Doug Pagitt Presentation on Christianity of Our Day

I hesitate to start a new post because the discussion on the McLaren post is still really good. But here goes…I stumbled accross a really good podcast the other day. It’s a very interesting take on John 14 and Acts 2. It’s nothing revolutionary, but in the past I’ve felt myself bristle at some of the ways Doug Pagitt presents material. I think I learned from this podcast that there are just some venues where he’s intentionally trying to be provocative and then there are venues where he’s just trying to simply teach some of what he’s learning. I think this podcast is the latter and it has helped me to be more understanding when the intent is the former.

One of the things I like about this podcast is how clearly he spells out the characteristics of Jewish thought v. Hellenistic thought. It is an important thing to understand which parts of the biblical witness are heavily influenced by Greek Philosophy. Not that we would then then throw those parts out, but perhaps we could understand them more clearly. I think his “sync” metaphor is a really good one. He’s pushing the immediacy of our need to find ways to translate the gospel into the dominant cultural/philosophical underpinnings of our day. I think this is where the emergent stuff is helping me the most. As I engage about these topics on a day to day basis, I’ve noticed there is a sense in most of their critics are still clinging to modernity in some form or fashion. This podcast helps me understand why they do and why I do as well, for this is one of my issues as well.

If you have some time, take a listen to this podcast. I’d love to get some takes on what he’s saying. I took like 5 pages of notes from the talk and I’m sure I’ll be stealing from his thoughts in the days to come.

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Tim Suttle is the senior pastor of RedemptionChurchkc.com. He is the author of several books including his most recent - Shrink: Faithful Ministry in a Church Growth Culture (Zondervan 2014), Public Jesus (The House Studio, 2012), & An Evangelical Social Gospel? (Cascade, 2011). Tim's work has been featured at The Huffington Post, The Washington Post, Sojourners, and other magazines and journals.

Tim is also the founder and front-man of the popular Christian band Satellite Soul, with whom he toured for nearly a decade. The band's most recent album is "Straight Back to Kansas." He helped to plant three thriving churches over the past 13 years and is the Senior Pastor of Redemption Church in Olathe, Kan. Tim's blog, Paperback Theology, is hosted at Patheos.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/18301816672851346285 Scott Stone

    Didn’t want to interupt the Obama discussion. How is the new SS album coming and have you listened to the Pagitt/DeWaay discussion? It was dubbed a “debate” but I thought Pagitt was much more conversational. I did enjoy it quite a bit.

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/10974397437648079481 Tim Suttle

    S.Soul. We’re almost done mixing. I’m going to try and shop it a little bit and see if anyone bites. If not we’ll just press a couple thousand and sell them over the internet. Lord knows we’ll actually recoup our money that way! Maybe we could even make enough to fund another project. That’s about all we’re hoping for is to keep getting to make records.

    I haven’t listened to that debate…where can I find it?

  • http://www.blogger.com/profile/18301816672851346285 Scott Stone

    http://web.mac.com/pagitt/iWeb/Doug%20Pagitt.Com/PagittCast/PagittCast.html

    Here is the link. If you press it on your own or not please put me down for a few copies. I’m looking forward to hearing it. I think the last I got from you guys was ‘More to Love You’


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