Pastor Melissa Scott, Porn Star

by Lorette C. Luzajic
Part 6 of the Pillars of Faith series.

She Works Hard For the Money

Anna Nicole does… Jesus? Well, sort of. America’s hottest televangelist is Pastor Melissa Scott, who struts her stuff on late night TV, and at the L.A. University Cathedral on Sunday mornings. She’s smart and beautiful, with impossibly long dark curls. No wonder she turned the head of the church’s former pastor, Dr. Gene Scott.

Gene crossed that river Jordan in 2005; Melissa had the keys to the kingdom. Mansions, Kentucky horse ranches, a collection of fancy cars, a private airplane, 24-hour bodyguards — and the church — are all now hers.

The Eccentric Hubby

Gene was an eccentric bibliophile, historian, con man and crackpot. He earned a million plus per month soliciting during sermons, during which he would swear freely, talk about alien conspiracies, and show videos of his “pony girls” on horseback — not to mention hiring scantily clad vixen “cheerleaders” to line the pews and lure ‘em in to the circus. He was also known as a brilliant linguist who knew Aramaic and Hebrew.

Today Melissa says she has taught herself 20 languages. Her detractors say she can’t even speak Spanish, never mind the dead ancient languages of the Bible, and that no one ever hears her in anything but English.

Either way, linguistics was an interest the couple had in common. Melissa says they met after service, and shared a passionate bond — over stamp collecting.

Meanwhile Back at the Ranch

Pullquote: Photographers, ex-husbands, and friends confirm Barbie Bridges is indeed Pastor Scott.

But Playmate Elke Jeinsen told Gretchen Voss otherwise, in this month’s Marie Claire. Dr. Gene entertained Penthouse Pets and such at his ranch, and Melissa “was there, always dancing for Doc topless, showing her tits right away.” Melissa Scott, otherwise known as Barbie Bridges. Or so they say.

Scott said that circulating photos were “expert Photoshop” works by obsessed weirdoes. She told Voss, “I was never an actress in pornographic movies.” Yet photographers, ex-husbands, and friends confirm Barbie Bridges is indeed Pastor Scott. Today, the University Cathedral forbids cameras, and no one knows where Ms. Scott resides. She comes from nowhere, with no one. She doesn’t mention her family.

Ain’t Nobody’s Business if I Do

Pullquote: Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert.

Why would someone be obsessed over a secret that’s already out? What could Scott lose — she has enough money to do nothing but shop for the rest of her life. If scholarship interests her, she can study at the most elite schools around the world — on horseback! If losing celebrity is a concern, showing up with her old hairdo and bikinis would guarantee center stage ‘til thy kingdom come. Is it possible, then, that no matter how far out and bizarre it seems, that she’s the real deal, and simply wants to share the Good News?

At first I felt sarcastic — “isn’t lying one of the Ten Commandments?” But giving it some thought revealed the error of my self-righteousness.

I must respect a woman’s right to refuse information about her private life or her past. Women get derailed publicly and professionally for their private lives. Sure, I‘d love it if super-sexy Scott — and other babes — ushered in a new shame-free paradigm. But that won’t happen in church anytime soon.

Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert. Even to lie, yes, because if you’re not the Virgin Mary, you’re the other thing. Scott’s past is none of our business.

Giving to the Poor

And if a grown man wants to marry a sexy scholar, and leave her all of his money, I can’t tell a senior citizen what to do. But Jesus noted a few times that greed wasn’t the best way through the pearly gates — or the eye of a needle. In fact, he said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell everything and give the money to the destitute, then come and follow me.”

I’ll believe that Melissa is in it for the gospel and not for the circus spectacle when she gives her inheritance to the poor. And I’m willing to bet that will be the day that hell freezes over.

Lorette C. Luzajic writes about all kinds of interesting people at Fascinating People.

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  • Jerome

    She looks less hot in the video than on the picture here.

    • lion

      I dont think shes hot, I know shes hot and beautiful, You go girl!

  • Kodie

    She’s such a funny little weirdo spaz. I always watch her go on for a minute or so if I’m aimlessly flipping channels and she’s on.

    • Elemenope

      I recall channel-surfing with my S.O. one night and coming upon Ms. Scott very animatedly making some point about Ephesians, and was momentarily transfixed by the spectacle. The intensity and conviction with which she could spout nonsense was awe-inspiring. And the glasses she would whip out for a dramatic perusal of text were very naughty librarian.

      • Michael

        All of those bullshit purveyors of religion are just bad actors…. trying out a new Gig to make money. And there are plenty of dumb mother-f–kers ready to part with their hard earned money.

  • Baconsbud

    I agree she is more into it for the money then the belief. Until we as people make money less important then life it will continue this way. I feel sorry for those that donate money they can ill afford to give to an organization that doesn’t really need it.
    I do think if someone puts themselves in a position such as she has should expect to be questioned. I don’t think people should make a big deal about a persons past unless they are willing to open their past also. Not many people want their past examined to closely, we all have things we don’t want others to know.

    • http://zayzayem.wordpress.com zayzayem

      There’s only two paragraphs about the porn star allegations (one section); the majority of the article is about her relationship with the eccentric Dr. Gene Scott.

      It’s relevant to bring up that one bit of her past to point out how irrelevant it is.

  • Elemenope

    Scott’s past is none of our business.

    So, um…then why is better than half the article about just that?

    • Phrankygee

      ‘Zactly what I was gonna say. I have to call Hypocrisy and BS in a major way on this article, and really all the others in the series too.

      The “Pillars of the Faith” series might as well be called the “Ad Hominem Report”. I admit that they are very interesting, and a “Christian Wierdos” segment is fine and dandy, I suppose, if you are just trying to entertain, but it is hardly enlightening to anyone struggling with issues of belief/disbelief in the Supernatural.

      • rodneyAnonymous

        Why not “Hypocrisy Report”, and why is that not enlightening?

        • Elemenope

          Because as the article somewhat back-handedly points out, it has no relevance to her later employment, which is what brings her into scrutiny for the series in the first place. That is, she is being written about because she is a preacher, not because she was a porn star. It would be hypocrisy if she were a porn star *while* she were preaching, and then it would be relevant to the conversation. On the other hand, nobody has the power to change their past, and some pasts are inescapable without a little lying. This is particularly true in cases of sexual promiscuous women, which our culture condemns in a thoroughly misogynistic fashion. So to bring it up in order to make commentary about a person’s past can serve no purpose in this cultural milieu except to feed the desire for salacity, and has no probative value.

          • rodneyAnonymous

            t would be hypocrisy if she were a porn star *while* she were preaching

            Yes, good point. This article is weak in a way that others in the series are not.

  • Phrankygee

    I just clicked through to her site, and the embedded video that pops up there doesn’t go for 15 seconds before she talks about “Girding Loins”. I pretty much had to stop right there.

  • http://www.wortvogel.de Torsten

    If I understand it correctly, there is compelling evidence that she is a former sex star, but no substantial proof. Wouldn’t it be appropriate to put a question mark in the title of this blog post?

    • Phrankygee

      No, I think there is evidence to the *point* of proof, but no personal admission (confession?). Not sure why, though. It’s not like a sexy woman can’t also be a biblical scholar.

      Just a side note: the picture of her hubby on the ministry’s site looks a lot like a bearded Bill Clinton.

    • Origin

      Actually this is some proof about her and some hilarious ex-staff comments. This person is a real lunatic who made this site:

      The Truth About Pastor Melissa Scott

  • cello

    I have to question the questioning of her past in this article too. I’ve seen plenty of Christians dredge up her past to prove some point about how she isn’t a “true Christian” for whatever their reason du jour is – wrong doctrine, wrong behavior, women shouldn’t be pastoring, whatever. So I’m not a big fan of that technique which as far as I can tell, doesn’t really prove anything about anything anyway, no matter who is using it.

    • http://billpost.blogspot.com/ Bill

      Plus a “bad past” is often used by xians to show how “Jesus turned my life around.”

      Really, who cares if she was a porn star in a past life? Sounds like what she is doing now is way worse anyway.

      • Sunny Day

        I care!

        It would give me an opportunity to show up with an 8×10 glossy and ask for her autograph. or Have her sign a DVD Case.

        Better yet, Watch one of her videos on my ipod during a service.

  • wazza

    I think the background helps understand the later argument to let her hide her past if she wants to

    More importantly, those of you crying “Ad Hominem!” need to think about what ad hominem actually means. It’s not a personal attack; it’s a personal attack with no relevance to your argument. Pastors are meant to be moral examples for others, and so exposing their hypocrisy isn’t ad hominem.

  • John T.

    Oh please.

  • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

    And if a grown man wants to marry a sexy scholar, and leave her all of his money, I can’t tell a senior citizen what to do. But Jesus noted a few times that greed wasn’t the best way through the pearly gates — or the eye of a needle. In fact, he said “If you want to be perfect, go and sell everything and give the money to the destitute, then come and follow me.”

    I’ll believe that Melissa is in it for the gospel and not for the circus spectacle when she gives her inheritance to the poor. And I’m willing to bet that will be the day that hell freezes over.

    I’m trying to figure out what the goal of this series of posts is.

    Is it?

    A) To expose hypocrites?
    B) To expose hypocrites and imply that all of Christianity is a farce because we’re all hypocrites?
    C) To point out the inconsistencies of various ‘Christian leaders’?
    D) None of the above (in which case, please fill in the blank)?

    With respect to this story specifically and some other posts about preachers and money, why is there so much pushback to preachers soliciting money from UF readers? It is possible, I think, to look at it from a purely economical perspective. The preacher offers a service. The consumer values the services and compensates the preacher monetarily.

    So some preachers make way too much money. So do athletes. So do CEOs on Wall Street.

    Is it the inconsistency of the preacher that bothers you all? Or, is it that they’re making money offering a service that you think is BS? Or is it option D, i.e., something I’m just missing?

    For the record, I’m not defending the people in the post. Like Bentley yesterday, they seem to deserve all the criticism they can get. I’m just using this post as a segway into a discussion about something I’ve been wondering for a while.

    • LRA

      Except that the bible specifically states that prophets going around asking for money are false prophets… (In the acts of the apostles). So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister.

      • http://progressatallcost.blogspot.com/ markbey

        ” So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister. ”

        This has been my feeling for a long time now. I believe that all preachers (because they have been supposedlly been annointen by god) should take a vow of modesty in what salary and gifts they will accept from the church.

        • Daniel Florien

          And yet, their profession requires anything but modesty and humility. They get up and tell people what God wants them to do, what God is like, how they can know they can go to heaven, etc.

          A humble preacher is an oxymoron, IMO.

          • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

            You’ve been listening to the wrong preachers :)

            • Daniel Florien

              Oh, I’m sure I’ve listened to the ones you like. I even like a number of them. And I know they profess humility, and I used to think they were humble. And maybe they are in some Christian sense.

              But I don’t think speaking for God and telling others what they must do and believe is compatible with humility.

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              But I don’t think speaking for God and telling others what they must do and believe is compatible with humility.

              I don’t like those people either… But, no sense beating a dead horse.

        • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

          This has been my feeling for a long time now. I believe that all preachers (because they have been supposedlly been annointen by god) should take a vow of modesty in what salary and gifts they will accept from the church.

          A lot of them (us) do; we just don’t make the news… or the front page of UF :)

          • StrangeFire

            You keep em’ humble Lord and We’ll keep em’ poor… Amen
            ‘annointen’ huh? Are sure your not Curly of the Three Stoogies?

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        From 1 Timothy 5:

        17Let the elders who rule well be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching; 18for the scripture says, “You shall not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and, “The laborer deserves to be paid.”

        • Phrankygee

          Makes me think a preacher wrote 2 Timothy. And 1st Tim, and Titus, too. Convenient, huh?

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        Question for markbey and LRA based on LRA’s comment:

        So the tithing should go to the church proper, and a fairly modest salary should go to the minister.

        How would you two define modest? What do you mean specifically?

        • Siberia

          Y’know, I don’t know over there, but over here, in my mother’s old church (we moved out of state), the ministers didn’t earn anything because ministering wasn’t supposed to be their profession. The church’s founder himself was a practising doctor, one was an engineer, etc.

          There were a few who were in it professionally, I recall now, but I don’t think their salaries were that high…

          Maybe that would be a good thing?

