Beethoven’s Case Against Modern Feminism…

… Yesterday was the anniversary of Beethoven’s baptism so I’ve been listening to a few of my favorite compositions from his collected works. Did you know the Coriolan Overture makes a good case against modern feminism?

Briefly, the Coriolan Overture was written by Beethoven for Heinrichs Joseph Von Collin’s tragedy about the ancient 5th Century Roman general, Gaius Marcius Coriolanus. Beethoven’s Overture recounts the exact moment when Gaius is met with his mother pleading at his feet to relent his attack on Rome and withdraw his troops.

Nicolas Poussin, Coriolanus c. 1640-1655

When you listen to Beethoven’s Overture you can clearly hear the conflict between mother and son. The forceful pounding C minor theme of Coriolanus is aggressive and war-like while the E-flat major theme of his mother, Veturia, is tender and soothing. The two themes go back and forth in this musical drama; war and tenderness, advancement and withdrawal. This emotional torrent continues unabated until Coriolanus eventually relents to his mother’s pleas but he has advanced too far in his attack to turn back. To save his family he determines his doom and kills himself.

What does this have to do with modern feminism, you ask? It illustrates the need for separate gender identities, not an androgynous sexuality where man and women are identical in all but anatomical parts.

Women are the tender e-flat major themes in a blood lust world. Men are the strong C minor themes. Their strength can be used to wage wars or to be fierce protectors. Both aspects of humanity are essential. These characteristics compliment each other and provide a natural harmony between the genders. This harmony is brilliantly represented in the Coriolan Overture.

Sadly, women have changed. Women no longer value being women. Femininity is being rejected and scoffed at by, of all people, women. Tenderness is viewed as weakness and modern feminists desire the same aggressive strength and attributes they see in their male counterparts. This gross perversion and misogynistic self loathing is destroying society. The Overture is a call to compassion lest violence prevail. Without women behaving as women violence in our world will not only continue to prevail but will increase in intensity.

Women are taking up the tune of the C minor themes and drowning out the call to compassion and temperance leaving the strength of men unchecked by female tenderness. When females no longer find worth in being tender all that is left for us is unbridled rage.

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  • Jeanne Chabot

    I like this.

  • Lara

    With all due respect, I am not sure you understand the aims or ideas of Third Wave feminism. The equation of men and women is a hallmark of Second Wave feminism, which is the feminism most people are very familiar with, as it did make claims that men and women are no different from one another. However, if you’ll read some of the landmark books of Third Wave feminism, such as Manifesta: Young Women, Feminism, and the Future, the Third Wave makes no claims that men and women are exactly alike. Indeed, it reclaims the traditional hallmarks of femininity (including tenderness) that Second Wave feminism left behind in the fight for equality of the sexes. Being a mother, being feminine, and other such things are valid ways for women to express themselves as far as Third Wave feminism is concerned, especially since it originated the decidedly female-friendly girlie movement. Stay at home moms are not, or rarely, vilified in third wave feminist thought, and traditionally female crafts are validated as well. There is no hostility towards celebrating that which is distinctly male or female. And while Catholics might object, the inclusion of transgender people in the movement only shows that these feminists believe that gender is something which matters and has differences, or they would find transitioning and other expressions of gender identity totally pointless and abandonable. http://www.amazon.com/Third-Wave-Feminism/lm/R1FF7S4PQPDOIM/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_alt_1 has a good list many of which are available at the library.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      I was thinking more along the lines of feminist like Cordelia Fine who wrote Delusions of Gender.

      I appreciate you bringing the incorrect link to my attention. When I refer to modern feminism I refer to the post Suffragette movement, which you correctly pointed out is called Second Wave feminism or Women’s Lib.

      The riot grrrl movement – part of Third Wave feminism & which I was an active part of right down to the all girl punk band and Doc Marten boots – does indeed stress “girl power”. This girl power is not to be confused with genuine femininity though.

      The power they maintained to have was aggressive and manly. Ironically it was also anti all things womanly. It was a gross perversion of natural femininity in that their “power” was largely sexual & vulgar. Burp, fart, and fuck like men. etc etc etc.

      Third Wave Feminist still suffer under the same delusions as their hippy counterparts from the free-love sixties.

      PS- thank you for the link of reading recommendations.

