David French at National Review Does Battle with Dark Enlightenment Racists

David French at National Review Does Battle with Dark Enlightenment Racists October 1, 2015

and their special friend, Ann Coulter.

Sane and decent Conservatives in the GOP and its organs of propaganda have a job ahead of them getting this racist monster herded back into its lair and a rolling a boulder across the mouth of the cave so that it can’t get back out. I wish them God’s help and blessing through Christ our Lord.

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  • Holy crap, the comments section is making me sick to my stomach.

    • billyjoerob

      Considering that NRO has probably already banned 50% of the commenters, you’re reading the ones who can still get through.

  • BillyT92679

    Liberalism untethered to religion is tyranny. Conservatism untethered to religion is anarchy.

    There’s an element to the right that isn’t Catholic or Evangelical at all. I know immediate family who fall into this. They HATE organized religion, are pro-choice, love the NRA, oppose gay marriage really because they hate gay people, are virulently racist and anti-Semitic and hate immigrants.

    • Pete the Greek

      “Liberalism untethered to religion is tyranny. Conservatism untethered to religion is anarchy”
      – I think the facts show otherwise. All political ideology untethered to religion, ALL OF THEM, descend to tyranny.

      If you read enough of the literature, articles, etc from these groups (from hardcore NeoCon hangouts like pajamasmedia to ultra left meccas like democratic underground, you always seem them promoting statism and government control over more and more of the lives of everyone. Same principle, just applied from a different direction to start with, but all ending up in the same place.

      The most hysterically funny example of this are a bunch of images from left wing protest marches where ACTUAL avowed anarchists show up. Their banners all, every one, shouted hardcore statist demands.

    • jaybird1951

      Has American liberalism itself become largely untethered to religion over the past couple of decades?

      • Dan13

        Perhaps not yet, older democrats and minorities tend to still be religious.

      • Bemused

        Religion has largely untethered itself from liberalism. Certain social issued became more important than other social issues and so Religion embraced the “Conservative” movement, rather than hold itself outside the fray.

  • HornOrSilk

    I think a lot of the “Dark Enlightenment” racism was able to build up with conspiracy theorists and the Obama presidency. When one reads what was going on in the birther sites, and the connections they made, some of it makes sense. It’s why many saw the birthers as racists, while those who didn’t, even if they didn’t agree with the birthers, often listened to what else the birthers had to say, allowing their dark ideology to spread.

  • neoconned

    I say let her keep talking. The more she speaks, the more she’s going to alienate herself. If she keeps it up, the only speaking gigs she’ll be able to get will be at white supremacist rallies.

    • Dan13

      She’s always played to a fringe crowd. The 5% or so of Americans who agree with her can buy a lot of books, after all.

      • MarylandBill

        The problem is that because she gets so much media attention, she and people like her play an enormous role in shaping the perception of non-conservatives about what conservatives actually believe.

        • Pete the Greek

          THIS

        • Stu

          She is a “non-conservative.”

          • MarylandBill

            I am not saying she is… but it is what most people believe… including her and her followers.

            • Stu

              Yes, I agree and understood your point.

              I could have certainly added that I believe liberalism is the problem and has always been the problem and that includes both major parties no matter what they call themselves. They are just liberal on different things though they seem to be converging on much.

    • Alma Peregrina

      “I say let her keep talking. The more she speaks, the more she’s going to alienate herself.

      Never underestimate the ability of normal folk to be swayed into ideological crazyness. I remember when I thought the same way about pro-choicers and pro-LGBTers.

  • AquinasMan

    Yeah, I read this article before, and the comment section is UN-believable.

  • Pete the Greek

    ” rolling a boulder across the mouth of the cave so that it can’t get back out.”
    – Ooohhh…. not a good idea. The results from Innsmouth should teach us what happens when you prevent them from throwing offerings down into the deep water for any length of time…

    • Rebecca Fuentes

      Better stake it in the heart, shove a bulb of garlic in the mouth, behead it, burn it, and bury the ashes at a crossroads.

  • Sven2547

    This is a monster of conservatives’ own making. For the last 14 years, they have been cultivating and pandering to the xenophobic white-supremacist element. They have cheered for creeps like Geert Wilders and Nick Griffin. They’ve called cretins like Joe Arpaio and Cliven Bundy ‘True Patriots’. They’ve even elected unapologetic racists like Ira Hansen to high office.