    • Daniel Florien

      I see the point as interesting glimpses at religious leaders who some people respect, from a perspective we don’t usually hear. Obviously just because so many Christian leaders are hypocrites and frauds, doesn’t mean they all are.

      As for making money, fundie preachers making money does bother me, only because of the hypocrisy of their Dear Leader telling them that poverty is good and that riches is bad. But I don’t think making money is bad, only when you do it by duping people or by methods that goes against what you preach.

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        That makes good sense.

        What about prosperity gospel preachers who say we should all be rich?

        • rodneyAnonymous

          The world economy is effectively zero-sum. Every dollar you spend beyond the absolute bare necessity for survival drips with the blood of a starving child.

          Prosperity preachers are either short-sighted or selfish or both.

          • Elemenope

            Whoa.

            Fiscal expenditure is zero-sum, in the short run. Economic activity is almost *never* zero-sum, especially over the long run. The two should not be conflated.

            I do agree that prosperity preachers are leeches, because their income is generally non-productive.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Worldwide or within a country/microeconomy?

            • Elemenope

              Worldwide. Economic activity produces capital, it doesn’t merely push it around from one place to another. Productive labor adds value (which generates capital), so economic systems are positive-sum in total. If they weren’t, there would literally be no reason to engage in them.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Mmm, I dunno, it seems like the only way for some people to be rich is for other people to be poor. Labor is converted to capital, and labor is disproportionately shared among humanity. The only way to create more capital without more labor is to improve energy generation or energy generation efficiency. If everyone is rich, no one is. True?

            • Elemenope

              If everyone is rich, no one is. True?

              Depends on what you mean by ‘rich’. if by rich you mean a relative term of comparison, then obviously that’s true. If on the other hand if you mean “wants for no need”, then it is clearly false.

              To use a Marxian analysis for a moment, Marx argued that capitalism was the penultimate step to the solution of two ancient problems, namely scarcity and conflict. In the state of nature, scarcity of needed goods is the limiting factor of society; in order for some to have, others must go without. This in turn leads to cycles of conflict to compete over those scarce resources. At a certain point, humans realized that organized labor was more efficient at collecting resources and producing things from them (hence making them less scarce), and so conflict was channeled from seizing resources to seizing labor, hence the birth of slavery. This was made possible by technological advances, such as agriculture, technologies of war, construction, and transportation.

              Slavery itself, though, has its own inefficiencies (caused, for the most part by the information problems inherent to centralization), and led to partial resolution in feudalism, and later complete resolution in modern capitalism. Capitalism, due to its distributed solution to the information price-problem outperforms the prior systems to the extent that it basically solves the problem of scarcity. It is only the penultimate step, Marx argued, because the inequalities of the system are likely to be perpetuated in perpetuity, absent a systemic change, because people who benefit from owning the means by which goods are produced (capital) benefit too much from the consequences of inequality to be motivated to reduce it. Conflict, then, is the manifestation of the wealthy attempting to maintain and further their advantage at the expense of others, and was no longer about scarcity.

              Marx’s solution was to force a revolution and reestablish central control over distribution of production in order to redistribute more equitably the goods produced; he argued that since the problem of scarcity had been solved by the fruits of capitalism, this would end up being equitable for all. What he failed tor realize was that his solution destroyed the very thing that allowed capitalism to solve the problem of scarcity in the first place, market-mechanisms using the price signal to deal with the information problem; the history of the last 100 years or so bears out that his solution did not work, and would not work absent a profound change in the capacity for production (such as a technological singularity).

              Capitalists argue generally that while the benefits of capitalism are distributed unequally (and are likely to remain so), they are still distributed roughly globally. That is, the presence of a functioning economy causes a relative gain in impoverished places even as it benefits the already rich.

              Personally I think that there is some evidence this is true, but their optimism is mitigated in me by the corrupting influence that money invariably has on politics, causing rent-seeking (and destroying, in a different way, capitalism as it is normally defined) by changing the rules of operation to favor the already-powerful.

            • wazza

              Economics can never be zero-sum, because the real basis of the economy are things like grain, wood and information that just keep on growing. I can take ten seeds and turn them into 100 very easily. That’s not a zero-sum exchange.

              The trick to dealing with inequalities is a) to make sure everyone gets at least some of the pie and b) enlarge the pie until everyone’s share is enough to feed them.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Ok, scratch the zero-sum claim. At some point in the future, the starving child will be a well-fed child. But right now it’s starving. Some people have more because other people have less. Perhaps that is not necessarily true, but it is practically true, or at least (legitimately) arguably true. That is, I am making a case based on philosophic reality, not economic theory, that excess wealth ultimately comes from inadequate wealth. Agree/disagree?

            • Elemenope

              That is, I am making a case based on philosophic reality, not economic theory, that excess wealth ultimately comes from inadequate wealth. Agree/disagree?

              I agree that the drive to possess for the sake of possession is an artifact of inequality, and so if everyone had what they wanted, nobody (or vanishingly few) would strive to have more for its own sake. That’s like Star Trek Replicator/Diamond Age Nanotech territory though. You’d need a technological singularity to transpire, basically, before the practical capacity to give everyone everything they want would be an achievable condition.

            • Phrankygee

              You guys just fried my brain. I have to go play videogames now, until my brain stops hurting from all the smarty-smart-smart thinky-think stuff you guys just did.

    • DarkMatter

      “The preacher offers a service. The consumer values the services and compensates the preacher monetarily.

      So some preachers make way too much money. So do athletes. So do CEOs on Wall Street.”

      You say you are not defending these people, but hiding the fact that churches and ministries can enrich themselves from their members makes you one of them, indirectly.

      Now is the time that christianity reveals the economic of religion so that, consumers(christians and unbelievers) can make their choices reasonably.

      To know a little bit of economic of religion, you can listen:
      http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2006/10/the_economics_o_7.html

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        You say you are not defending these people, but hiding the fact that churches and ministries can enrich themselves from their members makes you one of them, indirectly.

        My comments that you quoted aren’t meant in defense of these folks specifically but were rather a bit of a jab at the criticism I’ve perceived here, i.e., that some ministers make too much money. I agree that that’s the case, but it’s curious to me that we would single out ministers. That’s all I was saying.

    • Baconsbud

      Brgulker athletes and CEO don’t go around saying how humble we are all suppose to be. They don’t go around telling everyone to give until it hurts. I do agree they are way overpaid but until people understand that they are paid this much because we are willing to pay way to much for what they provide. They will continue to receive these salaries.

      In another comment you asked what a modest salary might be. I would say enough to ensure that all his basic needs are taken care of. I would say he would need to have an expense account, since many pastors do end up doing a lot more travel then most people. If a pastor is really there because he truly believes, he shouldn’t be worried about making large sums of money. I do understand that money can easily corrupt anyone, if a pastor truly believes he would turn down anything more then he needs to live a decent life. He would then use the money he turns down, I doubt many would do this, to help those in his community. It wouldn’t matter if they were part of his congregation or not. Nor should there be any real strings to getting it. He wouldn’t even have to let them know it was from the church.

  • LRA

    Whatever else I think of the rest of the article, I agree with the following statement:

    “Until all the men who buy naked women start standing up for her instead of calling her a whore, it’s any woman’s right to deny, deter, or divert. Even to lie, yes, because if you’re not the Virgin Mary, you’re the other thing.”

    I’m sick of misogynists painting all women as either saints or whores. And frankly, I don’t get it. So, according to this thought, women you sleep with should be whores and women you marry should be saints? Doesn’t that make for a boring marriage with a high probability of cheating? Why not go for a girl that is somewhere in between that?

    I dunno… just bringing it up because I’ve met men like this before and was surprised to learn that they’re more common than I would have guessed in today’s day and age.

    • ftsor

      I’ve actually been reading a pretty interesting book about this (“The Purity Myth”, by Jessica Valenti). The double standard and Madonna-whore complex are not only alive and well in America, but also federally funded in the forms of “purity balls” for teenagers and abstinence-only sex education. It’s pretty depressing that attitudes like these are still so prevalent.

      • LRA

        Yes… what really makes me mad is that men aren’t held to the same standard of “purity” as women. Ridiculous.

  • Lorette

    Hi friends, and thanks always for so many interesting and thoughtful comments, both in praise and condemnation. I read and consider every comment. It did cross my mind that mentioning the porn scandal even as I revealed finding respect for Scott’s privacy might show no respect for her privacy. But then I considered that the cat’s already out of the bag in a big way and I’m sure not breaking any news. I was personally amazed at my own knee-jerk reaction, instilled deeply from fundamentalism in childhood, a reaction I thought was long gone in years of progressive liberalism and biology and freedom seeking. I felt it was important to confess that.

    As for the reason for the series- D- other. The messenger of the gospel is an incredibly important part in translating, transcribing, bringing the message. And interpreting it. All of the seams I’d made to hold it together in my heart fell apart during a series of incidents of racism and homophobia unapologetically spoken by “Christians.” I had always used the “they’re not a real Christian” fall out. But now I wasn’t so sure I was a real Christian, and started researching more heavily than ever before the history of the church. And the early church had so many different perspectives and sects and interpretations. Then there was the possibility that Jesus didn’t even exist historically. The pagan history which I had already studied a lot of and began looking at more thoroughly. But most importantly, I asked about the messengers.

    Who could I trust? The ones who wrote the Bible? Put it together? The priests? The early fathers? The Inquisitors? The more I looked for someone trusted who could bring the message forward, the more my eyes opened. From today’s preachers to the earliest Christian philosophers, I found incredible things I hadn’t learned in church. I knew all about Luther’s brave work for reform. But not his disgusting and clear hatred of Jews, in plain language that makes Eminem look like an altar boy. Calvin, my dad’s fave- he had to be pure of heart! I found otherwise- the witch burnings weren’t just Catholic after all! Tertullian- well, women are open sewers with no soul. Book burnings, torture, sexism, slavery, greed.

    While I won’t deny I enjoy a bit of gossip and scandal, and clearly I’m not alone, I do believe it is important to speak of the unspeakable, to know some of the whole story. I went looking for “real Christians” and I didn’t find any. Of course I know we are all human. But I won’t take my gospel from Charles Manson or Ted Bundy or Hitler and so I won’t take it from John Calvin or Pat Robertson or Constantine either. I hope these brief sketches have a shred of wit and curiousity and that they entertain. But I do believe that beyond that debatable value, it is indeed imperative to know the darker side of those we blindly follow.

    Thanks again,
    Lorette

    • DarkMatter

      I enjoy reading your postings.

      Thanks Lorette.

    • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

      Thanks for the response, Lorette. It gives some context for me, which is what I asked for specifically. I appreciate your response.

      I went looking for “real Christians” and I didn’t find any.

      I suppose we would both agree; that’s tragic.

      But, if you’re ever still looking, I’d be happy to introduce you :)

      • Question-I-thority

        You stated in one of your early posts that (I’m paraphrasing) you hope that Jesus rose from the dead. Does that mean that true Christians are philosophical agnostics/pragmatic believers?

        • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

          I don’t dare speak for other Christians on this topic, because I’m probably a bit of a heretic on this issue, really.

          But, I’ll take a stab, as long as it’s understood that I’m speaking for me and only me. And I’ll get at this in a very roundabout way… or perhaps it’s just rambling :)

          In the past, I’ve spoken of the epistemic limits of faith. Faith is faith, not scientific knowledge. I don’t know God exists anymore than the next person. I’ve never met God. I’ve never heard God speak, as others claim to have. I don’t “know” God exists; I believe God exists.

          But, I do have a handful of things that contribute to my faith, things I have observed along life’s journey that have influenced my choice.

          I’ve had experiences in my life that defy explanation (cue rodney with some cynical LSD comments) that have contributed to my choice for faith. I have experienced Jesus’ love through other people and been deeply changed by his teachings. I’ve personally witnessed at least one miracle, perhaps two, and they happened in the name of Jesus (I realize that’s not proof for God, let along the Abrahamic God, so don’t misunderstand me to be saying that, and let’s not have the God of the gaps conversation, if that’s okay). To name just a few …

          Obviously, those experiences are entirely subjective, and they aren’t transferable to someone else. Furthermore, for those events to have anything to do with my faith, I have to attribute them to Jesus. I get that.

