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GOOD GRIEF — WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

 

Having recently gone through the devastating experience of having our beautiful 32-year-old daughter die, completely unexpectedly, of a pulmonary embolism, I was determined from Day One (January 11, when she was found dead in her home in Durham, N.C.) to be open to whatever positive thing there might be to glean from this.  I cling by my fingernails to the promise of Romans 8:28 that “God works all things together for good for those who love him….”

The first point that was immediately confirmed in my heart was theological: God did not do this to my baby.  God is not the author of evil.  God does not terminate sweet children’s lives with pulmonary embolisms.  Pulmonary embolisms are a result of human fallenness and the bent nature of this world.

One of the primary reasons I am not a Calvinist and do not believe in such predestinings from the hand of God is (1) because I find it impossible to believe that I am more merciful or compassionate than God.   Also, (2) the Biblical portrait of God is that God is pure light and holy love; in him there is no darkness, nothing other than light and love.  (3) The words “The Lord gives, and the Lord takes away,” from the lips of Job, are not good theology.  They’re bad theology.  According to Job 1, it was not God, but the Devil who took away Job’s children, health and wealth.  God allowed it to happen, but when Job said these words, as the rest of the story shows, he was not yet enlightened about the true nature of where his calamity came from and what God’s will actually was for his life — which was for good, and not for harm.

So, for me, the beginning of good grief starts with the premise of a good God.  Otherwise, all bets are off.  If God is almighty and malevolent, then there is no solace to be found in God.   If God is the author of sin, evil, suffering, the fall, and death, then the Bible makes no sense when it tells us that (1) God tempts no one, that (2) God’s will is that none should perish but have everlasting life, and that (3) death is the very enemy of God and humankind that Jesus, who is life, came to abolish and destroy.

“He came that we might have life and have abundantly.”  If there are promises I cling to, as I weep for my sweet Christy, it is this promise, not the sorry solace and cold comfort of “God did this but we do not know why.”  No.  A thousand times, no!  God and his will are always and only for what is good, and true, and beautiful, and loving, and holy.

As I stared at my baby in the casket — who did not even resemble herself at that juncture — I was so thankful that the God of the resurrection had a better plan for her than that cold comfort that “It’s all God’s will.”  I believe in a God whose Yes to life is louder than death’s No — not because God likes to hold antinomies like life and death together in some sort of mysterious unity, but because God is in the trenches with us, fighting the very same evils we fight in this world, like disease, decay, death, suffering, sorrow and sin.

They don’t call him the Great Physician for nothing.  He too took the Hippocratic Oath: “Do no harm.”

  • Ardavaz

    Dear Mr Witherington,

    I am sorry for your loss, God’s love is always with you and he always gives comfort. I have lost my 17 year old son last year, he was murdered by 6 teenagers. My refuge was my bible, it gave me strenght, hope and answerd some of my questions, since then I came across your blog, every day I check your site and read the articlaes and look for encoraging words and hope as a silent reader, When I read about the sad news of your daughter’s passing, I felt your pain as a father. All I can say is you are doing a good job and alot of people relay on your writings. Our loved ones are with our LORD, and I hope I will be worthy to be with them when time comes. You and your family will be in our prays.

  • Wesley Wong

    I’m very sorry for you and wife. God be with you.

  • http://www.facebook.com/donbryant1 Don Bryant

    Thanks for some of the biblical reflection during this most heavy of times. Feels like solid ground to me. You all continue to be in my prayers.

  • Prchrmom

    I’d be curious to know what you think of the passage in Isaiah, “I make weal and I create woe”. Do you understand that as a description of the consequences of a fallen world? We really tussled with this one in seminary.

  • Elaine Heath

    Ben, your daughter was lovely in every way, and I am thankful to hear your thoughts about our loving God as you process this unimaginable grief.

  • Benw333

    Hi preachermom: I think you have to read that in light of the whole context of that portion of Isaiah. That sort of language usually refers to God vindicating his people by judging their oppressors. It has nothing to do with medical conditions that terminate someone’s life and certainly those remarks are not globalized statements about God causing everything that happens.

  • Pete Enns

    Thanks, Ben. Great, great, great points. I agree 100%.

  • Brett

    Wow…I had not heard of your loss…I am so sorry and my prayers are with your family my friend. It is amazing to see that in such great loss, God just used your words to truly move and teach me. You have an amazing gift. Love you Prof.

  • Julie (Robertson) Hare

    Thank you for sharing your thoughts in the midst of your own loss. As usual, you speak right to the heart of things from your heart (and head!). I especially appreciated your first reason for not believing “in such predestinings from the hand of God is (1) because I find it impossible to believe that I am more merciful or compassionate than God.” Well said. I have thought this same thing, though could not have said it as well!

  • Dave Doty

    As a parent, I can think of no other loss that could equal that of a child too young. I hope you know that I have always admired you for your walk with Christ and your life’s witness to His grace. Now more than ever, walking in His strength in this time of your suffering, I see Jesus all the more speaking through you, that your knowledge of God far surpasses any intellectual exercise…and it encourages me. It encourages me to always seek the redemptive hand of God in every circumstance. My prayers are with you, Ben, and your family. Thank you for this post and thank you for clinging to His Word.

  • Attytjj

    Thank you for sharing those thoughts and words in your time of sorrow and loss.

  • Jeff

    Ben, I will be praying for you and your family. I had no idea about this until a friend at church shared your blog with our GriefCare Ministry. May the Comforter continue to give peace and mend all the broken places in your hearts.
    By the way, I photographed you for Christianity Today many years ago and also benefited from your teaching in Greece while on Paul’s missionary journey. Hang in there.

  • J Gabriel Lawson

    Dr. Witherington,

    I am so greatly sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine.

    But thank you for writing this. It’s beautiful and resonates with my own soul.

    I know people will benefit from this post more than you’ll ever know.

  • Mike Voigts

    Ben,

    That you can articulate sound theology and personal heartache so effectively just days after burying your daughter is a clear indication of the work of God in your life. We continue to pray for you and your family during these difficult days. God is certainly a good God!

