Lefty Perfecti Seek to Purge the Church of the Wrong Sort of Sinner

Lefty Perfecti Seek to Purge the Church of the Wrong Sort of Sinner March 14, 2014

Our culture tends to specialize in fostering the sorts of sins that drive Reactionaries up the wall.  So we get lots of calls from Reactionaries (almost entirely unheeded, thank God) for purges and cleansings and kickings out of those kinds of sinners.  This can create the illusion that the Left is immune to this kind of intolerance.

But, of course, when the sinner is somebody guilty of sins of which the Left is intolerant, Lefties are quite as able to don the paper mitre and demand the expulsion of the filthy sinner from the precincts of Holy.  Happily, Christ welcomes sinners or I’d be totally out in the street in a second.

I leave kicking people out to bishops.  I’m grateful that they are very reluctant to kick anybody out.

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  • quasimodo

    I’m not interested in kicking sinners out, but I do wish that when they have completely abandoned church teaching they would just be honest and stop passing as Catholic in public. I’m talking about Jesuit priests who are university professors who deny the Resurrection and/or Real Presence. I’ talking about politicians who support the intolerable. I’m not asking for much … just that they be honest.

    • BillyT92679

      I think the thing is, they think themselves still Catholic (and, frankly, due to their baptism, technically they still are). They might hold heretical beliefs, but they are Catholic, even if we think they are excommunicated latae sentiae

      • IRVCath

        Right. Being Catholic does leave an indelible mark on the soul…

    • Scott W.

      Actually, I think Mark would agree that if someone in a position of teaching authority within the Church was clearly and publicly teaching error and not recanting (like the example of a Jesuit priest), that they ought to be removed.

      • And yet it seems if we did, half the parishes would be empty.

        Personally, I say we need more circuit riding priests, more missions, fewer parishes.

        • BillyT92679

          Well, I guess, but so many priests are spread thin enough as is…

        • Scott W.

          You are right, but half the parishes being empty wouldn’t necessarily be a terrible thing if it meant no longer pretending that there isn’t a state of de facto schism in the Church.

          • Dan C

            It would be an awful thing.

            • Scott W.

              You changed my mind. It would indeed be an awful thing. However, the status quo cannot hold. People got bent out of shape when Benedict XVI talked about a “smaller but purer” Church because they thought it meant inquisitions and booting people out of the Church and being a general meanie. Rather, it means as the surrounding culture races to the bottom, Catholics will not be able to get away with the kind of Gollumesque “We be nice to them if theys be nice to us” policy they’ve enjoyed so far and will have to choose Church or Babylon, and many in the Church chose Babylon long ago and it’s just a matter of the circumstances to make that formal. My idea is that our leadership get in front of it and try to save as many souls as possible beforehand.

              • Dan C

                What are the errors and who claims them? I read blogs and listen to the claims of evil heretical priests and then read their quoted heresies. So often it isn’t so much what is said that defines the heresy in the mind of the critique, it’s what isn’t said or even emphasized enough. These criticisms are by far the norm.

                Next are the pelvic dissenters which transgress something called in America the “non-negotiables” which is a comment Ratzinger sent in a private email.

                Benedict then goes on to write three encyclicals that conservatives hate so much they nearly overtly reject them, des gushing “Benedict love.” I do not know what to make of those who reject Caritas in Veritate so aggressively. Or the folks at Acton who seem to toy with economic philosophies that place man in service to things. As such, what are the non-negotiables?

                The “throw them out” clarion call was loudest at the time of Benedict’s ascension to the papacy. I do not understand the attraction to that thinking.

                • I consider the Acton folks to be just as bad as those actively promoting homosexuality.

                • Scott W.

                  Well, since I don’t identify with, or have experienced any of the things you are describing, I’ll leave you to it.

            • chezami

              Agreed.

        • Dan C

          Half the parishes? We really want to propagate that statistic?

          • And I thought I was being optimistic with that statistic. Just count the number of parishes still using crystal for the eucharist.

        • Rebecca Fuentes

          Covering parishes and missions is tough on priests. We have a lot of little mission churches here in Wyoming. There are places that get mass only once or twice a month. It’s long miles, often in nasty weather and on bad roads. It’s hardly something to hope for.

          • It’d be better than having masses presided over by priests who spend the rest of the week rallying about the correctness of the free market and how wonderful it is that Pope Francis is now inclusive of homosexuality.

            • Rebecca Fuentes

              Is it really an either/or proposition though? Do we have to have priests be rarer than they are to have faithful priests? My parish (which is the largest in our, admittedly sparsely populated, county) had no priest for nearly a year. Before that, our priest for a decade had been a monk who came to be our pastor when the previous priest had a psychotic break.

              • Actually, I suspect that if we had faithful priests, there’d be more of them in the end- after a shakeup, during which many orders would try to move priests between diocese, of course.

      • chezami

        Of course.

    • IRVCath

      Which Jesuits? Every Jesuit I know seems to bristle if one even shows a hint of denying the Real Presence.

  • jroberts548

    There’s a big difference between demanding the expulsion of someone and being critical of hosting them at a fundraiser. We’re supposed to welcome sinners, not charge $500 for the chance of having a meet and greet with them.

    • Dave G.

      If we can’t charge 500 for meeting and greeting sinners, then we can’t charge 500 at all.