Pastor Melissa Scott, Porn Star

by Lorette C. Luzajic
Part 6 of the Pillars of Faith series.

She Works Hard For the Money

Pastor Melissa ScottAnna Nicole does… Jesus? Well, sort of. America’s hottest televangelist is Pastor Melissa Scott, who struts her stuff on late night TV, and at the L.A. University Cathedral on Sunday mornings. She’s smart and beautiful, with impossibly long dark curls. No wonder she turned the head of the church’s former pastor, Dr. Gene Scott.

Gene crossed that river Jordan in 2005; Melissa had the keys to the kingdom. Mansions, Kentucky horse ranches, a collection of fancy cars, a private airplane, 24-hour bodyguards — and the church — are all now hers.

The Eccentric Hubby

Gene was an eccentric bibliophile, historian, con man and crackpot. He earned a million plus per month soliciting during sermons, during which he would swear freely, talk about alien conspiracies, and show videos of his “pony girls” on horseback — not to mention hiring scantily clad vixen “cheerleaders” to line the pews and lure ‘em in to the circus. He was also known as a brilliant linguist who knew Aramaic and Hebrew.

Today Melissa says she has taught herself 20 languages. Her detractors say she can’t even speak Spanish, never mind the dead ancient languages of the Bible, and that no one ever hears her in anything but English.

Either way, linguistics was an interest the couple had in common. Melissa says they met after service, and shared a passionate bond — over stamp collecting.

Meanwhile Back at the Ranch

Pullquote: Photographers, ex-husbands, and friends confirm Barbie Bridges is indeed Pastor Scott.

But Playmate Elke Jeinsen told Gretchen Voss otherwise, in this month’s Marie Claire. Dr. Gene entertained Penthouse Pets and such at his ranch, and Melissa “was there, always dancing for Doc topless, showing her tits right away.” Melissa Scott, otherwise known as Barbie Bridges. Or so they say.

Scott said that circulating photos were “expert Photoshop” works by obsessed weirdoes. She told Voss, “I was never an actress in pornographic movies.” Yet photographers, ex-husbands, and friends confirm Barbie Bridges is indeed Pastor Scott. Today, the University Cathedral forbids cameras, and no one knows where Ms. Scott resides. She comes from nowhere, with no one. She doesn’t mention her family.

Ain’t Nobody’s Business if I Do

Pullquote: Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert.

Why would someone be obsessed over a secret that’s already out? What could Scott lose — she has enough money to do nothing but shop for the rest of her life. If scholarship interests her, she can study at the most elite schools around the world — on horseback! If losing celebrity is a concern, showing up with her old hairdo and bikinis would guarantee center stage ‘til thy kingdom come. Is it possible, then, that no matter how far out and bizarre it seems, that she’s the real deal, and simply wants to share the Good News?

At first I felt sarcastic — “isn’t lying one of the Ten Commandments?” But giving it some thought revealed the error of my self-righteousness.

I must respect a woman’s right to refuse information about her private life or her past. Women get derailed publicly and professionally for their private lives. Sure, I‘d love it if super-sexy Scott — and other babes — ushered in a new shame-free paradigm. But that won’t happen in church anytime soon.

Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert. Even to lie, yes, because if you’re not the Virgin Mary, you’re the other thing. Scott’s past is none of our business.

Giving to the Poor

And if a grown man wants to marry a sexy scholar, and leave her all of his money, I can’t tell a senior citizen what to do. But Jesus noted a few times that greed wasn’t the best way through the pearly gates — or the eye of a needle. In fact, he said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell everything and give the money to the destitute, then come and follow me.”

I’ll believe that Melissa is in it for the gospel and not for the circus spectacle when she gives her inheritance to the poor. And I’m willing to bet that will be the day that hell freezes over.

Lorette C. Luzajic writes about all kinds of interesting people at Fascinating People.

  • Jerome

    She looks less hot in the video than on the picture here.

    • lion

      I dont think shes hot, I know shes hot and beautiful, You go girl!

    • Bruce A. Dagle

      That may be because in the picture you can think what you will but in the video she is talking the word of God which interupts you fantasy with reality

      • Sunny Day

        I don’t think those words mean what you think they mean.

    • Glenn Rebenstorf

      “In fact, he said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell everything and give the money to the destitute, then come and follow me.”
      I’ll believe that Melissa is in it for the gospel and not for the circus spectacle when she gives her inheritance to the poor. And I’m willing to bet that will be the day that hell freezes over.”

      The problem with the author of this “critique” is that she picked a text that was meant for the Rich Young Ruler ONLY and it was not a mandate for every single one of Jesus’ followers. You cannot take a letter of the word that kills and apply it to everyone. We have to heard from The Holy Spirit what we as INDIVIDUALS what He wants us to do.

      I wonder what secret issues are in this woman’s own life who wrote this “Critique.” I bet we
      would not be surprised.

      • jeremy

        Glenn,Did Dr.Gene Scott give his inheritance to the poor??

  • Kodie

    She’s such a funny little weirdo spaz. I always watch her go on for a minute or so if I’m aimlessly flipping channels and she’s on.

    • Elemenope

      I recall channel-surfing with my S.O. one night and coming upon Ms. Scott very animatedly making some point about Ephesians, and was momentarily transfixed by the spectacle. The intensity and conviction with which she could spout nonsense was awe-inspiring. And the glasses she would whip out for a dramatic perusal of text were very naughty librarian.

      • Michael

        All of those bullshit purveyors of religion are just bad actors…. trying out a new Gig to make money. And there are plenty of dumb mother-f–kers ready to part with their hard earned money.

        • http://www.hepcert.org Rev. Dr. Phillip C.

          You have obviously learned the run of the mill colorful metaphors, but you have not conceived the oddity of yourself because you are ignorant of the ‘message of God’ to His people. You’ll ride in the Caddy, but you care not who built it, and why should you? Perhaps you should try a little love and compassion, and take a good hard look into the mirror…you will see the person God loves.

          • Brian

            Wow. I’m amazed to say this, but I’ve heard more enlightened words from Dr. Pepper. Dr. Scholl’s tries, but he’s a troglodyte.

            I do appreciate that you were at least self-aware enough to put “message of God” in quotes.

            Finally: I don’t get your metaphor, but I’d be really curious to know if you can name a single person who was involved in the manufacturing of your car. One. And you can’t just make up a person and attribute a bunch of manufacturing skills and benevolent qualities to him: you only get to do that ONCE per belief system, and you already used yours up.

            • David

              If the person who manufactured my car sent me a text that could be unmistakably vindicated to be from him and then explained to me who he was and why he built my car I would be glad to tell you. I can tell you that SOMEONE built my car and there are plenty of ways for him to verify that it was him if he so chooses. The One we are speaking of has chosen to identify himself and, as is usual, the thought process in your rebuttal is shallow and not thought out to it’s logical conclusion.

          • Judy

            I just saw her tonight for the first time and found her to be very good at what she does. Some of the remarks on this site just plain make me sick to my stomach. It doesn’t matter what a person has done in their life, it matters what they are doing now. I agree with Rev. Dr. Phillip C in his comment: Perhaps you should try a little love and compassion, and take a good hard look into the mirror…you will see the person God loves. You guys need to stick to your “my space” pages is all I have to say about this subject. You are sick people…

            • Yoav

              I just saw her tonight for the first time and found her to be very good at what she does.

              A skilled purveyor of BS is still a purveyor of BS.

              It doesn’t matter what a person has done in their life, it matters what they are doing now.

              True, unfortunatly she have abandoned a productive career in porn in order to become a parasite praying on the feeble minded for (a very large) financial gain.

              You guys need to stick to your “my space” pages is all I have to say about this subject. You are sick people…

              Thanks for sharing, now go and fukc yourself with a rusty porcupine.

  • Baconsbud

    I agree she is more into it for the money then the belief. Until we as people make money less important then life it will continue this way. I feel sorry for those that donate money they can ill afford to give to an organization that doesn’t really need it.
    I do think if someone puts themselves in a position such as she has should expect to be questioned. I don’t think people should make a big deal about a persons past unless they are willing to open their past also. Not many people want their past examined to closely, we all have things we don’t want others to know.

    • http://zayzayem.wordpress.com zayzayem

      There’s only two paragraphs about the porn star allegations (one section); the majority of the article is about her relationship with the eccentric Dr. Gene Scott.

      It’s relevant to bring up that one bit of her past to point out how irrelevant it is.

      • Cornelia

        Paul was a murderer – Abraham and Peter were two-faced liars, Mary was a virgin, Mary Magdalene was a whore, David was an adulterer…And your point is?

        • REN

          Cornelia,
          Much of what you say is correct, however, find the scripture that says that Mary Magdalene was a whore. It states that she had seven demons and infirmities (Lk. 8:2) but at no time or place does scripture state she was a whore. That is a falsehood that the Roman Catholic church has spread about her for centuries. If it is in scripture please tell me where because I cannot find it in my NKJV Bible. Thank you.

    • Jamie

      Here’s what rattles everyone: Pastor M. is beautiful, a woman, and exhorbitantly smarter than any of us regular folk. I perceive this slamming of her is a mix of jealousy and misogyny…so simple…and ugly. Even if she ever was the biggest “porn” star, Jesus said those who are forgiven much love much. Even God can’t help those who hold her (former) sin against her over and above the Blood of Jesus. For all those who sit on their high horse of self-determined “goodness”, you are in for a very rude awakening w/in the next 50 years when you are dead. Jesus is not the “extra help” you needed to complete your own righteousness and thus salvation…He is all of it. Anything less than admitting you are a deprived sinner no better than Hitler or Manson is a lie…to yourself. We have NO righteousness in and of ourselves. And the grace Christ extended to Melissa is the exact same that Christ extended to you…unless you think you are a more “righteous” person to begin with, thus Christ didn’t have to do as much for you as He did for other “worse” sinners. Jesus didn’t give a helping hand, He totally saved the depraved. If you aren’t willing to admit that, then I seriously doubt you were ever born again. Be careful…for whatever you judge others, you will thereby judge yourself. You only have to commit one sin to be a sinner. Break one law to be a lawbreaker. Lest you deceive yourself, all sinners are CRIMINALS, no degrees, and equally need a Savior. Those who are backbiters would do well to either look in the mirror or focus their effort on praying for the unsaved who will spend eternity in hell. If you have no love, esp. for fellow believers, then you’d better be scared. You might be one of the ones Jesus tells “I never knew you”. Who does Christ not know? Those who did not love the brethren. Clue: Pastor Scott is a child of God, born into it by salvation by Jesus Christ. Quit wasting hate on her and focus it on the true enemy, the father of lies, and his minions and do something actually useful to God’s kingdom. Duh.

      • Mel

        Right on. This world needs the truth of God for salvation.

        Most everyone has done to Pastor Scott what the Catholic Church did to Mary Magdalene, declared her a prostitute, This way they can ignore the truth.

      • Lance

        You nailed it Jamie! Awesome! You too Mel!

      • http://myspace.com/mannawar Dave

        Jamie:

        I couldn’t have said it better. This “story” gave me righteous anger. As was said concerning Mary Magdeline, JESUS commented on how much more she had attended to Him than the owner of the house He was at, and forgave her sins after saying the much sin, much forgiven statement. Telling us the importance of forgiveness is all throughout the Bible. Who are we to pass judgement? The Bible says in Matt 7, “Judge not lest ye be judged.” Do you want to be judged by your standards of condemnation or by GOD’s standard of mercy and grace. And then there the thought about the splinter and the plank…I have heard both Gene and Melissa Scott on more than one occassion and I am not a new believer, but one wanting to usher in revival and hunger to grow closer to GOD. Melissa Scott’s teachings are powerful. She teaches, she hits you hard where you live and breakes down the word in a powerful way. Her past is behind her and she is a new creature/creation in the Lord. All of us have a past, so to the writer of this story and to some of the replies that condemn Melissa as well…what’s in your past? Isn’t it great that JESUS went to the cross and died for ALL OUR SINS? I grew up in foster homes and orphanages…so how many of you are going to be like my ex and tell me they came from real familes and I didn’;t so you all are so much better than me? The past is the past and when we repent GOD said we are separated from our sins as far as the eas is from the west, and it is as if it never happened. Again never happened. In the end….GOD wins.

        • Anon

          You’re not reading carefully. You’ve got the wrong woman. Mary wasn’t at the Pharisee’s house.

      • Frida

        STOP asking for $$$$ Mrs. Scott (ex – Barbie Bridges). Turn your religious studyings into a Non-Profit Organization.

        They took already thousands of dollars from my husband (without my knowledge, until now). My husband has been unemployed for a year, who knows where he got the $$$ for this ridiculous Mrs. Scott.

        Melissa Scott (Barbie Bridges – Porn Star) is a good talker for getting cash in her hands. She is holding a Bible and asking for money – not for God/Jesus – but for herself.

        Turn the the G. Scott Inheritance into a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION. Give someone or something a better quality of life with the money you are taking in.

        If Melissa Scott is REALLY a nice/giving/honest person, she needs to turn this congregation into a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.

        Don’t make your Sunday and Wednesday cermons private Mrs. Scott. On your ticket mailings it says, this is a private church. Why? The back of the ticket says “Not A Public Service”. Why, again?

        Is it because the $$$ you make isn’t being reported to the IRS? You specifically say on your website (on video) that you are not tax deductable. I understand you are very careful on running a legal congregation – who wouldn’t when you are making a lot of money (probably all cash).

        Melissa Scott briefly rambles on a dumb speech about why this Scott congregation in not tax deductibe.

        This whole Melissa Scott thing is so shady, it scares me, only because she is only asking for $$$ – she’s not making the world better with the money she’s taking, she’s only making her world nicer to live in.

        God/Jesus/& the World is winning while listening to Mrs. Scott. – Mrs. Scott is the only one Winning the Big Lottery Ticket through you people who give her $$$ (money). Make the G. Scott a NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION – then I will think about being a BELIVER.

        • Joey Rymer

          Frida, you are so wrong I can’t even start. If you don’t like her, all you have to do is nothing. Don’t watch her, don’t read about her, don’t do anything. She is the ONLY Paster that I trust and can believe. I wrote to her and requested info and she sent me a very nice Bible and a lot of good info. There was not any mention of money even though she sent me far more than I asked for. Just look in the mirror if you feel the need to speak ill of someone.

          • Custador

            Blind faith. It don’t half make you gullible.

            • Len

              Yeah, but she is pretty.

        • Bruce A. Dagle

          Is it the Law that makes a church legitimate? Is the church that is underground in China, hidding for there lives but flourshing in Love for God, a legitimate Church? You must understand that a NON-PROFIT ORGINIZATION is allowed to make all the profit it possibly can, it is only in how the profit is used which get it out of taxes. A NON-PROFIT ORGINIZATION could and does use the money to increase itself and to pay its board what ever it sees fit. It is not the government which can say what is a church and what is not. The church enjoys being legitmized by the world and uses it to promote itself. I almost wish the day would come when the government turns against it and forces the church to consider where their right to exist really comes from. Melissa Scott makes a stand and says this is a church and forces one to consider what is and what makes a church. I for one think there is a inordinate past, also a widow of a manipulative husband, all of which I have seen in the church of the NON-PROFIT ORGINIZATIONS, big time. I would like to see all the churches put off the acceptance of the world which sways it so and stand as the seperate, not of the world, entity it is, and exist be cause it is the body of Christ and has the knowledge of the Father.

      • The Custodian

        Well said, we all need to be reminded of our potential tword being self righteous!!

      • Lee

        She is wrong. period. Paul taught and you can find it in Corinthians and Timothy, that a woman was not to teach in the church. Her responsibilities were to teach children and other women. This woman is a fraud! I don’t care how much greek or hebrew or aramaic she knows. (probably NONE). She is after money. Plain and simple. She does not teach truth. Infact she is a Jezebel.

        • Sunny Day

          So you’re just going to dive right in there and cast the first stone eh?

        • Laughing

          Seriously, a Jezebel?

          Women aren’t supposed to preach?

          What century are you from?

          Just another good reason to stay clear of religion, to be filled with such goofy, hater ideas.

      • Good ole Joe

        For the record, this “sinner” is MUCH better than “Hitler or Manson” so don’t dump that standard crap on me.

        I find the Rev. Ms. Scott to be fun to watch. I don’t buy what she’s selling but the hair and her peg-legged pants and that coat remind me of a hippie chick I had the hots for back in the day. And Rev Ms Scott is hot.

      • Harriet

        The truth regarding Pastor Melissa Scott seems to be that she really IS a Christian, but that she really DOES unrighteously demand money. It is a mixing of a little error and much truth, thus making the error difficult to discern except one remains open to truth and has successfully dealt with many personal lies developed in one’s earlier years.

        Yes, at times she preaches a good message and the sincere, good side of her heart comes through.

        Yet at times she preaches an unbiblical message and the selfish/fearful/wounded side of her heart shows.

        Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Matthew 7:16-18

        • http://ohmatron.wordpress.com/ Custador

          You haven’t quite grasped who this blog is aimed at, have you Harriet?

      • S M Torres-Quaranto

        Nice going Jamie.. That’s telling them ;o)

        TC

      • moody moo

        I Liked Melissa ..She Was Great
        Ditto Jaime!!
        I Miss Her On TV O;-)

      • Tim

        Jamie,
        You have stated the facts (above) as I know them so clearly and truthfully without one hint of religious dogma. To quote Mr. Justin Timberlake (here) “What goes around comes back around.” (Its just a matter of time). I have watched Pastor Scott on numerous occasions and find her to be genuine and super-intelligent “Alpha-woman” Pastor, (not regarding religion per se) but more specifically regarding Real History in the way she translates the “words” which many (others) spin into “send me your money” type sermons.
        She exudes that passion for what she does and coupled with her deep-factual wisdom, I have the utmost respect for her.
        Now, if the rest of the world would try to learn (something) new everyday, we would not be in the mess that this Society is in today. Its (their) ignorance and delusion co-existing in a parrallel illusion, (believing its real). Its the “meme” that their mommies and daddies taught them to believe.

        • http://lycos.com Bea K.

          Tim,
          I agree with what you’ve said about Pastor Scott and miss seeing her on t.v. , and believe that she does have a heart for the Lord, but it also puzzles as to why she seems to have a ‘dis-taste’ for the ‘book of James’ just like her husband did?

          If we’re true Christians, then either we ‘accept’ ALL of none of it (the Bible), we can not pick and choose the parts we like and do not like, God doesn’t work that way either. Because Mrs. Scott and her deceased husband disagreed with James, doesn’t mean this book should not be in the Bible, that’s God’s choice not ours.

          I hope and pray that by now, Mrs. Scott has really lost her hang up about this book, because if not then I will begin to wonder what god is she referencing, and which Bible does she actually believe in?

          • Nzo

            Questions for Beak:

            Are you a woman?
            Do you speak in church?
            Do you wear cotton and nylon clothing together? What about either of those with polyester?
            Do you like slavery, rape, murder?
            Did you post this on a Sunday?

  • Elemenope

    Scott’s past is none of our business.

    So, um…then why is better than half the article about just that?

    • Phrankygee

      ‘Zactly what I was gonna say. I have to call Hypocrisy and BS in a major way on this article, and really all the others in the series too.

      The “Pillars of the Faith” series might as well be called the “Ad Hominem Report”. I admit that they are very interesting, and a “Christian Wierdos” segment is fine and dandy, I suppose, if you are just trying to entertain, but it is hardly enlightening to anyone struggling with issues of belief/disbelief in the Supernatural.

      • rodneyAnonymous

        Why not “Hypocrisy Report”, and why is that not enlightening?

        • Elemenope

          Because as the article somewhat back-handedly points out, it has no relevance to her later employment, which is what brings her into scrutiny for the series in the first place. That is, she is being written about because she is a preacher, not because she was a porn star. It would be hypocrisy if she were a porn star *while* she were preaching, and then it would be relevant to the conversation. On the other hand, nobody has the power to change their past, and some pasts are inescapable without a little lying. This is particularly true in cases of sexual promiscuous women, which our culture condemns in a thoroughly misogynistic fashion. So to bring it up in order to make commentary about a person’s past can serve no purpose in this cultural milieu except to feed the desire for salacity, and has no probative value.

          • rodneyAnonymous

            t would be hypocrisy if she were a porn star *while* she were preaching

            Yes, good point. This article is weak in a way that others in the series are not.

          • http://www.hepcert.org Dr. Rev. Phillip C.

            Yes indeed. Are we talking about the past or present here? Was Paul a good person or a bad person? Do any good people go to Heaven? Both the answers are negative. Persons with diverse backgrounds make up the pastors who spread the gospel of Jesus Christ; and I think that is what we are talking about…or should be.

            • Custador

              Are you in any way related to John C?

            • DarkMatter

              I didn’t know apostle Paul married a rich old woman.

            • http://www.hepcert.org Dr. Phillip Claude L

              Your ignorance precedes you. You need to start at Bible 101, because what you just said is embarrassing to even read or quote. Your avatar says it all!

            • Sunny Day

              “Both the answers are negative”

              This is true, but only because there is no afterlife.

            • http://www.hepcert.org Dr. Rev. Phillip C.

              I think you would be happier on churchofgoogle.com with idiotic statements like that.

            • DarkMatter

              Don’t say that, Doctor Reverence Phillip C.

            • Sunny Day

              Is that one of those laughable, “Athiesm is a religion” references? I can’t tell with the pop culture ejaculate covering it.

  • Phrankygee

    I just clicked through to her site, and the embedded video that pops up there doesn’t go for 15 seconds before she talks about “Girding Loins”. I pretty much had to stop right there.

  • http://www.wortvogel.de Torsten

    If I understand it correctly, there is compelling evidence that she is a former sex star, but no substantial proof. Wouldn’t it be appropriate to put a question mark in the title of this blog post?

    • Phrankygee

      No, I think there is evidence to the *point* of proof, but no personal admission (confession?). Not sure why, though. It’s not like a sexy woman can’t also be a biblical scholar.

      Just a side note: the picture of her hubby on the ministry’s site looks a lot like a bearded Bill Clinton.

    • Origin

      Actually this is some proof about her and some hilarious ex-staff comments. This person is a real lunatic who made this site:

      The Truth About Pastor Melissa Scott

  • cello

    I have to question the questioning of her past in this article too. I’ve seen plenty of Christians dredge up her past to prove some point about how she isn’t a “true Christian” for whatever their reason du jour is – wrong doctrine, wrong behavior, women shouldn’t be pastoring, whatever. So I’m not a big fan of that technique which as far as I can tell, doesn’t really prove anything about anything anyway, no matter who is using it.

    • http://billpost.blogspot.com/ Bill

      Plus a “bad past” is often used by xians to show how “Jesus turned my life around.”

      Really, who cares if she was a porn star in a past life? Sounds like what she is doing now is way worse anyway.

      • Sunny Day

        I care!

        It would give me an opportunity to show up with an 8×10 glossy and ask for her autograph. or Have her sign a DVD Case.

        Better yet, Watch one of her videos on my ipod during a service.

  • wazza

    I think the background helps understand the later argument to let her hide her past if she wants to

    More importantly, those of you crying “Ad Hominem!” need to think about what ad hominem actually means. It’s not a personal attack; it’s a personal attack with no relevance to your argument. Pastors are meant to be moral examples for others, and so exposing their hypocrisy isn’t ad hominem.

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  • John T.

    Oh please.

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    And if a grown man wants to marry a sexy scholar, and leave her all of his money, I can’t tell a senior citizen what to do. But Jesus noted a few times that greed wasn’t the best way through the pearly gates — or the eye of a needle. In fact, he said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell everything and give the money to the destitute, then come and follow me.”

    I’ll believe that Melissa is in it for the gospel and not for the circus spectacle when she gives her inheritance to the poor. And I’m willing to bet that will be the day that hell freezes over.

    I’m trying to figure out what the goal of this series of posts is.

    Is it?

    A) To expose hypocrites?
    B) To expose hypocrites and imply that all of Christianity is a farce because we’re all hypocrites?
    C) To point out the inconsistencies of various ‘Christian leaders’?
    D) None of the above (in which case, please fill in the blank)?

    With respect to this story specifically and some other posts about preachers and money, why is there so much pushback to preachers soliciting money from UF readers? It is possible, I think, to look at it from a purely economical perspective. The preacher offers a service. The consumer values the services and compensates the preacher monetarily.

    So some preachers make way too much money. So do athletes. So do CEOs on Wall Street.

    Is it the inconsistency of the preacher that bothers you all? Or, is it that they’re making money offering a service that you think is BS? Or is it option D, i.e., something I’m just missing?

    For the record, I’m not defending the people in the post. Like Bentley yesterday, they seem to deserve all the criticism they can get. I’m just using this post as a segway into a discussion about something I’ve been wondering for a while.

    • LRA

      Except that the bible specifically states that prophets going around asking for money are false prophets… (In the acts of the apostles). So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister.

      • http://progressatallcost.blogspot.com/ markbey

        ” So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister. ”

        This has been my feeling for a long time now. I believe that all preachers (because they have been supposedlly been annointen by god) should take a vow of modesty in what salary and gifts they will accept from the church.

        • Daniel Florien

          And yet, their profession requires anything but modesty and humility. They get up and tell people what God wants them to do, what God is like, how they can know they can go to heaven, etc.

