was valid?  I asked Fr. Apostoli about this and he said that people are not doing what Our Lady asked for in SUFFICIENT NUMBERS - making the Five First Saturdays Devotion.  Sr. Lucia said that this is the MOST NEGLECTED PART OF THE MESSAGE OF FATIMA - this is why the conversions are taking so long to happen.  Father Apostoli made the plea that if enough Catholics were doing what Our Lady asked, he thinks that we can experience the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary by the 100th year anniversary of the the apparitions at Fatima-the year 2017.  Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI expressed this as his hope as well – he said, “Learn the message of Fatima, Live the message of Fatima and Spread the message of Fatima,” on May 13, 2010 when he was visiting Fatima on the 10th anniversary of the Beatification Jacinta and Francisco Marto.  The Prophetic message of Fatima is for our times.  The year 2017 is only 4 years off.  Time is short and the hour is late.  That it why it is so vital that as many of us as possible do what Our Lady asks of us especially the Five First Saturdays Devotion.  (We can do the Five First Saturdays several times over, not just once).

It is a sacrifice and not easy to fulfill the Five First Saturdays Devotion.  It is a simple and beautiful solution to world peace, yet it is not effortless to accomplish.  But I believe that is precisely why it will bear such GREAT FRUIT - the Triumph of Mary’s Immaculate Heart!   With Our Lady’s help, we can do it.

Please watch the very important and informative talk (link above) by Fr. Apostoli in part or all and consider making the Five First Saturdays in order to help hasten the coming of the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary since the consecration of Russia has indeed been fulfilled by Bl. John Paul II.  We as the lay people need to do our part for the era of Christ’s Peace to reign in our hearts and in our world.

Let us fulfill Our Blessed Mother’s requests by honoring the First Five Saturdays, and praying a daily rosary for world peace, in order to experience FULL triumph of the prayers of her Immaculate Heart for peace in our world.  For those of you who are not familiar with Her requests, they are:

*Pray the rosary daily for world peace.  Our Blessed Mother taught us to pray at the end of each mystery; “O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell.  Lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of thy mercy.”

*The Holy Father must consecrate Russia to her Immaculate Heart.  (This has been fulfilled in 1984 by Pope JP II);

*REPARATION against the sins and blasphemies committed against Mary’s Immaculate Heart by honoring five first consecutive Saturdays of the month by doing the following on those days;

*Receive Holy Communion, (a communion service or 5:30 pm Mass is acceptable if no other Mass is available).

*Go to confession 8 days before or after,

*Pray a rosary with the intention of making reparation for the wounds and blasphemies against the Immaculate Heart of Mary, (i.e. those who speak or think ill of the mother of God and/or getting others to do so),

*Meditate upon a mystery or mysteries of the rosary keeping Mary company for 15 minutes.

Our Blessed Mother also promises to assist at the hour of our death, with her prayers for God’s many graces,  those who have fulfilled the Five First Saturdays devotion.

PLEASE pass this on to anyone you wish.  Father Apostoli encouraged us to get this message out to our parishes, friends, etc.  He said the conversion of the world needs it and Our Lady said when enough people do the Five First Saturdays, then her Triumph will come.  Our Lady is asking us as her loyal sons and daughters to do this.  Thank you and may God bless you for your efforts. 

Fr. Apostoli has researched and written a recent book for Ignatius Press, titled, Fatima for Today, an Urgent Message of Marian Hope.

The following links may be helpful:

*For help fulfilling the first five Saturdays of the month request to “meditate” upon a mystery of the rosary for 15 minutes, or, if you wish to learn how to pray the rosary:  (There are other similar websites, such as EWTN’s website or the Rosary Confraternity’s website.)  http://www.how-to-pray-the-rosary-everyday.com/  (Scroll down, and you will find a section titled; “Catholic Mysteries of the Rosary” with beautiful visuals and scripture verses.)

*For those who wish to pray a perpetual rosary along with others on the internet:

http://comepraytherosary.org

  • Julian Barkin

    Well if this is the problem here: “people are not doing what Our Lady asked for in SUFFICIENT NUMBERS – making the Five First Saturdays Devotion”, then our Lady will be sadly disappointed. Most parishes DO NOT accommodate the first Saturdays at all, and I’d say only 1/2-2/3 in any given diocese will do the First Fridays even, with some doing it incorrectly with confession and adoration after Mass, and in the daytime for the seniors vs. the rest of the parish who works/has school during the day. Most pastors/priests don’t even care about such things and are too busy chugging along with the “spirit of Vatican II,” or basic pastoral duties which are too much between themselves, and power-hungry liberal laity eating their time. I am honestly not expecting much in the future, but rather the opposite to come about.

    • Tim

      Medjugorje a waste of time? Then I suppose my conversion through Medjugorje, the conversion of tens of thousands of others, and hundreds of vocations and healings have all been a waste of time. Mark, get off your soapbox on this and stop perpetuating falsehoods and rumours on Medjugorje. It’s fine for you and your followers to not believe but leave the judgement to the Vatican Commision. They will make the right decision for the Church at large.

