I was unable to do this dialogue which Justin Brierley asked me to do, as I am in the midst of an intensive doctoral seminar on Socio-Rhetorical analysis of the NT, so I am quite happy that Darrell Bock was willing to step in quickly from Germany to do this dialogue. You will find this discussion interesting, if provocative. BW3
http://media.premier.org.uk/unbelievable/6d0adcb0-35d3-4fbc-9263-47785c915d88.mp3