  • Greendoc34

    This morning before I read your blog, I received a text from my daughter in Nashville that my grandson’s baby was born dead. Of course, he and the mother are devestated. Your words- so encouraging and sound theologically- are helpful to me as I continue to process my own grief issues and will be passed on to the family in Nashville. Thank you for all you to for our Lord’s Kingdom! Randy

  • Kelly E Lawson

    This is so beautiful. Thank you for sharing with us in the midst of your grief.

  • Greg Van Dussen

    Thank you for this powerful, moving reflection. You and your family remain in my prayers.

  • Holly

    I have been thru hard times, too, Ben – thru grief and loss. I have come to the exact same conclusions.

    I am so sorry for your loss….

  • Michele Nordine

    Dr. Witherington, I am so shocked and sorry to hear about your daughter’s passing. Thank you for your writings always.

  • Sabbott406

    Dr. W. I am so sorry for your lose. I fully agree with you about the nature of our loving God. When we see Jesus, we see the Father – I never see Jesus making anyone sick or causing death. Just the opposite! “God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. (Acts 10:38)

  • Dan

    Dr. Witherington, I am praying for you and your family! Grace + Peace to you

  • Michael Thomson

    Well spoken…thinking biblical theology with clarity amid grief. The most powerful sermon I ever heard was by a pastor whose son had died the day before, struck down on his bicycle. By coincidence he had preached on “To live is Christ, to die is gain…” he felt deeply that he could not NOT preach that sermon if ever he had believed on the day after his son was lost. The very last words of his sermon revealed the context of the sermon. The benediction was given, and the entire congregation sat motionless…some wept…all knew that the good news of the good gospel had been given to them with more integrity than they would ever likely experience again. Amen Ben…and prayers continue…mourning with you who mourn even as you remember who you are in Christ.

  • Nathan Nordine

    Your family is in my family, and my church family’s prayers.
    You any your entire family have our deepest sympathies.
    Your “in the trenches” grief theology is good medicine brother. I will be sharing it with our Grief Recovery group and our church at large as well.
    In Christ’s love, Pastor Nathan Nordine Crestline, Ohio

  • http://www.joyinthisjourney.com Joy in this Journey

    It is indeed cold comfort to say, “It is God’s will.” Thank you for saying that. I was so sad for you to read of your daughter’s death. We buried our daughter 3 years ago, so I’m familiar with this grief and the crazy things people say. I wholeheartedly agree with you — God is GOOD and He did NOT do this thing.

  • Shannon

    Dr. Witherington, thank you for sharing this message with future Christian leaders. My husband and I graduated from ATS 2 years ago. Last month, we lost a child through miscarriage. I found so much comfort in the knowledge that God is sad too, and that he didn’t choose for my child’s life to end before it really even began. Asbury has prepared us for ministry, and also for life. And we are more than thankful for you and the other professors whose transparency and openness taught us what the Truth looks like in daily life. Thank you.

  • Brotheramy

    Dr. Ben, thanks so much for your reflections. I am going to forward it on to my congregation. Our little community has experienced much death in the past couple of weeks. We love you and hope to see you in March. ~Amy, Doogie, and Sophie

  • Lbroschat

    Dr. Witherington,

    Thanks you for your strength and grace in this message and peace be with you and your family in this devastating time.

  • Annhooker

    Dr. Witherington,

    I’m a former student from the Orlando ATS. I’m sorry for the loss of your beautiful daughter. Words are difficult in times like these, probably for you and especially for those trying to express sympathy. Yet, you were able to communicate to us the most precious words about where grief and theology intersect. Many of us get drawn into the “It was God’s will and we don’t know why” trap. There is just no where to go from there, no positive movement, except resignation. You have highlighted that God’s abundant love is where we start and where we go from here and God’s yes to life is louder than death’s No. God is with us. God is with you. God is with Christy. My prayer for you is that receive all the strength you need, to continue on in your walk with our precious and loving, Lord and Savior.

  • Alicia Coltzer

    Dr. Witherington,
    Your words are beautiful. Thank you for sharing your wisdom in the context of grief with us. You and your family are in my prayers.

  • Richard Harden

    Dr. W,

    I am very sorry to hear of the death of your daughter. Thank you for your powerful testimony of encouragement and understanding…

    -Richard

  • Krcarson2003

    So sorry, Ben, to hear you have lost your daughter. I can’t even imagine that kind of pain. Peace to you, as much as possible. You are in my prayers.

    Krissi

  • Marc Axelrod

    Hi Dr. Witherington.

    I think of you and Ann and David and Yuliya often in my prayers.

    I think of Isaiah 57:1-2. God sometimes takes the righteous home to spare them from troubled times to come. Some of the righteous Israelites were not ordained to witness the horrors of the Babylonian occupation. God had better plans for them. I think the same thing is true with Christy. God had something very special planned for her at this point in her eternal life. This of course is in sharp contrast with what awaits those who are unfaithful to God in Is 57:3ff

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1434969338 John Lane

    Greetings Dr. Ben

    May the Lord himself be your peace! Thank you for allowing us a glimpse into your heart during this difficult time. “the beginning of good grief starts with the premise of a good God” is a powerful truth.

    John

  • Thorn

    You show such grace in your grief. Although we would seek to provide you comfort, you have provided comfort to us through your words. I look forward to a great future reunion when pain and suffering exist no more.

  • Stacy Stone Vanderwerf

    Praying for you, Dr. Witherington. So very sad to hear of your loss.

  • Dan Jansen

    Ben,
    Giving us a glimpse into your grief will be helpful to many – thanks for this. God sure loves life… from the swarms of living creatures he created in Genesis, to the command to fill the earth with life, to the Tree of Life in Revelation, to His described heartache over death. To live in a fallen world means it’s effects will to touch our lives. But instead of God being on the other side of the table instructing us how to grieve, he’s sitting beside us as the God of comfort who went through His own grief as He watched His Son die.

    I hope you will continue to write both theologically and personally and you suffer through this.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=729190612 Chris Short

    Thank you Ben. I echo Mike’s sentiments. My thoughts are with you and your family and Christy’s world of friends.