          A humble preacher is an oxymoron, IMO.

          • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

            You’ve been listening to the wrong preachers :)

            • Daniel Florien

              Oh, I’m sure I’ve listened to the ones you like. I even like a number of them. And I know they profess humility, and I used to think they were humble. And maybe they are in some Christian sense.

              But I don’t think speaking for God and telling others what they must do and believe is compatible with humility.

            • profesora

              Hmm. . . speaking for God and telling others what they must do and believe is EXACTLY

            • profesora

              I didn’t finish the abave comment. Speaking for God and telling others what they must do is EXACTLY what the Lord Jesus Christ did! You don’t think He was humble?

            • Custador

              No. I think he was either a liar or didn’t exist.

            • wazza

              well, he did basically say “I am teh most orsum!”

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              But I don’t think speaking for God and telling others what they must do and believe is compatible with humility.

              I don’t like those people either… But, no sense beating a dead horse.

        • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

          This has been my feeling for a long time now. I believe that all preachers (because they have been supposedlly been annointen by god) should take a vow of modesty in what salary and gifts they will accept from the church.

          A lot of them (us) do; we just don’t make the news… or the front page of UF :)

          • StrangeFire

            You keep em’ humble Lord and We’ll keep em’ poor… Amen
            ‘annointen’ huh? Are sure your not Curly of the Three Stoogies?

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        From 1 Timothy 5:

        17Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching; 18for the scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves to be paid.”

        • Phrankygee

          Makes me think a preacher wrote 2 Timothy. And 1st Tim, and Titus, too. Convenient, huh?

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        Question for markbey and LRA based on LRA’s comment:

        So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister.

        How would you two define modest? What do you mean specifically?

        • Siberia

          Y’know, I don’t know over there, but over here, in my mother’s old church (we moved out of state), the ministers didn’t earn anything because ministering wasn’t supposed to be their profession. The church’s founder himself was a practising doctor, one was an engineer, etc.

          There were a few who were in it professionally, I recall now, but I don’t think their salaries were that high…

          Maybe that would be a good thing?

    • Daniel Florien

      I see the point as interesting glimpses at religious leaders who some people respect, from a perspective we don’t usually hear. Obviously just because so many Christian leaders are hypocrites and frauds, doesn’t mean they all are.

      As for making money, fundie preachers making money does bother me, only because of the hypocrisy of their Dear Leader telling them that poverty is good and that riches is bad. But I don’t think making money is bad, only when you do it by duping people or by methods that goes against what you preach.

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        That makes good sense.

        What about prosperity gospel preachers who say we should all be rich?

        • rodneyAnonymous

          The world economy is effectively zero-sum. Every dollar you spend beyond the absolute bare necessity for survival drips with the blood of a starving child.

          Prosperity preachers are either short-sighted or selfish or both.

          • Elemenope

            Whoa.

            Fiscal expenditure is zero-sum, in the short run. Economic activity is almost *never* zero-sum, especially over the long run. The two should not be conflated.

            I do agree that prosperity preachers are leeches, because their income is generally non-productive.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Worldwide or within a country/microeconomy?

            • Elemenope

              Worldwide. Economic activity produces capital, it doesn’t merely push it around from one place to another. Productive labor adds value (which generates capital), so economic systems are positive-sum in total. If they weren’t, there would literally be no reason to engage in them.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Mmm, I dunno, it seems like the only way for some people to be rich is for other people to be poor. Labor is converted to capital, and labor is disproportionately shared among humanity. The only way to create more capital without more labor is to improve energy generation or energy generation efficiency. If everyone is rich, no one is. True?

            • Elemenope

              If everyone is rich, no one is. True?

              Depends on what you mean by ‘rich’. if by rich you mean a relative term of comparison, then obviously that’s true. If on the other hand if you mean “wants for no need”, then it is clearly false.

              To use a Marxian analysis for a moment, Marx argued that capitalism was the penultimate step to the solution of two ancient problems, namely scarcity and conflict. In the state of nature, scarcity of needed goods is the limiting factor of society; in order for some to have, others must go without. This in turn leads to cycles of conflict to compete over those scarce resources. At a certain point, humans realized that organized labor was more efficient at collecting resources and producing things from them (hence making them less scarce), and so conflict was channeled from seizing resources to seizing labor, hence the birth of slavery. This was made possible by technological advances, such as agriculture, technologies of war, construction, and transportation.

              Slavery itself, though, has its own inefficiencies (caused, for the most part by the information problems inherent to centralization), and led to partial resolution in feudalism, and later complete resolution in modern capitalism. Capitalism, due to its distributed solution to the information price-problem outperforms the prior systems to the extent that it basically solves the problem of scarcity. It is only the penultimate step, Marx argued, because the inequalities of the system are likely to be perpetuated in perpetuity, absent a systemic change, because people who benefit from owning the means by which goods are produced (capital) benefit too much from the consequences of inequality to be motivated to reduce it. Conflict, then, is the manifestation of the wealthy attempting to maintain and further their advantage at the expense of others, and was no longer about scarcity.

              Marx’s solution was to force a revolution and reestablish central control over distribution of production in order to redistribute more equitably the goods produced; he argued that since the problem of scarcity had been solved by the fruits of capitalism, this would end up being equitable for all. What he failed tor realize was that his solution destroyed the very thing that allowed capitalism to solve the problem of scarcity in the first place, market-mechanisms using the price signal to deal with the information problem; the history of the last 100 years or so bears out that his solution did not work, and would not work absent a profound change in the capacity for production (such as a technological singularity).

              Capitalists argue generally that while the benefits of capitalism are distributed unequally (and are likely to remain so), they are still distributed roughly globally. That is, the presence of a functioning economy causes a relative gain in impoverished places even as it benefits the already rich.

              Personally I think that there is some evidence this is true, but their optimism is mitigated in me by the corrupting influence that money invariably has on politics, causing rent-seeking (and destroying, in a different way, capitalism as it is normally defined) by changing the rules of operation to favor the already-powerful.

            • wazza

              Economics can never be zero-sum, because the real basis of the economy are things like grain, wood and information that just keep on growing. I can take ten seeds and turn them into 100 very easily. That’s not a zero-sum exchange.

              The trick to dealing with inequalities is a) to make sure everyone gets at least some of the pie and b) enlarge the pie until everyone’s share is enough to feed them.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Ok, scratch the zero-sum claim. At some point in the future, the starving child will be a well-fed child. But right now it’s starving. Some people have more because other people have less. Perhaps that is not necessarily true, but it is practically true, or at least (legitimately) arguably true. That is, I am making a case based on philosophic reality, not economic theory, that excess wealth ultimately comes from inadequate wealth. Agree/disagree?

            • Elemenope

              That is, I am making a case based on philosophic reality, not economic theory, that excess wealth ultimately comes from inadequate wealth. Agree/disagree?

              I agree that the drive to possess for the sake of possession is an artifact of inequality, and so if everyone had what they wanted, nobody (or vanishingly few) would strive to have more for its own sake. That’s like Star Trek Replicator/Diamond Age Nanotech territory though. You’d need a technological singularity to transpire, basically, before the practical capacity to give everyone everything they want would be an achievable condition.

            • Phrankygee

              You guys just fried my brain. I have to go play videogames now, until my brain stops hurting from all the smarty-smart-smart thinky-think stuff you guys just did.

            • Revyloution

              Im late to the game here at UF, but I wandered upon this conversation.

              Elemenope, I really wished you lived close by. Id buy you a beer or three for that summation of Marxism, Capitalism, and how they emerged from an innate need to distribute resources. You really need to print that out and frame it.

            • Elemenope

              :o)

              I really can’t take credit. It is but a regurgitation (spruced up for color) of what I learned in classes and studies, almost verbatim of how my professor described how the Marxian critique of capitalism mirrors exactly the Hegelian “system”, his philosophy of history (to which Marx owed a great personal intellectual debt).

              My professor taught a remarkable course, one that I think would be well advised for others to copy, if only because it provides the final missing link between the age of metaphysics and what we have now. The structure was of the destruction of the Hegelian system in three parts; Marx, Nietzsche, Freud, the three great critics who each took a piece of the system and turned it on its head. The analysis resonated with me because for the first time ever what I was learning in a philosophy class matched not just with an internal logical schema, but also with my lived experience. The final decisive break from Hegel was the break from all prior philosophy; it is made explicit fiction that the rational alone possesses reality. I personally found affinity to Nietzsche’s portion (perhaps for aesthetic reasons alone) that reality, such as it is, does not cotton to the pretensions of human rationality.

              I marveled at the teachings of that professor because they opened my eyes, which paled in turn to what I have learned just interacting on the Internet, where it is removed for me beyond all doubt, as for everyone who ventures, that there exists someone who is smarter, more keen, more aware of reality than I am (because, like everyone, I have met such comments that I could not exceed in quality). That experience leads me to believe that the entire problem of humanity (or its problems collected) are merely those of distributed and accumulated knowledge, that is only just beyond our grasp at realizing, at synthesizing truly productive answers.

              Marx was right, even studying the wrong problem, two hundred years before a solution would present itself. Competition is a but an efficient means to an end. The truth is that capitalism is but a stepping stone, not to socialism, but to we know not what.

    • DarkMatter

      “The preacher offers a service. The consumer values the services and compensates the preacher monetarily.

      So some preachers make way too much money. So do athletes. So do CEOs on Wall Street.”

      You say you are not defending these people, but hiding the fact that churches and ministries can enrich themselves from their members makes you one of them, indirectly.

      Now is the time that christianity reveals the economic of religion so that, consumers(christians and unbelievers) can make their choices reasonably.

      To know a little bit of economic of religion, you can listen:
      http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2006/10/the_economics_o_7.html

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        You say you are not defending these people, but hiding the fact that churches and ministries can enrich themselves from their members makes you one of them, indirectly.

        My comments that you quoted aren’t meant in defense of these folks specifically but were rather a bit of a jab at the criticism I’ve perceived here, i.e., that some ministers make too much money. I agree that that’s the case, but it’s curious to me that we would single out ministers. That’s all I was saying.

    • Baconsbud

      Brgulker athletes and CEO don’t go around saying how humble we are all suppose to be. They don’t go around telling everyone to give until it hurts. I do agree they are way overpaid but until people understand that they are paid this much because we are willing to pay way to much for what they provide. They will continue to receive these salaries.

      In another comment you asked what a modest salary might be. I would say enough to ensure that all his basic needs are taken care of. I would say he would need to have an expense account, since many pastors do end up doing a lot more travel then most people. If a pastor is really there because he truly believes, he shouldn’t be worried about making large sums of money. I do understand that money can easily corrupt anyone, if a pastor truly believes he would turn down anything more then he needs to live a decent life. He would then use the money he turns down, I doubt many would do this, to help those in his community. It wouldn’t matter if they were part of his congregation or not. Nor should there be any real strings to getting it. He wouldn’t even have to let them know it was from the church.

  • LRA

    Whatever else I think of the rest of the article, I agree with the following statement:

    “Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert. Even to lie, yes, because if you’re not the Virgin Mary, you’re the other thing.”

    I’m sick of misogynists painting all women as either saints or whores. And frankly, I don’t get it. So, according to this thought, women you sleep with should be whores and women you marry should be saints? Doesn’t that make for a boring marriage with a high probability of cheating? Why not go for a girl that is somewhere in between that?

    I dunno… just bringing it up because I’ve met men like this before and was surprised to learn that they’re more common than I would have guessed in today’s day and age.

    • ftsor

      I’ve actually been reading a pretty interesting book about this (“The Purity Myth”, by Jessica Valenti). The double standard and Madonna-whore complex are not only alive and well in America, but also federally funded in the forms of “purity balls” for teenagers and abstinence-only sex education. It’s pretty depressing that attitudes like these are still so prevalent.

      • LRA

        Yes… what really makes me mad is that men aren’t held to the same standard of “purity” as women. Ridiculous.

        • Master Tazz

          Ms Scott is the best. Ive seen ever

    • Len

      That sounds like a great theme for a party: saints or whores. Count me in.

  • Lorette

    Hi friends, and thanks always for so many interesting and thoughtful comments, both in praise and condemnation. I read and consider every comment. It did cross my mind that mentioning the porn scandal even as I revealed finding respect for Scott’s privacy might show no respect for her privacy. But then I considered that the cat’s already out of the bag in a big way and I’m sure not breaking any news. I was personally amazed at my own knee-jerk reaction, instilled deeply from fundamentalism in childhood, a reaction I thought was long gone in years of progressive liberalism and biology and freedom seeking. I felt it was important to confess that.

    As for the reason for the series- D- other. The messenger of the gospel is an incredibly important part in translating, transcribing, bringing the message. And interpreting it. All of the seams I’d made to hold it together in my heart fell apart during a series of incidents of racism and homophobia unapologetically spoken by “Christians.” I had always used the “they’re not a real Christian” fall out. But now I wasn’t so sure I was a real Christian, and started researching more heavily than ever before the history of the church. And the early church had so many different perspectives and sects and interpretations. Then there was the possibility that Jesus didn’t even exist historically. The pagan history which I had already studied a lot of and began looking at more thoroughly. But most importantly, I asked about the messengers.

    Who could I trust? The ones who wrote the Bible? Put it together? The priests? The early fathers? The Inquisitors? The more I looked for someone trusted who could bring the message forward, the more my eyes opened. From today’s preachers to the earliest Christian philosophers, I found incredible things I hadn’t learned in church. I knew all about Luther’s brave work for reform. But not his disgusting and clear hatred of Jews, in plain language that makes Eminem look like an altar boy. Calvin, my dad’s fave- he had to be pure of heart! I found otherwise- the witch burnings weren’t just Catholic after all! Tertullian- well, women are open sewers with no soul. Book burnings, torture, sexism, slavery, greed.

    While I won’t deny I enjoy a bit of gossip and scandal, and clearly I’m not alone, I do believe it is important to speak of the unspeakable, to know some of the whole story. I went looking for “real Christians” and I didn’t find any. Of course I know we are all human. But I won’t take my gospel from Charles Manson or Ted Bundy or Hitler and so I won’t take it from John Calvin or Pat Robertson or Constantine either. I hope these brief sketches have a shred of wit and curiousity and that they entertain. But I do believe that beyond that debatable value, it is indeed imperative to know the darker side of those we blindly follow.

    Thanks again,
    Lorette

    • DarkMatter

      I enjoy reading your postings.

      Thanks Lorette.

    • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

      Thanks for the response, Lorette. It gives some context for me, which is what I asked for specifically. I appreciate your response.

      I went looking for “real Christians” and I didn’t find any.

      I suppose we would both agree; that’s tragic.

      But, if you’re ever still looking, I’d be happy to introduce you :)

      • Question-I-thority

        You stated in one of your early posts that (I’m paraphrasing) you hope that Jesus rose from the dead. Does that mean that true Christians are philosophical agnostics/pragmatic believers?

        • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

          I don’t dare speak for other Christians on this topic, because I’m probably a bit of a heretic on this issue, really.

          But, I’ll take a stab, as long as it’s understood that I’m speaking for me and only me. And I’ll get at this in a very roundabout way… or perhaps it’s just rambling :)

          In the past, I’ve spoken of the epistemic limits of faith. Faith is faith, not scientific knowledge. I don’t know God exists anymore than the next person. I’ve never met God. I’ve never heard God speak, as others claim to have. I don’t “know” God exists; I believe God exists.

          But, I do have a handful of things that contribute to my faith, things I have observed along life’s journey that have influenced my choice.

          I’ve had experiences in my life that defy explanation (cue rodney with some cynical LSD comments) that have contributed to my choice for faith. I have experienced Jesus’ love through other people and been deeply changed by his teachings. I’ve personally witnessed at least one miracle, perhaps two, and they happened in the name of Jesus (I realize that’s not proof for God, let along the Abrahamic God, so don’t misunderstand me to be saying that, and let’s not have the God of the gaps conversation, if that’s okay). To name just a few …

          Obviously, those experiences are entirely subjective, and they aren’t transferable to someone else. Furthermore, for those events to have anything to do with my faith, I have to attribute them to Jesus. I get that.

          I’ve also spoken before about worldview as a choice. And for me, the Christian narrative of Creation-Sin-Redemption is as convincing an explanation of the human condition as I’ve ever heard. And it resonates deeply with me and my life’s experiences. It obviously does not for almost everyone else here… and that’s fine with me. You’re free to reject it just as I am free to choose it.

          So, am I an agnostic? It depends on (at least) two questions, as I see it.
          1) Can revelation be a valid type of knowledge, even if of a different category than what you would consider to be knowledge?
          2) Can subjective experiences be considered to be knowledge?

          If you answer both of those as, “No,” (which I think you will?), then yes I am an agnostic — by that definition of knowledge, because I am left literally without knowledge (a- gnosis)

          If, however, either 1 or 2 (or both) are possible, then I’m not.

          I’m trying really hard not to play the semantics game… I hope I’m not.

          Am I pragmatic? Yep. As I’ve said, the Christian narrative of Creation-Sin-Redemption resonates deeply with my life experiences, i.e., it works for me. I’m not really an evangelist as would be popularly conceived. I don’t feel compelled to “reach the world for Christ” in the same way as other Evangelicals do. In short, I think it’s more important to love one’s neighbor than to convince him that you are right, which is a big reason why I work with non-profits rather than in a church. But I also have a very different soteriology, i.e., I tend to be universalistic.

          I’m rambling… I’m pragmatic in that I believe what I believe because I’ve been convinced by Jesus, but I realize that not everyone is, and I don’t feel compelled to change your mind. I’m happy to share my beliefs with you and get involved in a good debate — but my goal isn’t to change your mind. Frankly, if what I believe about God is true, then one day all of us “…shall see him as he is…” and experience mercy, not damnation.

          And if I’m wrong about God, afterlife, Jesus, etc., I don’t feel that I’m any worse off than anyone else; I’ll be dead, and dead will be dead.

          But, when I’m on my deathbed (assuming I die a death that allows that), I want to be able to reflect back on my life and know that I contributed something of value to other people; I want to know that I loved my neighbor as I loved myself. Do you need Jesus to make that happen for you? I don’t know. I can’t speak for you. But I can speak for me, and I know I do. So, I follow him.

          That’s as honest as I can be. I bared a bit of my soul there, so please be sensitive :)

          • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

            but my goal isn’t to change your mind.

            I should have added “change your mind about Jesus.”

            I’m more than happy to try to change your mind about other things, as you may have noticed. :)

          • rodneyAnonymous

            And if I’m wrong about God, afterlife, Jesus, etc., I don’t feel that I’m any worse off than anyone else; I’ll be dead, and dead will be dead.

            But “Yahweh exists” and “Yahweh does not exist” are not the only two options. What if you die and find yourself before Baal, who is pissed that you worshipped a rival god? Or it is Yahweh, and some other Christian sect is right, and you’re going to Hell for heresy? You’re suggesting you believe the only alternatives are Heaven and oblivion.

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              Yes, I am assuming that. If it’s really Baal up there, then I’m screwed.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              What if you’re generally right about Yahweh and Jesus, but wrong about specifics?

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              If I’m generally right about YHWH and Jesus, then mercy wins, and I don’t need to be worried at all.

            • Siberia

              Or Cthulhu… but that’s OK, we’ll all be eaten.
              Actually, your explanation makes a lot of sense. I can see it reflected in my mother’s actions and beliefs. That’s the Christianity I can accept and be OK with… even if I still am dubious as f-k about everything (in special the whole miracle and sin things, but heh). Nice to know there are rational people out there – even if they believe in silly things :p

            • rodneyAnonymous

              I guess I consider “Yahweh is merciful” to be specifics :P

            • Elemenope

              He did say he was universalist, after all.
              ——
              The Baal counterexample has always bothered me, for the simple fact that if there were a deity which at any point was at all interested in human affairs and human worship, it is incredible that such a deity were extant and yet have no worshipers. So, it is reasonable, given the relative absence of Baal worshipers to infer either that Ball does not exist, or Baal does exist and does not care about humans (which amounts, in the end, to the same result).

              Baal’s existence is a dead hypothesis, in the Jamesean sense.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Yes, the Isrealites destroyed the Canaanites, so Yahweh has many worshippers and Baal has few.

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              He did say he was universalist, after all.

              I said I lean that way. I’m not convinced yet. :)

            • Elemenope

              I said I lean that way. I’m not convinced yet. :)

              Fair enough. I did not mean to assign a solid position to you if you are merely considering the hypothesis. I grew up in a UU church (which is its own brand of wacky), but in view of wider Christian hypotheses I find Universalism generally problematic, though no less so than separationism. The trouble is with positing a moral God and attempting to deduce consequences from that premise.

            • Ty

              Funny how the gods win or lose based on how capable their followers are of genocide.

              Kind of like video games where you take on the role of a god.

            • Elemenope

              Most religions do not die out because their followers are suddenly wiped out in a genocide.

            • Brother James

              Hello There. Peace of Christ..

              Jehovah and Yahweh are man made, jehvoah was made by Raymond Martini in 1270 and finished in 1533-36 by Martin Luther when he changed the english I and U of Iehouah of William Tyndale the first person who printed a bible in english, and a friend of Martin Luther….Luther replaced the english I and U for the German J and V..and the name jehovah was born, to please all the people of the so called protestant denominations, another sect of catholics dressed different, but riding the same train to hell……

              Gessenius come up with the name yahweh in 1725-70……There is onle One Name above all Names….Joshuah=Jesus….

              God Bless………Brother James

          • Question-I-thority

            Thank you for a well thought out response. I sense that you are not sure that (your) personal revelation and experience can be a valid category for ‘knowing’?

            The transcendence/Immanence problem was one that helped ease me away from Christian liberalism. The epistemological problem with revelation is in trying to interpret and categorize that which is by nature beyond our ability to do. Assuming that debunking was not possible, how does one go about evaluating a revelatory claim? I think this is where the flashes of anger shown toward you sometimes are coming from. To say that one believes by faith looks like one believes because one believes. Massaging traditional texts and falling back on erudite scriptural possibilities looks weak and suggests that liberal Christians are so primarily for reasons of comfort. Unless there is some rational way to unlock the revelatory (spiritual) claims so that reasonable people can examine them and say, ‘Oh yes, there is a revelatory action’, the responsible position is skepticism toward spiritual claims, is it not? Is there some AntiReason us skeptics don’t know about? This is why we keep asking for detailed supportive and confirmatory evidence for extraordinary claims. That’s the little hill. The big hill is how to effectively interpret any supposed anomalies if they were to in fact turn up.

            When I confronted these problems some 25 years ago, I was having dinner with friends and we were discussing the transcendence/immanence problem and I said that if Jesus appeared right then and made a claim to godhood, I would not have the ability to confirm or deny his claim.

            Of course, there is no current way of getting beyond the mere possibility that Jesus ever did say such a thing and if he did in fact say it, how to give his claim weight.

            PZ Myers has an interesting take today on Christian liberalism. I’ll extend a metaphor he uses: Christian liberalism is the comforting, don’t be afraid elevator musak at Bible Towers.

            I hope that my tone doesn’t come across as mean spirited as that is not my intention. We have much in common and many battles to fight together.

            • Brother James

              Hello Question-I-Thority….Peace of Christ.

              You say >>>I hope that my tone doesn’t come across as mean spirited as that is not my intention. We have much in common and many battles to fight together<<<<>>>Assuming that debunking was not possible, how does one go about evaluating a revelatory claim? I think this is where the flashes of anger shown toward you sometimes are coming from<<>>>The transcendence/Immanence problem was one that helped ease me away from Christian liberalism<<>The epistemological problem with revelation is in trying to interpret and categorize that which is by nature beyond our ability to do>

              No-one can Interpert and follow revelations unless the person is submited to Jesus…..otherwise the person is following satan due that he is a tricky, tricky, tricky and CUNNY…that is where the gnostics lose all the good of knowing that…..Keep that knowledge and build around it what is need it, “If you believe in Jesus”…if not?!!! just keep coasting till the day of the Lord, the day of WRATH gets here….

              You say >> To say that one believes by faith looks like one believes because one believes.<<<<<<<

              No, No, No, Brother, a revelation is never made to someone who doesn't know what the revelations means!!!…..that is how satan works….the God of the bible empower the person so he/she can understand clearly what He wants…Jesus said to some Jews….You Father is the devil (even do they were claiming that Abraham an YHWH was their heavenly Father)..then Jesus said…Only the people of God of the bible know that the God of the bible says, if my Father was your God, then you would accept what I say, yet!! you trying to kill me….see!!!! now!! The devil has taken care of that very very nicely, that is why there are so many denominations, and so many so-called christians churches, with their own goverment aside from what the bible SAYS and what JESUS COMMANDS…..take for instance this:

              Jesus says: If you "LOVE ME" You "WILL OBEY MY COMMANDMENTS"…see!!! welll!!!! No-one in christendom (The catholic church and the protestant denominations) Obey His Law, Yet!!! You see them daily chanting and saying and preaching they Love Jesus…see!!!! and if you tell them different, then you have no love, you belong to satan, you are this, that, etc. etc.
              See! Jesus Commands Peter to baptize His People (The Jews) in His Name, yet!!! christendom rejects that, and!!! That is the time when the person wheter a Jew or a Gentile can become of Jesus…by accepting God's Grace and the Promise (Eternal OLife)…yet!!! 99.999999999999999999999999999999999% of humans reject that Baptism and that Name, the Name above 'ALL NAMES" they replace it wih jehovah or yahweh, the names of satan in this earth….see!!!