      • Lara

        Thanks for responding; I agree that the Third Wave has its own set of problems as well, especially regarding sexuality, but I think the good parts are worth keeping, especially since they do encourage women to behave womanly, and since women can have real difficulty standing up for themselves. I will have to check out the book you mentioned, too.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rod.vanmechelen Rod Van Mechelen

        Third Wave Feminism has two main factions: “You Go Grrl!” and “Boys R Icky!” While the Boys R Icky faction frequently aligns with the Second Wave, the You Go Grrl! faction generally ignore or pretend the Boys R Icky faction does not exist. Ironic, given that, like the politically powerful representatives of Second Wave feminism, the Boys R Icky faction has far more mainstream attention and clout. Great article, by the way!

  • http://twitter.com/argillic argillic

    Great, even DEAD white males have more to say about women’s status than women themselves.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      Women say plenty for themselves and are hardly encumbered from doing so. Unfortunately a great deal of what they have to say is misguided and heavily influenced with the false ideology of radical feminism.

      Beethoven’s overture says nothing directly about feminism. I used it as an example of the different natures of man and women, as represented in the masculine and feminine themes.

  • Melia

    We have to be careful that we’re not compartmentalizing people too much here. Firstly, it is quite possible for a man to be tender or for a woman to be assertive without them both losing their essential identity. Men and women do have distinct differences, but there is some overlap; I prefer the term, ‘different but equal.’

    But otherwise, the truths expressed in this post I truly take to heart.

  • Salmantica

    Your writing is not very tender. Indeed it’s quite forceful. I guess you are secretly a man. Perhaps you should intersperse some giggling to soften the post.

    • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

      My secret’s out.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

    My point, in the final paragraphs, was that modern feminism is looking to extinguish all traces of femininity. They seek to remove the feminine from the equation entirely. There is no balance to be had when women are raised and expected to behave like men.

    • K White

      To be frank, that simply isn’t true. I don’t know what self-proclaimed feminists you’ve been speaking to or reading. I hope that you’ve been listening to them in good faith, and that you’ve simply had the misfortune of only hearing the voices of people who have a terrible misunderstanding of what feminism really is. I know that such people do exist. Of course we know that there are such people associated with every creed – who hasn’t met a “Catholic” or even “Christian” in general who holds some seriously distorted views?

      It is a contradiction for a feminist to seek an end to all things feminine. What feminists want, and what I want, is for things which we think of as being feminine (things, as you were saying, like peacemaking and tenderness) to no longer be exclusively female. And for masculine things no longer to be exclusively male. In that sense you might say that “feminine” things would no longer be “feminine,” they would be universal traits, just as masculine traits would also become universal. But that isn’t destruction – it’s expansion.

  • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

    Again, I say…

    My point, in the final paragraphs, was that modern feminism is looking to extinguish all traces of femininity. They seek to remove the feminine from the equation entirely. There is no balance to be had when women are raised and expected to behave like men.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/John-Evans/1017276335 John Evans

      And my point that the traits we ascribe to ‘femininity’ are social constructs and have held across cultures or through time.

      • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

        I see your point; however, this post was *not* about nature v. nurture or society v biology determining gender attributes. It was about radical feminism looking to remove the feminine from the gender equation entirely. I can see where you might have read that because I firmly believe that gender is naturally ascribed as opposed to being socially constructed by society.

        And the examples you gave above are excellent ones yet they are the exception, not the rule.

        • http://www.patheos.com/blogs/thecrescat Katrina Fernandez

          You are completely ignoring the element of radical feminism, which this post is about. I can’t be more clear. This post is *not* about Japan in the Edo period or Zulu cultures. It is about radical feminism looking to eradicate the feminine from society in it’s entirety. That’s it. Period. The End.

          Your failure to grasp my point, whether you agree with it or not, is not my problem. I cannot spend my time reiterating the same thing over and over in hopes that you’ll actually comprehend my meaning over your own hubris.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fidelbogen Fidelbogen Cf

    Since a few people have brought up the subject of third-wave feminism, I guess I am entitled to weigh in on that subject.

    I don’t much distinguish between first wave, second wave, third wave etc. These are all vital aspects of feminism, and everything they contain is presently alive and kicking. Second-wave feminism, for example, didn’t just die and disappear. It is still around, but pushed into the background by people who find it embarrassing. However, if you take a look, you will find that young feminists with second-wave attitudes are as prevalent now as they ever were.

    The packaging of feminism into different factions and “waves” is merely a way of deflecting and confusing the issue.


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