“All . . . untrue, . . . tales . . . lies”

 

You DARE to report a problem? You LIE!

 

I’m told that Senator Harry Reid has good qualities.  I don’t doubt it.  I’ve always resisted the tendency of some of his critics to demonize him.

 

Unfortunately, he seems disinclined to return that favor to those who disagree with his views:

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/harry-reid-denies-all-obamacare-horror-stories-all-are-untrue_783449.html

 

It’s virtually inconceivable that any large federal program, even the best, is ever totally free of at least inadvertent “collateral damage.”  Senator Reid’s insistence that absolutely all such stories connected with Obamacare — a massive new program, the rollout of which has not been, shall we say, entirely flawless — are absolutely false strikes me as no more plausible than the late Mr. Saddam Hussein’s claim, following his last campaign for the presidency of Iraq (he won, by the way), that he had received fully 100% of the votes cast.

 

It struck me as somewhat doubtful that, among the many millions of Iraqis, there wasn’t even a single voter so dimwitted, insane, and/or morally perverse as to not recognize the unalloyed wonders of Mr. Hussein’s rule.

 

It likewise strikes me as implausible that not a single American’s healthcare choices or costs, anywhere, have been adversely affected by Obamacare.

 

I hope that all of those who have been negatively impacted by the Affordable Healthcare Act will absolutely roar their stories.  Publicly.  How many ordinary American citizens is Senator Reid willing to dismiss as liars?  Let’s find out.

 

 

  • Mark Grammer

    No takers? I guess Harry was right on this one. Sorry!

    • DanielPeterson

      I didn’t mean, of course, that the roar need be here on my blog. But I want Senator Reid to hear it.

  • Brock Lesnar

    Dan wrote: “I hope that all of those who have been negatively impacted by the Affordable Healthcare Act will absolutely roar their stories. Publicly.”

    I don’t know (and am very skeptical) about all the people who have had their lives destroyed by the AHA, but here’s a positive story about the millions who have benefited from it:

    http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts/blog/2014/02/marketplace-enrollment-hits-4-million.html

    ROAR!!!!!! :)

    • Nathair /|

      And of course, if it’s on a government website, it must be true.

      • Mike Parker

        “…a government website that stands to benefit from a positive public perception of its existence and performance….”

        There, I fixed it.

        • Brock Lesnar

          It’s strange but Fox News, Hannity and many, many other conservatives are reporting the exact same numbers.
          How bizarre! ;)

          • DanielPeterson

            What, exactly, is strange about that?

    • Darren

      What stories are you skeptical about?

    • mike

      Brock, with all due respect I think you need to get out more. Perhaps it is because of my profession, but I hear very real complaints about Obamacare on an almost daily basis.

  • Mike Parker

    Dear Mr. Reid,

    I am one of the Americans in what has become known as the “coverage gap”: I make too much to qualify for Medicaid, but yet I also make too much to qualify for meaningful healthcare subsidies.

    After paying my mortgage and other bills, buying food and fuel, and spending very little else, I have no money left at the end of the month. None. In fact, quite often I’ve found myself having to dip into my IRA just to make ends meet.

    The cheapest Obamacare plan for which I could qualify to insure my family would cost $600 a month (that’s $7,200 a year) and have a $12,000 annual deductible, which means I would be paying for insurance that I would likely never use. I can’t afford that. Even the modest subsidies so gracioiusly offered to me on the HealthCare.gov web site wouldn’t make a significant dent in that amount.

    Mr. Reid, I don’t have $600 a month to spend. But because I don’t, I’m now going to be hit with a $400 tax…er, penalty for not being able to afford health insurance.

    May I humbly suggest that you re-read the classic book “Catch-22″ and then consider what laws like the “Affordable” “Health Care” Act are doing to ordinary people like me.

  • Darren

    “How many ordinary American citizens is Senator Reid willing to dismiss as liars?”

    That would be all of them. But I’ve dismissed Harry Reid as a liar several years ago.

  • mike

    Where to begin. I have individual clients who have been laid off and who have had their hours cut by employers who cannot financially absorb the costs mandated by Obamacare. I have a client who I met with last month who is a small business owner who employs about 150 workers. He recently met with his insurance rep for his company health plan and was informed that this summer the insurance company would be terminating the company plan. This client said he would likely cease providing healthcare to his employees. The company could not bear the steep costs. On the personal front, our family has health coverage through my wife’s employer. It is a really good plan. She received a letter from her employer at Christmas indicating that her health plan would be either altered or dropped. This is terrible news because she is fearful of losing her doctor, who has been treating her for a challenging health issue that she is facing. The stress that this has created, to say nothing of the potential costs involved, is extremely unsettling. I cannot describe how frustrated I am to see our government get between me, my doctor, and my healthcare. Likewise for my clients who have faced similar frustrations, in addition to their experiencing adverse employment conditions. To the president I would love to say (through gritted teeth), “butt out of my life and leave us alone.”