              Do not worry about the other people worry about you, then!!! go ahead and try to help anyone who wants to be helped…otherwise, let them get to their destination….it is written, most of them have Jesus blessing already to spend eternity in HELL..through that "DELUSION", He has put on their eyes and heart (2 Tess. 2:3-12) and!! There is nothing you or I or an angel can do…..

              I have to go and start the daily praying service, I hope we can continue talking, you have a "BIGGY ONE" Brother…if you know about the Immanence and Trancendence of the God of the bible The HOly Spirit Named Lord Jesus, you have 50% done and gained….do not let that go…no matter what satan say to you through humans….

              God Bless………………Brother James

              99.9999999999999999999999999999% of humans never discern what the bible says they only read (And I myself was one of those for over 50 years) but the "SAVING FAITH, THE HOLY FAITH" has to be showed through The Understanding and knowledge and acceptance of the Oneness of the God of the bible, and THE KEEPING OF HIS LAW (The Ten Commandments) not just uttered…no, no, no, no, no, No Believe in His Oneness or acceptance, No acceptance and Keeping of His Holy Law….No "TRUE FAITH" (Gal. 5:6+2 John 6)..see!!!! They only "BELIEVE", The Word FAITH belongs to "JESUS" ONLY…this separate the true Christian from the wannabe or wishy-washy person who can utter the whole bible by memory, yet!!! he/she serves satan….although he/she doesn't know, never will, till the day of WRATH is here….I feel so bad for those people who are really praying and singing and give their money (Although Christianity doesn't asks for the 10% or 1 %) >>>Unless there is some rational way to unlock the revelatory (spiritual) claims so that reasonable people can examine them and say, ‘Oh yes, there is a revelatory action’, the responsible position is skepticism toward spiritual claims, is it not>

      • Ty

        “But, if you’re ever still looking, I’d be happy to introduce you :)”

        Oh please. So YOU’RE the lucky one with the correct definition of true Christian? The arrogance hiding in that statement is fairly breathtaking.

        Oh, and John C is the one who knows what real Christians are. Everyone knows that.

  • Custador

    She can fall to her knees and worship my idol anytime :D

    • Question-I-thority

      as if :)

  • Michael Nietzsche

    I called her number: 1-800-338-3030 several times this morning…. to ask her to plant her cute ass on my face! She keeps turning me down!!!! ;-( What do I do now Geebus?

  • Len

    I like the post office box number shown on the website: PO box 1. Must be some divine influence there :-)

    I don’t care what she might or might not have been in the past, she can get on the back of my bike any time. And I’d even happily discuss the bible with her (yes, I actually can).

  • Siveambrai

    Sorry but I can’t tell exactly from the article… did she actually do porn? As in pornographic films where she has sex? If she was just a stripper she’d still be a sex worker but not a porn star.

    • rodneyAnonymous

      She is allegedly a former porn star.

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        Proof?

        I kid.

        • Phrankygee

          A google image search (with “safe search” turned off, strictly for academic purposes… ahem..) revealed a video entitled “Teacher’s Pet” in which our hero appeared to be bent over a desk on the business end of a penis. So, yes.. Porn star, not just stripper, or model, or “playmate”.

          I will gladly do this research so that you all don’t have to. It’s my cross to bear.

          • http://none Shad

            It would be nice to have an actual list of the adult films she’s appeared in.

            You mentioned one, the article had two others (under the distributer’s title).

            So that’s:

            “Teacher’s Pet” (link to photo you mentioned please) – possibly a different studio.

            Videos mentioned in the article (that don’t specify she was actually in them):
            “Backdoor Diaries” (unknown if she appeared in it)
            “Heidi’s High Heeled Hookers” (unknown if she appeared in it)

            Several titles are revealed under the distributor name of “Barbie Bridges Entertainment” which is found at the internet adult film database:
            http://www.iafd.com

            Barbie Bridges Entertainment:
            http://www.barbiebridgesvod.com

            Personally I don’t care if she appeared in porn. What I care about is her repeated denial about it. Remember, “Thou shalt not lie.”

          • http://none Shad

            This may be another:
            “Picture Perfect Seduction” by Vivid Productions
            as documented in her divorce settlement which she wanted to have shelved.

      • Custador

        Proof?

        No seriouslt. I love the pr0n!

        • rodneyAnonymous

          If you want proof that Barbie Bridges is a porn star, you can find it without me :) If you want proof that Melissa Scott is Barbie Bridges, I can’t help.

  • chuck vonderahe

    sorry folks,

    I’d still bang her !!!

  • Mark D

    just another con artist. maybe the people at TMZ can dig up her past.

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  • Jim

    Wow! Someone turns their life completely around and preaches the good news of Jesus Christ? Imagine that.The nerve of someone telling others that they can turn their life around too.I’m just glad that us perfect people have a place to vent and point fingers at those that have broken addictions to porn,alcohol,drugs,etc. It’s the message,people, not the messenger.Bottom line – we’re all sinners – I’ve yet to meet a perfect person. The most flawed one I’ve ever seen stares back at me in my bathroom mirror.

    • Dawn

      Good point. Reminds me of something Mark Twain said in regards to the Bible,”Widely praised and hardly read”. I wish people would stop talking about religion and just read the book. Block out any preconcieved ideas you have or been told and just read the book.Start in the New Testament. Start in the Old Testament. Proverbs,Pslams. Start anywhere. I was raised in the Catholic religion but it wasn’t until I started to read the Bible that I realised that a lot of the things I was taught weren’t even biblical,they were man made. I found out that no matter what I’ve done that God will never stop loving me and that Jesus died for my sins.Oops,spoiler alert. Anyway,it’s a great read. I would encourage everybody to just read it for yourself.

      • Ty

        I bet I’ve read the bible more times than you have.

        And it’s still a load of bollocks.

        Oh, and Mark Twain ridiculed religion pretty much constantly. The quote you have above is making fun of religious people, not pimping the greatness of the bible.

      • Jabster

        “And it’s still a load of bollocks.”

        Straight to the point and oh so true.

  • Jon

    The author should be ashamed. Who are you to cast stones? Are you sinless? I doubt it. God bless Pastor Scott! She is one of the best on the airwaves and any Christian should be able to discern the good nature of her message. Lets not forget Jesus came for the sinners not the righteous! That is assuming she was even a porn star in the first place…slanderous tongues create a divided house.

    • Ty

      I’m sinless. Since, after all, sin is an entirely made up concept and one that I don’t subscribe to. I’m also immune to voodoo, in case you were wondering.

      Once you can provide any evidence that Jesus came at all, then I’ll pay attention when you make assertions about what he came for.

      And a house divided against televangelists is a thing to be much hoped for.

  • Turnerash

    You know what? I am a pastor. I preach every Sunday and every Wednesday. I never approved of her husband. But I believe this woman is legitimate. She preaches the truth and does not give a concern for popularity. I am a Calvanist, she is an Armenianist. But I do believe she understands Greek and Hebrew language and seeks to give the true interpretation of the Holy Scripture. Please do not stereotype this woman. If she was seeking popularity and riches she would conduct herself like the other TV Evangelist. She is not about itching ears, but preaching from her heart. That is what counts. So back off you critics. Please. Stop acting like a bunch of hungry senseless sharks.

    • Francesc

      “She preaches the truth”
      Good to know what is the truth. And it must be the truth as she is “preaching from her heart” and
      “That is what counts”.

    • Ty

      As a Calvinist, you must surely know that we criticize her because that’s god’s plan for us. Who are we to defy the will of god?

  • John

    For a bunch of folks that call themselves secularists or non believers, you spend an awful lot of time musing about what you find to be nonsense. Says more about you than the “hypocrisy” you supposedly expose.

    • http://avertyoureye.blogspot.com/ Teleprompter

      So are you saying that we shouldn’t spend time criticizing things which we find to be nonsense?

      That’s nonsensical.

      • Ty

        Especially when that nonsense is so widespread, and has such an impact on people’s daily lives.

        • Ty

          For the record, I am equally vocal against homeopathy, anti-vaxxing, and moon hoaxers. Nonsense in all forms must be fought.

  • http://facebook.com/r3volutionjybliss Matthew Smith

    I would think that having been a porn star would be a PLUS for her testimony of now being out of that lifestyle. I mean, it would make for excellent television and media attraction to see if her ministry is legit. but maybe she doesn’t want that kind of attraction. whatever the case, I admire her. I will be sure to catch her next time I see her on. :)

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  • http://hesspartacus.wordpress.com/ He’s Spartacus

    The poor girl’s clearly unhinged.

    So ridicule her for being a space cadet. Exposing her pornstar past merely weakens your argument.

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  • Tim Rigney

    Two points I’d like to make:

    Melissa Scott has NEVER made any claims about what she does or doesn’t do with the money. Once people give her the money, it’s hers and hers alone. And similar to her past -
    IT’S NONE OF ANYONE’S BUSINESS AT THAT POINT.

    In a similar vein, she’s said FLAT-OUT that she feels that this is a service which she is providing which she expects to be paid for. Whether she is correct in that philosophy is irrelevant – the people giving her the money have chosen to agree with her, and to pay her for this service.
    Considering this person’s capabilities, I think we should consider ourselves lucky that this is all she’s doing. At worst, in my opinion, these behaviors could be called “mischievous.” And really – listen to the message, not who the messenger is. The message really is quite extraordinary. It’s a whole different ball game when someone of her intelligence level “gets into the game.” And – she’s *TRYING* to change. Sounds familiar. ;-)

    By the way, I also think it’s silly for someone to claim that she doesn’t speak multiple languages. For crying out loud, she puts it right up there on the board almost every time,
    in writing. If it was gibberish somebody would have “outed” her a long time ago. And as for whether the I.Q. level is true or not – just watch her. It’s obvious.

    As for where she’s really at in her soul – - – That’s strictly between her and God. And they’re the only ones who can ever know such a thing. And – again – it’s none of our business.
    Why can’t we simply be thankful that she MIGHT be saved? Shouldn’t that supercede everything else by a mile? And then we can also be thankful that WE might be saved.

    • Jabster

      “And then we can also be thankful that WE might be saved.”

      Saved from what exactly?

      • Tammy Parton

        It is our job to make sure ANY ONE teaching or preaching is lining up with the truth, anyone can talk the bible,for satan knows the word inside out. but the bible says we will know them, the ones of true faith that is, by there fruit, it is our buisness and job to decipher who is and who is not of the household of God, many will say Lord Lord did we do all these THINGS in your name and he will say depart from me…..I NEVER knew you. It is also our job to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling, keeping in mind to take heed when you think you stand…least you fall.
        I like the end of the article about giving all you have to the poor. If they dont have a love for money then just give it away, after all we came into the world with NOTHING and will surely leave the same way. When we face God what will he say? Well done or depart from me, I never knew you. just food for thought.

        • Tim Rigney

          Sorry, but this is sheer nonsense.
          Our “job” is to “Judge not lest ye be JUDGED.”

          2,000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying that it would be interesting if people try to be nice to each other for a while JUST for a change, people are still judging the messenger rather than listening to the Message. Jesus wasn’t sent casually – this New Testament was the LAST Testament. It’s all there in the Bible. It’s not God’s fault if people aren’t getting it and are continuing to judge others with a “Holier than thou” attitude.

          “THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST AND THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST.”

          • Jabster

            “2,000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying that it would be interesting if people try to be nice to each other for a while JUST for a change,”

            Unless they happen to be non-believers or gay then they can burn in hell. Such a message of love don’t you think?

            • Elemenope

              Don’t forget, a house divided against itself…is riddled with demons, or something!

      • Tim Rigney

        Ourselves.

        OH, and eternal damnation.

        • Jabster

          … ah I see the old threaten a non-believer with hell trick; how exactly do you think that is supposed to work. Maybe you could quote me some bible passages as well?

  • Len Fulmer

    This is the worst crock of B.S. I have ever seen. The telling of lies is one thing, but to besmirch Pastor Melissa Scott character is beyond me. The only thing you guys right was the spelling of her name.

  • andrew

    I’ve tried to watch the good Pastor. No two words in a row make any sense. Am I stupid? Must be because so many of you have written to support her.

    As to her being a porn star, I just can’t believe it. She appears about 5′ 6″ and weigh about a hundred pounds. There is just nothing there to there that would be appealing on-screen unless one is into eating dissorders.

    As to her being a pastor. I can find nothing about where she studied or who ordained her or her late husband.

    Speaking of Pastor Gene and his credentials. His PhD was from Stanford but had nothing to do with religion. Why did his on-screen name always indicate PhD, Stanford? Have you ever seen anyone else indicate where they earned thier degree? Of course not, it was a lame attempt to align himself with that famed university and lead viewers to assume he was professionaly associated with it. Can’t remember, does Melissa claim to have a PhD? If so, where was it earned?

    On some level I am pissed with myself for taking the time to write this. She and he are and were BS. Indeed I am sorry for those taken in and throwing away good money.

    Love to all.

  • http://none Shad

    (Correcting an html error on my original post)

    The article of Melissa (Pastore) Scott can still be read in Marie Claire’s online flash version of the magazine:

    http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=408455264&o=int&prev=si&p=111

    and the online version of the story:

    http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/latest/melissa-scott-porn-pastor

    What I find particularly disturbing is when attempting to get any sort of information on Wikipedia about her, her page has been removed and summarily redirected to her widow Dr. Eugene Scott:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Scott_%28pastor%29

    The discussion concerning the deletion can be found here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_March_22 (which you have to click on ‘show’ to read the reasoning behind removing it from Wikipedia). You would think that removing parts of the article would prevail over that of an entire deletion of the article.

    An excerpt from someone attempting to get the article reinstated on Wikipedia:

    Comment – See above — the result of the vote was KEEP. There seems to have been a mistake in the deletion of the article because I can find no discussion leading to a Delete vote. You state that “editing” might be used; however, in case you haven’t checked the page does not allow that, and in fact states “This page has been deleted, and protected to prevent re-creation.” All the comments below notwithstanding, it remains extremely embarrassing that a major encyclopedia would not have contain an article or, in fact, any information about this individual who is constantly on national TV–and, in fact, ban such information. That isn’t the stamp of a “free” encyclopedia, it’s more indicative of the efforts of a small group of delete-page-regulars mandating content (or lack thereof) for the WP community as a whole, and the world. This bad decision cannot stand. Badagnani 17:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

    Self-taught theology indeed raises an eyebrow. The fact that she fails to identify her formal education or training in theology is decidedly troubling. Going to the extreme measures to remove information about her past from the internet is very disturbing.

    I can’t help but think of several other religious historic con jobs like the following:

    Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner

    The documentary:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-178629120699935619

  • Mike

    Ever get one of those feelings that something just isn’t right? On occasion, I’d catch a few minutes of her on late night while channel surfing. Whenever I saw her, I couldn’t help but think that there was something very wrong with this picture. For me, two and two certainly didn’t add up to four, so I spent a few minutes looking her up on the web and came out knowing not much more than before. Her bio only states that she was married to and was ordained by Gene Scott, and I find the “ordination” by her husband interesting, and that she was now the pastor of a church in LA. Multimillion dollar operation? Based on what I see, that ‘Cathederal” looks like a Gothic scene out of a “Batman” movie. Her accompanists look like some rag-tag bunch of musician wannbees and it seems to show that her “program” is sparsely attended. You’d think that her notoriety would at least get her a full bio in Wikipedia, but it doesn’t. Why are her background and scholastic achievements conveniently missing? Seeing some of the stuff I see written about her possible past leads me to believe that there is a viable and hidden reason for the scant bio.

  • Wayne Heckert

    Melissa’s whole act focuses around hyper-analytical interpretation of specific Greek and Hebrew words. Very detailed, scholarly appearing, and authoritative, but most unconvincing to true textual scholars. For starters, read “Misquoting Jesus,” a brief history of biblical script. Clearly explained is that there are more versions and shards of versions of biblical writ in existence than there are words in the new testament. Pastor Scott is the only one who is certain she has the right one.

  • Me

    I got to tell you that I read all that you said about Pastor Melissa Scott and even believed what you said about her briefly. I sincerely apologize to Gods servant Pastor Melissa Scott for my brief but real misjudgement of her. I have been saved for the greater part of my life by the grace of God, the shed blood, the great sacrifice, the obedience of a Son to His Father and because God choose me from the foundation of the world to accept Jesus Christ as my Savior.

    I know the bible well enough to know that Pastor Melissa Scott indeed knows what she is talking about and it is not feeding people a bunch of gibberish. You have to know what the bible says to follow her sermon or you will think that it is gibberish. She does not fill you in on all the details of what she is saying because she covers a lot of ground in a very sort amount of time. You have to be able to fill in the blanks with your own understanding of the bible.

    God used women all through the bible to accomplish His will. Make no mistake that if God did not want her in the position she is in that she would not be their. Stay on the right path and pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ to help you with your problem toward Melissa Scott. He will take care of things and he does not need you to accomplish this for Him, He is quite capable. Those who judge will be judged and those who forgive much will be forgiven much. I forgive you for what you have written about her and yes, you do need my forgiveness. You have briefly been a big factor that caused me to sin against God and His servant Melissa Scott. He says to love your enemies and I have got to tell you I do not see any love in the way you are going about this. It is more of an attack that is characteristic of satan not the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ.

    I have gone back to watching Pastor Melissa Scott with the help of my God through His Spirit that is in His Son Jesus Christ and who is in me. I have prayed for you and I hope that you will get back on the right track. All the people God used in the bible had issues of one sort or another and I’ll bet that you do too.

  • http://google trplz

    I have read most of the comments posted, throughout which the conversation deviated into several discussions. This is my opinion, and only an opinion.

    a) I can’t fully trust the credibility of this article especially when the source happens to be a playmate…although I do think some playmates may posses intellect (hopefully)…I have seen the show “Girls Next Door” and although I am highly entertained by this show, I can’t be lead to believe that they posses any sort of real accreditation.
    But Playmate Elke Jeinsen told Gretchen Voss otherwise, in this month’s Marie Claire. Dr. Gene entertained Penthouse Pets and such at his ranch, and Melissa “was there, always dancing for Doc topless, showing her tits right away
    Who is this Elke Jeinsen and how can I be assured she is not being paid for her statements…and even if the pastor Scott was a porn star…most people have pasts, and have a lifetime of opportunities to change their lifestyle.
    b) Regarding the amount of money pastors get paid… was this a remark about:
    1. All pastors
    2. Pastors of this certain doctrine
    3. Pastors on television
    4. Pastors of all doctrines
    Whether they get paid or not….its up to the person who wants to pay them…if people choose to pay because they value the service well its up to that person.

  • Dani

    Obviously the editor, Lorette C. Luzajic, you have never watched her show… She speaks multiple languages on just about every one of her tv lessons. Do your research better next time!

  • Love Is Real.

    Wow!…So maybe you’re right but the only person that needs to be concerned about that is Melissa Scott herself. I do believe in God and so what the truth is about anybody(good or bad) is their own problem. We all fall short we are human beings not God; forgiveness to ourselves let alone to others is hard at times but is necessary in order to move forward without a scratch of bitterness,distrust or whatever the problem may be so forgive and let go. If you don’t believe in God that’s fine, then what’s the big crusade for?why try so hard to convince everyone about something that doesn’t even exist? If you’re right then there are no consequences to what anyone believes be it Christian,Jewish,Atheist etc. What would be the big deal about believing in “nothing”? And if so many Christians are hypocrites then what exactly are you doing? I guess that just makes us all human striving for some answers, some direction.What is wrong with that?. As a Christian I stand firm in my beliefs if I should judge anyone then that judgment returns back unto myself.(Matthew 7:1-5) If Melissa Scott is in it for the wrong motives in your case it won’t make that much of a difference anyway but if on the other hand if God is real (which is my belief) then she’s going to have to answer to the only one fit to judge and there is nothing you or I can do about it. And so to sum it all up…either nothing happens at all or it’s none of our business anyway because we should only be concerned with ourselves and what we have done with this life and the calling that has been placed upon us. Maybe you should really stop and think about what it is that drives you to hate and want to tear down.
    “6 Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.” (Isaiah 55:6-7)
    Note: If I were to keep my focus on everyone Christian,Jew,Human,Alien… whatever you believe or whatever you are then why bother serving God? and so my focus stays on God because that is who I choose to serve,worship and live for. God bless you or not…you are loved anyhow. :)

  • http://none surfkrow

    I have been a khof sense 89′ and am of the opinion that Dr.Gene Scott set the record straight on many religious issues. He restored a healthy respect for Christian leadership as well as returning a failing church to faith. He monopolized the government straight out of the churchs liturgical activity, preached the gospel uncompromised to the whole world He restored worship to its rightful place and brought communion as a table of grace not guilt into the homes of many. I have no doubt in my mind that he was Gods man for this hour . To the best of my knowledge PMS was entrusted with keeping his voice going (like the followers of james vernon mcgee did) What happened??? Her own words were “if anyone else had takin over they would have increased and he (Dr. Scott would have decreased) I paraphrase but that’s the just of it. Since then she has moved to the forefront and accept for a few hand picked messages he is virtually gone from the internet and shortwave, this is suspicious. Also, she’s cleaned his act up (so to speak) of the handpicked messages that you do get of Dr.Scott, none depict the controversial Domata at his best. He used to say send me all the sinners in town you don’t have to change to come to Christ, act in faith and God does the changing for ya . Now it reeks of second generation imitation despite the lip service she gives grace. Dr. Scott railed against the self-rightous and hypocritical church at large and clearly aligned himself against it. That line has been blurred. Dr. Scott once lamented that true teachers of Gods word were treated as outcasts until they died then those that in life were against them would come in and saint them, then steal their messages and stamp their own watered down image on it leaving it seventy ways from Sunday (that’s the just of it) and it makes me sick! Am I not seeing that with my own eyes? Heres the clincher , She does an interview and the question is asked are you barbi bridges, did you ever do porn ? Her answer is, “ No. If I start defending that then what else do I have to defend?” Huh? That infers shes lying…. Scripture says “shun the very appearance of evil ” NOT HIDE IT! And how bout defending “that the truth of the gosple might continue with you”? She says i’de rather teach a few the right way for the right reasons than many for the wrong reasons. well she had her chance to show what shes made of and it Reeks of a compromised man pleaser. As far as “what else do i have to defend?” Could it be that she would have to defend why a porn site under the name of barbie bridges is still up solicting buisness as usual? hey this is speculation that she has allowed to fester because of her shady response! Makin money on both sides of the street? Dr. Scott never backed down from controversy. “Its none of your business what motel I visit” he would say but lie ? no way … Dr. Scott was live on the festival of faith. The man early on put in 3 to 11 hours a day on the festival of faith (Hard WORK!) as for her maybe 2 hrs on sunday night if that. And she critisizes why attendance is down (just smaks of hypocricy) and this is just one of many reasons. How about she sucks as a teacher? She may be able to fool the newly gullible and pass of Docs teachn as her own divine revelations but us “OLDTIMERS see through the crap! And the faithfull are tired of being brow beatin over giving ? Very vampiric in my opinion. Dr.Scott spoke to issues of the day you always knew right where he stood on issues from the war in the gulf to televangelists and their ridiculous hypocracy and everything in between. PMS claims to herald a reformation , In my opinion Dr Scott Was the best representative of Christ sense the apostle Paul and was Gods man for this hour the proof was in the teaching and that’s virtually gone now thanks to her… in this age of technology his voice could still be beaming round the world 24/7 any and all used to be able to find his life giving words/messages of Christ but its not any more As Dr. Scott used to say “stop at the common sense gestalt” somthins wrong here!! This PMS syndrome hyjacked the intent of the Domata an left “70 ways from sunday! At best I think she is deluded at worst just plain evil. I suspect that SATEN COULDN’T STOP Dr. Scotts voice from goin out to the world so he found a way to compromise it through a woman that seems to have rationalized herself blind into thinking she has an unction so as to justify her own greed and pride End result “Teaching to the expense of the life of the spirit”. and a return to hypocricy .

    • Daniel Florien

      Your mind would be in an interesting place to visit.

      • Jabster

        LSD isn’t that expensive …

  • erleclaire

    And Lorette C. Luzajic is who? If someone was a porn satar, druggy, and God nows what, but comes to salvation, then that is enough. If Scott is corrupt then let’s see the evidence, photos, sworn tesimoney etc……..

    • wazza

      I believe the amount of money she has, being supposedly a pastor, is enough to show that she’s not following what is outlined for the path of such a person.

  • WORKMAN NOT ASHAMED

    ……………..WOMEN BE SILENT IN ASSEMBLY & DO NOT SPEAK GO HOME & ASK YOUR HUSBANDS FOR KNOWLEDGE LEST YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTHS & EXPOSE THE SHAME OF YOUR NAKEDNESS IF THEY SAY THEY KNOW ME & WILL NOT KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, THEY ARE A LIAR & THEIR IS NO LIGHT IN THEM ALLEGED BEAUTY IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER IS ONLY SKIN DEEP BUT A LIAR GOES THROUGH TO THE BONE YHWH CALLS HER A LIAR A SCRIPTURAL LIAR SHE IS AS SUCH MAY YAHWEH BE GLORIFIED THROUGH HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON YAHSHUA HALLELUYAH HALLELUYAHWEH PAISE YHWH

    • Ty

      Crazy man is crazy.