          I’ve also spoken before about worldview as a choice. And for me, the Christian narrative of Creation-Sin-Redemption is as convincing an explanation of the human condition as I’ve ever heard. And it resonates deeply with me and my life’s experiences. It obviously does not for almost everyone else here… and that’s fine with me. You’re free to reject it just as I am free to choose it.

          So, am I an agnostic? It depends on (at least) two questions, as I see it.
          1) Can revelation be a valid type of knowledge, even if of a different category than what you would consider to be knowledge?
          2) Can subjective experiences be considered to be knowledge?

          If you answer both of those as, “No,” (which I think you will?), then yes I am an agnostic — by that definition of knowledge, because I am left literally without knowledge (a- gnosis)

          If, however, either 1 or 2 (or both) are possible, then I’m not.

          I’m trying really hard not to play the semantics game… I hope I’m not.

          Am I pragmatic? Yep. As I’ve said, the Christian narrative of Creation-Sin-Redemption resonates deeply with my life experiences, i.e., it works for me. I’m not really an evangelist as would be popularly conceived. I don’t feel compelled to “reach the world for Christ” in the same way as other Evangelicals do. In short, I think it’s more important to love one’s neighbor than to convince him that you are right, which is a big reason why I work with non-profits rather than in a church. But I also have a very different soteriology, i.e., I tend to be universalistic.

          I’m rambling… I’m pragmatic in that I believe what I believe because I’ve been convinced by Jesus, but I realize that not everyone is, and I don’t feel compelled to change your mind. I’m happy to share my beliefs with you and get involved in a good debate — but my goal isn’t to change your mind. Frankly, if what I believe about God is true, then one day all of us “…shall see him as he is…” and experience mercy, not damnation.

          And if I’m wrong about God, afterlife, Jesus, etc., I don’t feel that I’m any worse off than anyone else; I’ll be dead, and dead will be dead.

          But, when I’m on my deathbed (assuming I die a death that allows that), I want to be able to reflect back on my life and know that I contributed something of value to other people; I want to know that I loved my neighbor as I loved myself. Do you need Jesus to make that happen for you? I don’t know. I can’t speak for you. But I can speak for me, and I know I do. So, I follow him.

          That’s as honest as I can be. I bared a bit of my soul there, so please be sensitive :)

          • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

            but my goal isn’t to change your mind.

            I should have added “change your mind about Jesus.”

            I’m more than happy to try to change your mind about other things, as you may have noticed. :)

          • rodneyAnonymous

            And if I’m wrong about God, afterlife, Jesus, etc., I don’t feel that I’m any worse off than anyone else; I’ll be dead, and dead will be dead.

            But “Yahweh exists” and “Yahweh does not exist” are not the only two options. What if you die and find yourself before Baal, who is pissed that you worshipped a rival god? Or it is Yahweh, and some other Christian sect is right, and you’re going to Hell for heresy? You’re suggesting you believe the only alternatives are Heaven and oblivion.

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              Yes, I am assuming that. If it’s really Baal up there, then I’m screwed.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              What if you’re generally right about Yahweh and Jesus, but wrong about specifics?

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              If I’m generally right about YHWH and Jesus, then mercy wins, and I don’t need to be worried at all.

            • Siberia

              Or Cthulhu… but that’s OK, we’ll all be eaten.
              Actually, your explanation makes a lot of sense. I can see it reflected in my mother’s actions and beliefs. That’s the Christianity I can accept and be OK with… even if I still am dubious as f-k about everything (in special the whole miracle and sin things, but heh). Nice to know there are rational people out there – even if they believe in silly things :p

            • rodneyAnonymous

              I guess I consider “Yahweh is merciful” to be specifics :P

            • Elemenope

              He did say he was universalist, after all.
              ——
              The Baal counterexample has always bothered me, for the simple fact that if there were a deity which at any point was at all interested in human affairs and human worship, it is incredible that such a deity were extant and yet have no worshipers. So, it is reasonable, given the relative absence of Baal worshipers to infer either that Ball does not exist, or Baal does exist and does not care about humans (which amounts, in the end, to the same result).

              Baal’s existence is a dead hypothesis, in the Jamesean sense.

            • rodneyAnonymous

              Yes, the Isrealites destroyed the Canaanites, so Yahweh has many worshippers and Baal has few.

            • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

              He did say he was universalist, after all.

              I said I lean that way. I’m not convinced yet. :)

            • Elemenope

              I said I lean that way. I’m not convinced yet. :)

              Fair enough. I did not mean to assign a solid position to you if you are merely considering the hypothesis. I grew up in a UU church (which is its own brand of wacky), but in view of wider Christian hypotheses I find Universalism generally problematic, though no less so than separationism. The trouble is with positing a moral God and attempting to deduce consequences from that premise.

            • Ty

              Funny how the gods win or lose based on how capable their followers are of genocide.

              Kind of like video games where you take on the role of a god.

            • Elemenope

              Most religions do not die out because their followers are suddenly wiped out in a genocide.

            • Brother James

              Hello There. Peace of Christ..

              Jehovah and Yahweh are man made, jehvoah was made by Raymond Martini in 1270 and finished in 1533-36 by Martin Luther when he changed the english I and U of Iehouah of William Tyndale the first person who printed a bible in english, and a friend of Martin Luther….Luther replaced the english I and U for the German J and V..and the name jehovah was born, to please all the people of the so called protestant denominations, another sect of catholics dressed different, but riding the same train to hell……

              Gessenius come up with the name yahweh in 1725-70……There is onle One Name above all Names….Joshuah=Jesus….

              God Bless………Brother James

          • Question-I-thority

            Thank you for a well thought out response. I sense that you are not sure that (your) personal revelation and experience can be a valid category for ‘knowing’?

            The transcendence/Immanence problem was one that helped ease me away from Christian liberalism. The epistemological problem with revelation is in trying to interpret and categorize that which is by nature beyond our ability to do. Assuming that debunking was not possible, how does one go about evaluating a revelatory claim? I think this is where the flashes of anger shown toward you sometimes are coming from. To say that one believes by faith looks like one believes because one believes. Massaging traditional texts and falling back on erudite scriptural possibilities looks weak and suggests that liberal Christians are so primarily for reasons of comfort. Unless there is some rational way to unlock the revelatory (spiritual) claims so that reasonable people can examine them and say, ‘Oh yes, there is a revelatory action’, the responsible position is skepticism toward spiritual claims, is it not? Is there some AntiReason us skeptics don’t know about? This is why we keep asking for detailed supportive and confirmatory evidence for extraordinary claims. That’s the little hill. The big hill is how to effectively interpret any supposed anomalies if they were to in fact turn up.

            When I confronted these problems some 25 years ago, I was having dinner with friends and we were discussing the transcendence/immanence problem and I said that if Jesus appeared right then and made a claim to godhood, I would not have the ability to confirm or deny his claim.

            Of course, there is no current way of getting beyond the mere possibility that Jesus ever did say such a thing and if he did in fact say it, how to give his claim weight.

            PZ Myers has an interesting take today on Christian liberalism. I’ll extend a metaphor he uses: Christian liberalism is the comforting, don’t be afraid elevator musak at Bible Towers.

            I hope that my tone doesn’t come across as mean spirited as that is not my intention. We have much in common and many battles to fight together.

      • Ty

        “But, if you’re ever still looking, I’d be happy to introduce you :)”

        Oh please. So YOU’RE the lucky one with the correct definition of true Christian? The arrogance hiding in that statement is fairly breathtaking.

        Oh, and John C is the one who knows what real Christians are. Everyone knows that.

  • Custador

    She can fall to her knees and worship my idol anytime :D

    • Question-I-thority

      as if :)

  • Michael Nietzsche

    I called her number: 1-800-338-3030 several times this morning…. to ask her to plant her cute ass on my face! She keeps turning me down!!!! ;-( What do I do now Geebus?

  • Len

    I like the post office box number shown on the website: PO box 1. Must be some divine influence there :-)

    I don’t care what she might or might not have been in the past, she can get on the back of my bike any time. And I’d even happily discuss the bible with her (yes, I actually can).

  • Siveambrai

    Sorry but I can’t tell exactly from the article… did she actually do porn? As in pornographic films where she has sex? If she was just a stripper she’d still be a sex worker but not a porn star.

    • rodneyAnonymous

      She is allegedly a former porn star.

      • http://brgulker.wordpress.com/ brgulker

        Proof?

        I kid.

        • Phrankygee

          A google image search (with “safe search” turned off, strictly for academic purposes… ahem..) revealed a video entitled “Teacher’s Pet” in which our hero appeared to be bent over a desk on the business end of a penis. So, yes.. Porn star, not just stripper, or model, or “playmate”.

          I will gladly do this research so that you all don’t have to. It’s my cross to bear.

          • http://none Shad

            It would be nice to have an actual list of the adult films she’s appeared in.

            You mentioned one, the article had two others (under the distributer’s title).

            So that’s:

            “Teacher’s Pet” (link to photo you mentioned please) – possibly a different studio.

            Videos mentioned in the article (that don’t specify she was actually in them):
            “Backdoor Diaries” (unknown if she appeared in it)
            “Heidi’s High Heeled Hookers” (unknown if she appeared in it)

            Several titles are revealed under the distributor name of “Barbie Bridges Entertainment” which is found at the internet adult film database:
            http://www.iafd.com

            Barbie Bridges Entertainment:
            http://www.barbiebridgesvod.com

            Personally I don’t care if she appeared in porn. What I care about is her repeated denial about it. Remember, “Thou shalt not lie.”

          • http://none Shad

            This may be another:
            “Picture Perfect Seduction” by Vivid Productions
            as documented in her divorce settlement which she wanted to have shelved.

      • Custador

        Proof?

        No seriouslt. I love the pr0n!

        • rodneyAnonymous

          If you want proof that Barbie Bridges is a porn star, you can find it without me :) If you want proof that Melissa Scott is Barbie Bridges, I can’t help.

  • chuck vonderahe

    sorry folks,

    I’d still bang her !!!

  • Mark D

    just another con artist. maybe the people at TMZ can dig up her past.

  • Jim

    Wow! Someone turns their life completely around and preaches the good news of Jesus Christ? Imagine that.The nerve of someone telling others that they can turn their life around too.I’m just glad that us perfect people have a place to vent and point fingers at those that have broken addictions to porn,alcohol,drugs,etc. It’s the message,people, not the messenger.Bottom line – we’re all sinners – I’ve yet to meet a perfect person. The most flawed one I’ve ever seen stares back at me in my bathroom mirror.

    • Dawn

      Good point. Reminds me of something Mark Twain said in regards to the Bible,”Widely praised and hardly read”. I wish people would stop talking about religion and just read the book. Block out any preconcieved ideas you have or been told and just read the book.Start in the New Testament. Start in the Old Testament. Proverbs,Pslams. Start anywhere. I was raised in the Catholic religion but it wasn’t until I started to read the Bible that I realised that a lot of the things I was taught weren’t even biblical,they were man made. I found out that no matter what I’ve done that God will never stop loving me and that Jesus died for my sins.Oops,spoiler alert. Anyway,it’s a great read. I would encourage everybody to just read it for yourself.

      • Ty

        I bet I’ve read the bible more times than you have.

        And it’s still a load of bollocks.

        Oh, and Mark Twain ridiculed religion pretty much constantly. The quote you have above is making fun of religious people, not pimping the greatness of the bible.

      • Jabster

        “And it’s still a load of bollocks.”

        Straight to the point and oh so true.

  • Jon

    The author should be ashamed. Who are you to cast stones? Are you sinless? I doubt it. God bless Pastor Scott! She is one of the best on the airwaves and any Christian should be able to discern the good nature of her message. Lets not forget Jesus came for the sinners not the righteous! That is assuming she was even a porn star in the first place…slanderous tongues create a divided house.

    • Ty

      I’m sinless. Since, after all, sin is an entirely made up concept and one that I don’t subscribe to. I’m also immune to voodoo, in case you were wondering.

      Once you can provide any evidence that Jesus came at all, then I’ll pay attention when you make assertions about what he came for.

      And a house divided against televangelists is a thing to be much hoped for.

