This cartoon is also my submission to Illustration Friday’s “contained”.
The breaking of the will – submission – how much is safe?
It (the will) needs to be totally broken. (killed off)
The pastor doesn’t do it (although he or she is the clay vessel), but rather God’s law does it, when it is preached in order to expose and to accuse and to condemn.
The law will do it’s job. God wants a clean canvas. Then His gospel can go to work and make out of the person what He wills.
…more total depravity Steve….wdn’t it be more reasonable to think that God might create the hunger,but stops at the force-feeding?
That’s how I raise my kids too. I wake them up in the morning by beating in their faces, just to remind them who’s boss. Then I hug and kiss them and serve them breakfast to let them know that I love them anyway.
I, for one, am glad God force feeds us. We wouldn’t want to partake of our own.
He truly is the Good Shepherd who brings us home as we continually wander off.
I know we disagree on this aspect of the Christian faith, Faithlessinfatima…that’s ok. (I’m just throwing in my 2 cents) (and I don’t mind expounding, either..but it is really ok that we don’t see it the same)
I think I’ve said it here a couple of times before…none of us is saved by our “good doctrine”.
I don’t believe in the ‘total depravity’ thing.
I leave that for the Calvinists.
Lutherans believe that we have much to offer to our fellow man. We just don’t have anything that God desires from us (for His sake)…other than our sin.
Steve…I’m curious,is there anything Lutheran you don’t believe…as well,are there other doctrines that you wish the Lutheran’s believed?
I have studied many other theologies and the theology of the cross that Luther took directly from Paul pretty much (in my mind) makes thebest sense of the entire biblical narrative.
Of course, Lutheranism isn’t a monolith and I do not agree with that branch of Lutheranism that believes in the so-called “third use of the law” (a guide on how to live) I believe in only two uses. The civil use…to keep us in check and that we might get along together; and the theological use to accuse use, expose us, and drive us to Christ.
The main thing that I love about Lutheran theology is the freedom. The freedom of the Christian to live without worrying about his performance towards his justification and salavation and the freedom of God to be God.
Steve…by Law,you mean Mosaic or Moral?
That’s how I raise my kids too. I wake them up in the morning by beating in their faces, just to remind them who’s boss(David)
You sure about that?? Last picture I saw of you, it looked like they laid the beating on you. 😉
By law I mean every demand that existence places upon us.
To be a good father, mother, son, daughter, employee, citizen, boss, etc.
The 10 commandments , yes, but everything else as well.
When Jesus told us to “be perfect as our Father in Heaven is perfect.” He was hitting us with the full force of the law which encompases everything. (I believe)
Steve…..hopefully,not Exodus 34:20…I mean,I’ve eaten veal,but never have been tempted to cook a kid in it’s mother’s milk 😉
How can we believe that we are “accused” when the Bible says we are no more under condemnation, and surely any reading of the New Testament and covenant shows we are under grace and not under the law? What is this about? It’s not Jesus’, thats for sure. I have no idea what “Lurtheranism” is, we don’t seem to have it here in the UK, praise the Lord.
I didn’t think you had a whole lot of anything of substance over there any more.
I hear that the vacuum that the lack of Christianity has created is being filled nicely by Islam. (It’s not too much better on this side of the pond)
In this life, Kim, we are still under law. Try robbing a bank and see if I am not right. Also, since we continue to wander away from Christ, the law brings us to repentance and then we are raised anew in Christ. That is the life of the Christian…repentance and forgiveness.
You are totally correct Kim, we are not under the law for our righteousness, but live in the freedom that Christ has won. But as children of God, we want to do what God wills, and since we can’t…we repent.
Thanks be to God that we do not have to do that stuff anymore!
“I didn’t think you had a whole lot of anything of substance over there any more.” 😯
I do my best to walk closely with Jesus, to offer him my life, heart, worship, work, because I love him. I love him because he first loved me. When I fail, and sin, I run to him in repentance, asking for cleansing and forgiveness, because I don’t want to be separated from him. Because I love him. His spirit convicts me of those sins when I am not aware enough of them myself.
Yes I am under the physical law of the land. But its the fact that I love Jesus which keeps me from robbing a bank. The keeping of law is not a motivation, apart from loving God and my neighbour, in which is contained all the law and the prophets.
The law cannot produce love. Grace, in Jesus, trumps the law.