Misogynists Urged to Up Their Game

"Let me tell you the ten things that I'd like women to cook for me."

According to misogynistic pastors like Russell Moore and John Piper, “complementarians” just aren’t pushing women down enough.

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (ABP) – A movement in evangelical Christianity that promotes male headship and wifely submission in marriage faces competition today not from radical feminists but rather believers who are “complementarian” in name only, according to a panel at a recent pastor’s conference.

“What I fear is that we have many people in evangelicalism who can check off ‘complementarian’ on a box but who really aren’t living out complementarian lives,” Russell Moore, dean of the School of Theology and senior vice president for academic administration at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said during the April 10-12 Together for the Gospel Conference in Louisville, Ky.

Rest easy, those of you who think that women are equal, John Piper doesn’t think you’re going to Hell. Probably.

“I don’t think you have to be a complementarian to be saved,” said John Piper, pastor for preaching and vision at Bethlehem Baptist Church in Minneapolis/St. Paul. “So it’s not essential at that level, but as soon as you move beneath that level and ask what are the implications of not following through with what Ephesians 5 seems to say or First Timothy 2 seems to say — those would be the classic marriage church texts — the implications hermeneutically for the gospel are significant.”

Piper said “the kind of gymnastics” required to escape such texts chart a direction of biblical interpretation so that “sooner or later you are going to get the gospel wrong.”

Piper said egalitarianism — the view that roles described for men and women in the Bible are not God’s design but reflect the culture of that era — makes senseless Paul’s use of the marriage relationship as a witness to that of Christ and the church. He also said that churches not led by “strong male proclaimers and leaders” sooner or later will “malfunction along the way.”

Here’s hoping the John and Russell and other of their tribe will show up to hear from the variety of WOMEN church planters that we’ve got speaking at next week’s conference.

Who Thinks that God Is Still Speaking?

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Some of us giggled a bit when, a few years back, the notoriously liberal United Church of Christ denomination inaugurated a marketing campaign with the tagline, “God Is Still Speaking.” What they were getting at is that God’s interest in contemporary issues didn’t end when the final book of the canon was penned.

But what’s ironic about the slogan is that liberal Christians are quite reluctant to affirm that God speaks to them individually. That’s the territory of conservative evangelicals, especially those of charismatic and Pentecostal stripes. Like, for instance, believers who attend Vineyard churches.

That’s exactly the group that Tanya Luhrmann studied and writes about in her excellent book, When God Talks Back: Understanding the American Evangelical Relationship with God. Seriously, I cannot recommend this book highly enough. If you like this blog, you should read this book.

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Mark Driscoll’s Church Vandalized by Angry Queers

No, seriously, that’s the name of the group: Angry Queers. They threw baseball-sized rocks through windows (in case you don’t know how big a baseball is, the reporter holds one up to show you). Among the windows broken were century-old stained glass.


Vandals smashed nine windows with rocks at Mars Hill Church in southeast Portland overnight and a group claimed responsibility in an email sent to FOX 12.

Neighbors of the church called 911 at 3:20 a.m. Tuesday to report six people dressed in all black who had broken windows at the church.

Baseball-sized rocks were found around the church when police arrived. A Portland police spokesman said there was damage to nine standard windows and a hole in a section of the large, stained-glass window above the church’s main entrance.

via Vandals smash windows at Mars Hill Church in southeast Portland – KPTV – FOX 12.

Driscoll may be a bigot, but Angry Queers are stupid, stupid people.

Roger Olson Compares the Emergent Church with the Jesus Movement

I’ve heard it for years: “The emerging church is nothing more than the Jesus Movement warmed over.” Well, I don’t really think so, but who am I to say? Roger Olson is, as he states, one of the few persons who is qualified to really speak to the parallels, making this a must-read:

It’s dangerous to generalize about either the JPM or the ECM. Neither had/has a headquarters or unifying organization. Both were/are grassroots movements that seemed to spring up spontaneously and then snowball first into apparently relatively cohesive movements and then fall apart over deep differences of philosophy, theology and practice. Both had/have strong, public personalities that provide a certain degree of identity to their movements, but neither had/has any single personality looked up to by everyone associated with them. Both were/are very diverse but unified by a common, minimal ethos that set/sets them apart from the “mainstream” of American Christianity—evangelical or mainline.

Read the rest at Emerging Churches and the Jesus People Movement Compared (you’ll have to overlook Roger’s poor formatting)