Jesus held hostage

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“Jesus Held Hostage” by nakedpastor David Hayward

There is no center. There is no boundary. No one owns him. No one is without him. He is not cornered or kept. He is not bound or bottled. He can’t be released or freed for he already is.

Who do these men have hostage? A figment of their imagination. They are safely within the walls of their church with their theological myopia, their demands falling on deaf ears, and their cookies.


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  • amazonfeet

    Don’t forget the coffee and OJ…. 😉 Just because folks think they have their theological ducks in a proper row, they feel they can dictate terms to everyone else…great ‘toon!

  • It’s happening all over the place.

    “Jesus loves me, this I know..for the Bible tells me so.”

  • urpilgrim

    This was funny until I followed your link to the Lasting Supper and found out I had to give $7.00/month just to be part of the group. What’s up with that?

  • Hi urpilgrim. Thanks for your question.
    It is a requirement for 2 reasons:
    1. Safety: it provides a gateway, inexpensive but effective, to ensure that those who join are serious about abiding by the values of the community. It really does work in providing a way to help keep the community safe.
    2. Value for value: there are people who are working around the clock to create, develop and maintain the site and make it a valuable resource to its members. They need to eat.
    Simple as that.

  • Kris

    That is a really good metaphor for what Fundamentalists are doing. By withholding their love for those who are different from them, they are holding Jesus hostage.

  • urpilgrim

    WOW! I never thought that I would hear something like this from you. This is not what I expected from the guy who’s editorial cartoons I have followed for over a year now.
    1. Safety? Who are you “protecting ” us from? This statement is what I would hear at a private golf club, not a Christian forum. Your protecting yourself only from all those below a certain income level.
    2. Value for value? “people are working around the clock”, really? Ever hear of “tentmaking”? I am part of several other forums and on-line spiritual communities that provide a great sevice to all at no charge. There are many ways to help cover the costs of the servers without having to put a closed door right up front. Your “over 30 years professional pastoral experience” still shows in your view of making your living off of the things of the Lord. Trust Your heavenly Father and just put a “donate” button on your page.

    Boy! You just dumped cold water over this follower. Think about it.

    Grace and peace

  • grace and peace to you too 🙂

  • by the way urpilgrim… just to clarify… TLS is not a “christian forum”. it is a diverse group of christians, ex-christians, agnostics, atheists, buddhists, you name it. TLS is obviously not for you, but that’s okay. you’ve found other groups that meet your needs. awesome!

  • Caryn LeMur


    You and I perhaps have adopted very different traditions. So, I am not certain that what I will say to you may matter.

    My adopted tradition is to be ‘Bible-based’, that is, Sola Scriptura as well as reasoning through and back to the Bible. So, may I offer that an instructor-pastor, an administrative-pastor, an apostle, surely deserve to receive wages. And the Bible demonstrates that ‘receiving wages’ is the higher path, and ‘tent-making’ is the lower path – though neither path appears to be sin on the part of the employed. And, given the tone of the scriptures, the lower path of tent-making may be due to sin of the ‘congregation’.

    Per the New Testament scriptures, wages can be in the form of consistent wages (such as a soldier receives), seasonal commodities/wages (such as a farmer receives), a portion of tithes collected by a greater agency (such as per the Law of Moses for those that serve at the Temple), and/or by gleaning (such as an ox does during treading). Living on free-will offerings (such as Jesus did during his earthly ministry) is acutally discouraged by Christ for His followers in Luke 22:35-37.

    Thus, I quickly conclude that David is within his rights to glean $7 a person. However, I cannot so quickly see your argument that “tent-making” is a better path for David to walk upon… the scriptures speak strongly otherwise. And the ‘free will’ offering that you advocate [a donation button] tends to move against the teachings of Jesus [I admit that it is a gray issue… but I have difficulty with going against Jesus command to ‘provide your own purse’ in Luke 22].

    Consider the following:

    Paul writes, “I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you” [II Cor 11]. Notice the word “robbed”, it is negative in tone – thus Paul selected a ‘lower path’ for his income support. From this passage, it appears that Paul drew wages from other churches during some length of time in order to serve the Corinthian believers. The proper path was to receive support from those believers in Corinth.

    Paul writes, “Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor” [Gal 6]. Thus, it is a command (or strong guidance) for the receivers/instructed to share wages or commodities with the giver/teacher. “Tent-making” is thus again, a lower path (it is not sin, but again, we are talking about the most correct path).

    “The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. For Scripture says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.” [I Tim 5] Again, commodities or wages are to be given, and even a higher wage is endorsed to ‘those that direct the affairs of the church well’.

    And, there is a lengthy argument offered by Paul in I Cor 9 concerning the rights of an apostle. He begins with the rehetorical question, “is it only I and Barnabas who lack the right to not work for a living?” He provides evidence based on human ‘laws’ [rights of a farmer] and the Law of Moses [for those that serve at the temple]. Paul concludes the argument with “In the same way, the Lord has commanded that those who preach the gospel should receive their living from the gospel”; and then offers that he [Paul] did not use that “right”, but personally selected to live by the exception [which we now call ‘tent making’] . Please notice the use of the terms “right” and “the Lord commanded”.

    Lastly, “Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered. He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. ” [Luke 22] Thus, to live solely from ‘free will offerings’ as Jesus did during His earthly ministry is incorrect. Trusting that the manna will be there each morning was a temporary measure until Joshua entered the promised land. Jesus lifestyle of free-will offering support was, by His own words, a similar temporary measure that is now strongly discouraged for us by our Lord’s commands. The backbone of income should therefore never be only free-will offerings, unless it is a temporary measure.

    As somone that has always served our Lord within ‘tent making’ and never received a ‘wage’ to date from the believers that I instructed, I hear you. Also, our Lord has supplied income for my spouse and I that is very good income – thus, we have few needs that our own income cannot meet. However, the scripture teaches that we tent-makers walked the lower path. The most appropriate path is not tent-making, nor solely free-will offerings.

    We therefore must not condemn David because he has the faith to walk the higher path.

    Much love in Christ always and unconditionally; Caryn

  • tom sellier

    Wow. David is a money changer. Am I surprised? No. And Kris, sounds to me like you and your mentor David are the ones who have a problem with love LOL. And don’t tell me, every sermon is about how bad them dang fundamentalists are. Oh my.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    You really should just chill with the ad hominems.