‘Daughter, go in peace’

‘Daughter, go in peace’ March 14, 2012

Let me quote the actual words of Luke 8:40-48, this time from the New Revised Standard Version:

As he went, the crowds pressed in on him.

Now there was a woman who had been suffering from hemorrhages for twelve years; and though she had spent all she had on physicians, no one could cure her. She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his clothes, and immediately her hemorrhage stopped.

Then Jesus asked, “Who touched me?”

When all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the crowds surround you and press in on you.”

But Jesus said, “Someone touched me; for I noticed that power had gone out from me.”

When the woman saw that she could not remain hidden, she came trembling; and falling down before him, she declared in the presence of all the people why she had touched him, and how she had been immediately healed.

He said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace.”

The Gospel of the Lord.

This is a story from the Bible about a woman.

This is a story from the Bible about a woman who could not afford health care.

This is a story from the Bible about a woman who could not afford reproductive health care.

This is a story from the Bible about a woman who broke religious rules because she could not afford reproductive health care.

This is a story from the Bible that tells us how Jesus responds to a woman who broke religious rules because she could not afford reproductive health care.

The Gospel of the Lord.

So if some Christian official, authority, scholar, author, activist, advocate, politico, pundit, pastor, priest, bishop, cardinal or pope tries to tell you that religious rules trump women’s need for reproductive health care, ask them about this story. Remind them of it.

Remind them that Jesus rather explicitly showed us otherwise.

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  • nirrti

     Ohai, J! Howya doin’?

    Nice trolling first attempt. I’d give it a 9.3 but for your lack of originality, I have to deduct nine tenths of a point from your final score.

  • Anonymous

    Guys… FLAG, don’t respond!

    It begins to puzzle me that you keep saying this, Brandi.  Trolls gotta troll, and Slacktivites gotta make assumptions of good faith.  I don’t think that’s going to change any time soon, as there are plenty of people on this board who feel that it is better to respond than to let ridiculous arguments go unchallenged.  Mostly for the sake of innocent third parties reading the thread rather than in any real hope of changing the troll’s mind.

    Do you have a particular reason for objecting?  Is it because responses encourage the trolls to return?  Or because you find the responses as irritating as the original trolling, because they take up so much of the thread?  I think you’re going to have to actually convince people that responding to trolls is a bad thing, rather than just telling them not to, before you get anyone to change their behaviour.  (And, for the record, vivid metaphors involving bodily substances are probably going to disgust and annoy, but not convince as they do not constitute an argument in themselves).

  •  I hate to say it, but by MRA standards Theophile isn’t even mildly
    surprising, let alone terrifying. There are many more and much worse
    where he came from. MRA circles are a total cesspool.

    Oh, believe you me, I know.  Every once in a while I run across an article by an MRA-enabler that’s made it’s way to the mainstream (usually it’s by Kay Hymowitz, by the by), and find it necessary to write up a new post under my ZOMG! Teh Menz! tag.  It always requires me to wade in to the cesspit that is MRA/PUA culture.

    They always make me sad to be a man.

  •  Do you have a particular reason for objecting?  Is it because responses
    encourage the trolls to return?  Or because you find the responses as
    irritating as the original trolling, because they take up so much of the
    thread?

    Here’s my theory:  Back in the early days of the ol’ Web 2.0 the standard response to any variety of trolling was DNFTT.  The theory was, and I believe this was couched in an actual belief about humanity in general, that if you did not feed the troll the troll would go away and an important lesson would be learned by everyone.

    I’ve noticed over the last couple years that most blogs have switched from DNFTT to GRATTUTTGU, or “Gleefully Rip Apart the Troll Until the Troll Gives Up.”  It’s basically a form of sport, and it’s not that big of a deal, since everyone forgets in about 24 hours, anyway.  The internet has a long memory but a very short recall.

    Some people still operate under the DNFTT protocols.  Brandi appears to be one of them.  It’s based on a tautological premise of the olden days of teh internetz that have been proven untrue time and time again.  No matter what you do there will always be another troll to smack around.

  • The Lodger

    Paulites

    Would that be Ron, Rand, or Ru?

  • Only if Jesus himself is administering it.

  • Makabit

    So how did the notion that menstruating women are “unclean” come about? Simple squick over the sight of “blood”? Men being inconvenienced by being cut off sexually for a short time? If it’s the latter, cry me a river already.

    The rules of ritual purity are complex as all get out, but the basic theme you see running through Torah is that any sort of discharge of blood or semen renders you ritually unclean, man or woman. The means of becoming clean (‘tahor’) once again varies from era to era, but the core of it is that you bathe ritually once the discharge has healed or ended.

    In Jesus’ day, with the Temple still standing, issues of ritual purity would still have been highly relevant to Jewish men–the Essenes were heavily into it, but for ordinary guys, it would still have been important on a number of levels.

    Most of that is gone now, but since avoiding intercourse with a woman who is niddah, unclean because of menstruation or other vaginal discharge of blood, is a separate prohibition from the ones about general ritual purity, those laws remained relevant in Judaism, and developed in complexity over the centuries.