  • Bob Schult, LaPorte, IN

    My heart goes out to you Ben. I cannot phathom such loss. Still, I’m so glad God has revealed Himself to you in the truth you describe. I’m betting it lessons the sting – something God’s heart is breaking to do for you. I don’t know you but you are in my prayer today. Can I add this to hopefully comfort….

    For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
    1Thess.4:16-18

    I’ve lost some of my elders but never a child – I imagine that’s a whole other thing. But, what a day we have to look forward to when we will see each other again, embrace and rejoice. Come quickly Lord.

    Heart felt love in Christ,
    Bob

  • http://revdrdre.com/ Dennis

    Dr. Witherington,
    thank you for sharing these thoughts with us, and allowing us to weep as you weep.

  • Jrlyman

    Amen, amen. God weeps with us.

  • Kendell Cameron

    Dr Witherington,
    I always love your blog, but this was truly powerful. Thanks for sharing this in the midst of your grief. May God’s peace be with you.

  • Rev Spike

    Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep.

  • Jon Weatherly

    Ben, I just want to offer my deepest sympathy. You are experiencing the one, awful thing that every parent fears most.

    Thank you for sharing your experience with your readers. It has to be a hard thing. I deeply appreciate the commitment to the cross that impels you to let life for others speak through your own experience of death.

  • Craig

    Ben, you are in my thoughts and prayers. Thank you for your wisdom and willingness to be vulnerable.

  • Sarah Harris

    great love and prayers to you from here in NZ.

  • Jenl95

    Dr. Ben,
    These words are a testimony of what it means to be a Christian and deal with the death of a loved one. They are so filled with hope and ring true when I think of the loss of my dad this past summer. You express it so well! Thank you for sharing with us in this time of your grief.

  • Anonymous

    Blessings to you.

  • Carla

    Your story really hit home with me. I lost my sister at age 31 to a pulmonary embolism. It has been several years ago, but I have always struggled with “WHY” at such a young age. Thank you for your testimony. My prayers are with you and your family. It is not easy, but God never told us that our lives would be easy.

  • Absonjoseph

    Your words are a great witness. Thanks for sharing them. We will continue to pray for you and support you in this journey. Peace!

  • Kathy Denmark

    Thank you for sharing this journey of grieving, hope, and truth. I’m so sad for your loss. If you have anything more to say….I’m listening.

  • Chris Howlett

    Very well said. Thank you. You remain in our prayers.

  • Benw333

    Thanks to you all. Carla, I understand entirely. I think we have to realize that it is not what we don’t understand about God that is the basis of our faith, it’s what we do understand, even in the face of tragedy. Blessings, Ben

  • Tab Miller

    Bless you, Dr. Witherington

  • Elizabeth Glass Turner

    Oh, Ben. I’m so very sorry. Our family will pray for your family – Bitty

  • Anonymous

    Well said. Thanks

  • http://jeffkclarke.com/ Jeff K. Clarke

    Many times excellent…A thoughtful, well-stated and biblically faithful response to the tragedies of life. Thank-you for sharing it with us.

  • Andy Gartman

    As a United Methodist pastor who buried the oldest of two sons when he was 32 in October, 2008 I can add my own hearty Amen! to the other positive comments. I’m so thankful that I had already come to a place in my own spiritual journey where I had been given the grace to understand that “He came that we might have life and have it abundanty,” trumps “God did this but we do not know why,” and the cold comfort of “It’s all God’s will,” every time.
    I add my thanks to you for sharing this in such understandable yet eloquent ways. My prayers are with you and your family.
    The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you; the LORD lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=789318318 Larry Teasley

    Although it sounds counter-intuitive, we are commended to “weep with those who weep and rejoice with those who rejoice,” and for some reason, well beyond my understanding, I hope to do both with you. As a graduate of ATS, I thank you for, not only the witness you give, but the vulnerability you share with everyone, staff and student (including alums) alike.

  • http://OurRabbiJesus.com/ Lois Tverberg

    I’m so sorry to hear about your loss. What a terribly sad time for your family. May His comforting arms surround you especially right now.

  • Dara480

    Many prayers and wishes for healing, hope, smiles and peace to you. You are living every parent’s worst nightmare, and my heart hurts right now for you. God bless.

  • Pwchilcote

    Thanks for your grace-filled words about life as you and all of us together shrink before the mystery of death. I am so glad that I was able to participate in Christy’s funeral, experience such magnificent music, and experience the formative power of God’s word so caringly and compassionately explicated. Thanks be to God for Christy, God’s precious gift.

  • Mteston1

    Ben, as a Asbury Theological Seminary Grad (1986) and a dad with a 32 year old daughter named Christa, this was a big WOW. God bless you my friend. Just God bless you.

  • DuWAyne Lee

    Ben. I am 79 year old semi-retired Baptist pastor who a year ago last December lost a precious 55 year old daughter. She had been bed ridden for 27 years due to a rare muscle calcificaion disease. On November 28 2010 she suffered a cerebral hemmorage and passed away four days later. I am a Calvinist and find little difference between God causing something terrible to happen and allowing it happen. If I were an open theist I might find comfort but that too is a dead end street for me. Like you I am hanging on to Rom. 8:28 with my fingernails. If you have time please explain to me how you can find comfort in knowing that God Knew what was going to happent to your lovely daughter, could have done something to prevent it but chose not to do so. My heart along with yous is broken. DuWayne Lee

  • Jbrucecase

    I am so moved by your words of grace and love in the midst of such devastating circumstances. My heart continued to say “amen” after each of your statements. I am reminded of what William Sloan Coffin said of his child who died, and I paraphrase: “the first heart that broke when my son’s car ran off the road was God’s” In these difficult days, Ben, may you find community in your loneliness, comfort in your pain, hope in despair, and resurrection in death. I am praying for you, and standing with you, my brother.

  • Benw333

    Brother Lee if I could fully answer that I would be in heaven. As it is, I can say this— God allows many things to happen that he would not choose for us. This is because he programmed into the equation not just his will, but the ability of all human beings to make choices that are not predetermined. Could God have intervened and prevented the embolism— yes I believe he could have. But he also knew how many health issues Christy had, and how much she had been suffering. He also knew the eternal life he had planned for her. So perhaps his not intervening was an act of love—- now I do not know this. I really don’t, but it makes some sense.

