sacred sermons and libidinous thoughts

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I know for a fact this happens because, um, because, uh… somebody told me.

Those who pretend to be immune from sexual thoughts are… well… they’re not having fun!

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  • Just imagine the sexual thoughts going through the minds of those in the congregation. Any time one is told not to think of something, one can’t help but to think of it. If you are told really really really not to think of it, then you tend to really really really think about it a lot. Funny how that works.

  • Pat68

    He’s dreaming of bacon? LOL, just kidding. Although when I first looked at this, that’s what it looked like to me. Still lust either way. 😀

  • Gary

    LMAO – Totally love this.

    I have learned to embrace my “libidinous” thoughts and have fun with them.

  • Matthew makes Jesus say “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” ( 5:28)

    So, I could see people taking the message of David’s cartoon several ways. Some may see it as saying many pastors are hypocrites, but I think this passage from Matthew just illustrates again how wrong many of Jesus’ supposed teachings are — and how people have a false idealized Jesus in their heads.

    Thinking something is NOT the same as doing it. Jesus was wrong.

    Later, Matthew has Jesus being an even harsher good pious Jew as he refers to Leviticus commands (20:9):

    Matthew 15: 4

    For God said, ‘Honor your father and mother’ and ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.” (NIV)

    So it seems Jesus, before tampering by Paulites, wanted a strict law — stricter than the one that existed. He was a Jewish reformer. He wanted us all to be ascetics with no bad thoughts.

    Jesus was wrong. Pastors and everyone else should be able to have libidinous thoughts but we should indeed call those who are hypocrites on this issue. That is the message I hear from David who is not the least bit afraid of such thoughts which he compartmentalizes well into art!

  • Roshan Easo

    Amen. Preach it brother! Thank God for eternal security!

  • Roshan Easo

    Do you know why so many believers have
    no peace in their relationship with God? They would tell you it is
    because God is angry with them and their sin, but the real reason is
    they are ignorant of him and his righteousness. In the kingdom, peace
    always follows righteousness. If you are more conscious of your sin than
    his righteousness, you will never enjoy peace with God.

    The church has an unhealthy obsession
    with sin. We spend our lives watching out for sin, resisting sin,
    fighting sin, hiding sin, running from sin, owning up to sin, talking
    about sin, turning from sin, and hopefully, overcoming sin. With so much
    emphasis on sin, guilt, and shame, is it any wonder so many of us don’t
    feel righteous? We need the ministry of the Holy Spirit now more than

    Paul Ellis

    The Gospel in Ten Words, KingsPress, 2012, 95-6. (

  • klhayes

    In Catholic “speak”, there is a term for hot priest – Father What a

    Waste LOL! Yes, sexual thoughts are going on all the time everywhere.

  • Brigitte Mueller

    “But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” — just simply means we are all the same. The Pharisees and any holier-than-thou, or any even chaste wife and mother in life-long relationship…you name it… every pastor, even (!), has these thoughts. When I am with people or with my husband with people, I don’t want to be looked at, or him looking at everything that walks by, as a sex object. It’s not right. But the point is, we all do it, so we don’t need to puff ourselves up with any false self-righteousness. That is the entire point. Hence we are all in the same need of forgiveness and Savior. And we have it and Him. Which does not mean we are off the hook and need not struggle to keep ourselves in line.

  • maryparks

    Actually, just as an FYI, there *are* those who are immune (or almost) immune to sexual thoughts… we’re called asexuals.

  • Carol

    Repression always leads to obsession, besides it’s not our spontaneous thoughts that compromise our character, it’s what we chose to do with them.

    Choosing which fantasies to realize and which ones to keep to ourselves is the essence of ethics.

    Choosing to actualize fantasies that are harmful to oneself and/or others is immoral.

    Not choosing, but impulsively actualizing fantasies is amoral.

    Most destructive people are amoral, not immoral and need a wake-up call, not a guilt-trip to become more responsible in their relationships.

    IMO, most formal religion does not distinguish between guilt and irresponsibility. Guilt requires cognition/knowing and volition/malicious intent. Irresponsible behavior is immature, not evil, behavior. Perhaps this confusion is why so many christians believe more deeply in the mystery of iniquity than they do in the mystery of redemption.

    “What is done out of love always takes place beyond good and evil.” ~ Friedrich Nietzsche, Beyond Good and Evil, Aphorism 153

    “The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.” –Friedrich Nietzsche

    “I might believe in the Redeemer if His followers looked more Redeemed. “–Fredrick Nietzsche

    “The word “Christianity” is already a misunderstanding – in reality there has
    been only one Christian, and he died on the Cross”. –Friedrich Nietzsche

  • Robin Coots

    That’s what i thought at first. Bacon? huh? XD

  • Well I believe that having such thoughts isn’t sinful in and of itself IF:

    1) both the boy and the girl are single

    2) the boy also likes the girl as a person and doesn’t view her as a sexual object

    Actually, even people believing in Biblical inerrancy are utterly unable to explain me why lust is wrong in such a context.

    But if a man decides to lust after a married woman, it’s much more problematic…

    Lothars Sohn – Lothar’s son

  • mirele

    OK, just let me tell you where my head was at when I first saw the cartoon. I thought he was thinking bacon. You know, nice crispy, crunchy bacon. In my defense, I was looking at it on my phone. But now I can’t get the bacon out of my head.