  • Turnerash

    You know what? I am a pastor. I preach every Sunday and every Wednesday. I never approved of her husband. But I believe this woman is legitimate. She preaches the truth and does not give a concern for popularity. I am a Calvanist, she is an Armenianist. But I do believe she understands Greek and Hebrew language and seeks to give the true interpretation of the Holy Scripture. Please do not stereotype this woman. If she was seeking popularity and riches she would conduct herself like the other TV Evangelist. She is not about itching ears, but preaching from her heart. That is what counts. So back off you critics. Please. Stop acting like a bunch of hungry senseless sharks.

    • Francesc

      “She preaches the truth”
      Good to know what is the truth. And it must be the truth as she is “preaching from her heart” and
      “That is what counts”.

    • Ty

      As a Calvinist, you must surely know that we criticize her because that’s god’s plan for us. Who are we to defy the will of god?

  • John

    For a bunch of folks that call themselves secularists or non believers, you spend an awful lot of time musing about what you find to be nonsense. Says more about you than the “hypocrisy” you supposedly expose.

    • http://avertyoureye.blogspot.com/ Teleprompter

      So are you saying that we shouldn’t spend time criticizing things which we find to be nonsense?

      That’s nonsensical.

      • Ty

        Especially when that nonsense is so widespread, and has such an impact on people’s daily lives.

        • Ty

          For the record, I am equally vocal against homeopathy, anti-vaxxing, and moon hoaxers. Nonsense in all forms must be fought.

  • http://facebook.com/r3volutionjybliss Matthew Smith

    I would think that having been a porn star would be a PLUS for her testimony of now being out of that lifestyle. I mean, it would make for excellent television and media attraction to see if her ministry is legit. but maybe she doesn’t want that kind of attraction. whatever the case, I admire her. I will be sure to catch her next time I see her on. :)

  • http://hesspartacus.wordpress.com/ He’s Spartacus

    The poor girl’s clearly unhinged.

    So ridicule her for being a space cadet. Exposing her pornstar past merely weakens your argument.

  • Tim Rigney

    Two points I’d like to make:

    Melissa Scott has NEVER made any claims about what she does or doesn’t do with the money. Once people give her the money, it’s hers and hers alone. And similar to her past -
    IT’S NONE OF ANYONE’S BUSINESS AT THAT POINT.

    In a similar vein, she’s said FLAT-OUT that she feels that this is a service which she is providing which she expects to be paid for. Whether she is correct in that philosophy is irrelevant – the people giving her the money have chosen to agree with her, and to pay her for this service.
    Considering this person’s capabilities, I think we should consider ourselves lucky that this is all she’s doing. At worst, in my opinion, these behaviors could be called “mischievous.” And really – listen to the message, not who the messenger is. The message really is quite extraordinary. It’s a whole different ball game when someone of her intelligence level “gets into the game.” And – she’s *TRYING* to change. Sounds familiar. ;-)

    By the way, I also think it’s silly for someone to claim that she doesn’t speak multiple languages. For crying out loud, she puts it right up there on the board almost every time,
    in writing. If it was gibberish somebody would have “outed” her a long time ago. And as for whether the I.Q. level is true or not – just watch her. It’s obvious.

    As for where she’s really at in her soul – - – That’s strictly between her and God. And they’re the only ones who can ever know such a thing. And – again – it’s none of our business.
    Why can’t we simply be thankful that she MIGHT be saved? Shouldn’t that supercede everything else by a mile? And then we can also be thankful that WE might be saved.

    • Jabster

      “And then we can also be thankful that WE might be saved.”

      Saved from what exactly?

      • Tammy Parton

        It is our job to make sure ANY ONE teaching or preaching is lining up with the truth, anyone can talk the bible,for satan knows the word inside out. but the bible says we will know them, the ones of true faith that is, by there fruit, it is our buisness and job to decipher who is and who is not of the household of God, many will say Lord Lord did we do all these THINGS in your name and he will say depart from me…..I NEVER knew you. It is also our job to work out our own salvation with fear and trembling, keeping in mind to take heed when you think you stand…least you fall.
        I like the end of the article about giving all you have to the poor. If they dont have a love for money then just give it away, after all we came into the world with NOTHING and will surely leave the same way. When we face God what will he say? Well done or depart from me, I never knew you. just food for thought.

        • Tim Rigney

          Sorry, but this is sheer nonsense.
          Our “job” is to “Judge not lest ye be JUDGED.”

          2,000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying that it would be interesting if people try to be nice to each other for a while JUST for a change, people are still judging the messenger rather than listening to the Message. Jesus wasn’t sent casually – this New Testament was the LAST Testament. It’s all there in the Bible. It’s not God’s fault if people aren’t getting it and are continuing to judge others with a “Holier than thou” attitude.

          “THE FIRST SHALL BE LAST AND THE LAST SHALL BE FIRST.”

          • Jabster

            “2,000 years after one man got nailed to a tree for saying that it would be interesting if people try to be nice to each other for a while JUST for a change,”

            Unless they happen to be non-believers or gay then they can burn in hell. Such a message of love don’t you think?

            • Elemenope

              Don’t forget, a house divided against itself…is riddled with demons, or something!

      • Tim Rigney

        Ourselves.

        OH, and eternal damnation.

        • Jabster

          … ah I see the old threaten a non-believer with hell trick; how exactly do you think that is supposed to work. Maybe you could quote me some bible passages as well?

  • Len Fulmer

    This is the worst crock of B.S. I have ever seen. The telling of lies is one thing, but to besmirch Pastor Melissa Scott character is beyond me. The only thing you guys right was the spelling of her name.

  • andrew

    I’ve tried to watch the good Pastor. No two words in a row make any sense. Am I stupid? Must be because so many of you have written to support her.

    As to her being a porn star, I just can’t believe it. She appears about 5′ 6″ and weigh about a hundred pounds. There is just nothing there to there that would be appealing on-screen unless one is into eating dissorders.

    As to her being a pastor. I can find nothing about where she studied or who ordained her or her late husband.

    Speaking of Pastor Gene and his credentials. His PhD was from Stanford but had nothing to do with religion. Why did his on-screen name always indicate PhD, Stanford? Have you ever seen anyone else indicate where they earned thier degree? Of course not, it was a lame attempt to align himself with that famed university and lead viewers to assume he was professionaly associated with it. Can’t remember, does Melissa claim to have a PhD? If so, where was it earned?

    On some level I am pissed with myself for taking the time to write this. She and he are and were BS. Indeed I am sorry for those taken in and throwing away good money.

    Love to all.

  • http://none Shad

    (Correcting an html error on my original post)

    The article of Melissa (Pastore) Scott can still be read in Marie Claire’s online flash version of the magazine:

    http://www.zinio.com/reader.jsp?issue=408455264&o=int&prev=si&p=111

    and the online version of the story:

    http://www.marieclaire.com/world-reports/news/latest/melissa-scott-porn-pastor

    What I find particularly disturbing is when attempting to get any sort of information on Wikipedia about her, her page has been removed and summarily redirected to her widow Dr. Eugene Scott:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa_Scott_%28pastor%29

    The discussion concerning the deletion can be found here:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_March_22 (which you have to click on ‘show’ to read the reasoning behind removing it from Wikipedia). You would think that removing parts of the article would prevail over that of an entire deletion of the article.

    An excerpt from someone attempting to get the article reinstated on Wikipedia:

    Comment – See above — the result of the vote was KEEP. There seems to have been a mistake in the deletion of the article because I can find no discussion leading to a Delete vote. You state that “editing” might be used; however, in case you haven’t checked the page does not allow that, and in fact states “This page has been deleted, and protected to prevent re-creation.” All the comments below notwithstanding, it remains extremely embarrassing that a major encyclopedia would not have contain an article or, in fact, any information about this individual who is constantly on national TV–and, in fact, ban such information. That isn’t the stamp of a “free” encyclopedia, it’s more indicative of the efforts of a small group of delete-page-regulars mandating content (or lack thereof) for the WP community as a whole, and the world. This bad decision cannot stand. Badagnani 17:58, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

    Self-taught theology indeed raises an eyebrow. The fact that she fails to identify her formal education or training in theology is decidedly troubling. Going to the extreme measures to remove information about her past from the internet is very disturbing.

    I can’t help but think of several other religious historic con jobs like the following:

    Hugh Marjoe Ross Gortner
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marjoe_Gortner

    The documentary:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-178629120699935619

  • Mike

    Ever get one of those feelings that something just isn’t right? On occasion, I’d catch a few minutes of her on late night while channel surfing. Whenever I saw her, I couldn’t help but think that there was something very wrong with this picture. For me, two and two certainly didn’t add up to four, so I spent a few minutes looking her up on the web and came out knowing not much more than before. Her bio only states that she was married to and was ordained by Gene Scott, and I find the “ordination” by her husband interesting, and that she was now the pastor of a church in LA. Multimillion dollar operation? Based on what I see, that ‘Cathederal” looks like a Gothic scene out of a “Batman” movie. Her accompanists look like some rag-tag bunch of musician wannbees and it seems to show that her “program” is sparsely attended. You’d think that her notoriety would at least get her a full bio in Wikipedia, but it doesn’t. Why are her background and scholastic achievements conveniently missing? Seeing some of the stuff I see written about her possible past leads me to believe that there is a viable and hidden reason for the scant bio.

  • Wayne Heckert

    Melissa’s whole act focuses around hyper-analytical interpretation of specific Greek and Hebrew words. Very detailed, scholarly appearing, and authoritative, but most unconvincing to true textual scholars. For starters, read “Misquoting Jesus,” a brief history of biblical script. Clearly explained is that there are more versions and shards of versions of biblical writ in existence than there are words in the new testament. Pastor Scott is the only one who is certain she has the right one.

  • Me

    I got to tell you that I read all that you said about Pastor Melissa Scott and even believed what you said about her briefly. I sincerely apologize to Gods servant Pastor Melissa Scott for my brief but real misjudgement of her. I have been saved for the greater part of my life by the grace of God, the shed blood, the great sacrifice, the obedience of a Son to His Father and because God choose me from the foundation of the world to accept Jesus Christ as my Savior.

    I know the bible well enough to know that Pastor Melissa Scott indeed knows what she is talking about and it is not feeding people a bunch of gibberish. You have to know what the bible says to follow her sermon or you will think that it is gibberish. She does not fill you in on all the details of what she is saying because she covers a lot of ground in a very sort amount of time. You have to be able to fill in the blanks with your own understanding of the bible.

    God used women all through the bible to accomplish His will. Make no mistake that if God did not want her in the position she is in that she would not be their. Stay on the right path and pray to God in the name of Jesus Christ to help you with your problem toward Melissa Scott. He will take care of things and he does not need you to accomplish this for Him, He is quite capable. Those who judge will be judged and those who forgive much will be forgiven much. I forgive you for what you have written about her and yes, you do need my forgiveness. You have briefly been a big factor that caused me to sin against God and His servant Melissa Scott. He says to love your enemies and I have got to tell you I do not see any love in the way you are going about this. It is more of an attack that is characteristic of satan not the love and forgiveness of Jesus Christ.

    I have gone back to watching Pastor Melissa Scott with the help of my God through His Spirit that is in His Son Jesus Christ and who is in me. I have prayed for you and I hope that you will get back on the right track. All the people God used in the bible had issues of one sort or another and I’ll bet that you do too.

  • http://google trplz

    I have read most of the comments posted, throughout which the conversation deviated into several discussions. This is my opinion, and only an opinion.

    a) I can’t fully trust the credibility of this article especially when the source happens to be a playmate…although I do think some playmates may posses intellect (hopefully)…I have seen the show “Girls Next Door” and although I am highly entertained by this show, I can’t be lead to believe that they posses any sort of real accreditation.
    But Playmate Elke Jeinsen told Gretchen Voss otherwise, in this month’s Marie Claire. Dr. Gene entertained Penthouse Pets and such at his ranch, and Melissa “was there, always dancing for Doc topless, showing her tits right away
    Who is this Elke Jeinsen and how can I be assured she is not being paid for her statements…and even if the pastor Scott was a porn star…most people have pasts, and have a lifetime of opportunities to change their lifestyle.
    b) Regarding the amount of money pastors get paid… was this a remark about:
    1. All pastors
    2. Pastors of this certain doctrine
    3. Pastors on television
    4. Pastors of all doctrines
    Whether they get paid or not….its up to the person who wants to pay them…if people choose to pay because they value the service well its up to that person.

