Confronted

It was using show tunes for hymns that gave you away.

Peace,
Milton

This cartoon could bring about such great conversation between many different points of view. As a lesbian, I have experienced this from both ends.. literally.

How funny that they are saying you “allowed”.. it still amazes me that someone could be turned away from a church…. but it happens for many reasons.

Nice reference post Lor, I hadn’t read that one.

I liked this comic Dave. I wonder if the move of solidarity is to turn and ask those congregants what they would do if it was me?

Yeah I liked this one too – shows the biased attitude the church can embrace sometimes to keep the perceived undesirables out.

i’m a bit confused. when we talk about “embracing all” of who people are or acceptance, what exactly are we talking about? are we talking about a homosexual who is unrepentant and see’s absolutely nothing wrong with the fact that they are actively pursing a homosexual lifestyle and having sex with a person of the same sex? or are we talking about welcoming in people who can recognize and are repentant of the sin that is a part of their lives and are working out self-control when it comes to lust etc?

i realize this is a touchy subject and i’m in no way meaning to sound arrogant and come across as a bigot. i’m just curious as to what we mean when we say we need to accept homosexuals.

http://politicsofthecross.blogspot.com/2007/06/anglican-troubles-what-is-at-stake.html
this is a GREAT article writen by an old prof of mine about homosexuality and the power of the gospel.

the fact of the matter is this. was jesus accepting of people who were in NEED of his grace? yes. but was he accepting of the SIN that was their very NEED for grace? no. Jesus accepts all who come to him and promises to leave NONE *unchanged*.

so the next question is (obviously), is homosexuality sin? i think according to scripture (which is pretty much the standard we must use) the answer is yes. not because God is out to get homosexuals, but rather, because sexuality has gone astray from God’s ideal sexuality and a very real part of this is homosexuality (along with sleeping around, rape, lust etc etc etc).

peace.

JT

well thanks for the quick response! a newmarket fella huh? nice! anyways, i agree with what you’re saying. and i realize that *we* will be judged based on how we love others. (after commenting on your post i was browsing joni’s blog which lead me to the gay christians site. after reading through there a distinction that i always felt was there was illuminated for me. i now better understand the “side a” and “side b” and the difference between being gay and homosexual behaviour. thanks joni!) however…actually forget what i was going to say.

i’m pretty sure i hear you on this. and i just pray that God would continue to change me so that i am known by him and teach me to trust him with the rest.

thanks so much david, i’m glad that i can learn from my brother!

peace.