  • Lamar Jensen

    I used to work for University and saw Melissa write many letters in more than 20 languages using Google Language tools. I’ve done it myself a few times and it’s an easy chore and does not require a doctorate of any sort. I left University when I realized that her board drawings were nearly identical to ones that Gene did from early video. Melissa is simply following in Gene’s footsteps… literally.

  • oxygen

    Pastor Melissa Scott is one of the most beautiful women in the world! You will have a hard time finding a woman like that these days. If I was a man I would marry her in a heartbeat! She speaks 20 languages, and maybe the greatest teacher on the face of the earth…

    • Daniel Florien

      PRAISE HER ALL YE HEAVENLY HOSTS!!!!1!

  • Greg
  • APRIL

    I one of the Bible verses state “jugde not ye be jugde ” and ” them with out sin cast the first stone” I believe that everyone has sinned so who are we to judge anyone Jesus forgave everyone so we need to forgive and move on if this gossip is right. Jesus preached LOVE not Hatred
    also remember no sin is greater then the next except bleasmeny the Holy spirt

    • Sunny Day

      “I one of the Bible verses state “jugde not ye be jugde ” and ” them with out sin cast the first stone” ”

      Your religion is the one that invented this supposed affliction you call SIN so you can sell me some magic jesus to cure it. Since I know all your beliefs and holy spirit are bullshit I am without sin.

      According to your scripture babbling logic I’m free to throw however many goddammed stones I want.

      Thanks.

  • Brother James

    Hello There. Peace of Christ.

    Melissa Scott is no different than the pope or Joel Osteen in female nature….she is a devil servant as it is 100% of all so called protestant pastors who are nothing but catholics dressed as christians, she is a Lawless person, a Oneness Rejecter, a Holy Sabbath-Day Rejecter, etc. etc. all the Holy Things of the God of the bible she trashes, and avoids teaching….How do I know that?!!! I was one of them for over 50 years…..her voice is awful when it comes to singing, her teaching is cunny, she uses aramaic and greek and Hebrew to disguise the holes of her preaching, she enchantes the people with her mumble-jumbo…I watch her often to learn how the devil is doing..what is new with satan…as I watch other preachers, all Lawless…they do not even see that….they are like the Lawless men predicted by Paul, their mind is in the power of satan, of course she will never know that, due to her “Proud Nature”….I feel sorry for her, I wish she could give me 30 minutes with her in front of her people..that is all I need to make her know (if possible) since all the people under satan’s influence reject all Godly persons or things……

    She seems nice and sweet, but she ain’t beautiful at all…..anyway she does a heck of a job for her master satan….I’ll give her credit right there…..

    God Bless…………….Brother James

    • Kodie

      since all the people under satan’s influence reject all Godly persons or things……

      That’s pretty far-fetched rationalization of why people don’t like you.

  • michael

    We will never know her true sole only God knows and that is true for all of us. I am glad she is spreading the word and pray her intentions are good. If she helps just one person I support her efforts. Pray for her and her church that they continue to do good deeds and stay on the straight and narrow. No man or woman is perfect but I am sure she knows what God expects of her whether she does it or not.

    • Kodie

      We will never know her true sole

      Only her cobbler knows for sure!

      • Jabster

        … beat me to it but i was going for was it dover or lemon?

        • Kodie

          Only her fish-monger knows for sure!

          • Jabster

            Maybe Michael got a bit confused and actually believes in Cod …

  • Brother James

    Hello All there. Peace of Christ.

    Pastor Melissa Scott is just another poor victim of “Her’ weak heart as it is with 99.999999999% of all persons who claim to be Christians, and are not, never were, never will be according to the bible…No Lawless person will inherit the Kingdom of God…1 Cor. 6:9..So there
    I understand her female instinct too….all female love to be attracted to men, and she trys hard to do that, but as a bible educated person she gets a ONE from me….I don’t care what she was or did before she appeared in that forum, what she did is this: “Satan transformed into a better worker for him”, which is the Number one of satans tricks….Joel Osteen is the Male part of satan’s decepcion, Melissa and Osteen are part of the New People of satan’s army to keep the people going into hell;….Rev. 12:9…I was in there for over 57 years, so! I know…..I feel sorry for her, very, very sorry…..as I feel for everyone walking that path:

    There is a path that LOOKS GOOD TO MEN but in the end “IS DEATH”. Prov. 16:25..”ALL” so called Christian Pastors and Preachers are serving satan..although they do not know it…I know they are AWFULLY “SINCERILLY WRONG”, they all act loving and caring, but!! Really (They do not give a hut about the needy people) exactly what the bible says they would do…as I say..anyone who doesn’t Have the Law and the Testimony..isaiah 8:16,20 binded in their heart and in their mind is not a Christian, they belong to christenom the religion of satan, whith their god the trinity and the name jehovah, Lawless, baptized in “TITLES” and not in the Name above Names as Christ Commands Acts 2:38-40….

    She is good..she is good……Let him/her who “DOES EVIL” continue to “DO EVIL”, and Let him/her who is Holy continue to live in Holiness…the bible says: Rev. 22:21..

    I will pray for her….

    God Bless………….Brother James

    • Daniel Florien

      She’s not a REAL Christian, like Brother James. If only she believed the nonsense Brother James believes, instead of the nonsense she believes, then everything would be all peace of Christy. Praise Gawd!

      • Brother James

        Hello Daniel. Peace of Christ.

        That is so sweet of you!!!!!!! You just won a ticket to go to one her services, and learn or be part of it, or them….I smell jello in your head, instead of brains….that would be the right place for you to be….eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!..brother, brother, if you only knew?!

        God Bless………….Brother James

        • Daniel Florien

          Holy crap there is jello in my head?!? How can I get it out? I love jello and am hungry. Thanks in advance for your detailed instructions.

          • Brother James

            Hello Daniel Florien. Peace of Christ.

            You say >>>Holy crap there is jello in my head?!? How can I get it out? I love jello and am hungry. Thanks in advance for your detailed instructions<<<

            See!!! that is what happens with people like you, who have jello in their heads, they can not think, have no logic….I will help you, use your long tongue through your nose and suck it up to your mouth…see!!! easy…good luck…eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!
            eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, Danny boe, Danny boe….

            God Bless………………..Brother James

            • Roger

              This person is clearly mentally disturbed.

            • trj

              And – it would appear – also a stuttering Canadian.

          • Siberia

            Mm, jello brains.
            Zombies make a whole lot more of sense now.

          • beyonddeities

            I thought he was going to break out into a Lady Gaga song the rate he’s going at. Eh, ehhh~

        • Len

          I don’t know what you’ve been sniffing, but it doesn’t seem to be doing you much good.

  • lady29

    are you kidding me?! those pics don’t even look like her. and even if she did that in the past what does that have to do with her being a pastor now if she isn’t the same person she used to be? I think you people are just looking for a reason to try and tear her down. watch her show and get a clue she is smart and truly has an anointing.

    • JohnMWhite

      WE’RE just looking for a reason to try to tear her down? You’re the one digging back almost a year to complain about an article in a series looking at hypocrisy in well known persons of faith.

      • lady29

        hypocrisy? i’d say you knew what you were talking about if those pictures actually looked like her. besides if that were her past what has that to do with anything that she’s doing now? and articles like that aren’t looking at hypocrisy they’re looking for it.

        • JohnMWhite

          I don’t think you understood my comment about hypocrisy.

      • lady29

        John i disagree with you,because while it is true that the consequences are made by god aren’t all consequences made by someone else? the law,parents,teachers,etc.it’s like if your parents told you your whole life stealing is wrong and you once go and steal just to see what the big deal is and you realize that you did something wrong so you tell the person you wronged and your parents and they (your parents) punish you accordingly what they think is appropriate. now if you learn your lesson then you won’t get into any more trouble but if not and continue then eventually you’ll end up in prison. while toddlers are ignorant and unable to read adults are not.

        • JohnMWhite

          Not all consequences are made by other people. The laws of motion, cause and effect, etc. are natural and just happen. I push something, it pushes back. It’s how the universe operates.

          That sometimes consequences are constructed is irrelevant anyway. God doesn’t need to create hell. We are no threat to god, there is no imperative making him need to store people who don’t believe in him in a special, fiery container for eternity. While stealing has consequences because society has decided that if everyone went around stealing then we couldn’t function very well, not believing in god has consequences because god feels like it. It is entirely arbitrary and nothing short of egotistical.

          Besides, god’s punishment for not believing in him is not appropriate. Nothing a human can do can warrant that level of punishment. And what’s the point in learning anything if you are in hell for ever and ever?

          • lady29

            the point is if there is no god then there are no consequences for not obeying his rules, and not obeying his rules coupled with the fact that there is no relationship with him is the reason people go to hell. merely because if you don’t have a relationship with him you wouldn’t know his voice from satans and would end up lost.

            • Kodie

              The point is there is no afterlife. There is no lost. You have an imaginary friend and imaginary consequences to having a relationship with that friend. If that friend were a real person, and they felt like shunning you because you wouldn’t obey their arbitrary rules, you would say “to hell” with them! Believing in god and satan as having any consequence after you die is to abide by some unnatural laws you imagine have consequences by an imaginary person who doesn’t even exist and can’t put you in hell if you decide to do anything you want – even steal and kill or hate your parents or deny its existence.

            • lady29

              I don’t think his rules are arbitrary they’re for our own good. you’re right we feel hate the difference is we don’t hang on to it. we want to kill at times but we don’t because its not right. the same with stealing. when you were a kid didn’t your parents teach you first what is right and wrong? so if you have to be taught what’s right and what’s wrong? you can deny his existence all you want I believe he’s, there because to look at the universe in all its vastness and beauty and to think that all of it could come into existence on its own is impossible.

            • lady29

              as to finish my infinte question in my previous statement if you have to be taught right and wrong how does this sense evolve on its own?

            • Jabster

              “you can deny his existence all you want I believe he’s, there because to look at the universe in all its vastness and beauty and to think that all of it could come into existence on its own is impossible.”

              What makes you think it was you god that did it. For all you know you could be going to another god’s hell … are you prepared to take that chance?

            • Custador

              Tell me lady, are God’s rules good because God made them, or did he make them because they were good rules? What I mean is, if God made the rules and said “kill all the Jews”, would that become a good, moral rule because God said so? On the other hand, if God merely spelled out what was already inherently moral and good in a set of rules, then did we really need him to? Good people would still do good things if those things were good by their nature, right?

            • Kodie

              At some point I have to wonder why people think god is god and not satan. Like, if they have to pick a side and god says not to go with satan (source of all temptation to do against god’s will – but what good is even that?), but god is a dick, why they still say, well god is god, he’s the good guy obviously (he cares so much we stay out of satan’s grips).

              So when he’s being a dick, that’s ok, because he’s god. The mysterious creator of all things supposedly loves us and he wouldn’t be so strict if he wasn’t being a good parent-figure. If you had to choose between the two or neither, why people believe any of his promises of a heaven or hell situation, or nothing, people still buy him at his word, and not say sometimes, well, he’s kind of a dick and I’m not sure I trust that there’s a heaven or that it’s all that nice as it says in this book. No one’s ever come back to concur with this legend, so it’s all hearsay on this book.

              At least with real parents, you know, sometimes they punish you to keep you out of trouble or learn a lesson about life. But sometimes, they are just arbitrarily deciding if you come home before midnight, you aren’t crafty enough to get into trouble, or they want to get to bed and know you are safe in the house by an arbitrary time. 5 minutes late and you’re grounded doesn’t seem fair at all, and what do you learn from it? They could also bring you up right so they can sleep tight while you stay out as long as you want, and let you figure out that you’re going to be tired at school the next day and learn how to manage your time better.

              Comparing god to a parent-figure who punishes you justifiably for your own good doesn’t appeal to me. Parents are obviously fallible people who make stuff up that doesn’t have any teaching effect, so you learn to be more like these fallible people in the end or resent them. Once you are old enough to see things from their perspective, you can figure out which rules and consequences were valid and which ones were nonsense they made up to make themselves feel better or more superior. Ideally, they are completely wonderful and you grow up into a fantastic and responsible human adult, but not too uptight. However, this doesn’t justify parents’ behavior on the basis they are parents, and most parents fall short of ideal, and many do well enough not to leave permanent scars, but 100% I’m estimating, do something along the way that makes no sense objectively. Hopefully nothing harmful, but we can’t guarantee god is a perfect parent because he’s god, and we can’t say because he’s god, we have to follow what he says if we can objectively point out the flaws in his reasoning. His godness does not exempt him from objective reasoning – I mean, I don’t know why people give him more credit (or even human parents) for knowing what’s good for us and what his role is in steering us toward it. It’s just a book. Normal people grow out of the role of the child and maybe get some therapy to offset their parents’ imperfections, but they can go ahead with their own adult life. It is like you are taught about god, that no matter how old you grow, you are still a child subject to the whims of a parent figure, when objectively, you can see where your own parents steered you wrong – why continue to believe god has any authority over you likewise?

              If the irrational were being even slightly rational, rather than being “liberal” forms of Christian who ignore that god’s so much a dick and probably a liar, they figure so they better let him do what he wants and like it or else end up in that other place. None of that ever makes sense to me.

            • lady29

              being a christian or an athiest does not make one good or bad because ther is good and bad in all of us.yes I think he gave us these rules because they are good rules but I think he needed to spell it out because we aren’t born knowing right and wrong we have to be taught.

            • Jabster

              “I think he gave us these rules because they are good rules”

              Please explain why a good rule is unless you not only believe in me but also worship me you’re going to hell. What sort of screwed up morality thinks that this is a good idea?

            • Kodie

              But Lady29, some of those rules are so arbitrary. Whenever some parent decides “because I said so” is good enough, I wonder, what do their children learn? Once they are old enough to observe that the parent may not know what the heck they are talking about, their authority is diminished. This is not just rebellion, this is the child becoming an adult on their own terms. “Because I said so” is really a short term crutch that only works on small children. “As long as you’re living in my house, you’ll go by my rules,” well, I can’t argue with it exactly, but that is the sort of motivation to go out and find your own place so you don’t have to hear it anymore. Whatever rules there are may be good rules or they may be bad rules.

              Don’t run into the street! Good rule.
              Why? Because I said so. — teaches nothing.

              Don’t dye your hair blue. Arbitrary rule.
              Why? As long as you live under my roof… — there is nothing wrong with blue hair until you have to find certain types of work that don’t go for it. For a parent fears the child they love might get into an artsy field like it’s the end of the world, and do drugs, probably end up in the gutter because they wanted to dye their hair for fun.

              God’s rules, like don’t kill – good rule.
              Why? Because it’s one of the commandments.

              —??? Because it’s not nice, how about? Because you wouldn’t like to be killed. Because everyone gets to live and you should not take that away from another human being.

              God’s rules, like honor your mother and father. — Arbitrary rule.

              Why? Because it’s one of the commandments…. ?

              Parents are human beings who love you and may sacrifice and do their best but they also mess up and wing it and fly by the seat of their pants. In some cases, parents can be actively counter-productive to the well-being of their child and the development of that child into a productive adult human with their own mind and gears and inner thoughts and workings. They may say they are your authority and while you live in their house, to some degree, there is not much a minor dependent can do. God made this rule because? It’s nice to at least acknowledge people who probably didn’t have that much fun for about 20 years because of you, not as much fun as they could have had without you. But you never have to agree they know what’s best for you or do what they say only by the virtue they are your parents once you are grown.

              Have no gods before me — say what now?
              This is very arbitrary. This is like a parent saying don’t listen to your teacher. Don’t listen to anyone, don’t read a book, don’t have friends, don’t do anything without checking it by me first. Forever. Or else you’ll get a royal spanking. Don’t dye your hair blue, don’t listen to Elvis, don’t dance, don’t be gay, don’t go on a date without a chaperone, don’t drink alcohol, don’t get in the van with the man who says he lost his puppy.

              If you mix up the good rules and the weird arbitrary rules with the fix on “because I said so,” you have to be able to separate them into one pile that’s useful and one pile that really is not for your own good on some other basis – by having the sense “god” gave you to do it. If you believe in a hell that you really might go someday, you are living with the threat of breaking some unnecessary rules. You seem to have no way of determining for yourself which rules keep you safe and which rules have no consequences, because breaking any of them will end you up in hell. I’m really confused why so many grown-ups think god’s rules are for their own good, but the reasons are unknowable, but the threat of hell makes you not want to take a chance deciding what to do and what the consequences really are. Mature people do not think like this.

              For the record, to my crazy mom’s credit, she never said “because I said so,” she always said why something I wanted to do was a bad idea, and this made it easier for me to see where her logic was focused. If I wanted to ride my bikes out on the main road, she would explain that it’s harder for cars to see at that time of day (makes sense). If I wanted to wear torn jeans to school like everyone else, she said she didn’t want people to think she couldn’t afford to buy me new clothes (not “cool,” but illustrates a reason centered on her ego, that my actions have consequences to other people and their reputations, potentially — very helpful). “Because I said so” wouldn’t have helped me stay out of trouble. She also never said “wait until your father gets home,” or “if everyone else jumped off a bridge,” either. I could write a short book on clichés my mother never told me. (Don’t steal my idea!) (Commandment #8, just in case you were thinking about it.)

              If there were a god, he could learn something from my mother. If we are not born knowing the difference between good and evil, his explanation is unhelpful as a guide, so he might as well not have bothered. The fear of hell doesn’t bother me because I’m not inclined to believe it just in case, I’m not inclined to follow vague and arbitrary rules on the basis of some mysterious fella who calls himself “god.” The god you believe in spreads rumors of some heinous foe of his named satan, where god seems nearly as bad if not worse, but he makes promises and threats and grown people – GROWN UP HUMANS WITH BIG BRAINS – become little children about this story. Vestigial fear of the parental authority, controlled by a fantastical story with arbitrary rules through to the rest of your life with none of the common mechanisms grown people use to determine what consequences are fictional and what are useful to incorporate into your adult life.

  • fred

    i just wanted to say that i enjoy pastor melessa scot ministery servic and i think she’s a very beautiful women and i enjoy listening to her sing i watch her program all the time when it’s on tv she come on at 100 o’clock am and goes off at 150am im a christin i got bapitized on march 31 th and my picture taken in grace bapitist in royal oak on elmwood street every where i go people smoke and drink it’s hard to stay away from it what would you suggest to me how to avoid this smoking and drinking where i live i am a smoker but trying to quite becuz i got bapitize’s in jesus name and i want to stay true to him and god this is my problem i hope you understan pastor melessa scot.com

    • Kodie

      The key you’re looking for is right below the L and a little to the right.

    • Bill

      I call poe.

    • Brother James

      Hello Fred. Peace of Christ..

      I understand you brother I understand you…I worked for satan for over 50 years, satan loves to please his people (as you are pleases) that is why he has instituted women preaching…Christianity doesn’t allow that, christendom (The catholic church and her daughters the protestant denominations do) for the same reason….Daddy satan wants to keep his people happy….that is why Joel Osteen is in the field…The Pope, etc. etc…. enjoy your happines while you’re here following the teaches of satan through that woman…’cause there is a day for you and all satan’s people, when happines will be ever seen by them…so keep on trucking….enjoy here while you are in this world….

      May the God of the bible Lord Jesus Christ have mercy of you….

      God Bless……………Brother James

      • Daniel Florien

        Do you know if Satan is still hiring? How much does he pay? Can you give me a phone number? Thanks in advance!

        • Brother James

          Hello Daniel F. Peace of Christ.

          You say<<<>>>> eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh! it is people like you who makes the Lord Jesus cry….satan “OWNS YOU” and 99.99999
          99999999999999999999999% of the so called christians and catholics and the whole world…..I know, I know…you do not know that, you will never will till day comes…so!!!
          wait patiently for a rude awakening, I mean “A VERY, VERY” RUDE AWAKENING that
          will last “ETERNITY”…eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!….shameful, shameful, will be with her there…so!! why don’t you just start being friendly to her?!!!!!

          You say >>>How much does he pay?<<<>>>Can you give me a phone number? <<<>>Thanks in advance!<<<< No problem!!! My pleasure….anytime…

          God Bless and have a:
          Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day…Brother James

          • claidheamh mor

            The gobble of “loving” Christians everywhere:

            “You are in for such a big surprise/nasty shock when you die. We have to give up the good stuff in this life, but weíll get ours (the good stuff) when we die. You bad atheists get the good stuff now, but you will get YOURS (the really really bad stuff) when you die. And it will be FOREVER! And you will finally see I’m right when you get yours, bwaaaaahhaaahaahahaha….”

            It’s too convincing… I’m being saved… I feel the call to give my life to Jesus… I finally heard the word… another soul saved… I finally saw the light…I’m converting to Christianity… this true Christian was such a shining, hate-filled example of the Lord Jesus Christís pure hate… I feel it… it is so powerful… I’m shaking all over (or is that repressed laughter?)… I’m giving my life to Christ and spreading the word of his hate… this spiteful true Christian has finally made me see the error of my ways… I’m turning Christian…

            (Note for the obtuse: this sarcasm exemplifying the point that Bother James uses words like

            God Bless and have a:
            Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day…

            after saying some nasty hateful stuff.)

            • Roger

              The difference between you and “Bother James” is that I actually understood what you wrote. His “writing” is that of someone who is in desperate need of a pharmaceutical intervention.

      • lady29

        brother james where in the bible does it specifically say that women can’t preach? because I don’t think she’s going to hell at all.

        • Brother James

          Hello Lady. Peace of Christ.

          You say >>>brother james where in the bible does it specifically say that women can’t preach? because I don’t think she’s going to hell at all.<<<

          She is not going to hell because she is teaching, but for what he is teaching and for what she is not teaching….she teaches nothing but men made doctrines, contrary to what the bible says….she doesn't teach what the Holy Spirit says to teach, she is just like everyone who calls himself a protestant pastor or protestant bible teacher…The Foolies she says and the blasphemies she comits will be on her tab onjudgment day, that is why the bible says that the tongue will be your witnesses to be saved or not….she teaches the trinity..the trinity is the embodiement of satan, and the name jehovah is the name of satan in this world…she teaches Lawless, and teaches baptism in titles instead of in the Name of Jesus who was given to us humans for salvation, she rejectes is….etc. etc…..she is a lost case….I feel sorry for her, 'cause she thinks and believes she is doing good to the True Jesus….and she is not….she is serving satan who has come into her life as Jesus….as it is with everybody who claims to be christian…I served there for over 50 years, so I know…..

          Then the bible says this through Paul:
          As it is in all the congregations of the saints 1 Cor. 14:34 Women SHOULD REMAIN "SILENT" IN THE CHURCHES. They are not allowed to speak…If this is not enough for you or anyone else…..then!!! wait till you see the boss, because Paul was the apostle Jesus chose for us the gentiles……Satan favorite weapon is women….as it was with eve, then Mary, and now…..hundreds of women serve their master…..

          Now you tell me where does the bible says that a woman should be a pastor of the church of Christ?!!!….Go ahead…..

          God Bless and have a:
          Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Peaceful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day……Brother James

          • JohnMWhite

            Oh yes, that sounds very loving and peaceful.

            • Elemenope

              Haven’t you heard? The Peace of Christ is a sword quenched in blood.

            • Roger

              And it has 1337 haxxors!

            • Elemenope

              LOL!

            • Brother James

              [dumbass filter engaged]

            • Kodie

              @Botcher James – you seem pretty confident that you know what you are talking about, but your messages of love sound violent and that you have been dipped in a vat of stupid and confused to confuse everything with satan except what you have learned after working for satan for 50 years. There’s no satan, don’t worry about it. I don’t like that you appear to be some know-it-all, and you can’t even spell or make coherent sentences. For sure, nobody here is going to be sorry just because you said so, you don’t come off as an authority on much of anything. If there were a god and he said that people were tools of satan just to get you to listen to him, I would say he’s full of shit. I’ll say it to you, and I’d say it to my empty room where god is supposed to be. There’s no satan. Now please go put the pills on your tongue and chase it with a glass of milk. I know, cows are agents of satan. Just do it anyway, nothing bad will happen, I swear to god.

            • Roger

              I wonder what Bother James said that got the dumbass filter engaged…

            • Daniel Florien

              It takes a lot to engage the dumbass filter, but there was unusual amounts of dumbassness, even for a “brother.”

            • lady29

              I don’t know whether you’re a believer or not and im not trying to be preachy at all, I just want you to know that christianity really is peaceful and that jesus loves everyone.

            • Jabster

              “im not trying to be preachy at all,”

              Why is that statements like that are always followed by something that is the exact opposite?

            • lady29

              Jabster I wasn’t being preachy just stating a fact.

            • Elemenope

              Technically you’re stating a perception, which may or may not correspond with a fact.

            • Jabster

              @lady29

              Oh please, you were being preachy … jesus loves us all does he, well unless we don’t believe in him then we get to spend eternity in hell. Exactly what sort of love would you call this?

            • Elemenope

              Scary stalker love.