  • Pmpope68

    Blessing to you and your family, Dr. Witherington.

  • Cherylannste

    May our LORD give you His great peace and may you and your family feel our Great God’s presence and love over each of you now and forever!

  • Bjheyboer

    Ben, I’m so very sorry for your loss. Thank you for sharing yourself and your grief. I found myself nodding in agreement as I read your post and saying aloud “amen and amen.” Be assured of my prayers. Your sister, BJ

  • Beth Ann Cook

    Thank you for being willing to share. I’m continuing to lift all of you in prayer. Blessings and peace,

  • http://www.peaceforthejourney.com/ elaine @ peace for the journey

    This is wonderfully comforting. There’s a popular thread running around in Christian circles (especially amongst women) that everything is from God’s hand… “all is grace.” I’ve had a difficult time being part of that club, and I’ve received a lot of criticism. As a cancer patient, I’ve had a lot of questions, but never “why me?”. Why not me? I am not immune from suffering, and I don’t believe that God is the source of my suffering. God is with me in my suffering and can use it all for his kingdom good and gain. Anyway, I hear you and so very much appreciate this insight.

    Blessings and peace to you as you walk these tremendous days of grief and mourning.

    ~elaine

  • Randy Jessen

    Dear Ben,

    It is indeed true, Romans 8:28 comes to life in the most difficult hours. Your sharing is a great blessing. Together we count on the goodness of God every day. May the Lord hold you close.

  • Benw333

    Thanks to all, and especially to you B.J. You have been a good friend for a long time. I sure do value my friends even more now.

  • Raynothstine

    Dr, Witherington,

    Bless you and all your family. Love and prayers. Thank you for your witness over all the years. Sometimes I get so weary of life and only Christ keeps me going. Even though I can’t imagine the pain you feel, the strength of your words really encourage me in my own struggles.

  • Earthymom2150

    Oh, may God bless and comfort you in this time of distress and loss. Your words are comforting to us — thank you. My condolences to you, your family, and anyone who knew your daughter.

  • Ruth Ann Wampler

    That was so beautiful. Why a tribute to our God. You are so right. God did not take your precious christy…….disease took her and God received her into his loving arms. Please check out the group The Compssionate Friends….a nation wide support group for prents that have lost children to death. It was the very salvation for my Christian parents. Being a cHristian does not protect us from heartache but it certainly helps because we have the promise that we will see them again.

  • Tom Guyton

    I had a sister who went home to be with the Lord at the age of 22. She had just been married a year and a month and had a son one month old. She graduated from Louisiana College and married her H.S. sweetheart. Seems God takes the best to be with him. It has been 48 years and I always remember that Jan. 8th night when the call came. The promise of eternity with God hit me square between the eyes. My life was changed forever! Praise God she trusted Jesus as her Savior and Lord!

  • http://twitter.com/GriefHelp Grief Help

    Dr. Ben, I am so sorry for your deep loss for both you and your wife. This piece is spot on concerning such an important topic. It is a question of life so many people have to deal with. What is God’s role in the loss of a loved one.

    With your permission I would like to link to this piece from my site at http://www.griefhelp.org.
    Be strong,
    Rich Nilsen
    Author of “The Road to Recovery”

  • Kathy Obrecht Shelly

    Ben,
    I was told about this blog entry because it might help me deal with the recent deaths of my brother and nephew. I had no idea about Christy until I read this! We helped with the youth Group at Trinity in Ashland while your family was there. (We were also in the Christian Friends Sunday School class). I remember Christy well. She was a such sweet girl and I’m so very, very sorry for your loss. Nothing could be worse than losing a child.
    I do want to let you know your words here helped me a lot. When people told me that my brother’s suicide and my nephew’s accidental overdose were “God’s will,” and He took them because He needed them…it just didn’t make sense to me. I agree with you that these things happen because we live in a fallen world.
    Thank you for your wisdom and please share my condolences with Ann.
    Blessings,
    Kathy Obrecht Shelly

  • Kidkurney

    Amazing xo Amazing Grace!

  • Paul

    Dr. Witherington,

    I’m so sorry. Blessings.

  • http://www.multisitechurch.wordpress.com/ toddh

    Grieving with you. So sorry for your loss.

  • Taylor

    Dr. Witherington,

    As an admirer of your work and as a fellow brother in Christ, I wish I could write something profound about grief and loss. But I cannot. I do not know what it is like to lose a child and so don’t know what to say. You mention Job and it brings to mind when his friends tried to “explain” his loss to him. I can’t help but think that they should have remained silent and simply been there for their grieving friend. Sometimes our words just won’t do. So all I can say is that my heart breaks for you and your family and that my prayers are with you. As you said, God’s Yes to life is louder than death’s No. My heart and prayers go out to and yours Dr. Witherington. Peace and blessings be with you.

  • Peggy Roberts

    Sorry for your loss. I lost my daughter n there is no pain like it. But God understands first hand this feeling of loss in giving His perfect son for sinners like us Praise Him from whom all blessings flow. There is a good book When the Bough Breaks that has in addition to the Bible, that have helped me. God bless you.

  • Paul Delashaw

    Ben,

    My deepest love and my earnest prayer for you in this time.

    Paul Delashaw (’97 Alum)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1368026444 Warren Lathem

    Ben,
    Jane and I just learned of the tragic death of your daughter. Please know we are praying for you and trusting God to bring you all the comfort and strength you and you wife and family need for this unwelcome journey of grief.

    You have unwillingly joined a group no one wants to be a part of: parents who have lost children through what we know is a premature death. I am not aware of any event in life which is more difficult. There certainly has not been anything in our life to rival this grief.

    When our son, Ray was killed in the ValuJet crash in 1996, almost everything changed in our lives. That Saturday night, after everyone had gone home and we were left alone in our room, a darkness descended such I had never known. It was truly the “dark night of the soul.” God was MIA. No light, no voice, no comfort. But, glory to God, about 5am the next morning, that precious still small voice which I had come to cherish began to speak to me again. And by the grace of Jesus, He began to help me move out of that place to a place of light and comfort and peace, and even joy. That did not happen quickly and did not happen without fits and starts, but IT DID HAPPEN.