  • Dani

    Obviously the editor, Lorette C. Luzajic, you have never watched her show… She speaks multiple languages on just about every one of her tv lessons. Do your research better next time!

  • Love Is Real.

    Wow!…So maybe you’re right but the only person that needs to be concerned about that is Melissa Scott herself. I do believe in God and so what the truth is about anybody(good or bad) is their own problem. We all fall short we are human beings not God; forgiveness to ourselves let alone to others is hard at times but is necessary in order to move forward without a scratch of bitterness,distrust or whatever the problem may be so forgive and let go. If you don’t believe in God that’s fine, then what’s the big crusade for?why try so hard to convince everyone about something that doesn’t even exist? If you’re right then there are no consequences to what anyone believes be it Christian,Jewish,Atheist etc. What would be the big deal about believing in “nothing”? And if so many Christians are hypocrites then what exactly are you doing? I guess that just makes us all human striving for some answers, some direction.What is wrong with that?. As a Christian I stand firm in my beliefs if I should judge anyone then that judgment returns back unto myself.(Matthew 7:1-5) If Melissa Scott is in it for the wrong motives in your case it won’t make that much of a difference anyway but if on the other hand if God is real (which is my belief) then she’s going to have to answer to the only one fit to judge and there is nothing you or I can do about it. And so to sum it all up…either nothing happens at all or it’s none of our business anyway because we should only be concerned with ourselves and what we have done with this life and the calling that has been placed upon us. Maybe you should really stop and think about what it is that drives you to hate and want to tear down.
    “6 Seek the LORD while He may be found; Call upon Him while He is near. 7 Let the wicked forsake his way And the unrighteous man his thoughts; And let him return to the LORD, And He will have compassion on him, And to our God, For He will abundantly pardon.” (Isaiah 55:6-7)
    Note: If I were to keep my focus on everyone Christian,Jew,Human,Alien… whatever you believe or whatever you are then why bother serving God? and so my focus stays on God because that is who I choose to serve,worship and live for. God bless you or not…you are loved anyhow. :)

  • http://none surfkrow

    I have been a khof sense 89′ and am of the opinion that Dr.Gene Scott set the record straight on many religious issues. He restored a healthy respect for Christian leadership as well as returning a failing church to faith. He monopolized the government straight out of the churchs liturgical activity, preached the gospel uncompromised to the whole world He restored worship to its rightful place and brought communion as a table of grace not guilt into the homes of many. I have no doubt in my mind that he was Gods man for this hour . To the best of my knowledge PMS was entrusted with keeping his voice going (like the followers of james vernon mcgee did) What happened??? Her own words were “if anyone else had takin over they would have increased and he (Dr. Scott would have decreased) I paraphrase but that’s the just of it. Since then she has moved to the forefront and accept for a few hand picked messages he is virtually gone from the internet and shortwave, this is suspicious. Also, she’s cleaned his act up (so to speak) of the handpicked messages that you do get of Dr.Scott, none depict the controversial Domata at his best. He used to say send me all the sinners in town you don’t have to change to come to Christ, act in faith and God does the changing for ya . Now it reeks of second generation imitation despite the lip service she gives grace. Dr. Scott railed against the self-rightous and hypocritical church at large and clearly aligned himself against it. That line has been blurred. Dr. Scott once lamented that true teachers of Gods word were treated as outcasts until they died then those that in life were against them would come in and saint them, then steal their messages and stamp their own watered down image on it leaving it seventy ways from Sunday (that’s the just of it) and it makes me sick! Am I not seeing that with my own eyes? Heres the clincher , She does an interview and the question is asked are you barbi bridges, did you ever do porn ? Her answer is, “ No. If I start defending that then what else do I have to defend?” Huh? That infers shes lying…. Scripture says “shun the very appearance of evil ” NOT HIDE IT! And how bout defending “that the truth of the gosple might continue with you”? She says i’de rather teach a few the right way for the right reasons than many for the wrong reasons. well she had her chance to show what shes made of and it Reeks of a compromised man pleaser. As far as “what else do i have to defend?” Could it be that she would have to defend why a porn site under the name of barbie bridges is still up solicting buisness as usual? hey this is speculation that she has allowed to fester because of her shady response! Makin money on both sides of the street? Dr. Scott never backed down from controversy. “Its none of your business what motel I visit” he would say but lie ? no way … Dr. Scott was live on the festival of faith. The man early on put in 3 to 11 hours a day on the festival of faith (Hard WORK!) as for her maybe 2 hrs on sunday night if that. And she critisizes why attendance is down (just smaks of hypocricy) and this is just one of many reasons. How about she sucks as a teacher? She may be able to fool the newly gullible and pass of Docs teachn as her own divine revelations but us “OLDTIMERS see through the crap! And the faithfull are tired of being brow beatin over giving ? Very vampiric in my opinion. Dr.Scott spoke to issues of the day you always knew right where he stood on issues from the war in the gulf to televangelists and their ridiculous hypocracy and everything in between. PMS claims to herald a reformation , In my opinion Dr Scott Was the best representative of Christ sense the apostle Paul and was Gods man for this hour the proof was in the teaching and that’s virtually gone now thanks to her… in this age of technology his voice could still be beaming round the world 24/7 any and all used to be able to find his life giving words/messages of Christ but its not any more As Dr. Scott used to say “stop at the common sense gestalt” somthins wrong here!! This PMS syndrome hyjacked the intent of the Domata an left “70 ways from sunday! At best I think she is deluded at worst just plain evil. I suspect that SATEN COULDN’T STOP Dr. Scotts voice from goin out to the world so he found a way to compromise it through a woman that seems to have rationalized herself blind into thinking she has an unction so as to justify her own greed and pride End result “Teaching to the expense of the life of the spirit”. and a return to hypocricy .

    • Daniel Florien

      Your mind would be in an interesting place to visit.

      • Jabster

        LSD isn’t that expensive …

  • erleclaire

    And Lorette C. Luzajic is who? If someone was a porn satar, druggy, and God nows what, but comes to salvation, then that is enough. If Scott is corrupt then let’s see the evidence, photos, sworn tesimoney etc……..

    • wazza

      I believe the amount of money she has, being supposedly a pastor, is enough to show that she’s not following what is outlined for the path of such a person.

  • WORKMAN NOT ASHAMED

    ……………..WOMEN BE SILENT IN ASSEMBLY & DO NOT SPEAK GO HOME & ASK YOUR HUSBANDS FOR KNOWLEDGE LEST YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTHS & EXPOSE THE SHAME OF YOUR NAKEDNESS IF THEY SAY THEY KNOW ME & WILL NOT KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS, THEY ARE A LIAR & THEIR IS NO LIGHT IN THEM ALLEGED BEAUTY IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER IS ONLY SKIN DEEP BUT A LIAR GOES THROUGH TO THE BONE YHWH CALLS HER A LIAR A SCRIPTURAL LIAR SHE IS AS SUCH MAY YAHWEH BE GLORIFIED THROUGH HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON YAHSHUA HALLELUYAH HALLELUYAHWEH PAISE YHWH

    • Ty

      Crazy man is crazy.

  • Lamar Jensen

    I used to work for University and saw Melissa write many letters in more than 20 languages using Google Language tools. I’ve done it myself a few times and it’s an easy chore and does not require a doctorate of any sort. I left University when I realized that her board drawings were nearly identical to ones that Gene did from early video. Melissa is simply following in Gene’s footsteps… literally.

  • oxygen

    Pastor Melissa Scott is one of the most beautiful women in the world! You will have a hard time finding a woman like that these days. If I was a man I would marry her in a heartbeat! She speaks 20 languages, and maybe the greatest teacher on the face of the earth…

    • Daniel Florien

      PRAISE HER ALL YE HEAVENLY HOSTS!!!!1!

  • Greg
  • APRIL

    I one of the Bible verses state “jugde not ye be jugde ” and ” them with out sin cast the first stone” I believe that everyone has sinned so who are we to judge anyone Jesus forgave everyone so we need to forgive and move on if this gossip is right. Jesus preached LOVE not Hatred
    also remember no sin is greater then the next except bleasmeny the Holy spirt

    • Sunny Day

      “I one of the Bible verses state “jugde not ye be jugde ” and ” them with out sin cast the first stone” ”

      Your religion is the one that invented this supposed affliction you call SIN so you can sell me some magic jesus to cure it. Since I know all your beliefs and holy spirit are bullshit I am without sin.

      According to your scripture babbling logic I’m free to throw however many goddammed stones I want.

      Thanks.

  • Brother James

    Hello There. Peace of Christ.

    Melissa Scott is no different than the pope or Joel Osteen in female nature….she is a devil servant as it is 100% of all so called protestant pastors who are nothing but catholics dressed as christians, she is a Lawless person, a Oneness Rejecter, a Holy Sabbath-Day Rejecter, etc. etc. all the Holy Things of the God of the bible she trashes, and avoids teaching….How do I know that?!!! I was one of them for over 50 years…..her voice is awful when it comes to singing, her teaching is cunny, she uses aramaic and greek and Hebrew to disguise the holes of her preaching, she enchantes the people with her mumble-jumbo…I watch her often to learn how the devil is doing..what is new with satan…as I watch other preachers, all Lawless…they do not even see that….they are like the Lawless men predicted by Paul, their mind is in the power of satan, of course she will never know that, due to her “Proud Nature”….I feel sorry for her, I wish she could give me 30 minutes with her in front of her people..that is all I need to make her know (if possible) since all the people under satan’s influence reject all Godly persons or things……

    She seems nice and sweet, but she ain’t beautiful at all…..anyway she does a heck of a job for her master satan….I’ll give her credit right there…..

    God Bless…………….Brother James

    • Kodie

      since all the people under satan’s influence reject all Godly persons or things……

      That’s pretty far-fetched rationalization of why people don’t like you.

  • michael

    We will never know her true sole only God knows and that is true for all of us. I am glad she is spreading the word and pray her intentions are good. If she helps just one person I support her efforts. Pray for her and her church that they continue to do good deeds and stay on the straight and narrow. No man or woman is perfect but I am sure she knows what God expects of her whether she does it or not.

    • Kodie

      We will never know her true sole

      Only her cobbler knows for sure!

      • Jabster

        … beat me to it but i was going for was it dover or lemon?

        • Kodie

          Only her fish-monger knows for sure!

          • Jabster

            Maybe Michael got a bit confused and actually believes in Cod …

  • Brother James

    Hello All there. Peace of Christ.

    Pastor Melissa Scott is just another poor victim of “Her’ weak heart as it is with 99.999999999% of all persons who claim to be Christians, and are not, never were, never will be according to the bible…No Lawless person will inherit the Kingdom of God…1 Cor. 6:9..So there
    I understand her female instinct too….all female love to be attracted to men, and she trys hard to do that, but as a bible educated person she gets a ONE from me….I don’t care what she was or did before she appeared in that forum, what she did is this: “Satan transformed into a better worker for him”, which is the Number one of satans tricks….Joel Osteen is the Male part of satan’s decepcion, Melissa and Osteen are part of the New People of satan’s army to keep the people going into hell;….Rev. 12:9…I was in there for over 57 years, so! I know…..I feel sorry for her, very, very sorry…..as I feel for everyone walking that path:

    There is a path that LOOKS GOOD TO MEN but in the end “IS DEATH”. Prov. 16:25..”ALL” so called Christian Pastors and Preachers are serving satan..although they do not know it…I know they are AWFULLY “SINCERILLY WRONG”, they all act loving and caring, but!! Really (They do not give a hut about the needy people) exactly what the bible says they would do…as I say..anyone who doesn’t Have the Law and the Testimony..isaiah 8:16,20 binded in their heart and in their mind is not a Christian, they belong to christenom the religion of satan, whith their god the trinity and the name jehovah, Lawless, baptized in “TITLES” and not in the Name above Names as Christ Commands Acts 2:38-40….

    She is good..she is good……Let him/her who “DOES EVIL” continue to “DO EVIL”, and Let him/her who is Holy continue to live in Holiness…the bible says: Rev. 22:21..

    I will pray for her….

    God Bless………….Brother James

    • Daniel Florien

      She’s not a REAL Christian, like Brother James. If only she believed the nonsense Brother James believes, instead of the nonsense she believes, then everything would be all peace of Christy. Praise Gawd!