            • claidheamh mor

              Yep, she’s preachy. *And* incapable of distinguishing a statement about her own belief about her own state of mind, from a fact.

            • lady29

              @jabster well its true he does. its like if you’re a parent and you keep telling your kids no no don’t do that it’s not safe and if they keep doing what you told them not to, they’re not listening right? so there are consequences. the thing is to learn from them before it’s too late. his love is unconditional which means no matter what people do they can be forgiven.@elemenope lol. you’re kind of funny

            • JohnMWhite

              The consequences were created by god and are massively out of proportion to any sins any person could ever possibly commit in their finite lifespan. It would be like a parent leaving a note lying around for a toddler to read saying “don’t go into the kitchen” and having left a pot of boiling water over the kitchen door. It’s pure maliciousness and a very poorly executed warning system.

            • Roger

              @ lady29: Jesus–if he ever existed in the first place–is dead and is therefore incapable of producing the emotion known as “love.” What you may claim to love is nothing more than a set of teachings attributed to this person…your love the idea of Jesus and the ideals attributed to him. Furthermore, your inevitable claims about him being “alive” are little more than emotional affirmations about religious creeds and not at all about a being surviving an execution.

            • Jabster

              @lady29

              No his love is not unconditional … if you don’t believe in him you go to hell. How on earth do you classify that as unconditional?

            • Shad

              @ Lady29 and Brother James,

              Here is:

              Why Christianity Fails:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaQpRZJl18

              Why Satan is a myth:
              http://www.guba.com/watch/3000087824/The-History-of-the-Devil

              Why god is man made:
              http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8059991273314767024#

              Why you both are text book examples of religious pawns that spew vitriolic and fallaciously ignorant tripe, and the mythology you both love being deeply entrenched in that gives you some sort of self-worth.

              Introducing Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth:
              http://vimeo.com/4824510

              Now would you please stop being Internet Trolls, obtain a formal education that covers the basics of things you’re attempting to convey here, and quietly depart from a clearly non-believing forum before you continue to make even greater fools of yourselves.

              Start with reading some books:
              http://unreasonablefaith.com/a-reading-list/

              Here’s some other help for you:
              http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/

              As you depart, don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

              Praise ye oh mighty Ahura Mazda.

            • Brother James

              Hello lady21. Peace of Christ.

              You say >> I just want you to know that christianity really is peaceful and that jesus loves everyone.<<<

          • claidheamh mor

            @bother james: Now you tell me where does the bible says that a woman should be a pastor of the church of Christ?!!!….Go ahead…..

            Who *gives* a fuck whether it explicitly (versus implied in law) states that a woman “should” go after a certain career?

          • lady29

            You and I agree on one thing the trinity it is man made. but while the bible says that women should remain silent it also says that he gives gifts to everyone that includes preaching and everyone means everyone.

            • Brother James

              Hello Lady29. Peace of Christ.

              You say >>>You and I agree on one thing the trinity it is man made. but while the bible says that women should remain silent it also says that he gives gifts to everyone that includes preaching and everyone means everyone<<<

              Your problem (as it is the problem of billions) is your bible ILITERACY and your Bible Ignorance…..Christ is Yes or No….once He says He doesn't wants women speaking in the churches, He is not going to say somewhere else that they can….that is one of the points satan uses to keep human tied to him….Jesus says all over the bible that His Holy Day is the Sabbath-Day, the Sevent of the week, Jesus never says He abolished although He is the Law Giver, yet!! satan says the sabbath is the first day of the week not the seven, and!!! who do humans obey?!!! "SATAN"….so it is with the women preachers, Jesus says through Paul that a woman should be "SILENT" in church, yet satan says….No!! They must speak, not only speak but preach…..

              Well!! it is o.k they do that, because they are doining in christendom (The religion of satan, the people of satan) they do not do that in Christianity…we Have no women preachers in Christianity, why?!! 'Cause the God of the bible Lord Jesus=The Holy Spirit says "NO"….christendom obeys the first day sunday as their sabbath…it o.k….they have a 3 persons god the trinity and are baptized in the titles, it is o.k. for them who love and follow satan….it is no O.k For Jesus and His people, His Saints The Christians…..

              It is like those people blowing up themselves for Osama, even do they are americans, it is nor right for the americans, but since they serve Obama then they will do what Obama says….so it is with Jesus and satan…

              I hope some day you see the light and understand it, even if you do not want to accept it and obey it……I did….

              God Bless…………Brother James

            • lady29

              Brother james god is the final judge not man. and we don’t know what day god started creating the earth so how can we truly know when the seventhday is? that’s one of the things that we’re probably not meant to know. isn’t the sabbath a day when we take time to spend with god in his word?

            • lady29

              and you still didn’t answer my other question,

            • Kodie

              Are we really having this conversation?

              Neither one of you is a true Christian! There, it’s settled.

            • John C

              James, you’ve got some heavy religious mess going on there friend, and its always binding, is not liberating (where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty right?). Let me ask you, speaking of women, didn’t that same one (Christ in Paul) also say in Galatians 3:28 (speaking of those of us who have been baptized into Christ and have ‘put on’ Christ) that…’there is no longer Jew or Greek, slave or free, and no more male or female, for you are all one in Christ’. God/Christ is neither male nor female, but has attributes of both, this is partly what Paul refers to as ‘the mystery of marriage’. The female represents the soulical (emotions, etc) while the male represents the spirit, the ‘church’ is the ecclessia/ekklessia which is Christ’s spiritual body (his life in us), not a building or a denomination.

              Get free of the religious hangups, love is the only remaining ‘law’ and is higher, is above all rules, rituals, traditions, etc. Get out of the physical and see that ‘all are one in Christ, there is no more male and female’.

              All the best

            • lady29

              kodie although I respect your opinion on how the universe came into existence im irritated with you because you have no right to judge who is or isn’t a true christian.

            • Elemenope

              im irritated with you because you have no right to judge who is or isn’t a true christian.

              The point, I think, was that from an outside perspective, listening to two self-professed Christians argue over who is Christian-er is exasperating. Either Christianity is a very big tent with a large number of often-contradictory expressions, or it is a very small tent with a whole lot of confused people hanging around outside looking to squeeze in. Either way, from out here it seems like inside baseball.

            • Kodie

              @Lady29 – it just seems weird on an atheist blog to see two people debate what god wants from either of you, most especially since Brother James doesn’t seem to want to discuss anything when he’d rather point out where satan is afoot. MOOT! I didn’t mean neither one of you is a real Christian, I meant neither one of you are making any sense or any progress, so for all I care, you win. I just tossed a nickel in the air and it came down heads – you are the real Christian. If it had come down on the edge, I would have been forced to give the victory to John C!

            • lady29

              elemenope and kodie atheists love to look for hypocrisy in christianity so that they can sharpen their debate skills to make christians look like fools. I was simply arguing the womens role in the church not over who is more christian.

            • Kodie

              To be super-fair, being this is an atheist blog, not that you are not welcome to discuss things, but Christians tend to make themselves look like fools – I mean, being this an atheist blog, and most of us familiar with the “evidence” and “arguments” that “prove” something you cannot prove, or why you are dazzled by it, but not me. Brother James seems pretty far over into crazy town, so I don’t really see a debate over whether women can preach so much as you exhausting yourself over it to a guy who seems pretty certain (and incoherent) about everything he doesn’t like being the work of satan. He is not to debate seriously, but you can help make fun of him if you want. You can pray for him, I mean, whatever rocks you.

            • Sunny Day

              “sharpen their debate skills to make christians look like fools.”

              Don’t flatter yourself.

            • lady29

              kodie, while I think that bro james is judgemental i won’t be making fun of him everyone is entitled to their opinion. you say that gods existence can’t be proven but to me his existence is proven 1. by the scientific law that states that something cannot come from nothing. and 2. just by looking at the universe and nature in general. now thats my belief you can believe or not. I hope you enjoy yourself in your debates take care.

            • lady29

              sunny day I have a cousin with a cat named “sunny day” is your name jonathan?

          • lady29

            one more thing you said satans favorite weapon is women and mentioned mary, Mary who?

            • yahweh

              I think he meant Mary of Peter, Paul and Mary.

              I love it…..3 Xtians can’t even agree on what their sky-daddy said or didn’t say, on what he did or didn’t do. Nonsense, utter nonsense.

            • lady29

              yahweh do you agree with everyone you talk to christian or not? same principal here.

            • Jabster

              But surely they all dealing with the an all powerful god. I mean how much of an idiot is he if he can’t even get his message across clearly?

            • Daniel Florien

              God wanted to tell everyone which Christian was the real one, but he was too busy making earthquakes to pass the time.

            • Sunny Day

              You ever make an earthquake? Takes a lot of fine control.

            • Brother James

              Hello Yahweh. Peace of Christ.

              You say >>>>I think he meant Mary of Peter, Paul and Mary.

              I love it…..3 Xtians can’t even agree on what their sky-daddy said or didn’t say, on what he did or didn’t do. Nonsense, utter nonsense.<<<

              You are 1000000000% INCORRECT….We Christians "KNOW" for a fact what we believe otherwise we wouldn't be "Christians"…..your ignorance and fooliness makes you say that, which is the main thing the people of satan does….we know that, and let me tell you this…it bothers us none…..when the people of satan, says anything about us….it just make our faith stronger….thanks….I have been in both sides, so I know…

              God Bless……………Brother James

  • T.K.

    I’ve just seen Scott on TV for the first time and was very intrigued…and, sorry, I wasn’t intrigued because of the sermon which I found boring and couldn’t follow. I was intrigued because she’s so damn hot!

    Yes, I suppose I am a shallow man, but there it is.

    What I also find fascinating is her accent. Although her English is perfect, I am trying to decipher where exactly she is from. Here is what I’ve narrowed it down to. I think it’s one of the following and I think she was brought up in one of the following locations and then came to Los Angeles:

    1) Aruba;

    2) Quebec; or

    3) French-speaking Louisiana Bayou in which she didn’t learn English until she entered Kindergarten.

    Does anyone know where she is from originally?

    • Elemenope

      To me she sounds more like she’s from Fargo, North Dakota.

  • Anthony Bucci

    Needless to say, the first time I saw Pastor Scott, I was enchanted by her beauty. But then I listened to her message. Pastor Scott’s ability to break down the Bible and answer all of the questions I never had answered in Catholic school are remarkable. (If she doesn’t speak and write Greek, she’s doing a good job of faking it.) I was called a heretic and a blasphemer by the time I was in the fourth grade. Unfortunately, my teachers were intimidated by questions they couldn’t answer.
    I don’t hear anyone ridiculing John Madden, the ‘it could go all the way guy’ or other media symbols for their looks or their ‘pontificating’ about our new religious holyday, the Super Bowl. What about Jimmy Johnson doing the commercial for the penis enlarging product. Cut me a break!!!
    God has a sense of humor. If I had turned on the TV and found Pastor Scott’s deceased husband preaching, I would have kept clicking away. As I mentioned earlier, I found her attractive enough to keep listening. Then I heard the message. The questions I’ve had for a lifetime are being broken down in logical bits and pieces and answered. CSI: “The Word” I’ll paraphrase Herbert Spencer, ‘contempt prior to investigation.’
    Defeat gossip by ignoring it. Jesus had parables and the ability to reach people if they were willing to listen. It all comes down to faith.
    And finally, only one other ‘entity’ is more harassed than Jesus Christ – it’s satan. His best tool is in convincing someone that he doesn’t exist.
    To follow the teachings of Christ, I have no need to defend what I’ve written. I pray for the detractors that God grant them the grace He’s granted me – to look past the messenger so I can hear the message.

    • Brother James

      Hello Anthony Bucci. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>>>Needless to say, the first time I saw Pastor Scott, I was enchanted by her beauty. But then I listened to her message. Pastor Scott’s ability to break down the Bible and answer all of the questions I never had answered in Catholic school are remarkable. (If she doesn’t speak and write Greek, she’s doing a good job of faking it.) I was called a heretic and a blasphemer by the time I was in the fourth grade. Unfortunately, my teachers were intimidated by questions they couldn’t answer.
      I don’t hear anyone ridiculing John Madden, the ‘it could go all the way guy’ or other media symbols for their looks or their ‘pontificating’ about our new religious holyday, the Super Bowl. What about Jimmy Johnson doing the commercial for the penis enlarging product. Cut me a break!!!
      God has a sense of humor. If I had turned on the TV and found Pastor Scott’s deceased husband preaching, I would have kept clicking away. As I mentioned earlier, I found her attractive enough to keep listening. Then I heard the message. The questions I’ve had for a lifetime are being broken down in logical bits and pieces and answered. CSI: “The Word” I’ll paraphrase Herbert Spencer, ‘contempt prior to investigation.’
      Defeat gossip by ignoring it. Jesus had parables and the ability to reach people if they were willing to listen. It all comes down to faith.
      And finally, only one other ‘entity’ is more harassed than Jesus Christ – it’s satan. His best tool is in convincing someone that he doesn’t exist.
      To follow the teachings of Christ, I have no need to defend what I’ve written. I pray for the detractors that God grant them the grace He’s granted me – to look past the messenger so I can hear the message.<<<<<

      Read what the bible says:

      2 Cor.11:3 But I am affraid that just as "EVE" was deceived by the serpent's "CUNNING" your minds may somehow be lead astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ….

      See!!!! Paul was writting to Jews who were already came out of the falsehood (You still are in)….and I understand you, I understand you….that is why satan made the protestant denominations, to accomodate the catholics who were not happy with that church….she doesn't know anything about "Chtristianity", she knows 100000% about christendom the religion satan instituted through the catholic church, but she knows 0 "ZERO" about Christianity, as a matter of fact every word she speaks is a "BLASPHEMY" for the God of the bible Lord Jesus…..I know you do not see it, I understand…I spent over 50 years like you…till!!! The Lord put me in a chek mate….and took me for a ride into other dimention….when I came out of coma, and I learned that I was dead, so dead that I was sent to the morgue…..I understood everything, I understood why I uderstood the bible, why I understood so many questions I had as a catholic and as a protestant…..

      The job of satan is to trick people who allows him to do that….and he is the best for that…..I hope some day you call on the Lord and ask for a revelation….then you will see yourself, and what you believe as true…….is nothing but..an ilusion, false……..

      God Bless……………..Brother James

      • Anthony

        Brother James, thank you for your insightful words. I believe we all travel a different path to serve the Lord. Hopefully we all end up in the same place – with God. Everybody can’t be right, if you know what I mean. The comment I made about the attractiveness of Pastor Scott – the Lord has different ways of drawing us to His message. As for the money issue, many teachers and believers may have ulterior motives – or in this case overt motives. I’ve never seen or heard someone preach the Word of God who isn’t imperfect in some way. This opinion is in present tense. When I believe that I have all of the answers for everyone, then I’m playing God. As I said, “Don’t shoot the messenger.”
        Just an idea – since Pastor Scott does a live 24/7 Internet feed, stop the streaming video when she translates from Greek to our present day English. Open a separate window and go to Dictionary.com. The English word that translates from Greek usually has the origin of the word. Simply compare her translations to what is entered into the dictionary website. One can also use Google to translate into the language referenced. Of course. there may be some changes since there are different dialects that have altered the language changes over time, ie:, classical Latin, Middle Latin, etc.
        Pastor Scott does deliver what I believe is an excellent message which I find inspiring.
        The ‘televangelists’ talked down to their followers. Pastor Scott is instructional. I mentioned before, she breaks down in bits and pieces her primary point.
        God bless you and keep you , Anthony

        Btw, Mother Teresa (a woman) was probably the closest living example of the work of Jesus. Below are words attributed to her:

        People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered.
        Forgive them anyway.
        If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.
        If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.
        If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you. Be honest and sincere anyway.
        What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight. Create anyway.
        If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous. Be happy anyway.
        The good you do today, will often be forgotten. Do good anyway.
        Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give your best anyway.
        In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway

        • lady29

          anthony you are insightful. I feel the same way about the way pastor scott teaches

          • Anthony Bucci

            Just a paraphrase, for by grace are ye saved through faith and not of yourself, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest any man should boast….thank you for the compliment, I try and remain humble but self-righteousness is a constant battle for me…

  • http://none ray and samone

    THE BIBLE STATES THAT NO WOMAN SHOULD BE A TEACHER OR PREACH TO MEN…NO IF OR BUTS THE BIBLE SAYS….
    THE ROAD TO HEAVEN GOES THRU JESUS……..NO OTHER WAY….THE DEVILS OF THE WORLD KNOW THE BIBLE TOO……..THIS WOMAN SCOTT IS LEADING HER FLOCK ASTRAY…..PRETTY OR NOT SHE WILL NOT HELP SAVE YOUR SOUL WHEN JUDGEMENT COMES…….JUST A WORD OF ADVICE…..TURN FROM THESE PREACHERS……A CHRIST FOLLOWER AND A MAN….

    • trj

      You’ve totally convinced me, ray. With arguments as compelling as this, how can anyone possibly stay atheist. Especially when it’s presented by a man.

      • Paul

        Unnecessary bolding assigned…

        “The bible states that no woman should be a teacher…”

        So… we shouldn’t listen to our mothers?

        • Kodie

          She is supposed to get permission from your father!

          It is getting harder and harder each day for me to believe or understand why anyone thinks the bible is true and god is real.

  • Anthony

    Pastor Scott’s message has nothing to do with her appearance. Who am I to judge who is going to give me Jesus’s message. A follower of Christ wouldn’t attack someone verbally. They would pray for the person to find the message of Jesus without resentment and anger. If I’m correct, the only time that Jesus was angry was when he drove the merchants/money changers from the temple. EVERYONE (please excuse the flame) does not have the answer. It is self righteous of me to think that I specifically pass on THE correct message of love and forgiveness. The thing that drives me away from churches, ministries, so-called messiahs (I use the small letter ‘m’ intentionally) – everybody has THE answer. So who’s right? To know God’s will is to put myself on God’s level. That is blasphemy. I pray that God leads me down His path, and true faith is that He will not lead me astray. “Lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one who would take us from Your love oh my Father…”
    May God grant you the gift of discerment. Peace and love to all….

    • Francesc

      “If I’m correct, the only time that Jesus was angry was when he drove the merchants/money changers from the temple”
      According to the bible, that one wasn’t the only time
      http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Christianity/2000/05/Did-Jesus-Get-Angry.aspx

      Addressing the Pharisees Matthew 23
      Healing the Man with the Withered Hand Mark 3
      Rebuking Peter Mark 3
      Predicting the Passion Mark 8
      Cursing the Fig Tree and Cleansing the Temple Mark 11
      Blessing the Children Mark 10
      Curing a Demoniac Mark 1

      Most of them are from Mark. I wonder why…

      • John C

        That very thing you see as (holy) ‘anger’ in driving out the ‘merchants’ is the very same that would set you free, if allowed to. The merchants are us, and we ‘do business’ in his temple (also us), but not the ‘Father’s business’. JC saying ‘I must be about my Father’s business’.

        Who’s business are you about? That is the question, and the nature of our ‘business’ will determine where we do business….forever.

        • Kodie

          No it won’t.

          • John C

            G’morning, all the best to you Kodie-

  • http://prisonministry.net/one2one Stan

    I’ve watched her program several times and do not recall any attempt to solicit donations. If her speaking style offends then certainly don’t listen to her. I too think she talks much about few subjects/issues, but I do get a solid sense of understanding. Perhaps simplifying the message is responsible? It would be interesting to know if she was/was not an adult entertainer, but it has nothing to do with her work as a pastor and preacher. If she is entirely self-taught that is fine with me. I believe Christ was also self-taught. Before some of you jump on me for drawing parallels between her and Christ I was just using the most obvious example that came to mind. I am mostly self-taught and now an ordained minister. My conclusion about Pastor Scott is that I find her much easier to watch than most televangelists. No sappy props, just white posting boards. No pleas for money. No selling books and tapes. And I don’t care that there is no public prayer in her program. Prayer is, after all, an individual’s conversation with God and that does not need public display or a group participation.

  • Anthony bucci

    Let us assume Pastor Scott was an adult entertainer, she has apparently turned her life around – and it isn’t something that we do ourselves. It is only by the grace of God. Was Mary Magdalene a prostitute when she met Christ? The Desert Fathers (abba) and women (amma) who became hermits and ascetics were from all walks of life. It I’m not mistaken, many of the women were prostitutes before finding their new vocation.
    As for prayer, in the same chapter of The Lord’s Prayer, doesn’t Matthew talk about praying in private?
    Pastor Scott has talked for funding but not like televangelists. I don’t perceive her to be a hypocritical beggar. I think she quotes Paul (you might want to check that) and she says to be a ‘hilarious giver.’ She’s talked about tithing but not about giving any fixed donation.
    Pastor Scott does take a circuitous route to prove her point. I find it enlightening because she does touch on many points of scripture but I find that a good thing. Her reasoning isn’t backed up by just one piece of scripture but many.
    Stan, thank you for your input. What I expressed wasn’t meant to be combative. God bless you my brother.

    • Custador

      She’s certainly enough of a liar to be a priest.

    • Elemenope

      Let us assume Pastor Scott was an adult entertainer, she has apparently turned her life around – and it isn’t something that we do ourselves. It is only by the grace of God.

      Utter crap. People exercise their own will to change, often but not always with help from friends and family. Giving the credit for turning one’s life around to anyone other than the person who makes the right choice and those flesh and blood people that support them is patently offensive. Atheists have approximately the same success at rehab as religious folks, and it isn’t God they asked for help.

      It reminds me of pro football players who score great victories and then thank God, instead of their fellow teammates. God doesn’t run good pass screening, the guy who trains his ass off for 80 hours a week does.

  • Anthony Bucci

    As Moe from the Three Stooges said, “Everybody is entitled to my opinion.” Just kiddin.’
    Some of us, like myself, are weak willed people and need what we consider outside help in the form of the grace of God. I have supportive family and friends but there are some things that human help lacks. It’s kinda like the old saying, “Ya had to be there.”
    No hard feelings – just my way of living and dealing with this life. I’m not to judge you or anyone else. I try to keep my perceptions of myself and others in perspective. I will never truly know all of me, so to speak. Life is a journey of insights.
    Take care Elemenope. (btw, just if the alphabetical name you picked has any significance – l,m,n,o,p – curious)

    • Elemenope

      I have no problem with individuals who are helped in their recovery from bad straights by their personal faith in God. It just seemed from your earlier comment that you were saying that the Grace of God is the only thing, or at the very least a necessary thing, that can cause a person to save themselves from such straights. If I misinterpreted you, I apologize.

      As to my nickname, yes, it was a phonetic reconstruction of everyone’s favorite part of the alphabet; it sounds kinda neat, but it also is a way to pay homage to the notion that complicated patterns emerge from simple sets of data, such as when people singing the alphabet song sort of smear these five letters together into almost a letter of its own. I’m also fond of the notion that while the beginning and the end of things are important, the middle shouldn’t be ignored.

      The downside is that everyone on the Internet who doesn’t know me for some reason thinks I’m a chick. I don’t precisely know why, but for some reason this particular made- up name makes people think that its a female made-up name.

      • yahweh

        Because it closely resembles Penelope, maybe?

        • Elemenope

          I suppose in an anagrammatic sort of way. Are most people online dyslexic?

          • Custador

            No, they just mostly came through US school systems…

            • yahweh

              ouch!

          • yahweh

            yllaer ton

          • http://agnosticism2010.blogspot.com/ nomad

            I just thought you were going to be an element then decided not to.

        • Jabster

          Female names tend to sound softer than male names prehaps?

  • Anthony Bucci

    Your screen name – I don’t assume anything about anyone on the Net. I’ve always used ablackhole or variations as you can see in my email address. It’s a reference to the astronomical term. Its whole concept intrigues me.
    The first few times I went online with the name back in the Prodigy days, I was ‘gang banged.’ I think everybody assumed it was a sexual reference. I had one guy email me a picture of a woman from, let us say, a gynecological perspective. LMAO Yeah, I’m gonna believe that this woman was hot for me! Waited a few months and found out the guy was a gay lawyer from L.A. As my ex-wife used to say, “Whatever blows your skirt up.”
    Anyway, thank you for your courteous reply. Enjoy the rest of your day.

    • Anthony Bucci

      So what’s in a name? Profile someone because of a perception of anothers name. Sometimes people judge and accuse others of what they are themselves. I think it’s called projection. I try and filter what comes out of my mind and through my mouth. Could it be because I want to sound good…or clever…manipulative? On the Net all, none or a combination thereof are possible. I can justify and rationalize my thoughts and behaviors not only to suit someone else but also to fool myself. Don’t like looking in the mirror?
      Which brings me back to the idea of a belief in God (Your God/god as you perceive he, she or it.) There are no ‘proofs’ of the existence of, for the lack of a better term, God. I am a theist and I believe in God. I won’t go into detail other than the fact that I simply believe. I have no ‘tangible’ proof other than my own subjective faith and experiences that reinforce my belief. I could go on about what my God has done for me (sorry, He’s not a cosmic bellboy!) but again, completely subjective which is why it is called faith.
      “A man consists of the faith that is in him. Whatever his faith is, he is.” (from the Bhagavadgita)
      As for an atheist, try and prove that there IS NO God. Show tangible proof. An atheist has faith – faith that there is no God. It’s a draw.
      I am comfortable with my faith because there are two additional qualities that come with faith – hope and charity. As an atheist, and I ask for a direct answer, is there any hope in the belief of an atheist? Does an atheist feel any compassion for another human being? Why would I want to exist if there is no hope? I can’t have hope without faith. I read Sartre’s “Being and Nothingness” and saw the utter futility in modern existentialism. So why bother going through life with a sense of utter despair ‘knowing’ that this is all a hoax, dark shadows and a role of the dice? Bitterness, closemindedness, contempt prior to investigation. What has tainted my ‘will’ to believe?