    Your life is forever changed. You will mark time differently: before Christy’s death and after. Nothing will ever be quite the same, except for the love of your Savior. You will come to know that love in ways you have never known before.

    The promise you cling to, “God will work all things…” is reality in our lives. As you may recall, our son, Ray, was returning from a mission trip to Venezuela when he died. We are now in Venezuela where this year we will celebrate the 10th anniversary of the Seminario Wesleyano de Venezuela which came into being through this tragedy. We will attend the 5th annual conference of the United Methodist Church of Venezuela, also the result of God’s redeeming grace.

    However, none of that seemed possible on that dark night or the darkened days that followed. But God is faithful and loving and redeeming. This we know. (To see some reports of God’s great grace at work in Venezuela, go to http://www.venezuelaforchrist.blogspot.com)

    Again, our hearts break with you. We lift you up to the Lord of Mercy today and will do so in the days to come. Just remember, “We sorrow not as those who have no hope.” Our hope is sure.

    Your friend and fellow traveler,
    Warren Lathem

  • Benw333

    If this helps the Grief Help cause, by all means take it. There are eight more posts to follow. Ben

  • Sondra Jones

    Ben, I am a pastor from NGA. Know that much love and many prayers are for you and your family. Your words are at the heart of hopeful healing. I agree with you completely. The Holy Spirit shines in your courage and you show such God-breathed wisdom about love, loss and grief. God’s love enfolds you and may the love of friends and family be of great comfort in these difficult days.

  • Matt Walsh

    Dear Dr. Witherington,

    We grieve with you, and we thank you for your servant’s heart, even in the midst of this tragedy. Thank you for your heart-felt and insightful reflections. May the Holy Spirit give you strength, hope, and peace in the days to come.

  • June Suddreth

    This is an awesome blog as someone who has witnessed the grief of their friends in these past few months. I choose to believe in a merciful God who wants only the best for us and who promises us He will never forsake us, and I know the sickness that takes us away is because we are in a fallen state not a God and Father who loves us. Thank you Ben Witherington and in your time of grief may God give you peace.

  • John Inglis

    It is a blessing that God has given you a sufficiently strong faith, and wisdom, that you can write what does us good in your time of grief and weeping. In this life she will be sorely missed, though it is wonderful that in the next grief will end with reunion. I pray that God continue to strengthen you and abide with you.
    John

  • http://www.kingdomseeking.wordpress.com/ K. Rex Butts

    First off, I am sorry for your loss.

    I also want to say a big “Amen” to what you have written. As one who has also said goodbye to a child, I know it’s not always easy to see the goodness of God amidst such circumstances. But thanks be to God that the light does always shine forth.

  • http://www.kingdomseeking.wordpress.com/ K. Rex Butts

    First off, I am sorry for your loss.

    I also want to say a big “Amen” to what you have written. As one who has also said goodbye to a child, I know it’s not always easy to see the goodness of God amidst such circumstances. But thanks be to God that the light does always shine forth.

  • http://www.kingdomseeking.wordpress.com/ K. Rex Butts

    First off, I am sorry for your loss.

    I also want to say a big “Amen” to what you have written. As one who has also said goodbye to a child, I know it’s not always easy to see the goodness of God amidst such circumstances. But thanks be to God that the light does always shine forth.

  • http://www.kingdomseeking.wordpress.com/ K. Rex Butts

    First off, I am sorry for your loss.

    I also want to say a big “Amen” to what you have written. As one who has also said goodbye to a child, I know it’s not always easy to see the goodness of God amidst such circumstances. But thanks be to God that the light does always shine forth.

  • Teachtruck2

    Ben: So sorry to hear about your loss and our prayers and thoughts are with you and your family. Sincerely, Steve and Terri Glass

  • Steve Glass

    Ben: So sorry to hear about your loss and our prayers and thoughts are with you and your family. Sincerely, Steve and Terri Glass

  • Gbk1998

    I know one thing…it was not God’s will. If God is good (and He is) then nothing that causes pain ‘is His Will’. Long ago I adopted an outlook which I keep telling myself, ‘We belong to God’s World, but we live in Man’s World. We have no magic umbrella which will protect us but we have prayer and the fellowship of believers to comfort us.’ Peace.

  • http://www.stephenelrod.blogspot.com/ Judy Elrod

    Dr. Witherington, your link was sent to me from a friend. Our 24-yr old son was tragically killed in 2009 when on his way to work one morning, a heavy fog shrouded him and a tractor trailer pulled into his path. It has been a difficult road for us and especially for his younger brother. He went through a dark depression period and was very destructive to himself. We feel very fortunate that he is still with us. After many months of prayer and counseling, he has turned the corner and is doing much better. In addition to burying our first-born son, our second son died as an infant. I miss our sons very much and long for the day that I see them again. I can’t say that my faith was a mature and deep one, but I try to look at their death in the following way. “If God came to you and said He had a gift for you, but you could only keep it for a short period of time (say for 24 years), and then you would have to give it back to God, would you still want it?” Were we blessed tremendously for those 24 years with our son Stephen? Absolutely yes!!!! Can I imagine my life without him during that period? Absolutely not!!! The fact is he was a gift from God and brought us so much joy, and we’re not guaranteed tomorrow. That doesn’t take the pain away, but we will see him again. God bless you and your family during this time.

  • Rev. Patience Brumley

    Thank you for your transparency in the midst of your deep grief and for your words that mean so much to others, like myself, who have lost a child. May God hold you and your family close as you cherish the memories of your beautiful daughter.

  • Amy

    It is one thing to say “God is good” when things go well for us but to say “God is good” in our suffering truly honors His name. Praying for you in your grief.

