It will be interesting to see how Torture Defenders rationalize this.
Basic rule of thumb: What we authorize Caesar to do to keep us safe from foreigners, he will sooner or later do to keep us safe from ourselves.
Case in point: the British Empire. It took up the white man’s burden
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild–
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.
Half a century after those lines were written, the Planners of the UK were taking up the same burden on behalf of the soon-to-be wards of socialist UK–still with the sense of noblesse oblige that Planners always begin with as they turn people into cattle.
How you treat cattle depends on how you feel about them. If you regard them as pets, you will treat them one way–as the UK planners have generally treated their subjects. If you regard them more as animals for exploitation and eventual slaughter (as Americans are inclined to do in their darkest utilitarian moments) then a much more brutal fate may await the cow who crosses Caesar.
We’ll see.