      • Paul

        First of all, it’s not that we believe that there is no god, but that we don’t think that there is one. Those are not synonymous, and is something that a lot of theists seem to confuse. We think that there is no god, but that is better stated that we think that there is very little probability that there is a god. Skeptics will admit that you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a deity, and when we look at the world, it seems that the simplest explanation for what we see does not a deity. That is why we are skeptical about any existence.

        To answer your question about if atheists “feel any compassion for any other being,” the answer is Yes, we do. Sure there could be a sociopathic atheist, but the chances are really just as good for a sociopathic theist. Atheists see that we are human and have senses and emotions and can feel pain; we also realize that all of those qualities apply to the humans around us. If we do something to harm them, we know that they will feel pain, and that there really is no reason to do that. The corollary to this is that if someone is in pain, we understand, or at least can grasp an understanding, of their pain. We feel compelled to help alleviate their suffering simply because it would make life better for them. I think this is true for theists, but a lot don’t realize this; instead believing that the only reason that they should be good is because of internal punishment. Some theists, even ministers, take this explicitly. It is from this concept, that goodness comes from fear of everlasting torture, that since atheists do not believe in an everlasting torture, they are incapable of doing good. This simply isn’t true, otherwise everyone on this site would be committing horrible acts against humanity.

        As for hope; I have hope that tomorrow will be better, that we, as a society and a community, can grow and become more than we were in the past. This encompasses understanding our world, resolving our conflicts, helping others etc. Isn’t that hope enough? It seems to me that hope for a theist lies in hoping that they are following every single edict of their god. Hoping that they are in fact doing everything right, and will not suffer eternally for slight transgressions. The hope in the eternal paradise seems more like hoping for this instead of the torture. Between the theist’s hope, and the atheist’s, I think I will stick with the atheists.

        Regarding your post below, I hope your rant let out whatever pent up anger you had, but it really seems like the christian self hate is really starting to get to you.

        • http://prisonministry.net/one2one Stan

          Thoughtful comments. I was an atheist until I was 49 y/o. I was an outspoken one who ridiculed believers, especially Christians as I was brought up to believe were nothing but weak people unable to face that fact that at the moment of death they would return to the same nothingness from which they were born. My parents were not believers and I got my attitude from my dad who gave me speeches and books as early as I can remember to nurture my individual thought processes. I wanted to believe in God. I tried to believe in God but I could not and preferred to live uncomfortably but intellectually honest. As a child in school when we recited the pledge of allegiance I just didn’t say the “under God” part. If in a group where a prayer was given I would stand but leave my eyes open and be mute. I respected others rights in those settings. Not in private discussions. I took lessons from Mormon missionaries my first year at college in Flagstaff, AZ. My roommate in the dorm was Mormon and I went to church with him. The Mormons in that part of the country were very warm, generous and had activities for kids every day of the week. I fell in love with them and was baptized and confirmed after completing the lessons. I never truly believed in God and when the church in Oakland Ca failed to live up to the standards of love and humanity I experienced in Flagstaff I drifted away from the church. I went to Vietnam in 68 (Marines), lasted only a few months before being seriously injured, and then spent the next 10 months getting put back together in a Navy hospital. That experience reinforced my belief there was no God. I disagree with Paul about only thinking there was no God. No. I had a 100% profound conviction that God was an impossibility and anyone who believed was living in a fantasy world. Agnostics hold out the possibility that God exists. Atheist don’t. My job transferred me from the west coast to South Carolina in the early 90′s and it was there that I began my final attempt to find God. Took two years of reading, discussing, music, immersing myself in Christianity and then one day returning from an event in North Carolina I received the Holy Spirit like an arrow into my chest and at that instant I knew that God exists, Christ is His Son, the Resurrection is a historical fact and I would have life everlasting in Heaven. I knew this with the same absolute certainty that I always KNEW when I died it would be as if I just disappeared into eternal nothingness. The same absolute certainty that guided my belief that God did NOT exist. My life has been even more difficult since being ‘saved’ but I am comforted knowing I am living according to an absolute moral compass. No more living according to only what I think.

          Atheists can be just as compassionate as anyone else. I’ve always been sensitive to others’ situations, donated time and money to worthy causes, cried at a few movies and felt the same devastation when a calamity such as Oklahoma City or 911 happens. Atheists are like anyone else. I know people claiming to be Christians who seem as cold as a block of ice to me. But it does not really matter what I think of someone in terms of their walk with God. It is only their relationship with God that matters for them, just as it is mine that matters for me. If Pastor Scott is a charlatan it does not diminish the value I get from listening to her sermons. If what she says helps me get closer to God, to walk a straighter path as a Christian then it has great value. What matters is how I process what she says. That is why you cannot draw any conclusions about being a Christian by the church someone attends or the people with whom they associate. If she is a con, she is a very adept one who knows more about the Bible than do I. So I will learn. If she is doing wrong that is between her and God and her and the civil laws under which we live.

          • Sunny Day

            So you set out to be converted and you succeeded. You achieved your goal. Yay you!

            You don’t live the way you think you should live, but instead live in a way that other people tell you to live just as long as they assure you its absolutely moral.

            Congratz!

            • Jabster

              Personally I think we have another lying for Jebus …

            • Anthony bucci

              I got lost in your logic…

        • Anthony bucci

          Paul, I received a few responses like yours – the resentment that was apparent in my reply. No denying it but I’ve also explained that I’m not perfect nor ever will be. Again, my self-righteousness is my biggest weakness. Any type of false pride is fear based. I won’t get into the psychology of my weakness, or sin if you prefer.
          An atheist is one who does not believe in God. It is of Greek origin. However, an agnostic is one who doesn’t know if there is a god. The Latin verb ‘gnosto’ – to know. The word also goes back to a Greek translation that is carried over into Latin just as the word ‘atheist’ is. Sometimes the two words are misunderstood or confused.
          This email in not an attack on you. I enjoyed your ability to articulate your ideas instead of some of the crass BS heard on this site. Take care…

  • Anthony Bucci

    Unfortunately, at times I am not a Christian who can easily turn the other cheek. I have a long way to go. As I mentioned in a previous comment, I can be very self-righteous – probably my most prevalent sin, defect, weakness – call it the way you see it!
    Yo, when all is said and done, where’s the porn movie? This is where the poor example of a good Christian goes by the wayside – because I am a sinner.
    Can’t prove there is or isn’t a God. No problem. But how about tangible evidence – THE PORN MOVIE – or are the less than intellectual types who can only do potshots from a computer keyboard full of BS and get off on juvenile comments? If there’s a movie of this importance, so to speak, I would assume it’s on You Tube. Everything else is. So when you find THE MOVIE, if it truly does exist, or your whacked mind decides to dump some piece of porn crap as a practical joke because your cheap shots show just how moronic your lack of any insight into reality is, well, hold ‘em or show ‘em. It’s your call boys!!!!! (Ah, now I feel better. Have to pray for a bit more patience and tolerance tonight before going nite-nite.) Peace and love to all from a not-so-perfect Christian.

    • Jabster

      Peace and love … erm, not quite what I detected in your posts.

      • Anthony Bucci

        The only way I could end my reply considering its self-righteous content. As I said, I’m not a good example of a Christian at times. I’ll never be perfect but continue on the road of spiritual growth trying my best to follow the teachings of Jesus Christ.

        • Jabster

          Marvelous so you acting like a bit of an arse is ok as you can pray for forgiveness afterwards. I wanted a bike once and so I acted good, prayed and prayed and it never happened. What the heck I thought … so I nicked one and the prayed for forgiveness.

  • Anthony Bucci

    Jabster, that sounds reasonable enough. I agree. But I have to go back to my basic premise, on the Net, as Herman Hesse said in ‘Steppenwolf’, “All is permitted.”
    Enjoy your day…

  • Anthony Bucci

    It’s nice that the site has gotten past the ‘porn movie’ crap which is the only reason that I became involved with the postings. Needless juvenile rantings! The cheap shots at the pastor seemed to have calmed down and the site is at the point of philosophical and theological debate which I find interesting and informative. With the exception of those who insist on playing devil’s advocate (no reference to satan, a role played in group dynamics – go for it jabster, lol), I want to thank everyone for their enlightening replies to my less than knowledgeable understanding and reading of the Bible. God bless us all. No need to reply; I’m outta here!

  • http://www.hepcert.org Rev. Dr. Phillip C.

    Pastor Scott comes on at my house at midnight. I enjoy the teaching and the many insights into Greek and Hebrew meanings. I feel that Pastor Scott has much to offer the Christian community and I follow along closely during the session. I hope and pray that this kind of teaching will continue and I will continue to tune in at midnight.
    Dr. Lamb

  • GaryT

    You could be certain that those here are more obsessed with her looks than she is. She has the light of GOD flowing through her. Forget the physical realm. None of that lasts. Vanity is just another evil.
    If you can’t look and lust, Then don’t look and listen. Because whats important here is the MESSAGE. Very few are capable of clarifying the Bible and giving todays message with complete and simple understanding.
    I am a born Catholic and I happened to catch her by accident. She has a powerfull message. And their is no part of it she leaves unclear. There not many out here today capable of doing exactly what she is doing. The translation into English lose’s much through the journey. I haven’t seen Melissa stuggle even a slight bit to correctly clarify on every single point shes makes. And I grew up into this faith. Shes trully a JOY to watch and listen to. She sings the BLUES pretty darn good also.

    God Bless her,

    • Elemenope

      I haven’t seen Melissa struggle even a slight bit to correctly clarify on every single point shes makes.

      If you know if she’s correct or not on every point, then what she’s doing isn’t that special because you already know it well enough to judge it.

  • GaryT

    Today is a very different time than when I went to school. There have been many lost generations since. Growing up any time before the 60′s you would automatically have gone to either a Catholic school of Weekend Catechism. Either in which case the Nuns usually taught with a Yard Stick or Black Board Pointer. So, you really would pay attention and learn. You would also automatically be Baptised, and recieve the Sacrements of Confession and Communion. These have seriously being lost. Though Melissa Scott isn’t of any Denomination without a doubt she is educated and more than that has an ability to communicate. Understanding the Bible and Living it is one thing. Translating its and Teaching it in a Straightfoward, Simple method is another. Without a doubt its a Gift of hers which I find facinating. We as Christians without a doubt lack this type of Leadership in the Faith. More often than not when Christianity is spoken on of by non-followers. What you basically hear is them say; “I don’t understand what the Bible is saying, Much of it doesn’t make sense to me”. Pastor Scott shines in this area, understands this, and relates the message of God for God. We truly need more teachers like her.
    As far as your above thought………………I woke one morning and Melissa was on TV on the Channel I had on and the Message had just began, Earlier I had a completely different channel on and woke and Sister Angelica was on praying the Rosary with her sisters. Our Lord works “this way”. Its call the “Quickening of the Holy Spririt”. I understand this and believe its Gods way of saying. “I have a Gift for you”. If you and and I follow our Heart and our better thinking you will follow God. Will you be perfect? Of course not. But you will get better and better at it. Just remember to “Seek God First” in everything you do. Never forget the power of Prayer and the Rosary. The Rosary said daily is so strong I guarentee it will Change Any Life if said Daily for 1-year. I you have any doubt in God? Pray the Rosary daily and watch your life change. There is no more powerfull set of Prayers you can say I tell you. And the 15 Promise’s that The Blessed Mother guarentee’s will be yours. Will you be weathy, wise, and healthy? I don’t know. But I do know you will reside in Heaven “if” you follow this path. The Prayer of the Rosary is So Powerfull that each “Hail Mary” is like a Punch in the Face to Satan. If the World only knew just how powerfull this Recitation of Prayers was? Evil would not stand a chance and you would IMMEDIATLY see a different World on Earth.
    We as individuals are gambling for the highest stakes in the world…Your SOUL. Thats the most important thing of this World. And what the War of Heaven and Hell is all about.
    I am Empathic and work in the field of Human Services. Which I have done most of my life. Between, Substance Abuse, Homlessness, Mental Retardation and Mental Health I’ve pretty much covered it all. Being Empathic this has been a tremendous burden for me. The Pain is feel is exactly as those afflicted is. I understand your feelings and thus am compelled to write back to “you”.
    Now to be perfectly Honest with you, the only thing that I wish Melissa would re-think [and I don't judge her, I BLESS her.]. Is the message of The Blessed Mother [Melissa is of no Denomination]. The Blessed Mother is the one interceding for God and Jesus “Right Now”. This is why the prophesy’s of Fatima, Lourdes, Akita, and Mexico are so important. They cannot be denied, they happened and 1000′s have witnessed each event. In Fatima and Akita the message of the Blessed Mother was very direct and dire. We are in the Last Minute of the Last hour. If you never took any of this very serious. And you feel you have time and there is no Big hurry. I would dismiss this thinking and remember the GREATEST sin of this Generation is SLOTH. The time to act is now “Read the Message of Akita and Fatima” on You Tube. And pray and ask for nothing except the saving of the Souls of those you know who are lost. Be it members of you family, friends, the Priests whom committed sexual acts against children. Trust me there is no lack of lost Souls. And most importantly ask Jesus, Mary and GOD to forgive you. I have been guilty of Sloth. God came to me in a Dream and told me “He is Coming”. So my friend, I cannot waste another second and be guilty of the Sin of Sloth.

    Bless All of You, Go With GOD!

    • Brother James

      Hello Gary T. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>> Pastor Scott shines in this area, understands this, and relates the message of God for God. We truly need more teachers like her.
      As far as your above thought………………I woke one morning and Melissa was on TV on the Channel I had on and the Message had just began, Earlier I had a completely different channel on and woke and Sister Angelica was on praying the Rosary with her sisters. Our Lord works “this way<<<

      You mean satan?!!! 'cause he is the one directing'em…and you are following them…so make a simple equation….and!!! follow the leader, and where do you think and believe your Eternal Life is in the hands of?!!! Jesus?!!! the devil has tricked you again, have you ever heard this song called "Poor little fool"?!! By Ricky Nelson?!! and "Poor Little devil" by the singing nun?!!! eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh! it seems as if they were talking about you, but!!! it is not you, is just that all satan's folllowers are poor little devils, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!,eh, I myself was one of them for over 50 years…uff!!! I verly made it, thanks to the Lord Jesus who pulled me out of the grave, when I was in my way to the morgue, 'cause I died in a car accident…..STUDY THIS MESSAGE JESUS "GAVE ME"….TURN or BURN….I did TURNED….I DID….I hope you too…

      God Bless………….Brother James

  • themystery

    Regardless of her past, her current energy is admirable. You can tell what she is saying comes from the heart. I never her ask for money, in fact, if I was running a business I would say she is failing, but that isn’t what she is doing. She is preaching the Word and trying to inform and inspire. Her husband was quite unusual, so why shouldn’t she be the same. I find her wonderfully light spirited, fun to listen to and watch, she inspires me to read the Bible. The format she preaches on is very unremarkable. It’s not flashy using marker boards and a big screen as a backdrop. Come on. I highly doubt she is in it for the money, hasn’t she just been taken off the air. Everything their ministry sells is absolutely reasonably priced, nothing smacks ripoff at all. If she really has all that money from her husband, why even bother preaching, getting up and looking presentable when you can just relax. She must feel a need to keep her husbands legacy alive along with of course the Word. I don’t care about her background because I can tell she is genuine. She has been singing on Dr. Scott’s show for years, and she was never spectacular but she was always heartfelt. That is what got me. Maybe her past is different, whose really isn’t in some way or fashion. No ones life is perfect. Although her passion I feel is genuine, just watch her. Do you ever hear her ask for money? I NEVER have. Her husband did, but I thought he was wonderful as well, why…….because he couldn’t care less what people thought of his person. I think people could see that. She may not want to tarnish the mans legacy, but in reality she is creating one of her own, and if she stays on the same path I am confident in time people will see she is truly interesting, she makes sense, she is unique and very different, she is trying, she is dedicated and fun. How many people who preach are fun. I wish her the best. Time will tell the true story. She hasn’t given up and who knows what the future holds, although I hope it’s good for her. She makes some wonderful points as her husband did, but in her own way. Regardless of her past, I hope she lives the life she preaches. We all thought “Tiger” was someone to look up to and we found out to our shock that he was ALL TO HUMAN. She is too, so let’s let time tell her story. I think so far she has honored God and her husband honorably. She is human, she doesn’t ever profess to be anything more. I don’t know if she holds degrees, but she has said she knows many languages and it’s obvious she knows at least what she is presenting. Her teacher of scripture was her husband who was very smart, so let’s give her a break and LISTEN to the knowledge. Judgement will be undoubtedly revealed in time, so let’s give her some!! I say God bless her and as long as you have God in your heart keep doing what you do regardless of what people say, for that isn’t the point, it’s the message people, it’s the message. So LISTEN.

    • Sunny Day

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      • Nzo

        Indentations, spacing, and the use of paragraphs make all the difference in the world.

        • Francesc

          Those are the weapons of the devil, he won’t delude us!

    • Brother James

      Hello themystery. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>>You can tell what she is saying comes from the heart<<<

      Nobody argues that brother, nobody, the issue here is what is her heart full of?!!!! And according to her own words is full of evil, she knows shit about the bible, she is just like anyone so called bible teacher or pastor, people trained by satan's workers, that is all…haven't you read the world news where in mexico most people is killed by drug trafickers dressed as cops and drivinng goverment vehicles?!!!! so it is the people of satan, and!!! since you belong to him too, you can not notice nor know…so!! why doesn't just enjoy her preaching and put it in your inner-back mind for judgment day….eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!,
      eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!…

      God Bless………………….Brother James

  • Dan Smith

    ………….and?

    If it’s true, what a testimony as to what the power of Christ can do.

    • Custador

      YES AMAZING! People can LIE to gullible idiots like YOU! In the name of JEEEEEEEBUS!

    • Sunny Day

      Dan I am god. If you send me 100$ I will make you the most blessed person in all the world.

      “If it’s true, what a testimony as to what the power of Christ can do.”

    • Jabster

      “If it’s true”

      … and that’s where you hit the problem.

    • coffeejedi

      Holy crap! The wingnuts are still commenting on this old article!?

      I’d say that’s more a testimony to what a moderately hot chick can do to morons.

    • Brother James

      Hello Sunny Day. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>>“If it’s true, what a testimony as to what the power of Christ can do.”<<

      The testimony of Christ (He is YHWH in human form) only has effect in the people who believe and get baptized in His Name and Obey His Law….meaning they submit to Him, se seek refuge in Him "FOR REAL" not mouthy, or meaning not words only as 99.9999999999999999999999999999% of so called protestants do…..how do I know that?!! I was one of them for about 15 years, I kept leaveing every denomination, because they were teaching 90% of catholic doctrines, and I was a catholic for over 45 years so I knew what a catholic doctrine is since I spent three summers studying for the catholic priessthood and I was an altar boy for over 10 years….well!! when I decided to join the true church and jumped to a baptist church, what did I find there?!!! the trinity, sunday worshiping, lawlessness, the name jehovah, all catholic made, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, all those doctrines were given by satan to the Spiritual Babylon a.k the Catholic Church and her daughters the protestant denominations…..so!!! if you are one of them, and you still alive, you can do what I did…."DEFFECT"…jump out of the train heading to hell and submit to Jesus "ONLY"…..and!! He will become your teacher and you will learn the truth…unless?!!! You are happy, and you will be happy knowing the fate of your eternal life…burning without ever dying.;….I didn't like it a bit….

      I hope you make the right decision before is to late….I had this friend whom I talked several times and she didn't care….well!! she is gonne now..last week she had a heart attack and there is no salvation for her….

      God Bless…………Brother James

  • Brother James

    Hello There. Peace of Christ.

    Let this poor lady alone!!!! she has a “HOTTER” FUTURE” to cope with….let her have fun while she can and it lasts……she is one of satan’s vestal virgins….

    The bible says:

    Let the evil continue to be and teach evil, and let the righteous continue and teach to be righteous….Rev. 22:11….

    Isaiah 5:20

    Woe to those who “ALL EVIL GOOD” and “GOOD EVIL”, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter…

    21 “WOE TO THOSE” WO ARE “WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES” (lady melissa is one of them) and “CLEVER IN THEIR OWN SIGHT”….

    Prov. 5:21 For a man’s (and women) ways “ARE IN FULL VIEW OF YHWH=JESUS, and HE “EXAMINES” all his paths..

    22 “THE EVIL DEEDS” of a “WICKED MAN” snare him; the cord of his/her sins “HOLD HIM/HER” FAST.

    23He/She “WILL DIE” for lack of discipline LEAD ASTRAY BY “HIS/HER OWN FOLLY”..
    See!!!!!!!

    God Bless……………..Brother James

  • Spiritalbeings
    • Sunny Day

      Spam

      • Spiritalbeings

        not its the bible idiot

        • trj

          Promotion of a product that nobody wants or requests: spam.

          • Yoav

            I think the buybull have crossed the spam event horizon long ago and should be considered malware.

        • Ty

          “not its the bible idiot”

          The writer of this sentence calling someone else an idiot is awesome in an ironic way.

        • Sunny Day

          “not its the bible idiot”

          When caught in a spam, spam again.

  • GaryT

    Brother James,

    Has much contemp for the Faith as we see. As he swears and claims everything Christian and Catholic to be EVIL? Let think for a moment does that sound right?

    And what solutions does the magnificant Brother James offer? Turn of Burn? Turn to WHO Brother James tell us all your infinate Wisdom. While you posts are filled with nothing but Blasphemy, lets her YOUR wonderful Solution to the World and Mankind?

    So lets hear “your” Philosophy? Certainly its better then Turn or Burn, Satan does better than that, that which you offer is the wisdom of a simple Idiot.

    So you claim one should be Baptised, where and how do your proclaim this should be done? And we should not follow any Christian or Catholic denomination. So just read the BIble and you’ll be saved. Well lets see, we have those who are illiterate, those who are Semi-illiterate, and those who are educated and simply don’t get it. Who should they follow Brother James?

    Should they all E-Mail you and you’ll teach them the word in 20 different languages?

    Get off the Soap Box and get real Brother James. You offer a Fools advice which leads Souls to Hell. There is no salvation through a fools advice such as yours. What should we do for all the souls of the world who have no faith Brother James? In all you wisdom how do we save them BROTHER James. And BTW your not of Brother of anything but a self proclaimed faith. So the only thing you are is James thats lost.

    Posting scriptures { like you are doing here} does exactly what for this those who do not understand them?

    Get Real my friend. there are actually people here who have read the Bible for decades and are commenting on this topic.

    • Brother James

      Hello Gary T. Peace of Chist…

      As I read your whole post which is this>>>>GaryT July 30, 2010 at 5:26 am Brother James,

      Has much contemp for the Faith as we see. As he swears and claims everything Christian and Catholic to be EVIL? Let think for a moment does that sound right?

      And what solutions does the magnificant Brother James offer? Turn of Burn? Turn to WHO Brother James tell us all your infinate Wisdom. While you posts are filled with nothing but Blasphemy, lets her YOUR wonderful Solution to the World and Mankind?

      So lets hear “your” Philosophy? Certainly its better then Turn or Burn, Satan does better than that, that which you offer is the wisdom of a simple Idiot.

      So you claim one should be Baptised, where and how do your proclaim this should be done? And we should not follow any Christian or Catholic denomination. So just read the BIble and you’ll be saved. Well lets see, we have those who are illiterate, those who are Semi-illiterate, and those who are educated and simply don’t get it. Who should they follow Brother James?

      Should they all E-Mail you and you’ll teach them the word in 20 different languages?

      Get off the Soap Box and get real Brother James. You offer a Fools advice which leads Souls to Hell. There is no salvation through a fools advice such as yours. What should we do for all the souls of the world who have no faith Brother James? In all you wisdom how do we save them BROTHER James. And BTW your not of Brother of anything but a self proclaimed faith. So the only thing you are is James thats lost.

      Posting scriptures { like you are doing here} does exactly what for this those who do not understand them?

      Get Real my friend. there are actually people here who have read the Bible for decades and are commenting on this topic.<<WAITWAITWAIT>…it will come, it will happen, whether you believe it or not, whether you like it or not, whether you accept it or not…eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!…It will happen………..

      I do not envy you…….

      God Bless……………….Brother James

  • Truthteller

    Hello Good People of Faith, (who would love nothing more than the redemption of fallen man/or fallen woman for that matter)

    Unfortunately people, having inside knowledge to the whole “Melissa the Whore” saga, I must tell you officially that the temple prostitute is still currently on-line soliciting money for viewership of her old naked pictures for money, and is nothing but a fake phony gold-digger?