  • DuWAyne Lee

    Dear Dr. Ben. Here are some brief remarks that I shared with our people at my daughter Sandi’s Memorial Day service

    I would like to share with you a story that I related to my family in recent days. The late pastor, Dr. John Claypool, suffered the loss of his ten year old daughter, Laura Lue, to the dread disease of Leukemia. Four weeks after her funeral he told this story to his congregation.
    “When World War II started, my family did not have a washing machine. With gas rationed and the laundry several miles away, keeping our clothes clean became an intensely practical problem. One of my father’s younger business associates was drafted, and his wife prepared to go with him, and we offered to let them store their furniture in our basement. Quite unexpectedly, they suggested that we use their washing machine while they were gone. ‘It would be better for it to be running,’ they said, ‘than sitting up rusting.’ So this is what we did, and it helped us a great deal.
    “Since I used to help with the washing, across the years I developed quite an affectionate relation for that old green Bendix. But eventually the war ended, and our friends returned, and in the meantime I had forgotten how the machine had come to be in our basement in the first place. When they came and took it, I was terribly upset and I said so quite openly.
    “But my mother, being the wise woman she is, sat me down and put things in perspective for me. She said, ‘Wait a minute, son. You must remember that machine never belonged to us in the first place. That we ever got to use it at all was a gift. So, instead of being mad at its being taken away, let’s use this occasion to be grateful we had it at all.’
    “And then Dr. Claypool added, Laura Lue was a gift, pure and simple, something I neither earned nor deserved or had a right to. And when I remember that the appropriate response to a gift, even when it is taken away, is gratitude, then I am better able to try and thank God that I was ever given her in the first place.”
    Our beloved Sandi was on loan to us from God for 55 years and we will forever be grateful. A broken hearted Job said it beautifully, “The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away. Blessed be the name of the Lord.”

    DuWayne Lee

  • Sstadler

    Very true and insighful. When my dad died after a 51 day bout with gastric cancer it was amazing how many people either ignored that he had died (for lack of what to say) or they said something offensive without realizing it.

  • sstadler

    Very true and insighful. When my dad died after a 51 day bout with gastric cancer it was amazing how many people either ignored that he had died (for lack of what to say or they felt uncomfortable) or they said something offensive without realizing it.

  • CB

    Sorry to hear about you loss. I enjoyed reading your analogy of God’s good. I lost a parent when I was seven and remember fusing with Him. By the age of nine, God was my best confidant. I see many good memories that bring me joy. One day you’ll feel the same because you said, God would “do no harm.

  • Robert Glass

    Mr. Witherington-
    I met you only once (I am Elizabeth Glass Turner’s [Bitty] father) and I saw this post. I am so very sorry for your loss. Please be assured that there are many, many prayers to God to ease your grief, soothe your heartache and give you the strength to carry on your mission until you meet your daughter again.

  • http://twitter.com/emeoliv Emerson de Oliveira

    Dear mr. Whiterington, my condolences and my prayers. From Brazil.

  • cas

    Dr. Witherington, First, my deepest condolences on the death of your beautiful daughter. Second, I’m grateful that you are willing to tackle the theological questions that her sudden death raises. My son died by suicide at age 23 in 2008. Now, of course suicide and pulmonary embolisms are very different kinds of deaths, but if psychiatrists are to be believed, suicide is a fatal outcome of (often untreated) depression, so perhaps they are not entirely dissimilar.

    I’ve heard thoughts from well-meaning loved ones like those you express in this post. They have suggested that perhaps God allowed my son’s suicide to spare him from a worse fate in this world. Like you I’m not a Calvinist, but like Rev. Lee, I don’t find much difference in God caused v. God allowed. Even if Satan was the author of Job’s suffering, God created Satan and sanctioned what seems like a terribly cruel game. The thinking seems circular.

    I find no solace at all in the idea that it was somehow an act of mercy for God to allow the suicide. That points to an impotent God, in my opinion, one who endorses horror instead of healing. I can, however, accept that it is a broken world, and have long believed that if I could merrily go along my way believing in God while genocide and starvation occur, I had better be willing to keep faith when tragedy befalls me. And I have kept faith, even though I feel a deep sense of betrayal that God allowed my son to die such a death. I think dealing with that will be my work of faith for a very long time, even as I know and enjoy God’s comfort, if that makes sense.

    I hope you will keep grappling with these issues here as you are able.

  • Susan N.

    Dr. Witherington, my heart goes out to you. May God’s healing grace continue to be a balm for your grieving heart. Your faith is an inspiration. Thank you for sharing this very personal story. ~A friend from the Jesus Creed blog.

  • Scott S.

    Dr. Witherington,

    I am so sorry of your loss. You, your family and friends are in my prayers. This post truly blessed me, and I am grateful for your speaking out of such great loss, so that the memory of your daughter is honored and our good God is glorified.

    May the peace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you and yours.

    Scott S.

  • http://trinitariantheodicy.wordpress.com/ Trin

    Dr. Witherington -
    Condolences to you and your family on your loss. I am so very sorry.
    With your permission, I would like to post this on my theodicy blog.
    May the only Good God surround you all with the indescribable peace only his very presence can bring.

  • Alastair Blake Peters

    I have nothing to say, but wish i could sit beside ya.

  • Benw333

    All those who want to repost this are welcome to do so.

  • A sister

    OK so he doesn’t do it. But why does he allow it to happen?

    I have been asking the same question for the past year and a half since my baby brother died. Is there a coherent answer? Is there an answer that will take the pain away?

  • Benw333

    I think there is a series of coherent answers, but that doesn’t mean it will take away the pain. The answer is threefold and it is complicated. In a sense it is the same question if we were to ask why Jesus, when he was on earth, didn’t heal everybody he came even remotely close to, that was in dire need. The answer is that that was not his main mission in life, and however long we may live in these bodies it is not God’s plan to prop up this body forever. Everlasting life, not life in this body was the main focus and concern of Jesus, and it should be ours as well. Why particular persons don’t get a temporary healing or rescue is of course a mystery but I am talking big picture here. The second part of the answer is that God has structured the universe such that we not only have free choices, God also often allows us to have the consequences of our actions. If God intervened in every dire situation it would quickly become clear that we are all living a charade, and that our choices for good or ill do not in any way matter, since God, on this theory would always play his trump card. The easier part of the answer is that we live in a fallen world full of disease, decay, and death, and in such a place, God’s main goal is to get us saved so we can have everlasting life both in heaven and in the new creation through resurrection when Jesus returns. These answers of course will not lessen the shock or the pain of the heart, but they may help the head understand a bit better.