    You reap what you sow.

    • Scott W.

      They have cheered for creeps like Geert Wilders and Nick Griffin. They’ve called cretins like Joe Arpaio and Cliven Bundy…Ira Hansen

      Who? If the political spectrum were like the light spectrum, I’d be so far right you would need special equipment just to observe me and I’ve never heard of any of these guys.

      • Sven2547

        Geert Wilders and Nick Griffin are celebrities of the anti-Islamic European far-right. Republican Congressmen have repeatedly invited Wilders to speak at conservative events in the United States.

        Joe Arpaio is in the news pretty frequently. He is frequently lauded by conservatives for his tough, no-nonsense enforcement of immigration laws. His cruelty to prisoners is infamous.

        You had to be hiding under a rock to not hear about Cliven Bundy last year. He was front-page news for a week. He’s the Nevada rancher who refused to pay the fees for grazing his cattle on federal land. He was lauded as a right-wing hero for standing up to the big bad government. He’s also as racist as the day is long.

        Ira Hansen is Nevada’s Speaker Of The House. He was elected just last year, despite (or maybe even because of) his contempt for the “simple-minded darkies”. He’s a Republican, of course.

        • jaybird1951

          Geert Wilders has also been the target of Islamic radicals intent on killing him. His views were strongly influenced by the murders of a couple other prominent Dutchmen by Muslims in the Netherlands, one of them on the open street in Amsterdam in a grizzly fashion. I think that needs to be pointed out since you avoided mentioning it.

          • Sven2547

            Okay, and? This is relevant how?

        • Scott W.

          You had to be hiding under a rock to not hear about Cliven Bundy last year. He was front-page news for a week.

          I must confess to not being a current-events man. Ironically enough, I learned this from Christian Marxist Jacques Ellul:

          “To the extent that propaganda is based on current news, it cannot permit time for thought or reflection. A man caught up in the news must remain on the surface of the event; he is carried along in the current, and can at no time take a respite to judge and appreciate; he can never stop to reflect. There is never any awareness — of himself, of his condition, of his society — for the man who lives by current events. Such a man never stops to investigate any one point, any more than he will tie together a series of news events. We already have mentioned man’s inability to consider several facts or events simultaneously and to make a synthesis of them in order to face or to oppose them. One thought drives away another; old facts are chased by new ones. Under these conditions there can be no thought. And, in fact, modern man does not think about current problems; he feels them. He reacts, but be does not understand them any more than he takes responsibility for them. He is even less capable of spotting any inconsistency between successive facts; man’s capacity to forget is unlimited. This is one of the most important and useful points for the propagandist, who can always be sure that a particular propaganda theme, statement, or event will be forgotten within a few weeks. Moreover, there is a spontaneous defensive reaction in the individual against an excess of information and — to the extent that he clings (unconsciously) to the unity of his own person — against inconsistencies. The best defense here is to forget the preceding event. In so doing, man denies his own continuity; to the same extent that he lives on the surface of events and makes today’s events his life by obliterating yesterday’s news, he refuses to see the contradictions in his own life and condemns himself to a life of successive moments, discontinuous and fragmented.”

          • Sven2547

            There is a difference between “living by current events” and at least being aware of current events. Let’s not kid ourselves into thinking we become wiser by not watching the news.

            • Scott W.

              I intended that quote in the spirit of exchange and edification, not for starting a gratuitous argument. Have a nice day.

              • Mike Petrik

                You must be new to this blog.

      • sw85

        Scott, Geert Wilders is the self-described “far right liberal” who hates Islam in part because it’s too mean to gays and who vigorously approves of the Dutch government making Muslim immigrants watch and approve of porn as a condition of entrance. He is in other words “far right” if you occupy the extremely narrow band of social thought occupied by Mark Shea and his combox regulars.

        • Sven2547

          He is in other words “far right” if you occupy the extremely narrow band of social thought occupied by Mark Shea and his combox regulars.

          Moderates and liberals think Wilders is far-right too, not just center-rightists like Shea.

          The man says the Quran should be banned outright, all mosques closed, and all immigrants from majority-Muslim countries turned away. His party has even called for a blanket ban on turbins. These are wacky, extreme, anti-religious-freedom positions, here.

          • Dan13

            Now if he had proposed a blanket ban on fedoras then I might get on board.