    She dated a married television mogul who divorced his wife to date her in 2006-2007 after her father (oops, so-called husband died, who happened to be load with money) and then began dating another married man who abandoned his wife and children. They are all currently involved in adultery and pornography, for a fact, while siphoning millions of dollars from unwitting citizens/viewers of America and around the world. It is shameful, unexcusable and a desecration to the church and Kingdom. And this is not hearsay, it is fact. Wise up and turn from these wolves in sheeps clothing before they lead you down the garden path to hell. Take the high road to obedience, faithfulness, and love, and leave the impostors behind!!!

    • Ty

      Boy, did YOU get a wrong number. . .

    • Brother James

      Hello truthteller. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>>Hello Good People of Faith, (who would love nothing more than the redemption of fallen man/or fallen woman for that matter)

      Unfortunately people, having inside knowledge to the whole “Melissa the Whore” saga, I must tell you officially that the temple prostitute is still currently on-line soliciting money for viewership of her old naked pictures for money, and is nothing but a fake phony gold-digger?

      She dated a married television mogul who divorced his wife to date her in 2006-2007 after her father (oops, so-called husband died, who happened to be load with money) and then began dating another married man who abandoned his wife and children. They are all currently involved in adultery and pornography, for a fact, while siphoning millions of dollars from unwitting citizens/viewers of America and around the world. It is shameful, unexcusable and a desecration to the church and Kingdom. And this is not hearsay, it is fact. Wise up and turn from these wolves in sheeps clothing before they lead you down the garden path to hell. Take the high road to obedience, faithfulness, and love, and leave the impostors behind!!!<<<

      The spiritual father of this people and all people in the world is the father of lies…mr. satan a.k the devil….how can you advice them to not to believe in a lie their beloved father has told them?!!!! eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh! I adimire you, you have lots guts to print this….is like saying to a blind fellow who is walking next to you and then he trips (due to his blindness) then you would say…can you see stupid?!!!…

      God Bless…………Brother James

  • Eric WAlker

    Pastor Melissa I Wrote to you the only way I found to do so till now. then I found this spot to Contact You. Better than the other section. Sincerly yours for Eternity Eric Walker 816/238-9178 The Lord has Sealed Our Pathes-Together You Sence the Feel of Our Essance through the Holy Spirit! Fusen with the Holy Trenity and Thee/Me. You Know I’m not Wrong,we Must. Decline is not an oppsion,we Have-Many things to get Done, with Christ-Guidance So Be IT-AMEN & AMEN, Glory Be in the Holy Trenity–!!!– Eric Contact-Needed Matters of Importance!

    • Ty

      Boy, this Pastor Melissa is just looney bait, isn’t she?

      • Len

        I kind of feel sorry for her. She should contact me.

    • http://theskippyreview.wordpress.com Skippy

      Holy kraplakistan!

  • William Okola

    My brethren I like your website and believe this is the best place to learn more about God and His Might through His wonderful word that I had read and study in your website. My name is William Onyango and leading a local church in Eldoret Kenya. We are a young growing church, on Wednesday we use have a bible study class and this class I believe can be growing spiritually strong through these teachings, secondly we have also a Sunday school class of our children and these teaching can help our children to know more a bout God. Please I would request you, because it is not good for my self to study from your website alone and not sharing with my fellow brethren in our church. I would love to have your teachings with us and by doing this you can send us your teachings through our mailing address, if it would be good with you then let me know please. Thank you God bless you fervently, looking forward to your email please.
    In Christ pastor William.

    • Sunny Day

      I would be very pleased to show you more about god. Times being what they are, I would request a small token of appreciation from you to demonstrate how much my teachings will be valued.

  • Jabster

    A 419 scammer on this website, what has the world come to!

  • a sinner

    You know what? I was saved and I have read the bible and understood it, and then I began to judge and sin as I have before. Looking back at it now, I was at fault, no one else. Not the church, or the pastors or anyone that had fallen. Why did this happened to me? Because, I guess I wasn’t fully commited to love, the love that comes from the father and the son. You see, when you give yourself to the lord, you must understand that the old way has to be crusified, you have to die in your sinful nature. Its all about Jesus, not about you. But I’m finally realizing now, that, most of my wrong doing is actually comming out of fear. So then, where is my faith, not that its dead but where is it. Its in stuff…plain o stuff. I have to begin once again to renew my mind and think about the day I was saved and how great I felt and I also have to remember that fears and worries don’t come from God, but from the devil. I have been decieved. I have to become very aware about whats happening around me because every day there is evil surrounding not just me of course but everyone in the world-sela, think about it, look at what’s happening around the world. How can anyone judge good when they themselves are caught in evil and don’t even know it. They don’t know because they are blind like I was. I have to renew my mind. So for anyone out there judging any pastor, or child of God, remember this, if you don’t have anything good say, then don’t say anything lest you be judge, and if you walk in love continue to walk in it. There is a giant garantee. Those that walk in love have inner tranquility. Those that don’t are always judging others to escape their own thoughts on their transgressions. Again, look at the world around us and look at whats happend to our country-sela, think about it.

    • Anthony Bucci

      The main cause of sin is self-centered fear that is brought on by self-righteousness, selfishness. false pride. I don’t believe that anyone is free of fear 100% of the time. From Proverbs – a loose translation:
      Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not toward thine own understanding; in all thy ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct thy paths.
      For myself there is the fear where the Proverb says, ‘and lean not toward thine own understanding.’ When I get to that part, I think – what’s does He have in store for me today. And I start to project out of fear.
      Another piece of scripture that I have hanging on my wall so that when I wake up in the morning, it’s right there, “My grace is sufficient for thee.”
      My own best thinking usually gets me in trouble.
      Another piece that I’ve read someplace asks God to help me believe in Him. There’s no getting away from Him; He always has an answer. Pray and have faith in the Word of God.

  • a sinner

    Yes!!! You are right!! Thank you and God bless you brother. I’m going to be all right. He let me know that seven years ago when I was taking care of my mother with alhzimers. I guess the pressure became great and i forgot what I had been given to me. THE GRACE. That incredible beautiful grace he gave me. Only children of the true God know that, but i had forgot.

    • Anthony Bucci

      Coincidences are God working anonymously….

      • Revyloution

        or they are just coincidences.

      • Kodie

        Coincidences are statistical.

        • Jabster

          I would have far greater reason to believe in a god like entity if coincidences didn’t happen. The fact that they do points to there not being a god.

          • Anthony bucci

            As Moe from the The Three Stooges said, “Everybody is entitled to my opinion!”
            Enjoy your day…

            • Kodie

              It’s not really a matter of opinion though. You can’t have an opinion that 3+2=20.

            • Anthony bucci

              …it’s still just an opinion…

            • Paul

              Well… define 2, 3, and 20.

              ; ]

            • http://theskippyreview.wordpress.com Skippy

              Wow, Anthony. Way to hide behind “opinion” when people have asked you to substantiate your argument. You’ve gone beyond opinion and presented a number of assertions, all of which you’re now being asked to support with evidence and proof. When you can’t do that, you retreat to the assumed safety of “It’s just my opinion!” Please. Do better.

  • Brother James

    Hello Everyone here. Peace of Christ.

    SUPER-GOOD NEWS……….

    McDonals restaurants just bought the moon, ’cause they finally accepted that the moon is all made of cheesse, and i paid nasa 1000000000000000000000000000000000$ dlls. So! now we all humans can live zillions of years withouth fearing of having a Big Mac….

    The planet is saved brother, worry not….but!!! worry about the Coming of the Holy Spirit..a.k Father and a.k Son, Namely YHWH=JESUS…that you have to worry about…are you ready? Freddy?!!! Is your body, soul and spirit in good terms with the Law-Giver who will be the Judge?!!
    eh!, eh!. eh!. eh!. eh! has that devil of satan tricked you into thinking that you do not need to Obey the Law to be “SAVED”?!!! eh!@, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh! that fellow satan is a tricky, tricky, tricky, sliky, iky….fellow….

    God Bless………………Brother James

    • Yoav

      Someone is off his meds.

  • a sinner

    I admit that I have done wrong, however, it looks as if the sheeps and the goats are being seperated, right brother bucci? One thing is to not agree with once faith, another is to treat a faith based person with disrespect. If you don’t believe, fine that’s your business, but treat people with love. You have heard of love right? Another word for love is respect. I’m not picking a fight with anyone, I don’t intend to, but a little respect goes a long, long way

    • Anthony bucci

      If I sounded like I was separating anyone based on subjective experience, well, subjective experience is just that. It’s something that can only be experienced by a certain individual. It’s not a confrontational, existential statement. It’s analogous to describing what a certain food tastes like to someone who has never tasted that food. And once someone tastes that food, they may not like it. Which again is a subjective opinion or experience.
      If anything I said was misconstrued as disrespectful, I apologize. Then again I do post an opinion based on like-minded comments.
      I wish I could say that I love everyone. I’d be a liar. I don’t know anyone on this site personally. I am just engaging in, for lack of a better explanation, spiritual combat but without malice in my heart. I practice respect in my daily life in the real world. Even when someone disrespects me, I can usually ‘turn the other cheek.’ In almost all of my daily goings-on, the act of another person – well, how important is it? An hour, a day, a lifetime – the action of another is gone in the blink of an eye though I believe that, subjectively of course, that I will be accountable before God for my reactions. I also look at my actions as having a domino effect. My behaviors ultimately can affect another’s treatment of someone else and so on….
      ‘ a sinner’ – if I use your ‘net name in our conversations, I would like to refer to you as ‘a desert father.’ Living a good life isn’t easy, but I have to sacrifice my ego, or self will, using God’s grace to do so. ‘Of myself I am nothing, the Father doeth the works.’
      With peace my brother…

  • a sinner

    excuse my ignorance, but what is a desert father? Also I do love, not only my friends but my enemies also which, yes, its not always easy, but when I succeed in turning the cheek, i can feel the grace of God inside my soul in conjuction with the holy spirit, even though it sometimes hurts, i realize that i am doing what he would want me to do. Yes i am a sinner but im also a son of God, and yes i know its a process. Many of the people that know me say that i’m too hard on myself, that i’m not that bad, as a matter of fact they say that i’ve never shown any bad intentions on anyone, but everytime i sin, the cross stands in front me and convicts me, that’s how i know that i am truly loved by the creator. Any way, what is a desert father?

    • Anthony Bucci

      The Desert Fathers were ascetics that went into the desert to live monastic lives. Many of the women who did the same were prostitutes that had been blessed by the Holy Spirit. A publisher, Penguin Classics, does inexpensive reprints of older material which is probably not so popular today unless you are in a certain niche. “The Desert Fathers – Sayings of Early Christian Monks,” gives a general idea of the lives, inspirations and enlightenment of these individuals. If someone were to compare me to one of these monks, I’d walk away in shame because I’d never be able to hold a candle to their spirituality.
      God’s best to you…

      • Anthony bucci

        Kodie, Skippy and Paul
        Remember when the world was flat and the earth was the center of the universe? Yeah, I can do the math. No, three plus two doesn’t equal twenty. But a block of concrete has nothing in common with spiritual experience. And experience in and of itself is subjective and opinion. Sleep well…

  • a sinner

    It feels good to have conversations on this site now matter the opinion. The thing is, is that we share are thought in a mature manner. I don’t get that from the people i know. Its cool, i love them no matter what. my friendships have lasted 26 years+ i’m blessed, however, it feels good to speak to not only like minded people, but people of different thoughts on any number of subjects. IHere’s a thought…if anyone does not believe in a creator but have at least an open mind to find if there is any solid proof in the existing of a loving God, then do this. With total,i mean 100% honesty ask God himself, ” God if you really exist and if you really love us, then show me a sign at your time, because I would like to know. Because if you really do exist, I don’t want to live the rest of my life blind, i want to have a chance to know you. Please come to me, show me that you love me.” I believe, he will show himself to you, however, you have to be totally and completely honest with your request. Im certain that he will show you how much he loves you.

    • Revyloution

      a sinner, I grew up in a secular home. I never had any religious upbringing. On my 21st birthday, instead of going and getting drunk, I packed up my backpack, and did 3 days alone in the mountains. I’d had many friends try and convince me about the reality of their god. I’d read the Bible, the Kitáb-i-Aqdas of the Bahai, the Book of Mormon, the Koran, and even the Egyptian Book of the Dead. I was, at that point in my life, really curious about what I was missing. Why were most of the people in the world believers in something? Why were they so convinced?

      I spent those 3 days embraced in the heart of a beautiful wilderness. With no distractions, and an open heart, I asked the Creator to fill me. I asked what the meaning of life was. I asked if there was life after this one. I was answered by the deafening silence of a gorgeous forest. It was beautiful, but not any more beautiful than any of my other camping trips. No voice, no revelation. Nothing.

      You, as a believer, might think that silence would be scary. I felt it comforting. I knew that I had to rely on myself and my friends to get through this life. Nothing else would be there. It was our world, and we could make it how we wanted.

      I spent years on my quest for truth. I came at it with an open heart. I read the holy texts, and had honest conversations with spiritual leaders. I went into the quest as a non-believer, and I left it in the same state.

      • Anthony bucci

        Be still, and know that I am…

    • Jabster

      A few points, if the god you believe in really is all loving then he could and should show me a sign without me asking for or unless god’s version of love is radical different to the human definition; how can someone with an open mind (to be 100% sure that your god exists suggests a closed mind not an open one) 100% honestly ask of something that there isn’t even weak proof let only solid proof that it exists; if I do get an answer how would I know that it’s your god that has answered the request and not someone elses?

    • Darwin

      As a kid, when I started losing my faith, I looked for proof for God. I must have asked God to give me a sign a hundred times. Nothing happened.

    • Brother James

      Hello a sinner. Pace of Christ..

      You say >>> Im certain that he will show you how much he loves you<<>> Please come to me, show me that you love me.<<<

      He says in His Holy Word….If YOU LOVE ME "YOU WILL OBEY" My Commandments.. The 10 of them+ the New One..Baptism in His Name….do you do that, and have you done that?!!! or!! are you going to continue loving Jesus as satan says, and ORDERS…just uttering it, simple words….Jesus says this about this people:

      This people say they LOVE me but their hearts are far from me…..

      They worship Me "IN VAIN" (See! all the worshiping they have done and you have done while not Observing His Law, Understanding and accepting and Honoring His Oneness, not Keeping His Holy Sabbath-Day Holy, not been baptized in His Name…etc. etc) because their teachings are teachings, rules and commandments of men…see!! All catholics and protestants belong to satan….the doctrines of the catholic church are against the doctrines of Jesus….all……

      God Bless……….Brother James

    • Nox

      I do not believe in a creator. I can say with 100% honesty I do have an open mind to find if there is any solid proof in the existing of a loving God. I’ve actually spent most of my life looking for that exact thing. I have asked god hundreds of times to give me a sign that he was there. Any sign at all.

      I’m still waiting. And still open minded. And still nothing.

      • Brother James

        Hello Nox. Peace of Christ.

        You say >>>I do not believe in a creator. I can say with 100% honesty I do have an open mind to find if there is any solid proof in the existing of a loving God. I’ve actually spent most of my life looking for that exact thing. I have asked god hundreds of times to give me a sign that he was there. Any sign at all.

        I’m still waiting. And still open minded. And still nothing<<<

        Your answer is here….go to a mirror and look at it and see what or who do you see!…
        then, get out in the night and look up, and get out of your house in the day and look around….go for a drive or watch t.v. the Discovery Channel, the Science Channel, etc. etc…and!! let me know what is that you think….

        God Bless and have a:
        Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Peaceful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day…Brother James

    • Anthony bucci

      Desert Father…My guess is that many non-believers will ask to hit the lottery…also, thank you for your post..you’re comments are always an inspiration to me…enjoy your weekend…

      • Siberia

        Au contraire, my friend, I asked for healing and for consolation. I was born an atheist, even through my mother’s religiousness, I could not believe. I cried every damn night for cure (I’m crippled) and for faith. I cried every night for god to answer me, as far back as when I was six.

        I’m turning 26 in two weeks. Nothing ever happened. I’m still crippled (though medicine, not god, helped). I still feel not foreign love upon me. I still cannot believe.

        • Anthony Bucci

          I can make a laundry list of problems that are a part of my life but I won’t get into them because the list is irrelevant. Somethings I was born with and there are no cures; other problems were brought about by choices I made in my life style. I felt the same way you did for a long time. I’m 60 years old and occasionally I still feel self pity but I don’t seek pity from others. A friend of mine who, incidentally, was an atheist used to refer to God as ‘the cosmic bellboy.’ Everybody wants something and they don’t get it so they blame God.
          What I did learn to do is help someone else that might have the same problems I have or maybe just help somebody with who knows what. I find out that when I help someone else, I forget about myself. It doesn’t make my problems go away and I wouldn’t expect God to ‘reward’ me for my actions. But when I put someone ahead of myself, something happens. My ‘reward’ is grace, for lack of a better word. (Yeah, it has a religious connotation but that’s how I see it. If you’ve read any of my other posts, I believe that our perceptions are completely subjective. In other words, how I see myself is my choice.)
          My wife worked with children who were terminally ill cancer kids. Their attitudes toward life and each other were incomprehensible to me. I couldn’t understand why they lived so selflessly instead of self-centered. I used to think she wasted her time because these kids were going to die and most of them did. And then I found the key. My wife brought it home everyday. Compassion…caring for someone else just as she did for the kids and just as the kids cared for each other. It’s taken me a long time to develop compassion because I lived a life full of self pity and self loathing. I can’t blame God because I don’t have a clue why things happen the way they happen in our world. I’d have to say that most of the problems in today’s world are man-made. We have a free will. We’ve also been taught to blame God for everything when things don’t go our way.
          So I have a choice – sit and feel sorry for myself or put a hand out, if possible, or whatever I have to give. And I believe we all have something to give to help someone else and, in turn, help ourselves. As I said, I’m 60 years old and it took me a long time to feel the way I’ve just described. You don’t have to wait another 10, 20 or 30 years of feeling the way you feel. The choice is yours. And God bless and guide you in all that you do…

          • Sunny Day

            It seems that you are just taking the vagaries of chance and the consequences of the choices you made, wrapping it up with the label god, to be able to instill a deeper meaning on it all.

        • Brother James

          Hello Siberia. Peace of Christ.

          You say >>Au contraire, my friend, I asked for healing and for consolation. I was born an atheist, even through my mother’s religiousness, I could not believe. I cried every damn night for cure (I’m crippled) and for faith. I cried every night for god to answer me, as far back as when I was six.

          I’m turning 26 in two weeks. Nothing ever happened. I’m still crippled (though medicine, not god, helped). I still feel not foreign love upon me. I still cannot believe<

  • Anthony bucci

    For believers and non-believers, give this a shot – nothing to loss. Read “Varieties of Religious Experience” by William James. As many have mentioned in expressing their opinions, read it with an open mind. Perhaps the answer is there and even non-believers might find the answer that they already have. Nothing wrong with that.
    Everyone enjoy their weekend…

  • a sinner

    In his time, not yours. I know that’s not very popular, but that’s the way it is, sorry, not my way, but his way. God only knows why he does or does not do the things in our lives. One thing I do know and everyone can agree. Thank God that I am alive today, thank God that I have food to eat, thank God that every night I look up at the starts I realize, how beautiful his creation is. Why do kids get cancer? I don’t know. Ask the water company in your city, ask all kinds of industries if they are doing something terrible that pollutes the quality of air in our cities, ask ask ask. Stop blaming God for everything and look at your self in the mirror starting with me. What did my parants do before I was born? How are my eating habits, Notice how this country has become a culture of obease, alcholic, drug infested think of yourself first society? I know its terrible what I am saying, but I myself grew up in a messed up situation,Basically the Cuban mafia, and friends that sole drugs in their twenties. A freind of mine commited suicide, my half brother dies at 36, another freind gets a stroke at 36 my father dies a 50, my step father dies in jail, my mother has alzhimers and the list goes on and on and I know them and what they were like and I love them anyways.The bible says that the wages of sin is death, live by the spirit not by the flesh. I really don’t know what’s in anybody’s mind and how honest are they REALLY, but I do know one thing that’s for sure. I’m alive today, and thank God for Jesus who took my place, because I deserve death yet a live, but not because of me because of him who took my place. I believe because I am a live. Cosmic blast, yes there was a cosmic blast, but who made that happend + you cannot defined nothing, so something is happening, Something did happen, that’s my God. Go outside and breath the air, even though the quality sucks, but yet you can breath, Go outside and look at the birds of the air, the wind carresing your skin and think, I’m going to belive even if my so called prayers haven’t been answered, Actually, they have aleardy been answered. You are alive

    • Jabster

      As you’ve failed to the questions put to you except with a rather weak “that’s just the way god is”, I’ll repeat them for you.

      “A few points, if the god you believe in really is all loving then he could and should show me a sign without me asking for or unless god’s version of love is radical different to the human definition; how can someone with an open mind (to be 100% sure that your god exists suggests a closed mind not an open one) 100% honestly ask of something that there isn’t even weak proof let only solid proof that it exists; if I do get an answer how would I know that it’s your god that has answered the request and not someone elses?”

      If you are, as it seems, totally incapable of actually repsonding to questions but would instead just prefer to preach to people then why do you think you are achieving here?

      • Anthony Bucci

        Prove to me that there IS no God…

        • Yoav

          Prove that invisible pink unicorns don’t exist.

          • Anthony Bucci

            prove that they do…

            • Yoav

              Just as soon as you prove god does.

            • Anthony Bucci

              Maybe God created invisible pink unicorns!!!
              nite nite…

            • Jabster

              @Anthony Bucci

              If you’re going to try and put forward an argument for your god’s existence or at least trying to equate that not believing in your god requires the same amount of faith as believing in your god, try to a) not pick one that has been shown to be wrong time and time again and b) one that can be applied to the thousands of gods that you don’t believe in. Has this line of argument every worked for you or is it just something that you and you “mates” argue is a killer argument?

              p.s. You really had Yoav on the ropes there with your child like, no you first argument. Have you considered going into politics?

  • a sinner

    It seems that maybe you are the one that does not understand because you’re waiting for some kind of physical proof, you know with your eyes or ears. The proof is in his spirit to your spirit. You seem incapable to understand that he, God is beon the physical. He is spirit, you must think in spirit, that which you cannot see or hear. If this seems confusing to you it is because from the beginning you had already made up your mind that he does not exist and with a mind set like that even though he is tying to reach you, you lack the sensitivity to feel his spirit. He is all around us, but you intend to live in the three dementional world. That’s basically what’s wrong with the world today. The next time you go outside and feel the wind in your face, try to see its physical form, but I dought you’ll even know which direction it originated from. Go in peace.

  • a sinner

    As far as a sign, it is up to him how the sign will come. And about love, his love is far greater then anyone can emagine. Much more then our own understanding of the word love. I am not the ultimate authority on the matter and never claimed to be and as for preaching, I am speaking from an experience that happend to me which solidified everything I believed in and yes it was internal. I had surrendered and then one day he came to pay a visit, and no I didn’t see or hear anything, but I felt his spirit. It was soothing, like peace of mind times a billion, and then I a knowing that i wasn’t alone and that everything was going to be all right, and the funny thing was that after that happened, I said as i looked up at the sky,”oh my God your for real,” that was wierd, because then I questioned my faith from before which wasn’t that strong to begin with, nevertheless i knew what happend and after that i quickly made up my mind to go for mines, which was, High school deploma, BFA, on and on and on. By him i was able to get back up from my fallen position and began to enjoy life as a kid again even though i was a man of 30 years of age. But i have fallen again and again and again and i get up again and again and again. That’s on me and at the same time he gives me the strength to succeed by HIS LOVE! Love ya’ll

    • Elemenope

      Parents who love you don’t play peek-a-boo with you until you die.

  • a sinner

    I’m sorry to break it to you but I said he came to visit, that means he made himself known to me even though he is all around us. This wasn’t peeka boo, it was more like, I want you to know that i am here and that i love you.

    • Nzo

      How does it feel to be an adult with an imaginary friend? Though you seem to think he in some way affects your life, there’s not a single ounce of proof that he’s anything but completely useless.

      Some imaginary friend of yours wants me to know that he loves me? You people are so creepy.

  • Anthony Bucci

    I sense a need for hatred and resentment against Someone or someone who didn’t give the proverbial presents on Christmas morning. So lets blame God!!!

    • Kodie

      It’s funny that you can’t blame god but you give him credit when it’s conveniently placed in your lap. There is no god to thank or to blame, so your accusations are unrepresentative of the position. You demonstrate a clear lack of understanding. Obviously, you believe there is a god, so you’re going to excuse him every time events he would be in control of betray him as an utter asshoIe, but then there’s no good reason to believe in god. It’s just an effect of wishful thinking. If god existed, why would he behave the way he does? You are saying that we are asking too much, but that is really a lame answer. Take a look into it, if god was good and existed, you are worshipping a douchebag of a deity. But I’m not mad at him for being a douchebag, I can’t be mad at something that doesn’t exist. I am disturbed how fond you are of such a douchebag, though.