  • kinnaret

    Dear Mr. Lee:
    Yours is one of the best remarks in here. You nailed it on the head: God allowing something to happen is = to causing it. So many of us are in the same boat as you. It’s difficult to know whether to even bother praying since it’s so random as to whether our petitions will be answered.

  • Diana Trautwein

    I came here from Jesus Creed and I think I may stay around a while. This writing, this thinking – especially at a time such as this, laden with so many layers of sadness and loss – is just wonderfully rich and encouraging. I have wrestled so hard with much of what you have cited, both biblically and experientially. And I arrive at the same place you find yourself: God is in the trenches with us, not powerless (as the Calvinists insist is the only ‘logical’ recourse to denial of God willing such things) but weeping with us at the horrific nature of the spillover of death that permeates our world. And I do believe, and have witnessed, that God does indeed work things together for good, that God is always in the business of redemption. But I must also say to you that the hard, real truth is this: no amount of good can ever, this side of heaven, compensate for the loss of your girl. There is no existential scale that can possibly ‘balance out’ the reality of this death – nor any death, or any severely limiting illness or other horror of life on planet earth. Except, of course, for that Other Death – and the Resurrection which followed it. In that, I place my hope and my trust, forever grateful for the Incarnate One who knows our sorrow.

  • LaBarbara

    Amen brother!! God is good no matter what happens to us on this earth. We are all fallen and we all deserve eternal death. Thank God for providing eternal life for those who desire it. There is a real devil roaming this earth, seeking whom he may devour. I lost my brother and mother by age 15 and a husband and child by age 22. My husband has just had surgery for colon cancer. Heaven is not on this earth, but we all get a little taste of it through Jesus. Suffering makes heaven seem all the better–no suffering there. Hang on to Jesus. You might like the book, “Raising the Dead” written by a fellow sufferer.

  • Mike Sayyad

    Dear Ben,

    On behalf of myself and everyone at Priority Travel & Tours, please accept our deepest condolences on the loss of your beautiful daughter. The words you share here are very meaningful and honest. May God continue to give you the comfort and strength to have “good grief” which you so eloquently describe. You and your family are in our thoughts and prayers.

    Mike Sayyad, Jesse Booth, Monica Froehlich & Kathy Howell

  • Coach

    Fantastic post.
    My heart weeps for you.
    My God is the same God of whom you write.
    Hope, though dimly lit, is Hope just the same.
    Bless you.

  • Coach

    Fantastic post.
    My heart weeps for you.
    My God is the same God of whom you write.
    Hope, though dimly lit, is Hope just the same.
    Bless you.

  • Mlkehoe

    Thank you for this sharing. I will help others.

  • Mlkehoe

    Thank you for this sharing. I will help others.

  • Laurie

    I also lost my only child suddenly two months ago today. She was I miss her so much but if she can’t be with me – what better place than with Him? I’m so sorry for your loss. I understand what you are going through. Thank you for your insight – I found it comforting as I endure the grief.

  • Catherinah

    Dear Mr Lee and Kinnaret, I can not agree with you. God did not make us puppets so he can just pull the strings. He gave us a free will so that we can love Him back or not. He provided for our salvation and gives it to us as a free gift which we can accept or not. We can believe His Gospel or we can choose not to. The murderer chooses to murder – it is not God making him do it. The sinners’ sins they commit themselves – God does not sin – He hates sin! Read Romans 1 again. Kinnaret, try read your Bible from Genesis to Revelation and ask God to reveal himself to you. God bless you.

  • joey

    I’ve been through some pain in my life. Some forms of suffering can be talked about openly. Others can’t because of the stigma associated with them.
    So, am I hearing that the suffering I’ve been through is meaningless, random chance, just as likely to have occurred as not, that God “allowed”?!
    To hell with that. Tell me there is purpose to my suffering and I can deal with that (and I mean more than James 1). But tell me it’s meaningless chance?! That’s unacceptable.

  • Benw333

    Hi Joey: No one is suggesting it’s meaningless, or even random chance. The alternative to such a view need not be ‘God predestined it all before the foundation of the world’. Any Christian should believe what Romans 8.28 says regardless of whether they understand why this happened to them. But since God is not the author of sin, evil, or pointless non-martyrological non-punitive suffering such as my Christy went through, more thought needs to be given to what the meaning of such suffering is, and how God can use it for good.

  • Thegoodtale

    A gift for you from the wilderness… I invite you to hear the true word from God now delivered at the heel of time Gen 3:15.
    Satan has deceived the whole world Rev 12:9 until a woman delivers the true word to the world Rev 12:5, Rev 12:13 from the wilderness Rev 12:6. The true word proves by the word of God that not one child of God will be put in a hell fire no matter what their sins. It never entered the heart or mind of God to ever do such a thing Jer 7:31, Jer 19:5.
    http://thegoodtale.blogspot.com/2012/01/power-of-god.html

  • Christina Smerick

    Ben, I am so so very sorry. Please know that you and your family are in our prayers. You are right: God is love, and God weeps with you.

  • joey

    Dr. Witherington: Thank you for your response. I am no scholar, but I assume you are referring to Calvinistic predestination. I, too, find such doctrine offensive. However, I take issue with your use of the words “pointless” and “non-martyrological” (suffering not in the form of persecution?). When the Father explicitly says that he is the one who makes man “mute, or deaf, or seeing, or blind (or cancerous? or diabetic? etc)” (Ex 4), I take it that he is saying that he IS the author of “non-martyrological” suffering. And when Jesus says that the man was born blind “THAT (purpose) the works of God might be displayed in him,” I don’t think that it was Satan or Random Chance who PURPOSED the blindness of the man or the resulting glory of the Father.
    Then when I read Paul in Philippians 3 saying that he wants to “know” (experientially) the sufferings of Christ SO THAT he might share in his glorification – that is, he wants to suffer FIRST so THAT he can share in his glory BECAUSE THAT IS THE CHRIST-ESTABLISHED PATTERN – when I read that, I wonder to myself, “What is a non-persecuted, North American believer to do?!” If Paul says that the established pattern is that suffering precedes glorification, and if he has only suffering in the form of persecution in mind, I am in trouble; I’m not following the established pattern. This pattern was also referred to by Jesus when he with outstretched hands, showing the nail holes said, “As (in the same manner) the Father sent me into the world, even so now I send you into the world.” If Jesus, here, also only had suffering in the form of persecution in mind, then I am not being sent in the same manner as he was sent. I’m not persecuted! Should I move to Iran and start proclaiming Jesus so that I can be persecuted?!
    HOWEVER, if Jesus and Paul had in mind suffering in all its forms – not just persecution – of a forgiven, redeemed believer then I AM following the established pattern, as the Father has enabled me. I am suffering even though I have been forgiven. I am suffering even though the Father has promised me something else. I am suffering because he has asked me to do so in his name. That I can live with. And I can live with the knowledge that the scriptures explicitly say that God is the author of such suffering. Pointless? Non-martyrological? Hardly.

