from cross to comfort

from cross to comfort cartoon by nakedpastor david hayward
“From Cross to Comfort” (drawing by nakedpastor David Hayward)

Apparently loving everybody and having a universal compassion is risky business. People die over it.

It seems we have a choice: love some and enjoy a compromised security. Or love everybody and live on the absolute edge.

I enjoy communities that experiment with a global kind of love.


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  • Hey David.

    From your own perspective, what does the world “love” mean?

    And could we manage to love everyone?

    I try to do so but I fall very short of the ultimate goal 🙂

    Friendly greetings from Europe.

    Lothars Sohn – Lothar’s son

  • klhayes

    Sad but an accurate depiction of what ails the church and why so many of us are turned off by it.

  • Duane

    K… you love those people in those “ailing churches”? Or do they simply turn you off ? Do you reach out to them with your love? What was the last thing you did out of “love” for someone who regularly attends church? I would love to know your number one reason ….in detail….what about the church turns you off.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    There is compassion, but your attacks are not welcome here.

  • No, it’s not. And it’s inappropriate behavior. i would say it’s also a form of emotionally abusive behavior. That’s why I say it should not be welcome here. But it’s not my blog, and I don’t make those decisions. This issue here is not one of what you believe (literalism), but how you are treating others (condemnation).

  • I know some Christians that think the decision about who goes where is actually up to God and that God is not limited or constrained by what some people 2000 years ago happened to write down on paper or what more recent people read into those words. It seems that you view God as some kind of “cosmic vending machine” where you can get certain outcomes (like going to heaven) by pulling certain levers (like trusting Christ). It seems to me that you are worshiping a machine.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    I’d give Tom no heed, Irreverance, as he is most certainly a troll wishing to bait and feels this absolute need to be an asshole to those who don’t mesh with his views.

    Besides, if he bothered to point out my being an atheist and said that i was such because i hated God, he’d walk right into the trap that is the Paradox of the Liar.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    How about this – Because of your intentionally trying to deride and demean rather than contribute to a discussion, David might exercise the right to ban you from discussion?

    See “Stop being an asshole.”

  • Tom Estes

    With respect, it doesn’t matter what anyone says, just what the Bible says. Now, you have the right to trivialize that if you want by calling God a machine, but I don’t.

    God sent His Son to die for our sins. We repent and trust Him and we go to Heaven. If we don’t, we go to Hell. This is true because of God’s Word, and it’s not hateful to point this out.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Giving of self for the betterment of others would be one REALLY good definition, if still not 100% accurate.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    With respect not being granted because you offer no one here any, I suggest you actually get to the point instead of skirting. What you have offered here is anything BUT on the topic.

  • I’m not calling God a machine. I’m saying that you actually view God as a machine. You are the one.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    This conversation needs a deux ex machina.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    That’s the absolutely CRAPPY thing about being selfless – you can utterly kill off the self by giving everything, in order to allow others to have it better or to share in the joy.

  • Tom Estes

    Here’s how warped you are. I don’t call names, but ask questions that you can’t answer, so I’m hateful and should be banned. You call me an @#$hole, and you’re respectful.

  • Tom Estes

    I don’t see how expecting God to do what He says He’ll do in His Word is tantamount to believing God is a machine.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    You say that I am damned and that pantheists go to hell. I offer no respect to those who give none, so you get jack shit.

  • Not all believe the clouds parted and a booming voice spoke certain words and lowly scribes faithfully wrote those words down verbatim 2000 years ago.

  • Tom Estes

    I know there are people who don’t believe the Bible, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    @Tom Estes – How about you actually get on the topic? Because your continuing to avoid the actual message just proves that you’d rather be a satanist in the original sense (adversarial for the sake of being adversarial).

  • klhayes

    Religion is a corporate and political structure bent on destroying things that help the most vulnerable in society with no guarantee of filling the void.They claim they can do it better, but since you cannot make people be charitable and so many megachurches are focused on the bottom line, I don’t see how this is going to pain out.

    I don’t care if people regularly attend church and I don’t know who does and doesn’t. It’s not the first question I ask. Everyone I encounter is treated with respect and love. I work with the elderly and imagine that many of them still attend church. I respect them and enjoy watching how happy they are as they live out their last years.

  • Al Cruise

    Tom is a right wing fundamentalist, in Jesus’s time they were called Pharisees, his responses are the only kind of fruit a tree like him can bear. By their fruit you will know them. I’ve worked in street ministry for 40 years and have seen the damage caused by people like him. I have also seen people healed from that damage by true love and compassion coming from people like klhayes. Don’t be discouraged by comments from people like him, the darker they are, the brighter your light can shine.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    See the Catholic Church under Pope Benedict XVI if you want an ailing church

  • Livin

    Love,compassion and understanding are what is needed today. No one is better than anyone else,we are all just dirt. The New Testament gives us a path to get closer to God. Being chaste,married one time and that is it, or if divorced: being single chaste and serving others, comabting evil with good, sharing what we have with our neighbors without wanting anything in return. This is the way to follow Christ.

  • Cecilia Davidson

    Livin, I’m going to try and figure what you mean here, in the context of the commentary. Sure, being loving and compassionate are both necessary qualities, but what’s being made a little clear, if not darkly, is that giving of one self leaves you vulnerable to suffering and pain.
    To sit comfortably and do nothing can give you comfort for the time but does nothing to alleviate world suck (to borrow a phrase).
    To give everything you can to help ease the suffering of others is noble but comes at the cost of your own comfort and self.

    Jesus said that, in order to follow him, to combat evil with good and serve others, quoting you, we must take up our own crosses. This can be taken literally or figuratively. We must be willing to suffer.

  • Gary

    I know there are people who believe the bible, but that doesn’t mean it’s true.

  • Tom Estes

    I have never claimed that the Bible was true because I believe it.

  • Gary

    The way you totally miss the point is…cute.