      • Brother James

        Hello Daniel. Peace of Christ.

        That is so sweet of you!!!!!!! You just won a ticket to go to one her services, and learn or be part of it, or them….I smell jello in your head, instead of brains….that would be the right place for you to be….eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!..brother, brother, if you only knew?!

        God Bless………….Brother James

        • Daniel Florien

          Holy crap there is jello in my head?!? How can I get it out? I love jello and am hungry. Thanks in advance for your detailed instructions.

          • Brother James

            Hello Daniel Florien. Peace of Christ.

            You say >>>Holy crap there is jello in my head?!? How can I get it out? I love jello and am hungry. Thanks in advance for your detailed instructions<<<

            See!!! that is what happens with people like you, who have jello in their heads, they can not think, have no logic….I will help you, use your long tongue through your nose and suck it up to your mouth…see!!! easy…good luck…eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!
            eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, Danny boe, Danny boe….

            God Bless………………..Brother James

            • Roger

              This person is clearly mentally disturbed.

            • trj

              And – it would appear – also a stuttering Canadian.

          • Siberia

            Mm, jello brains.
            Zombies make a whole lot more of sense now.

          • beyonddeities

            I thought he was going to break out into a Lady Gaga song the rate he’s going at. Eh, ehhh~

        • Len

          I don’t know what you’ve been sniffing, but it doesn’t seem to be doing you much good.

  • lady29

    are you kidding me?! those pics don’t even look like her. and even if she did that in the past what does that have to do with her being a pastor now if she isn’t the same person she used to be? I think you people are just looking for a reason to try and tear her down. watch her show and get a clue she is smart and truly has an anointing.

    • JohnMWhite

      WE’RE just looking for a reason to try to tear her down? You’re the one digging back almost a year to complain about an article in a series looking at hypocrisy in well known persons of faith.

      • lady29

        hypocrisy? i’d say you knew what you were talking about if those pictures actually looked like her. besides if that were her past what has that to do with anything that she’s doing now? and articles like that aren’t looking at hypocrisy they’re looking for it.

        • JohnMWhite

          I don’t think you understood my comment about hypocrisy.

      • lady29

        John i disagree with you,because while it is true that the consequences are made by god aren’t all consequences made by someone else? the law,parents,teachers,etc.it’s like if your parents told you your whole life stealing is wrong and you once go and steal just to see what the big deal is and you realize that you did something wrong so you tell the person you wronged and your parents and they (your parents) punish you accordingly what they think is appropriate. now if you learn your lesson then you won’t get into any more trouble but if not and continue then eventually you’ll end up in prison. while toddlers are ignorant and unable to read adults are not.

        • JohnMWhite

          Not all consequences are made by other people. The laws of motion, cause and effect, etc. are natural and just happen. I push something, it pushes back. It’s how the universe operates.

          That sometimes consequences are constructed is irrelevant anyway. God doesn’t need to create hell. We are no threat to god, there is no imperative making him need to store people who don’t believe in him in a special, fiery container for eternity. While stealing has consequences because society has decided that if everyone went around stealing then we couldn’t function very well, not believing in god has consequences because god feels like it. It is entirely arbitrary and nothing short of egotistical.

          Besides, god’s punishment for not believing in him is not appropriate. Nothing a human can do can warrant that level of punishment. And what’s the point in learning anything if you are in hell for ever and ever?

          • lady29

            the point is if there is no god then there are no consequences for not obeying his rules, and not obeying his rules coupled with the fact that there is no relationship with him is the reason people go to hell. merely because if you don’t have a relationship with him you wouldn’t know his voice from satans and would end up lost.

            • Kodie

              The point is there is no afterlife. There is no lost. You have an imaginary friend and imaginary consequences to having a relationship with that friend. If that friend were a real person, and they felt like shunning you because you wouldn’t obey their arbitrary rules, you would say “to hell” with them! Believing in god and satan as having any consequence after you die is to abide by some unnatural laws you imagine have consequences by an imaginary person who doesn’t even exist and can’t put you in hell if you decide to do anything you want – even steal and kill or hate your parents or deny its existence.

            • lady29

              I don’t think his rules are arbitrary they’re for our own good. you’re right we feel hate the difference is we don’t hang on to it. we want to kill at times but we don’t because its not right. the same with stealing. when you were a kid didn’t your parents teach you first what is right and wrong? so if you have to be taught what’s right and what’s wrong? you can deny his existence all you want I believe he’s, there because to look at the universe in all its vastness and beauty and to think that all of it could come into existence on its own is impossible.

            • lady29

              as to finish my infinte question in my previous statement if you have to be taught right and wrong how does this sense evolve on its own?

            • Jabster

              “you can deny his existence all you want I believe he’s, there because to look at the universe in all its vastness and beauty and to think that all of it could come into existence on its own is impossible.”

              What makes you think it was you god that did it. For all you know you could be going to another god’s hell … are you prepared to take that chance?

            • Custador

              Tell me lady, are God’s rules good because God made them, or did he make them because they were good rules? What I mean is, if God made the rules and said “kill all the Jews”, would that become a good, moral rule because God said so? On the other hand, if God merely spelled out what was already inherently moral and good in a set of rules, then did we really need him to? Good people would still do good things if those things were good by their nature, right?

            • Kodie

              At some point I have to wonder why people think god is god and not satan. Like, if they have to pick a side and god says not to go with satan (source of all temptation to do against god’s will – but what good is even that?), but god is a dick, why they still say, well god is god, he’s the good guy obviously (he cares so much we stay out of satan’s grips).

              So when he’s being a dick, that’s ok, because he’s god. The mysterious creator of all things supposedly loves us and he wouldn’t be so strict if he wasn’t being a good parent-figure. If you had to choose between the two or neither, why people believe any of his promises of a heaven or hell situation, or nothing, people still buy him at his word, and not say sometimes, well, he’s kind of a dick and I’m not sure I trust that there’s a heaven or that it’s all that nice as it says in this book. No one’s ever come back to concur with this legend, so it’s all hearsay on this book.

              At least with real parents, you know, sometimes they punish you to keep you out of trouble or learn a lesson about life. But sometimes, they are just arbitrarily deciding if you come home before midnight, you aren’t crafty enough to get into trouble, or they want to get to bed and know you are safe in the house by an arbitrary time. 5 minutes late and you’re grounded doesn’t seem fair at all, and what do you learn from it? They could also bring you up right so they can sleep tight while you stay out as long as you want, and let you figure out that you’re going to be tired at school the next day and learn how to manage your time better.

              Comparing god to a parent-figure who punishes you justifiably for your own good doesn’t appeal to me. Parents are obviously fallible people who make stuff up that doesn’t have any teaching effect, so you learn to be more like these fallible people in the end or resent them. Once you are old enough to see things from their perspective, you can figure out which rules and consequences were valid and which ones were nonsense they made up to make themselves feel better or more superior. Ideally, they are completely wonderful and you grow up into a fantastic and responsible human adult, but not too uptight. However, this doesn’t justify parents’ behavior on the basis they are parents, and most parents fall short of ideal, and many do well enough not to leave permanent scars, but 100% I’m estimating, do something along the way that makes no sense objectively. Hopefully nothing harmful, but we can’t guarantee god is a perfect parent because he’s god, and we can’t say because he’s god, we have to follow what he says if we can objectively point out the flaws in his reasoning. His godness does not exempt him from objective reasoning – I mean, I don’t know why people give him more credit (or even human parents) for knowing what’s good for us and what his role is in steering us toward it. It’s just a book. Normal people grow out of the role of the child and maybe get some therapy to offset their parents’ imperfections, but they can go ahead with their own adult life. It is like you are taught about god, that no matter how old you grow, you are still a child subject to the whims of a parent figure, when objectively, you can see where your own parents steered you wrong – why continue to believe god has any authority over you likewise?

              If the irrational were being even slightly rational, rather than being “liberal” forms of Christian who ignore that god’s so much a dick and probably a liar, they figure so they better let him do what he wants and like it or else end up in that other place. None of that ever makes sense to me.

            • lady29

              being a christian or an athiest does not make one good or bad because ther is good and bad in all of us.yes I think he gave us these rules because they are good rules but I think he needed to spell it out because we aren’t born knowing right and wrong we have to be taught.

            • Jabster

              “I think he gave us these rules because they are good rules”

              Please explain why a good rule is unless you not only believe in me but also worship me you’re going to hell. What sort of screwed up morality thinks that this is a good idea?

            • Kodie

              But Lady29, some of those rules are so arbitrary. Whenever some parent decides “because I said so” is good enough, I wonder, what do their children learn? Once they are old enough to observe that the parent may not know what the heck they are talking about, their authority is diminished. This is not just rebellion, this is the child becoming an adult on their own terms. “Because I said so” is really a short term crutch that only works on small children. “As long as you’re living in my house, you’ll go by my rules,” well, I can’t argue with it exactly, but that is the sort of motivation to go out and find your own place so you don’t have to hear it anymore. Whatever rules there are may be good rules or they may be bad rules.

              Don’t run into the street! Good rule.
              Why? Because I said so. — teaches nothing.

              Don’t dye your hair blue. Arbitrary rule.
              Why? As long as you live under my roof… — there is nothing wrong with blue hair until you have to find certain types of work that don’t go for it. For a parent fears the child they love might get into an artsy field like it’s the end of the world, and do drugs, probably end up in the gutter because they wanted to dye their hair for fun.

              God’s rules, like don’t kill – good rule.
              Why? Because it’s one of the commandments.

              —??? Because it’s not nice, how about? Because you wouldn’t like to be killed. Because everyone gets to live and you should not take that away from another human being.

              God’s rules, like honor your mother and father. — Arbitrary rule.

              Why? Because it’s one of the commandments…. ?

              Parents are human beings who love you and may sacrifice and do their best but they also mess up and wing it and fly by the seat of their pants. In some cases, parents can be actively counter-productive to the well-being of their child and the development of that child into a productive adult human with their own mind and gears and inner thoughts and workings. They may say they are your authority and while you live in their house, to some degree, there is not much a minor dependent can do. God made this rule because? It’s nice to at least acknowledge people who probably didn’t have that much fun for about 20 years because of you, not as much fun as they could have had without you. But you never have to agree they know what’s best for you or do what they say only by the virtue they are your parents once you are grown.

              Have no gods before me — say what now?
              This is very arbitrary. This is like a parent saying don’t listen to your teacher. Don’t listen to anyone, don’t read a book, don’t have friends, don’t do anything without checking it by me first. Forever. Or else you’ll get a royal spanking. Don’t dye your hair blue, don’t listen to Elvis, don’t dance, don’t be gay, don’t go on a date without a chaperone, don’t drink alcohol, don’t get in the van with the man who says he lost his puppy.

              If you mix up the good rules and the weird arbitrary rules with the fix on “because I said so,” you have to be able to separate them into one pile that’s useful and one pile that really is not for your own good on some other basis – by having the sense “god” gave you to do it. If you believe in a hell that you really might go someday, you are living with the threat of breaking some unnecessary rules. You seem to have no way of determining for yourself which rules keep you safe and which rules have no consequences, because breaking any of them will end you up in hell. I’m really confused why so many grown-ups think god’s rules are for their own good, but the reasons are unknowable, but the threat of hell makes you not want to take a chance deciding what to do and what the consequences really are. Mature people do not think like this.

              For the record, to my crazy mom’s credit, she never said “because I said so,” she always said why something I wanted to do was a bad idea, and this made it easier for me to see where her logic was focused. If I wanted to ride my bikes out on the main road, she would explain that it’s harder for cars to see at that time of day (makes sense). If I wanted to wear torn jeans to school like everyone else, she said she didn’t want people to think she couldn’t afford to buy me new clothes (not “cool,” but illustrates a reason centered on her ego, that my actions have consequences to other people and their reputations, potentially — very helpful). “Because I said so” wouldn’t have helped me stay out of trouble. She also never said “wait until your father gets home,” or “if everyone else jumped off a bridge,” either. I could write a short book on clichés my mother never told me. (Don’t steal my idea!) (Commandment #8, just in case you were thinking about it.)