  • Nancy Roper Hymas

    There’s an extensive line-up of stories about people who have been adversely affected by Obamacare at Power Line Blog. Read the whole thing.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/02/harry-reid-goes-around-the-bend-on-obamacare.php

    • DanielPeterson

      Liars. All of them.

  • Nancy Roper Hymas

    There’s an extensive line-up of stories about people who have been adversely affected by Obamacare at Power Line Blog. I hope Harry Reid reads the whole thing.
    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/02/harry-reid-goes-around-the-bend-on-obamacare.php

  • Ryan

    In other news, there are no gay people in Iran, and Kim Jong had 18 straight holes-in-one.

    Welcome to the new America.

  • Ben Zeeman

    I have no problem demonizing the man. I think he is wretched.

    A good friend of mine served in the DC mission. One Sunday he was visiting a ward in the stake. Mr. Reid happened to be attending there that day as well as the stake president.
    Mr. Reid attempted to take his “rightful place” on the stand with the leadership, and was then quickly dismissed by the Stake President. I wouldn’t believe it if it weren’t from the mouth of my friend who was eye witness to it. How shameful, yet how telling.

    • DanielPeterson

      That story may well be true. I don’t know.

      But I’ve heard some very positive things about him as a Church member from people very much in a position to know.

      And I say that as somebody who disagrees with him on virtually every political issue.

    • Darren

      In case you’re criticizing thr stake president’s dismissal, I do not criticize Reid as a member of the Church only his politics. Now, why would Reid sit up front? It sounds like he was attending a ward not his own. If Reid was going up front because of his being a nationl leader than should that not have been discussed and decided on beforehand?

      • DanielPeterson

        I’m not criticizing the stake president’s dismissal. I know nothing about it beyond what I’ve read here.

        Incidentally, I was in the Hyde Park Chapel in London last July, for sacrament meeting. When I came in, I was surprised to see Utah Gov. Gary Herbert seated on the stand. He was in England with a trade delegation; I have absolutely no idea what discussions, if any, preceded his sitting on the stand.

        (He and his entourage joined our tour of LDS historical sites in London that day, by the way.)

        • Darren

          To be sure, I was replying to Ben Zeeman but I do appreciate your reply. I particularly enjoyed your short account of your experience in seeing the Utah governor seated up front in England. It doesn’t bother me a bit to invite governors or any other political leader to the stands but the way in which Ben Zeeman portrayed Reid’s dismissal by a stake president seems as though Reid took it upon himself to “auto-ubicate” (you like that on the spot word invention? :) ) up front. If Reid did so, I’m confused as to why. If he was supposed to be seated up front than that seems to be something agreed upon beforehand or to at least wait in the general audience until a presiding leader publicly invites Reid or any other distinguished guest to sit up front

  • Steven Barton

    “It likewise strikes me as implausible that not a single American’s healthcare choices or costs, anywhere, have been adversely affected by Obamacare.”

    Of course, younger people are being shifted to more comprehensive, and necessarily, more expensive plans, whereas older people and poorer people are seeing real savings with Obamacare. So there are very real stories, both good and bad that could be told, even “roared.” But Reid was speaking about the stories that are “being told.” In his view, THOSE stories are false and misleading.

  • Phil

    It seems that when Harry Reid said “they were all lies” he was referring to the “horror stories” from advertisements. In which case he might be more right than not and the outrage voiced regarding *Reid’s statement* misplaced.

    Here is Reid’s statement: “All of them are untrue. But they’re being told all over America,” said Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., during a floor speech, criticizing the Koch brothers for what he considers false attacks.

    See, he appears to be criticizing the advertisements “them”, not the broader criticisms or outrage of the ACA.

    Here’s an example of a false advertisement criticizing the ACA:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2014/02/20/a-hard-hitting-anti-obamacare-ad-makes-a-claim-that-doesnt-add-up/

    Here’s a broader story about the issue of “horror story” ads and the democrat’s response.

    http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/democrats-obamacare-horror-stories-will-be-disproven/

  • Don Ormsby

    Mr.Reid lost my respect with his baseless comments on the tax status of Mitt Romney. Up to that point, I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Adding up all the slanderous statements and inaccuracies (Read: Lies?) by Mr. Reid, I’m afraid I could not trust or support him in any way. As touching him as a human being, I have concern and love for him. In every other way, there is hope for repentance.

    • Darren

      It does turn out that there was someone, John Huntsman’s father, who did tell Harry Reid of Mitt’s foreign investments and that they may seem a bit fishy on the legal end. However, Harry Reid was quite clear in his deliberate portrayal of Millionaire Mitt breaking federal laws just to keep his own money from the government. I wonder why Huntsman would even begin to trust Harry Reid with such information. Especially in an election year.

  • Sharee

    My sister-in-law, who had a complete hysterectomy a few years back and couldn’t get pregnant no matter how hard she tried, now, under ObamaCare, has maternity coverage.

    • DanielPeterson

      What wonderful news!

      • Sharee

        Yeah, ain’t ObamaCare great?


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