      • chezami

        Nope. The grace of conversion can be give anywhere, even in Auschwitz. That doesn’t makie Auschwitz a thing blessed by God. God writes straight with crooked lines and your sincere desire to know God–not the fraud of Medjugorje–is what opened you to the work of the Holy Spirit. Don’t make this fraud the condition of your faith in Jesus. You do well to trust in him. It is a mistake to trust in the “seers” thoug.

  • Marthe Lépine

    To Julian:

    I am wondering: Do you mean that your parish – or most parishes in your
    area – does not have a mass on Saturdays, even at 5:30 (or 4:30 in my
    parish)? I assumed it was a common practice. We are lucky where I live,
    since our parish has 24hr adoration every first week-end, so there is no
    problem (other than my lazyness). If you have a 5:30 mass, it’s all you
    need. It does not have to be something organized or specially promoted
    by your parish; you can do the other requirements of the 1st 5 Saturdays
    on your own. Of course, I do not know your particular circumstances,
    but am only making assumptions.

    • Julian Barkin

      What I mean is that there is not special consideration given to the practice, therefore, promotion of a) Saturday Masses specifically devoted to the devotion with meditated Rosary vs. First Friday Masses + Eucharistic Adoration devoted to FF devotion, nevermind b) promotion of the devotion period. Yes you could definitely do it in conjunction with the Saturday vigil if that’s all you have, but most people don’t know about this devotion to do it on their own. It’d be better if there was specific Masses with meditated Rosary publically to do this.

  • Käthe

    Mark, you’re a former Protestant, help me out. When did messages like this start making sense to you? Because they still sound like a chain letter message on Facebook to me. Don’t shoot me, just give me some insight, please.

    • guest

      I’m a cradle Catholic who has remained a practicing Catholic throughout life, and I share your reaction to these missives. The Catholic church is very diverse and allows for a great variety of devotions. I would never belittle those who feel called to devotion to Fatima, but this doesn’t resonate with me. It seems superstitious to say that if we do A, B and C we can influence God to restore world peace.

      • Käthe

        Thank you, Guest. Yes, superstitious, and sorry I have to say, almost arrogantly controlling. As though we could manipulate God by following a series of steps like a WikiHow article on fixing your faucet. We are told, after all, that we will not know the day or the hour. It’s not the devotions themselves that upset me, but the idea that there is this list of guarantees attached, and the idea that you should do them to make something happen, rather than to simply honor God and grow in faith.

  • Martin

    Hi Mark, other than you i await each message from the Gospa with joy and happiness. If they are very similar one mustn’t wonder. Who sincerely follows Her call to prayer, conversion, surrender and love? Hardhearted people must be reminded again and again the same thing. As She said two days back, if you are not pure and humble your heart cannot open to Love and you can not give Light to people in Darkness. First establish God in your heart, then only you are able to spread the Light of God around you.

    • chezami

      Mary said nothing at Medjugorje two days ago because she is not appearing ther and the “visionaries” are frauds. God was establised in my heart at my baptism and remains there by the grace of the sacraments. Listening to the two local ordinaries and obeying holy Church is how to grow in holiness, not chasing after frauds.

  • Patrick7Gormley

    Regarding the Vatican banning
    attendance at meetings that say the Medjugorje visions are real, Nov, 2013

    The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, November 1996

    Regarding the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, the
    Congregation states:

    The Interpretation given by some individuals to a Decision approved by Paul VI
    on 14 October 1966 and promulgated on 15 November of that year, in virtue of
    which writings and messages resulting from alleged revelations could be freely
    circulated in the Church, is absolutely groundless. This decision actually
    referred to the “abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books” and determined that
    — after the relevant censures were lifted — the moral obligation still
    remained of not circulating or reading those writings which endanger faith and
    morals. It should be recalled however that with regard to the circulation of
    texts of alleged private revelations, canon 623 #1 of the current Code remains
    in force: “the Pastors of the Church have the … right to demand that writings to
    be published by the Christian faithful which touch upon faith or morals be
    submitted to their judgment”.

    Alleged supernatural revelations and writings concerning them are submitted in
    first instance to the judgment of the diocesan Bishop, and, in particular cases,
    to the judgment of the Episcopal Conference and the Congregation for the
    Doctrine of the Faith.

    I would like to understand how an apparition from God encourages messages to be given out without being checked by legitimate authority? I have found nothing at all from Medjugorje supporters to help me. I understand why so many worry that supporters are disobedient to the Church.

    • Julian Barkin

      Last I heard or saw online Patrick, the Vatican is still investigating. However, the trajectory doesn’t look good. In the last couple of Months, Pope Francis gave something in one of his daily homilies about Mary not being like a postmaster delivering messages.
      Like you say in your paragraph “Alleged …. CDF”, that has likely already been done by the local bishop in that area or his former chair when this first started years ago. But like all major things in the Church, the wheels grind slowly.


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