  • a sinner

    Wow, i can see myself draged into disrespectful arguments. If i offended anyone, please forgive me for anything i’ve said. As for dummest thing you ever heard, that’s your opinion, you keep living your life as you want to, its your life. I know there is a God and i have proof. If that’s makes me crazy, then so be it. Its better to live believing in a God that loves me, then nothing at all, because as i see it, this world reeks of evil and hatered. My God loves me and because of that, i’m able to share love with others, so if that makes me crazy then GREAT!!! This is the last time i’ll blog, and no i’m not a quiter, but i have to move on with my reality, what’s really happening with everything i experience. I wish everybody good health, a long life, and love, honestly. GOD BLESS.

    • Anthony Bucci

      God bless you too, Desert Father. I don’t think Jesus chased people around pushing His message of love and forgiveness. The faithful either followed or they didn’t. I’ve heard it said in another venue that if someone isn’t interested in what you are offering, don’t feel guilty or resentful about walking away. Give encouragement and teaching to those who want to hear The Word.

    • Jabster

      “I know there is a God and i have proof.”

      So you have proof of your god but instead of sharing it with readers of this blog you have decided not to as you have “have to move on with my reality,…”. When you wish everyone love I presume this is the same type of love that your god’s exhibits?

      • LRA

        Soooo…. which is it? She has undeniable, irrefutable proof that she won’t share with us thereby condemning us to hell…

        Or, her proof is actually NOT proof that any rational person could possibly accept because even a modicum of logic would allow someone to see the logical errors in it and she’s full of crap for her wishful thinking that a sky daddy would come along and solve all our problems instead of us taking responsibility for solving them ourselves?

        Hmmmm…… I wonder….. which could it be???

        • LRA

          I guess the “sinner” is a guy. Oops! Not sure why I thought him a her.

  • Brother James

    Hello Antony Bucci. Peace of Christ.

    You say >>>>God bless you too, Desert Father. I don’t think Jesus chased people around pushing His message of love and forgiveness. The faithful either followed or they didn’t. I’ve heard it said in another venue that if someone isn’t interested in what you are offering, don’t feel guilty or resentful about walking away. Give encouragement and teaching to those who want to hear The Word.<<

    And! I will say: Hallelujah!….Hallelujah!!..Hallelujah!…..I could not have said it better than what you did….but!!! I about 99.9999999999999999999999% that "NO-ONE" will give a hut about your post….why?!! They "ALL" belong to satan…it will be like in the Land of the "Blindg" The one eyed is king"….no matter what you show'em they will not see it…..\

    That is why the Holy Sabbath-Day was instituted (Noticed that I printed "THE HOLY" Sabbath….sunday was never, is not never will be a holy day…Jesus says: Come and I will give you rest…come where?!!! TO THE SABBATH…why?!! 'Cause He is there waiting for you to clean you of your sins and renew your spirit through the Passover Ceremony=The washing of the feet (John 13:1-19) The drinking of the wine (His Blood) and the eating of the no-yeast bread (His Body)
    John 6:32-58+The reading of Luke 22:17-20+John 14:15…..See! Sunday is the devil's day….the enemy of the God of the bible and His people, His church….

    God Bless………….Brother James

    • LRA

      LOLWHUT?

      No one here belongs to Satan. That is just stupid. Haven’t you heard, agnostics and atheists don’t believe in supernatural beings of ANY kind. To imply that a non-believer is in league with Satan is about as logical as implying that a non-believer is in league with any supernatural being, including your so-called “God” (who is the epitome of evil– as evidenced by its horrifying acts in the Old Testament).

      BTW, one does not require an imaginary friend to be a good person. That’s right… non-believers are not evil! In fact, non-believers have a stronger moral compass than most of you believers because we are good for goodness sake. We are good because there are logical reasons for being good (meaning, we don’t require the threat of hell to be good because we are smart enough to understand that being good helps out society as a whole, that being good is a natural part of normally functioning human beings due to our natural brain structures, and that being good has social and legal rewards while being bad has social and legal consequences).

    • trj

      Yep, it’s just incredibly important to the almighty creator of the universe whether you celebrate Sabbath on a Saturday or a Sunday.

      • LRA

        LOL! Not to mention that Jesus the Jew celebrated on SATURDAY. You know, cuz he was a JEW.

        But why would anyone expect facts and reason from the rambling, non-sensical writings of one like good ol’ Bro Jim.

  • bob

    I make thirteen dollars an hour. I read the Bible myself. That way I don’t have to give any money to someone who already is rich from teaching the Bilbe. Not Milissa Scott or anyone else. Mansions and Kentucky race horses. She ougt to be ashamed of herself. I teach myself the Bible.

  • walt

    if anyone blinds them self so they can not here what she says tthats to bad your missing out

    with out are past we would not be who we are ,.only thoses who live life care to help others i think shes great would love to talk to here she sharp

    have a lot to say dont like to type thank you
    walt .s

    • Custador

      Well, that was a semantic train wreck…

      • Elemenope

        Yeah, what I was gonna say. You can be over there with the light of Pastor Scott, an we’ll be over here in the outer darkness of proper grammar and correct spelling and complete sentences.

  • walt

    you dont even know what you read what are you 5 do you need it spelled out for you ,can you think and read ? wow

    • Len

      Yes, wow. But for a different reason.

    • Daniel Florien

      I’m sad.

    • Michael

      has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

      • Elemenope

        Certainably. Reading is marketed in the half we have so might, upon a whole other feather.

        • Custador

          I feel like I could have posted in Welsh and been more comprehensible to the average reader!

        • http://theskippyreview.wordpress.com Skippy

          I think we’re at peacewar with Eastasia mastication of the third eye.

  • Mark the Pilgrim

    It’s been said before, but it’s amazing how this article continues to bring all the religious to the yard and damn right -their book is better than yours. They can teach salvation but they’d have to charge.

    8-D

  • bob

    I like her teachings and all. She’s not on t.v. here in L.A. anymore. The only problem I have is all that money she has. Isn’t there something in the bible about how hard it is for a rich man(or woman) to get into heaven. I guess I just don’t get why a christian pastor has to have a 35,000 square foot mansion in Pasadena, a ranch, race horses, a private plane, etc. Didn’t a rich man ask Jesus how to get to heaven and he said to sell everything you have and give to the poor and follow me or something like that. I have more respect for a nun who takes a vow of poverty and then goes to help poor people in Calcutta or someplace like that.. I just don’t get why she or her late husband need to be so wealthy. I’ve read she is worth a few hundred million dollars.

    • Sunny Day

      Investigate, and keep asking questions. I think you’re on the right track.

  • Dave

    Now that you beat up on Scott–why don’t you go after the other 99% of the radio-television evangelists and expose them or is it easier to pick on someone that’s more vulnerable? Everyone involved in that (TV/radio evangelism) racket lives like kings (and queens),it comes with the territory and no one cares because they get richer as each year goes by.
    [Moronic insults deleted - Custador]

    • Custador

      We DO beat up the other 99% of televangelists. The fact that you’re too stupid to search the blog and find that out for yourself before you start reflects on you, not on us. If you repeat the crap that I deleted from your first post, I’ll delete it and smack you with the ban-hammer. Fair warning given.

  • carlos burgos

    i’ve watch you’re show for a couple of years, And i believe god is with you. your past as i see it has no bearing on what you say in the present. I hope you keep on delivering the message from the good news to everyone. GOD Bless and keep you.

    • Custador

      Well, this is interesting! Seems that Carlos thinks this is Pastor “Deep-Throat” Scott’s personal blog…. Mock ruthlessly or ignore, choices choices….

  • sinner

    What’s up ya’ll. Brother James and brother Bucci, and brother Carlos and everyone else. Greetings. Forgive me for leaving the arguments. I guess maybe I was speaking to adults with a more respectful way of expressing themselves. I was wrong, but i’ve realized that’s okay. You know what? I live in the greatest country in the world, a country that allows freedom of speech, no matter how that speech is expressed. So weather you agree there is a God or don’t agree with that belief, I’m sure we can all agree that love is the most important thing we can feel and share while we’re all alive in this physical relhm. I wonder if i spelled that right. Anyway I was wondering if we can all have a more respectful insightful and intelligent argument weather you agree or not about the nature of God or as some would say imaginary friend. I think it would be interesting. Its a thought

  • FORGOVEN

    I don’t usually read smutt like this: Why-because Iv’e fouund the ONENESS OF GOD All my life I thought I was right with GOD BORN again untill I knew JESUS but didnt realizeGOD is a SPIRIIT = JESUS IS GOD IN THE FLESH – AND THE HOLY GHOST–SPIRIT is JESUS AND GOD IN HOLY GHOST . I= like Mary Mandalin was FORGIVEN FOR MY SIN NEVER TO DO THEM ANY MORE AND TO FOLLOW JESUS -GOD IN THE FLESH.One night I turnred to Pastor Scott TV and realized that the the King James version is translated wrong the lose of meaning for the truth or shall i say wrong termenology. know I know its not RELIGION THAT SAVES YOU IST YOU OWN PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH JESUS YOUR LORD NOT RELIGION HOLYNESS OBIEDIENCE AND LOVE FOR HIS WORK AND LIVING IT ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;SO I SAY TO YOU PASTOR SCOTT KEEP ON KEEPN ON ITS Lucifer who is attacking you . Forgive these peiple for thiew ingnorance: lol your sister in the LORD

    • Michael

      wat

    • Nox

      I feel like I should disagree with FORGOVEN, but I honestly can’t figure out what the f*ck she said.

  • LA Knight

    Ah, how I miss those old days of Gene Scott wearing six or seven pairs of glasses, smoking a stinking cigar, screaming at his cameramen, screaming at viewers to get on the phone and send him some more money, and showing clips of his “pony girls” riding around half naked on what I guess were his sizable stable of thoroughbreds.

    And now Ms. Scott, eh? Pretty lady, but obviously needs somebody (probably her mom or dad) just to say, “it’s ok, if you screwed up a bunch but we still love ya anyway, always.” The sad part is that probably never happened, and never will.

    Hence the endless, desperate spectacle.

    • Dee Dee

      And people buy this shit too

  • David

    I get unbelieveable boners watching her on television–I want to see her nekkid !!!!!

  • Philip Alan

    Kindly examine the hands of “Barbi Bridges” and the hands of Pastor Melissa Scott. The latter’s fingers are dramatically longer than those of “Barbi Bridges.” I rest my case. They are not the same person. Now I don’t know about whether Melissa Scott was a “pony girl”, but I am pretty sure that the “Barbi Bridges” thing is just nonsense. I’m just an occasional viewer of Pastor Melissa Scott—not a fan here—but I do have an M. Div., and can attest that her Koine Greek is pretty good.

    • http://ohmatron.wordpress.com/ Custador

      Then perhaps you’d like to read an interview with Melissa Scott. Even the people who have been her friends throughout are quite open about the fact that she was Barbie Bridges – Friends including Paul Pastore, who was not only her husband at the time, but also the producer and distributor of her porn. I think it’s sad that she lies about it, to be honest, and I’m a little amused that it bothers you so much.

      You have an M. Div? Does that count as proof that God could create a degree so meaningless and useless that even he couldn’t get a job with it, do you think? ;-)

  • charles mwaura

    when one is in christ. all past is gone and behold all is new. what would have christ died for if we were all perfect. st. paul was a murderer before conversion.did he not preach. if you were a kenyan. i would av told.ACHA WIVU. stop being jealous

  • Leo

    “Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore”
    I agree with this bit.

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  • http://www.divineintro.com DivineIntro

    Not sure what to think about her…the husband sounds like he was a smart man, perhaps with attractions toward God and mammon. I’ve never seen her, and don’t really have any desire to, but I think her past is past, and that most of us would not care if total strangers picked through our dirty laundry.

    • Sunny Day

      Her husband is a con artist and she’s continuing his works bilking stupid people for their money. Her past is only relevant because she is a professional liar and her continual lies speak to her credibility.

      But then lots of thoughtless idiots try to claim that what happens in the past has no bearing on the future.

      “Today Melissa says she has taught herself 20 languages. Her detractors say she can’t even speak Spanish, never mind the dead ancient languages of the Bible, and that no one ever hears her in anything but English.

      Either way, linguistics was an interest the couple had in common. Melissa says they met after service, and shared a passionate bond — over stamp collecting.

      Scott said that circulating photos were “expert Photoshop” works by obsessed weirdoes. She told Voss, “I was never an actress in pornographic movies.” Yet photographers, ex-husbands, and friends confirm Barbie Bridges is indeed Pastor Scott. Today, the University Cathedral forbids cameras, and no one knows where Ms. Scott resides. She comes from nowhere, with no one. She doesn’t mention her family.”

      • http://ohmatron.wordpress.com/ Custador

        Which husband? The priest or the porn producer? Because at least one with of them you get something for your money ;-)

  • http://none PHILLIPE MOSS

    HELLO PEOPLE I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT IVE READ A FEW ARTICLES ABOUT THE FALSE ACCUSATIONS CONCERNINC MISS SCOTT AND IF PEOPLE WOULD START PRAYING FOR ONEANOTHER U MIGHT SEE LIFE ITSELF IS 2 SHORT FOR THROWING STONES AND WHO NEEDS MONEY ANYWAY THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL WE WASN’T SENT HERE TO PREACH THE GOSSIP BUT WE WAS SENT HERE TO PREACH THE GOS.P[LL OF GODS KINGDOM OF HIS LOVE PUTTING OUR SELVES THROUGH ALL THESE THINGS WAS 4 HIS KINGDOM NOT OURS ACCUSING ONE ANOTHER COPOUT TO WORSHIP OUR HEAVENLY FATHER .

    • Yoav

      All caps, no punctuation, incoherent rambling, all the true hallmarks of a sound and reasoned argument.

      • UrsaMinor

        I don’t even bother to read the ones that are all caps, it is too hard on the eyes. They are almost always incoherent, so it’s really nice that they carry their own built-in warning label.

  • http://none PHILLIPE MOSS

    GOD BLESS YOU ALL ANYWAY!

  • joe

    If her word reachs anyone in a productive light and changes just one life is that not enough? The money is given freely and if any sin is incured than her beliefs will catch up in some manner sooner or later….Her husband was a Scotish Rite Mason as well as an copius drinker and unusual persona…the ranch is as beautiful as her eyes…she was better looking than any of the playmates years ago prompting around…she’s not a reverend Ike deal nor as her late husband and she did attend Berkly for some archaic old world langue long ago…porn star? who cares, every Christian man wants one in his bed…and I doubt when the lights go out there are many a Christian who’s actions in bed are less lustful then many porn movies…give her words credit..

  • Tamarah C

    Unbelievable intelligence…looking 4ward to Following.

  • Jimbo McCoy

    Her preaching is complete bullshit but I’d fuck her anytime.

  • Nani

    I am so glad that is what a savior is all about!Thank God for the redeeming grace of Jesus Christ and Melissa SCott who showed me God loves us despite our past lifes and we most certainly can be born again.

    • Devysciple

      FFS, what’s going on with all the necro-threading by religidiots?! I guess it goes something along the lines of:
      “I must prove my superior faith and intellect by challenging Evil Atheists™ on their own turf. But since deep down I know that I don’t stand a chance, I’ll sneak up a comment in a thread that was dead before I even knew the particular website I’m posting my crap on. This way, the Evil Atheists™ will not notice and therefore not call me out on my bullshit. Since no counter-arguments are given, I declare victory for my perfect line of reasoning. Now I can pat myself on the back, feel all smug and awesome, and tell my fellow True Christians™ how I beat those filthy atheists in their own game. Checkmate, Atheists!”

    • Custador

      I really wish peo0ple would read the article (and ALL of the comments) before leaving theses vapid comments…

      • Devysciple

        peo0ple
        Is this just a typo, or are you suggesting some people are made out of poop?! ;-)

        • Custador

          Some people clearly are :-p

          • Devysciple

            By the Power of Greyskull, I hereby declare all necro-threading drive-by morons shall henceforth be referred to as peo0ple (alternative spellings: poople, peoOple, p00ple)!!!1one11oneoneone!one

            • Custador

              I asked Teh Srvr Munkehs, they love it, therefore motion carried. No pun intended.

            • Devysciple

              Again:
              All Hail Teh Mighty Srvr Munkehs!!!

    • Yoav

      I can understand capitalizing only the S in Scott, that’s how you write names. I can sort of understand going full fundie and capitalizing the whole thing, but is there some magical reason I’m missing for capitalizing only the first two letters?

      • UrsaMinor

        Poor proprioception skills.

        • Len

          Or thick fingers.

  • http://goldmountainfilmstudios@ymail.com Pastor David Duran

    Obviously we all have an opinion on matters in life, and it is our right to share it. And it does not matter how important you are, or how rich you are, or how powerful you may or may not be to those of us in the world or to yourself. To all of you making the cruel ignorant remarks about Pastor Melissa Scott I can say this….and I quote without a doubt, the wisest most respected teacher and authority on this matter “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” and he is here now , as he always is …and your actions would be the same today…to silently leave convicted by your conscience.
    and tho this woman’s sins where greater than those of Pastor Melissa Scott. ///Jesus …the highest authority on this matter at any time since time began….feels the same way..and I quote..”Woman, where are those accusers of yours? Has no one condemned you? and just as then the woman in question would say “No one, Lord.” and we all know what Jesus’s answer is…”Neither do I condemn you; go and sin no more.”.
    The lesson to be learned today is ….Before you attempt to slander another human being.. especially one that is as high in Gods grace as Pastor Melissa Scott; ..Do your research about a subject …before you put your foot in your mouth…unless you simply like the taste of your feet..

    May God continue to bless you Melissa,,,as he will….Thank you so very much for all the help you have given me in understanding the scriptures…Being a 40 year Pastor myself and one that thought he knew most everything about the scriptures….You are so refreshing and like the fountain of youth was poured out upon me….as you have helped me to realize I am still but an infant when it comes to biblical knowledge in comparison to you.. And just as Gene Scott was my hero and source for accurate biblical wisdom …So too, are you…..I hope to meet you soon as it will be a great honor, when I come to see and hear you in person…To each and every one of you reading ….these are my words and best wishes…Follow your dreams…believe in them…and listen to the music of your soul….With much love and respect ..Pastor David Duran, Gold Mountain Chapel

    • Custador

      How is it “cruel” or “ignorant” to point out that Melissa Scott was an adult actress and now lies about it? Those things are just facts.

  • Sunny Day

    Since sin is a teaching of your superstitious bronze age belief system, I am without sin and can throw whatever stones I want.

    Thanks.

  • L. Aubry, Jr.

    UR use of the idea of being “baptized in the Name of Jesus” interests me4 THAT is my spiritual mandate4 this end-time generation;and what do u mean by “the Oneness of God?” This concept in profound Biblical exposition is “the mystery of godliness” but no one knows THAT 4 a fact by actual Revelation Knowledge (RK) outside of a select, hidden, “underground” FEW in faith only bcuz the chosen & sent Anointed one of Malachi4 as prophesied by him as he accordingly references Moses who declared THAT Day would soon come upon us& now apparently is; and therefore it is become moreso importantly incumbant upon us to address instead these matters rather than the Scriptural”substance” of idle gossip witch and which thing is the 7th thing on the list the Lord dispises the most of the 7 He lists by the prophet (psalmist, poet): “he who spreads dissimulation among the brethren;” which, witch-”CRAFT” thing is an “abomination producing the desolation” of the days the end times (Dan.8:20-25);&so this discussion is centered around blindness as the impetus of focusing a driven mandate about “the Righteousness of God in Christ Jesus” THAT ONLY is ever the ONLY Truth of Salvation &the ONLY One True God our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ according to Titus2, Jude, Php.3:9, Gen.1:1/Jn.1:1-3, 1Jn.1:1 & an asundry of others by RK THAT is philosophically derided here by those who would spout out deceitfully “in HIGH” (Eph.6:12), “HIGH-minded-sounding words” of bloated vanity lost upon “the VOiD” of Gen.1:1 which thing is heretical and blasphemous; and witch-”CRAFT” thing He despises the most & MANY are here guilty of espousing; &the SINGULARITY ofthe GodHead in Christ Jesus THAT they deny&abhor to their own damnation in the last day THAT is now upon us& I pray4 all as u do so w/me in agreement of the “working out of your own Salvation in fear and trembling” “and blessed is He THAT is not offended in me” and as unto Him: “O Lord, remember me for Good.” Ama.
    2-6-12M 4:27a
    L. Aubry, Jr.

    • Len

      Wow.

      Is John C anywhere close by? We need a translation into (kinda sorta) English.

  • Xango99

    It is utterly irrelevant to her teaching if she was a porn star in her past. It is also very understandable why given the judgemental attitudes in religion she would find it necessary to deny (if it is indeed the case).
    As someone who has studied religion his entire life (last 30 years anyways) I can say that she is the real deal. She is dealing with actual religious and spiritual concepts and brings a fresh interpretation of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
    Besides which, she is very earthy and brings a woefully needed “WOMANS PERSPECTIVE” to biblical teachings and the church in general.
    Although I am not a Christian, I have respect for this woman. She is genuinely committed to Christian teachings AS A SPIRITUAL PATH.
    Much love to Pastor Scott.
    Especially if she is able to keep it clean and corruption free from here on out.

  • Beverly

    LET THOSE WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE. My point exactly. People are so judgemental.

    • Dee Dee

      That’s what judgemental pricks themselves say

  • Beverly

    People hate her because she know her stuff, crazy liberal writers and ignorant pastors have no clue about the context of the bible do your own research people. If the Greek language is so antiquity then the new testament is also. Then Jesus is a liar, according to some of you.

    • Len

      Er, yes.

    • Custador

      Wow, you really do fail at reading comprehension and awareness of where you are, don’t you?

    • Kodie

      Jesus was not the messiah he claimed to be, for starters! He said he was coming back soon, 2000 years ago. Plus, it’s a storybook, in any language.

  • Gideon Agene

    I respect the hand of God upon her. Rev Gideon Agene.

    • Sunny Day

      See, even god likes to touch porn stars.

  • http://Melissscott.com Tom Barre

    Missa, as i used to call her, lived next door to me at the condo in LA. She is really nice. I only talked to her about her work once. I think she really believes she is doing a good thing. She said it costs tens of thousands of dollars a month in expenses and salaries and there is no place to get the money except from the people that want the information she provides. Who cares if she posed nude when times were tough. Oprah did unspeakable things when times were tough, so did many celebs but we dont call for them to be smitten. If she had a dark past, and i never saw any sign of it, she is trying to have a good now

    • Will Hicks

      She gulped spooge for money. She didn’t pose nude. She had sex in camera. Fine Good admit it and own up for those sins and all is well. Hide it and lie well then not so good and dishonest!

  • TrytheTruthaboutMary
  • Major Bob Ipavec USMC ret.

    I learned a long time ago than when God forgives an individual, if we refuse to forgive them, then we are claiming to be greater than God, and declare Him to be wrong. Not a position I would care to take. Pharoahs, kings, leaders and presidents that have taken this position have not fared well at all. If God is willing to forgive, I would be wise to follow suit. The past is past. In Christ all things have become new. Even backsliders are favored in the sight of God, (I being chief among them). The only ones who are the real losers are those who turn their backs to God, and only God knows who they are for certain. Grace is a wonderful thing. Even before we were saved He loved us to the point of a sacrificial death, that we might be made whole In Him, for those who believe (In Christ).

    • Custador

      Do any of the Christians who google “Melissa Scott porn” and end up here think that we don’t know how they ended up here? And do they ever read past the headline? Onanism is allegedly a sin, Major Bob US Marine Retired, but around here ignorance is a bigger one.

  • http://www.puppyfind.com/ Nona Guers

    The Wildrose released a statement saying that Flanagan would have no role with the party going forward. “There is no language strong enough to condemn Dr. Flanagan’s comments,” reads the statement.

  • http://Ihavenone Ma Shyaw Ling Tate

    I tgink Pastor Melissa Scott is just plain BEAUTYFUL AND GREAT PAST , PRESENT , AND IN THE FUTURE. I saw her on TV in Hawaii, and was fasinated, and saw her sermon in Augsburg Germany when Televised. There is no better Pastor that has the dignaty , grace , sincerety and beauty that Pastor Melissa Scott has girl keep it up and keep it going YOU ARE FACINATING THE WORLD YOU GREAT WOMAN! You have inspired me, and I became a Rev.minister myself While I watched you on TV while I was on Oahu own my house there, presently living in my house own in Augsburg Germany, I travel often to the UAE united arab emirates and give services in tge churches for tge christian faith people that live there. wishing you happiness and godspeed from a admirer Rev.Tate

  • http://www.facebook.com/munguiaf1 Phil Munguia

    It is interesting that the same church that preaches forgiveness of sins is the one criticizing pastor Scott. I don’t know anyone who really loves Christ and professes a new birth that at some point he or she was involved heavely in sin. I thank God for pastors Scott’s ministry and if it wasn’t for the church haters I wouldn’t have known pastors passed sins for which Christ died.

    Pastor Scott is a great teacher, sister and it is not her fault Gid gave her the gift of beauty. – press on Pastor Scott that not everyone out there has a corrupted mind as those so called ministers if light – they are probably still bound to porn and worst sins.

    So when they continued asking Him, He raised Himself up and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him throw a stone at her first.” (John 8:7 NKJV)

  • daverg

    she’s the real deal, and who are you to judge anyone? That is God’s job, and his son , Jesus Christ who will on his thrown on judgement day. So buzz off writer.


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