              If there were a god, he could learn something from my mother. If we are not born knowing the difference between good and evil, his explanation is unhelpful as a guide, so he might as well not have bothered. The fear of hell doesn’t bother me because I’m not inclined to believe it just in case, I’m not inclined to follow vague and arbitrary rules on the basis of some mysterious fella who calls himself “god.” The god you believe in spreads rumors of some heinous foe of his named satan, where god seems nearly as bad if not worse, but he makes promises and threats and grown people – GROWN UP HUMANS WITH BIG BRAINS – become little children about this story. Vestigial fear of the parental authority, controlled by a fantastical story with arbitrary rules through to the rest of your life with none of the common mechanisms grown people use to determine what consequences are fictional and what are useful to incorporate into your adult life.

  • fred

    i just wanted to say that i enjoy pastor melessa scot ministery servic and i think she’s a very beautiful women and i enjoy listening to her sing i watch her program all the time when it’s on tv she come on at 100 o’clock am and goes off at 150am im a christin i got bapitized on march 31 th and my picture taken in grace bapitist in royal oak on elmwood street every where i go people smoke and drink it’s hard to stay away from it what would you suggest to me how to avoid this smoking and drinking where i live i am a smoker but trying to quite becuz i got bapitize’s in jesus name and i want to stay true to him and god this is my problem i hope you understan pastor melessa scot.com

    • Kodie

      The key you’re looking for is right below the L and a little to the right.

    • Bill

      I call poe.

    • Brother James

      Hello Fred. Peace of Christ..

      I understand you brother I understand you…I worked for satan for over 50 years, satan loves to please his people (as you are pleases) that is why he has instituted women preaching…Christianity doesn’t allow that, christendom (The catholic church and her daughters the protestant denominations do) for the same reason….Daddy satan wants to keep his people happy….that is why Joel Osteen is in the field…The Pope, etc. etc…. enjoy your happines while you’re here following the teaches of satan through that woman…’cause there is a day for you and all satan’s people, when happines will be ever seen by them…so keep on trucking….enjoy here while you are in this world….

      May the God of the bible Lord Jesus Christ have mercy of you….

      God Bless……………Brother James

      • Daniel Florien

        Do you know if Satan is still hiring? How much does he pay? Can you give me a phone number? Thanks in advance!

        • Brother James

          Hello Daniel F. Peace of Christ.

          You say<<<>>>> eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh! it is people like you who makes the Lord Jesus cry….satan “OWNS YOU” and 99.99999
          99999999999999999999999% of the so called christians and catholics and the whole world…..I know, I know…you do not know that, you will never will till day comes…so!!!
          wait patiently for a rude awakening, I mean “A VERY, VERY” RUDE AWAKENING that
          will last “ETERNITY”…eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!, eh!….shameful, shameful, will be with her there…so!! why don’t you just start being friendly to her?!!!!!

          You say >>>How much does he pay?<<<>>>Can you give me a phone number? <<<>>Thanks in advance!<<<< No problem!!! My pleasure….anytime…

          God Bless and have a:
          Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day…Brother James

          • claidheamh mor

            The gobble of “loving” Christians everywhere:

            “You are in for such a big surprise/nasty shock when you die. We have to give up the good stuff in this life, but weíll get ours (the good stuff) when we die. You bad atheists get the good stuff now, but you will get YOURS (the really really bad stuff) when you die. And it will be FOREVER! And you will finally see I’m right when you get yours, bwaaaaahhaaahaahahaha….”

            It’s too convincing… I’m being saved… I feel the call to give my life to Jesus… I finally heard the word… another soul saved… I finally saw the light…I’m converting to Christianity… this true Christian was such a shining, hate-filled example of the Lord Jesus Christís pure hate… I feel it… it is so powerful… I’m shaking all over (or is that repressed laughter?)… I’m giving my life to Christ and spreading the word of his hate… this spiteful true Christian has finally made me see the error of my ways… I’m turning Christian…

            (Note for the obtuse: this sarcasm exemplifying the point that Bother James uses words like

            God Bless and have a:
            Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day…

            after saying some nasty hateful stuff.)

            • Roger

              The difference between you and “Bother James” is that I actually understood what you wrote. His “writing” is that of someone who is in desperate need of a pharmaceutical intervention.

      • lady29

        brother james where in the bible does it specifically say that women can’t preach? because I don’t think she’s going to hell at all.

        • Brother James

          Hello Lady. Peace of Christ.

          You say >>>brother james where in the bible does it specifically say that women can’t preach? because I don’t think she’s going to hell at all.<<<

          She is not going to hell because she is teaching, but for what he is teaching and for what she is not teaching….she teaches nothing but men made doctrines, contrary to what the bible says….she doesn't teach what the Holy Spirit says to teach, she is just like everyone who calls himself a protestant pastor or protestant bible teacher…The Foolies she says and the blasphemies she comits will be on her tab onjudgment day, that is why the bible says that the tongue will be your witnesses to be saved or not….she teaches the trinity..the trinity is the embodiement of satan, and the name jehovah is the name of satan in this world…she teaches Lawless, and teaches baptism in titles instead of in the Name of Jesus who was given to us humans for salvation, she rejectes is….etc. etc…..she is a lost case….I feel sorry for her, 'cause she thinks and believes she is doing good to the True Jesus….and she is not….she is serving satan who has come into her life as Jesus….as it is with everybody who claims to be christian…I served there for over 50 years, so I know…..

          Then the bible says this through Paul:
          As it is in all the congregations of the saints 1 Cor. 14:34 Women SHOULD REMAIN "SILENT" IN THE CHURCHES. They are not allowed to speak…If this is not enough for you or anyone else…..then!!! wait till you see the boss, because Paul was the apostle Jesus chose for us the gentiles……Satan favorite weapon is women….as it was with eve, then Mary, and now…..hundreds of women serve their master…..

          Now you tell me where does the bible says that a woman should be a pastor of the church of Christ?!!!….Go ahead…..

          God Bless and have a:
          Happy, Holy, Loving, Joyful, Peaceful, Wonderful, Sabbath-Day……Brother James

          • JohnMWhite

            Oh yes, that sounds very loving and peaceful.

            • Elemenope

              Haven’t you heard? The Peace of Christ is a sword quenched in blood.

            • Roger

              And it has 1337 haxxors!

            • Elemenope

              LOL!

            • Brother James

              [dumbass filter engaged]

            • Kodie

              @Botcher James – you seem pretty confident that you know what you are talking about, but your messages of love sound violent and that you have been dipped in a vat of stupid and confused to confuse everything with satan except what you have learned after working for satan for 50 years. There’s no satan, don’t worry about it. I don’t like that you appear to be some know-it-all, and you can’t even spell or make coherent sentences. For sure, nobody here is going to be sorry just because you said so, you don’t come off as an authority on much of anything. If there were a god and he said that people were tools of satan just to get you to listen to him, I would say he’s full of shit. I’ll say it to you, and I’d say it to my empty room where god is supposed to be. There’s no satan. Now please go put the pills on your tongue and chase it with a glass of milk. I know, cows are agents of satan. Just do it anyway, nothing bad will happen, I swear to god.

            • Roger

              I wonder what Bother James said that got the dumbass filter engaged…

            • Daniel Florien

              It takes a lot to engage the dumbass filter, but there was unusual amounts of dumbassness, even for a “brother.”

            • lady29

              I don’t know whether you’re a believer or not and im not trying to be preachy at all, I just want you to know that christianity really is peaceful and that jesus loves everyone.

            • Jabster

              “im not trying to be preachy at all,”

              Why is that statements like that are always followed by something that is the exact opposite?

            • lady29

              Jabster I wasn’t being preachy just stating a fact.

            • Elemenope

              Technically you’re stating a perception, which may or may not correspond with a fact.

            • Jabster

              @lady29

              Oh please, you were being preachy … jesus loves us all does he, well unless we don’t believe in him then we get to spend eternity in hell. Exactly what sort of love would you call this?

            • Elemenope

              Scary stalker love.

            • claidheamh mor

              Yep, she’s preachy. *And* incapable of distinguishing a statement about her own belief about her own state of mind, from a fact.

            • lady29

              @jabster well its true he does. its like if you’re a parent and you keep telling your kids no no don’t do that it’s not safe and if they keep doing what you told them not to, they’re not listening right? so there are consequences. the thing is to learn from them before it’s too late. his love is unconditional which means no matter what people do they can be forgiven.@elemenope lol. you’re kind of funny

            • JohnMWhite

              The consequences were created by god and are massively out of proportion to any sins any person could ever possibly commit in their finite lifespan. It would be like a parent leaving a note lying around for a toddler to read saying “don’t go into the kitchen” and having left a pot of boiling water over the kitchen door. It’s pure maliciousness and a very poorly executed warning system.

            • Roger

              @ lady29: Jesus–if he ever existed in the first place–is dead and is therefore incapable of producing the emotion known as “love.” What you may claim to love is nothing more than a set of teachings attributed to this person…your love the idea of Jesus and the ideals attributed to him. Furthermore, your inevitable claims about him being “alive” are little more than emotional affirmations about religious creeds and not at all about a being surviving an execution.

            • Jabster

              @lady29

              No his love is not unconditional … if you don’t believe in him you go to hell. How on earth do you classify that as unconditional?

            • Shad

              @ Lady29 and Brother James,

              Here is:

              Why Christianity Fails:
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYaQpRZJl18

              Why Satan is a myth:
              http://www.guba.com/watch/3000087824/The-History-of-the-Devil

              Why god is man made:
              http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8059991273314767024#

              Why you both are text book examples of religious pawns that spew vitriolic and fallaciously ignorant tripe, and the mythology you both love being deeply entrenched in that gives you some sort of self-worth.

              Introducing Joseph Campbell and The Power of Myth:
              http://vimeo.com/4824510

              Now would you please stop being Internet Trolls, obtain a formal education that covers the basics of things you’re attempting to convey here, and quietly depart from a clearly non-believing forum before you continue to make even greater fools of yourselves.

              Start with reading some books:
              http://unreasonablefaith.com/a-reading-list/

              Here’s some other help for you:
              http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/

              As you depart, don’t let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.

              Praise ye oh mighty Ahura Mazda.

          • claidheamh mor

            @bother james: Now you tell me where does the bible says that a woman should be a pastor of the church of Christ?!!!….Go ahead…..

            Who *gives* a fuck whether it explicitly (versus implied in law) states that a woman “should” go after a certain career?

          • lady29

            You and I agree on one thing the trinity it is man made. but while the bible says that women should remain silent it also says that he gives gifts to everyone that includes preaching and everyone means everyone.

            • Brother James

              Hello Lady29. Peace of Christ.

              You say >>>You and I agree on one thing the trinity it is man made. but while the bible says that women should remain silent it also says that he gives gifts to everyone that includes preaching and everyone means everyone<<<

              Your problem (as it is the problem of billions) is your bible ILITERACY and your Bible Ignorance…..Christ is Yes or No….once He says He doesn't wants women speaking in the churches, He is not going to say somewhere else that they can….that is one of the points satan uses to keep human tied to him….Jesus says all over the bible that His Holy Day is the Sabbath-Day, the Sevent of the week, Jesus never says He abolished although He is the Law Giver, yet!! satan says the sabbath is the first day of the week not the seven, and!!! who do humans obey?!!! "SATAN"….so it is with the women preachers, Jesus says through Paul that a woman should be "SILENT" in church, yet satan says….No!! They must speak, not only speak but preach…..

              Well!! it is o.k they do that, because they are doining in christendom (The religion of satan, the people of satan) they do not do that in Christianity…we Have no women preachers in Christianity, why?!! 'Cause the God of the bible Lord Jesus=The Holy Spirit says "NO"….christendom obeys the first day sunday as their sabbath…it o.k….they have a 3 persons god the trinity and are baptized in the titles, it is o.k. for them who love and follow satan….it is no O.k For Jesus and His people, His Saints The Christians…..

              It is like those people blowing up themselves for Osama, even do they are americans, it is nor right for the americans, but since they serve Obama then they will do what Obama says….so it is with Jesus and satan…

              I hope some day you see the light and understand it, even if you do not want to accept it and obey it……I did….

              God Bless…………Brother James

            • lady29

              Brother james god is the final judge not man. and we don’t know what day god started creating the earth so how can we truly know when the seventhday is? that’s one of the things that we’re probably not meant to know. isn’t the sabbath a day when we take time to spend with god in his word?

            • lady29

              and you still didn’t answer my other question,

            • Kodie

              Are we really having this conversation?