  • Benw333

    Hi Joey: The problem is, you can’t take such statements as those in Exodus 4 at face value because God’s truth is only gradually revealed, and as Hebrews 1 says before Christ came that truth was partial and piecemeal. It is interesting to see the dramatic difference between say Samuel/Kings and Chronicles where the former says God did X, but the latter clarifies and says no it was Satan. The basic point is that God’s people only gradually realized that there are viable secondary causes in the universe that are not God’s actions. This took time. My point is that you need to start with Christ and what the NT says about suffering and its sources, not with the OT. You need to read what the OT says in light of the further and clearer revelation in the NT. When you do, you will not come to the conclusions you have about suffering.

  • joey

    So because 1 Chronicles 21:1 comes canonically later than 2 Sam 24:1 and Exodus 4, we can take it as it sits but we can’t take the latter as they sit? It couldn’t be that Satan was following God’s instructions so that both Samuel and Chronicles are correct and do not have to be construed as contradicting?
    I agree that the Lord Jesus is the complete revelation of God. Likewise, the New Testament is a more extensive, though not exhaustive, revelation than the Older Testament. However, the view of suffering and the roles of God and Satan are consistent between the two, and certainly aren’t contradictory. Again, I refer to Jesus’s New Testament comments concerning the blind man. Satan would not choose to do anything for the purpose of displaying the works of God. And Jesus said that the man’s blindness was purposed.
    Then there’s 2 Corinthians 12. Paul says that that he’d been given his thorn (I’m sure you know what has been speculated as to what the thorn was – probably some physical limitation) “…to keep me from being too elated.” He goes on to say that it was a “messenger of Satan” who gave it to him. So are we to believe that Satan initiated this; that Satan didn’t want him to get too big-headed; that Satan wanted Paul to be better equipped for the kingdom? No. God sent Satan to do what he wanted him to do – in order to make Paul a more effective teacher.
    Read Hays’ “Echoes of Scripture” (you’ve probably already read it), pages 57-63. Paul echoes the Servant texts all over the place and applies them to us! People need to know that the suffering they are enduring (in all its forms), as believers, is redemptive, and is in the manner after their King. They are truly living in the image of Jesus. Their suffering has a God-orchestrated purpose!

  • Benw333

    Hi Joey: Richard Hays is a good friend of mine, and frankly he would not agree with your reading of his book. He does not think that our suffering is somehow redemptive— that has to do with the finished work of Christ on the cross. But let’s talk about John 11 for a minute. Jesus certainly does not say in the Greek that God blinded the man….. he says that God will use his healing to display his glory! A big difference. Blessings, Ben

  • joey

    John 9 does not say “that God will USE his healing to display his glory.” The text SAYS the man was born blind, “…SO THAT (as you know, what scholars call a ‘hina’ clause, denoting purpose)…”
    So I misread Hays? I misread when he said, “Those who have ears to hear will hear and understand that the people of God, reckoned as sheep to be slaughtered, are suffering with Christ and thus living out the vocation prophesied for them according (to) the Scriptures. Upon them is the chastisement that makes others whole, and with their stripes is creation healed.”? (pg 63, Echoes of Scripture in the Letters of Paul)
    Moving on. I am truly sorry your daughter has died. I, too, have daughters, one of whom sustained a severe head injury last summer, requiring a craniotomy. We still have our daughter with us. May God comfort you in your separation from your beloved daughter, and may your reunion bring you joy beyond your current imagining. – joey

  • Benw333

    Joey there is a difference between a purpose and a result clause in Greek. John 11 can and should be read not as a purpose clause (God made him blind so that….) but as a result clause ‘the man is blind with the result that God will use his condition to reveal his glory’. We have a result clause in John 11 not a purpose clause. And yes, you did misread Richard. Richard is talking about martyrological suffering of the saints for their Christian witness, he is not, for example talking about suffering that happens from a car accident. Blessings, Ben

  • Bill Hughes

    For you Dr. Witherington, family, and friends.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3aWDTmblpE

  • Michaelpaultamilio

    Interesting that you find Mr. Lee’s remarks to be the best, but find yourself without a good reason to pray, that is very sad for me to think about, the most intimate and passionate relationship is to be found in the loving arms of God in Christ, in prayer, with faith and hope that God will indeed answer, and that they do indeed affect the way things turn out. Why was Peter released from prison? Prayer. Why was Hezekiah given 15 more years to live? Prayer. Please pray, random is a bad word, the only reason God answer to a prayer may be no, is because He has something better. I did not say less painful.
    God bless you and much love too…

  • Donna Stockin

    Joseph Bayly’s A View From the Hearse helped me a lot. He lost THREE children! Also, Thrice Through the Valley by V. Steel who lost three children and her husband is well.

  • Prchrmom

    The immediate context of this passage is the proclamation to Cyrus of the God of Israel’s ultimate power and authority, and what Cyrus’ role is to be in the restoration of Israel. I think it’s meaning is that all things are under God, in this world that is God’s creation. I agree that we can’t go from there to “God CHOSE that this illness, or disaster, or whatever would happen to this person or nation, but if we hold to God’s omnipotence and omniscience, then God does know, and God knows also that in the act of creating, the things that follow are the result of that first act. I want to live in a world where we have choice, free will and personal responsibility, and I believe that some of the terrible things that happen aren’t due to anything we did, nor are they the consequence of God “punishing” or “testing” us. This is about the sovereignty of God.