            • PalaceGuard

              Not to mention those stupid hip-hop baseball cap with brims the size of a diving board. Don’t know why, but those just plain irritate me!

            • Mike Petrik

              Fedoras? Say it ain’t so! I know men don’t know how to dress anymore (or care), but banning attractive attire would be a venial sin, at least!

  • chezami

    The lesson of the cesspool in the NRO comboxes is not “These people are Democrat moles sent to make conservatives look awful”. The lesson is that the Party of Personal Responsibility had damn well better face the fact that decades of their catechesis has produced what we see in those comboxes, as well as the Trumpkin base. Are all conservatives like this? Rubbish. David French’s attempt to stamp out this vile filth is testament to that. But the fact remains that that roaring mob of racists did not receive their intellectual formation at the tit of the Nation or the National Catholic Reporter. These are people who self-identify as conservatives and as coming from the Right. Their behavior and thought are a stain and a scandal.

    • Stu

      Mark, do you identify as a “conservative” or “Republican?”

      Honestly, just wondering.

      • chezami

        I identify as Catholic. I used to call myself a conservative Catholic, or what Peter Kreeft called a “non-revisionist” Catholic (which I took to mean the same thing). “Conservative” Catholicism as it is popularly lived in this country has killed that stone cold dead. It’s infection with Movement Conservative dementia, and it deep, dark, and rage-filled contempt for the pope and the gospel it cannot cannibalize has made clear it is as passionately hostile to the Church as Catholics for a Free Choice. The papal visit was very clarifying that way. Not all conservatives, of course, buy the bushwah that so many conservatives and reactionaries are pumping out. But conservatives is badly infected with this crap. I’ll stick with the Church.

        • Stu

          I think it is infected with what it is; liberalism. Both mainstream parties are liberals and you know this. So why would you get any more worked up over the so-called “right” as you would over the so-called “left”? I understand that you believe the “right” is more at fault because they supposedly think themselves as “Real Catholics” or “pure” or whatever. Feh. The guys on the left say the same thing and I have been a victim of it. Again, they are infected with liberalism. We have two liberal parties with most Americans conditions to put political ideology over the Faith and that include many of fellow Catholics. It’s only now that the economic liberals (“conservatives”) are getting the wire brush from the Pope that they are reacting. But it’s no different than the reaction from the social liberals when they are taken to the woodshed.

          So what do we do? Return in kind? Has that worked with the social liberals? It seems to me that part of the New Evangelization is reconverting our own ranks. Wouldn’t the apologetics playbook be appropriate?

          ON THE EDIT.
          I had my epiphany about the political parties prior to the 2008 election. I was Arlington National Cemetery which is a special place for me. My grandfathers are buried there, my mates from the Pentagon who dies on 911 are buried there and my infant daughter is buried there. One day, I too will be buried there with my wife. My father always insisted that when we visit that we go to see the changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. I was there on afternoon and actually alone as I was in town without my family. As I was silently watching the guard change walk his post, I pondered on the Capitol in the distance along with the many graves down below. I came to the conclusion that I feel more allegiance to the my brothers in arms than I do to the many politicians who worked in the distance. I love my Country by I don’t care for the direction of my Nation. At the same time, I was becoming acquainted with traditional CST through Chesterton and John Medaille which further dovetailed with my move towards what you would call “Traditionalism”. But I don’t feel bitter towards the Republicans or “Conservatives” just like I don’t feel bitter towards good old Paster Schwengel who taught me the Lord’s Prayer when I was a protestant. Take the good and leave the bad.

          • bill

            Catholicism is ontologically different from the fallen ideology of conservatism. Conservatism is corruptible. Gotta know when to turn around and run fast and far away from the used-car salesmen, Stu. I had to do the same thing myself with these political “movements”.

        • Sue Korlan

          I identify myself as a faithful Catholic because I believe ALL of what the Church teaches

  • Stu

    Does anyone though disagree with her when she says,”How to get applause from GOP donors: 1) Pledge to start a war 2) Talk about job creators 3) Denounce abortion 4) Cite Reagan 5) Cite Israel.”

    • Dan C

      This is spot on.

  • Tom G

    This pretty much sums up the argument between the parties at this point:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dUoxruCh8c

  • PalaceGuard

    Coulter is an intelligent, articulate woman. She is also, all too often, one nasty piece of work.