              Neither one of you is a true Christian! There, it’s settled.

            • John C

              James, you’ve got some heavy religious mess going on there friend, and its always binding, is not liberating (where the spirit of the Lord is there is liberty right?). Let me ask you, speaking of women, didn’t that same one (Christ in Paul) also say in Galatians 3:28 (speaking of those of us who have been baptized into Christ and have ‘put on’ Christ) that…’there is no longer Jew or Greek, slave or free, and no more male or female, for you are all one in Christ’. God/Christ is neither male nor female, but has attributes of both, this is partly what Paul refers to as ‘the mystery of marriage’. The female represents the soulical (emotions, etc) while the male represents the spirit, the ‘church’ is the ecclessia/ekklessia which is Christ’s spiritual body (his life in us), not a building or a denomination.

              Get free of the religious hangups, love is the only remaining ‘law’ and is higher, is above all rules, rituals, traditions, etc. Get out of the physical and see that ‘all are one in Christ, there is no more male and female’.

              All the best

            • lady29

              kodie although I respect your opinion on how the universe came into existence im irritated with you because you have no right to judge who is or isn’t a true christian.

            • Elemenope

              im irritated with you because you have no right to judge who is or isn’t a true christian.

              The point, I think, was that from an outside perspective, listening to two self-professed Christians argue over who is Christian-er is exasperating. Either Christianity is a very big tent with a large number of often-contradictory expressions, or it is a very small tent with a whole lot of confused people hanging around outside looking to squeeze in. Either way, from out here it seems like inside baseball.

            • Kodie

              @Lady29 – it just seems weird on an atheist blog to see two people debate what god wants from either of you, most especially since Brother James doesn’t seem to want to discuss anything when he’d rather point out where satan is afoot. MOOT! I didn’t mean neither one of you is a real Christian, I meant neither one of you are making any sense or any progress, so for all I care, you win. I just tossed a nickel in the air and it came down heads – you are the real Christian. If it had come down on the edge, I would have been forced to give the victory to John C!

            • lady29

              elemenope and kodie atheists love to look for hypocrisy in christianity so that they can sharpen their debate skills to make christians look like fools. I was simply arguing the womens role in the church not over who is more christian.

            • Kodie

              To be super-fair, being this is an atheist blog, not that you are not welcome to discuss things, but Christians tend to make themselves look like fools – I mean, being this an atheist blog, and most of us familiar with the “evidence” and “arguments” that “prove” something you cannot prove, or why you are dazzled by it, but not me. Brother James seems pretty far over into crazy town, so I don’t really see a debate over whether women can preach so much as you exhausting yourself over it to a guy who seems pretty certain (and incoherent) about everything he doesn’t like being the work of satan. He is not to debate seriously, but you can help make fun of him if you want. You can pray for him, I mean, whatever rocks you.

            • Sunny Day

              “sharpen their debate skills to make christians look like fools.”

              Don’t flatter yourself.

          • lady29

            one more thing you said satans favorite weapon is women and mentioned mary, Mary who?

            • yahweh

              I think he meant Mary of Peter, Paul and Mary.

              I love it…..3 Xtians can’t even agree on what their sky-daddy said or didn’t say, on what he did or didn’t do. Nonsense, utter nonsense.

            • lady29

              yahweh do you agree with everyone you talk to christian or not? same principal here.

            • Jabster

              But surely they all dealing with the an all powerful god. I mean how much of an idiot is he if he can’t even get his message across clearly?

            • Daniel Florien

              God wanted to tell everyone which Christian was the real one, but he was too busy making earthquakes to pass the time.

            • Sunny Day

              You ever make an earthquake? Takes a lot of fine control.

            • Brother James

              Hello Yahweh. Peace of Christ.

              You say >>>>I think he meant Mary of Peter, Paul and Mary.

              I love it…..3 Xtians can’t even agree on what their sky-daddy said or didn’t say, on what he did or didn’t do. Nonsense, utter nonsense.<<<

              You are 1000000000% INCORRECT….We Christians "KNOW" for a fact what we believe otherwise we wouldn't be "Christians"…..your ignorance and fooliness makes you say that, which is the main thing the people of satan does….we know that, and let me tell you this…it bothers us none…..when the people of satan, says anything about us….it just make our faith stronger….thanks….I have been in both sides, so I know…

              God Bless……………Brother James

  • T.K.

    I’ve just seen Scott on TV for the first time and was very intrigued…and, sorry, I wasn’t intrigued because of the sermon which I found boring and couldn’t follow. I was intrigued because she’s so damn hot!

    Yes, I suppose I am a shallow man, but there it is.

    What I also find fascinating is her accent. Although her English is perfect, I am trying to decipher where exactly she is from. Here is what I’ve narrowed it down to. I think it’s one of the following and I think she was brought up in one of the following locations and then came to Los Angeles:

    1) Aruba;

    2) Quebec; or

    3) French-speaking Louisiana Bayou in which she didn’t learn English until she entered Kindergarten.

    Does anyone know where she is from originally?

    • Elemenope

      To me she sounds more like she’s from Fargo, North Dakota.

  • Anthony Bucci

    Needless to say, the first time I saw Pastor Scott, I was enchanted by her beauty. But then I listened to her message. Pastor Scott’s ability to break down the Bible and answer all of the questions I never had answered in Catholic school are remarkable. (If she doesn’t speak and write Greek, she’s doing a good job of faking it.) I was called a heretic and a blasphemer by the time I was in the fourth grade. Unfortunately, my teachers were intimidated by questions they couldn’t answer.
    I don’t hear anyone ridiculing John Madden, the ‘it could go all the way guy’ or other media symbols for their looks or their ‘pontificating’ about our new religious holyday, the Super Bowl. What about Jimmy Johnson doing the commercial for the penis enlarging product. Cut me a break!!!
    God has a sense of humor. If I had turned on the TV and found Pastor Scott’s deceased husband preaching, I would have kept clicking away. As I mentioned earlier, I found her attractive enough to keep listening. Then I heard the message. The questions I’ve had for a lifetime are being broken down in logical bits and pieces and answered. CSI: “The Word” I’ll paraphrase Herbert Spencer, ‘contempt prior to investigation.’
    Defeat gossip by ignoring it. Jesus had parables and the ability to reach people if they were willing to listen. It all comes down to faith.
    And finally, only one other ‘entity’ is more harassed than Jesus Christ – it’s satan. His best tool is in convincing someone that he doesn’t exist.
    To follow the teachings of Christ, I have no need to defend what I’ve written. I pray for the detractors that God grant them the grace He’s granted me – to look past the messenger so I can hear the message.

    • Brother James

      Hello Anthony Bucci. Peace of Christ.

      You say >>>>Needless to say, the first time I saw Pastor Scott, I was enchanted by her beauty. But then I listened to her message. Pastor Scott’s ability to break down the Bible and answer all of the questions I never had answered in Catholic school are remarkable. (If she doesn’t speak and write Greek, she’s doing a good job of faking it.) I was called a heretic and a blasphemer by the time I was in the fourth grade. Unfortunately, my teachers were intimidated by questions they couldn’t answer.
      I don’t hear anyone ridiculing John Madden, the ‘it could go all the way guy’ or other media symbols for their looks or their ‘pontificating’ about our new religious holyday, the Super Bowl. What about Jimmy Johnson doing the commercial for the penis enlarging product. Cut me a break!!!
      God has a sense of humor. If I had turned on the TV and found Pastor Scott’s deceased husband preaching, I would have kept clicking away. As I mentioned earlier, I found her attractive enough to keep listening. Then I heard the message. The questions I’ve had for a lifetime are being broken down in logical bits and pieces and answered. CSI: “The Word” I’ll paraphrase Herbert Spencer, ‘contempt prior to investigation.’
      Defeat gossip by ignoring it. Jesus had parables and the ability to reach people if they were willing to listen. It all comes down to faith.
      And finally, only one other ‘entity’ is more harassed than Jesus Christ – it’s satan. His best tool is in convincing someone that he doesn’t exist.
      To follow the teachings of Christ, I have no need to defend what I’ve written. I pray for the detractors that God grant them the grace He’s granted me – to look past the messenger so I can hear the message.<<<<<

      Read what the bible says:

      2 Cor.11:3 But I am affraid that just as "EVE" was deceived by the serpent's "CUNNING" your minds may somehow be lead astray from your sincere and pure devotion to Christ….

      See!!!! Paul was writting to Jews who were already came out of the falsehood (You still are in)….and I understand you, I understand you….that is why satan made the protestant denominations, to accomodate the catholics who were not happy with that church….she doesn't know anything about "Chtristianity", she knows 100000% about christendom the religion satan instituted through the catholic church, but she knows 0 "ZERO" about Christianity, as a matter of fact every word she speaks is a "BLASPHEMY" for the God of the bible Lord Jesus…..I know you do not see it, I understand…I spent over 50 years like you…till!!! The Lord put me in a chek mate….and took me for a ride into other dimention….when I came out of coma, and I learned that I was dead, so dead that I was sent to the morgue…..I understood everything, I understood why I uderstood the bible, why I understood so many questions I had as a catholic and as a protestant…..

      The job of satan is to trick people who allows him to do that….and he is the best for that…..I hope some day you call on the Lord and ask for a revelation….then you will see yourself, and what you believe as true…….is nothing but..an ilusion, false……..

      God Bless……………..Brother James

      • Anthony

        Brother James, thank you for your insightful words. I believe we all travel a different path to serve the Lord. Hopefully we all end up in the same place – with God. Everybody can’t be right, if you know what I mean. The comment I made about the attractiveness of Pastor Scott – the Lord has different ways of drawing us to His message. As for the money issue, many teachers and believers may have ulterior motives – or in this case overt motives. I’ve never seen or heard someone preach the Word of God who isn’t imperfect in some way. This opinion is in present tense. When I believe that I have all of the answers for everyone, then I’m playing God. As I said, “Don’t shoot the messenger.”
        Just an idea – since Pastor Scott does a live 24/7 Internet feed, stop the streaming video when she translates from Greek to our present day English. Open a separate window and go to Dictionary.com. The English word that translates from Greek usually has the origin of the word. Simply compare her translations to what is entered into the dictionary website. One can also use Google to translate into the language referenced. Of course. there may be some changes since there are different dialects that have altered the language changes over time, ie:, classical Latin, Middle Latin, etc.
        Pastor Scott does deliver what I believe is an excellent message which I find inspiring.
        The ‘televangelists’ talked down to their followers. Pastor Scott is instructional. I mentioned before, she breaks down in bits and pieces her primary point.
        God bless you and keep you , Anthony

        Btw, Mother Teresa (a woman) was probably the closest living example of the work of Jesus. Below are words attributed to her:

        People are often unreasonable, irrational, and self-centered.
        Forgive them anyway.
        If you are kind, people may accuse you of selfish, ulterior motives. Be kind anyway.
        If you are successful, you will win some unfaithful friends and some genuine enemies. Succeed anyway.
        If you are honest and sincere people may deceive you. Be honest and sincere anyway.
        What you spend years creating, others could destroy overnight. Create anyway.
        If you find serenity and happiness, some may be jealous. Be happy anyway.
        The good you do today, will often be forgotten. Do good anyway.
        Give the best you have, and it will never be enough. Give your best anyway.
        In the final analysis, it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway

  • http://none ray and samone

    THE BIBLE STATES THAT NO WOMAN SHOULD BE A TEACHER OR PREACH TO MEN…NO IF OR BUTS THE BIBLE SAYS….
    THE ROAD TO HEAVEN GOES THRU JESUS……..NO OTHER WAY….THE DEVILS OF THE WORLD KNOW THE BIBLE TOO……..THIS WOMAN SCOTT IS LEADING HER FLOCK ASTRAY…..PRETTY OR NOT SHE WILL NOT HELP SAVE YOUR SOUL WHEN JUDGEMENT COMES…….JUST A WORD OF ADVICE…..TURN FROM THESE PREACHERS……A CHRIST FOLLOWER AND A MAN….

    • trj

      You’ve totally convinced me, ray. With arguments as compelling as this, how can anyone possibly stay atheist. Especially when it’s presented by a man.

      • Paul

        Unnecessary bolding assigned…

        “The bible states that no woman should be a teacher…”

        So… we shouldn’t listen to our mothers?


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