Ted Cruz’ Father Is a Rabid Right-Wing Preacher– What More do You Need to Know About the “Why” of the Shutdown?

 

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (center) raises the hand of his father, Rafael Cruz (right).

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz (center) raises the hand of his right wing preacher father, Rafael Cruz (right).

It’s no coincidence that in my new book And God Said, “Billy!”  that I have my character “Billy” masturbating while he listens to his godly wife read out loud from a book by the guru of all evangelical Dominionist/Reconstructionists– Rousas Rushdoony. The evangelical world has been metaphorically jacking off to the Rushdoony/Ted Cruz/Koch brothers’ political God-hates-everybody-but-us-chosen-few porn for over forty years. Now with the government shutdown they have finally achieved political orgasm.

Ted Cruz father has called President Obama out for “siding with Muslims” and claimed heath care reform would lead to death panels.  Chris Hedges writing in Truthdig, explores the connection between the religious right, the Dominionist/Reconstructionists and the Tea Party that’s brought us the shutdown. He writes: “There is a desire felt by tens of millions of Americans, lumped into a diffuse and fractious movement known as the Christian right, to… radically diminish the role of government to create a theocratic state based on ‘biblical law’… Its public face is on display in the House of Representatives.”

Hedges continues:

This ideology, which is the driving force behind the shutdown of the government, calls for the eradication of social “deviants,” beginning with gay men and lesbians, whose sexual orientation, those in the movement say, is a curse and an illness, contaminating the American family and the country. Once these “deviants” are removed, other “deviants,” including Muslims, liberals, feminists, intellectuals, left-wing activists, undocumented workers, poor African-Americans and those dismissed as “nominal Christians” — meaning Christians who do not embrace this peculiar interpretation of the Bible — will also be ruthlessly repressed.

The “deviant” government bureaucrats, the “deviant” media, the “deviant” schools and the “deviant” churches, all agents of Satan, will be crushed or radically reformed. The rights of these “deviants” will be annulled. “Christian values” and “family values” will, in the new state, be propagated by all institutions. Education and social welfare will be handed over to the church. Facts and self-criticism will be replaced with relentless indoctrination.

U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz—whose father is Rafael Cruz, a rabid right-wing Christian preacher and the director of the Purifying Fire International ministry—and legions of the senator’s wealthy supporters, some of whom orchestrated the shutdown, are rooted in a radical Christian ideology known as Dominionism or Christian Reconstructionism. This ideology calls on anointed “Christian” leaders to take over the state and make the goals and laws of the nation “biblical.” It seeks to reduce government to organizing little more than defense, internal security and the protection of property rights. It fuses with the Christian religion the iconography and language of American imperialism and nationalism, along with the cruelest aspects of corporate capitalism.

The intellectual and moral hollowness of the ideology, its flagrant distortion and misuse of the Bible, the contradictions that abound within it — its leaders champion small government and a large military, as if the military is not part of government — and its laughable pseudoscience are impervious to reason and fact. And that is why the movement is dangerous.

The cult of masculinity, as in all fascist movements, pervades the ideology of the Christian right. The movement uses religion to sanctify military and heroic “virtues,” glorify blind obedience and order over reason and conscience, and pander to the euphoria of collective emotions. Feminism and homosexuality, believers are told, have rendered the American male physically and spiritually impotent. Jesus, for the Christian right, is a man of action, casting out demons, battling the Antichrist, attacking hypocrites and ultimately slaying nonbelievers.

This cult of masculinity, with its glorification of violence, is appealing to the powerless. It stokes the anger of many Americans, mostly white and economically disadvantaged, and encourages them to lash back at those who, they are told, seek to destroy them. The paranoia about the outside world is fostered by bizarre conspiracy theories, many of which are prominent in the rhetoric of those leading the government shutdown. Believers, especially now, are called to a perpetual state of war with the “secular humanist” state. The march, they believe, is irreversible. Global war, even nuclear war, is the joyful harbinger of the Second Coming. And leading the avenging armies is an angry, violent Messiah who dooms billions of apostates to death.

Dominionists believe they are engaged in an epic battle against the forces of Satan. They live in a binary world of black and white. They feel they are victims, surrounded by sinister groups bent on their destruction. They have anointed themselves as agents of God who alone know God’s will. They sanctify their rage. This rage lies at the center of the ideology.

It leaves them sputtering inanities about Barack Obama, his corporate-sponsored health care reform bill, his alleged mandated suicide counseling or “death panels” for seniors under the bill, his supposed secret alliance with radical Muslims, and “creeping socialism.” They see the government bureaucracy as being controlled by “secular humanists” who want to destroy the family and make war against the purity of their belief system. They seek total cultural and political domination.

All ideological, theological and political debates with the radical Christian right are useless. It cares nothing for rational thought and discussion. Its adherents are using the space within the open society to destroy the open society itself. Our naive attempts to placate a movement bent on our destruction, to prove to it that we too have “values,” only strengthen its supposed legitimacy and increase our own weakness.

Dominionists have to operate, for now, in what they see as the contaminated environment of the secular, liberal state. They work with the rest of us only because they must. Given enough power—and they are working hard to get it—any such cooperation will vanish. They are no different from the vanguard described by Lenin or the Islamic terrorists who shaved off their beards, adopted Western dress and watched pay-for-view pornography in their hotel rooms the night before hijacking a plane for a suicide attack. The elect alone, like the Grand Inquisitor, are sanctioned to know the truth. And in the pursuit of their truth, they have no moral constraints.

….The rise of Christian fascism is aided by our complacency. The longer we fail to openly denounce and defy bankrupt liberalism, the longer we permit corporate power to plunder the nation and destroy the ecosystem, the longer we stand slack-jawed before the open gates of the city waiting meekly for the barbarians, the more we ensure their arrival.

Most Evangelicals are positively moderate by comparison to the Dominionist/Reconstructionists. But the Reconstructionist movement is a distilled essence of the more mainstream Evangelical version of an exclusionary theology that divides America into the “Real America” (as the Far Right claims only it is) and the rest of us “Sinners.” It also is the base of the Koch brothers financed war on our democracy.

Koch 1&2

And it was those “Real Americans” who were Bush’s base and are now the Koch brothers-financed Tea Party base empowering Ted Cruz as he carries out his father’s dream of destroying the government in order to put God in charge of America. I explore Cruz-style religious delusion in my new book And God Said, “Billy!”. Since religious delusion is at the heart of the American crisis, and since Billy! is the most thorough exploration of right wing religious delusion that’s been written – at least by a former religious right insider who can also write a funny book – it’s a good answer to this question: “Who ARE these people?”

If you don’t understand the Reconstructionist worldview you will never understand what Ted Cruz and the other American Taliban fanatics are or what animates them. The leaders of the Reconstructionist movement included the late Rousas Rushdoony (Calvinist theologian, father of modern-era Christian Reconstructionism, patron saint to gold-hoarding haters of the Federal Reserve, and creator of the modern Evangelical homeschool movement), his son-in-law Gary North (an economist and publisher), and David Chilton (Calvinist pastor and author). I knew and worked with these men. No, the Reconstructionists are not about to take over America, the world, or even most American Evangelical institutions. They had their day, and it has passed. Ted Cruz will fail. But he’ll hurt us all as he passes off the stage.

The Reconstructionists will fail but their influence has not abated, however. It’s just taken new forms in the Koch brother attempt to hijack America for Ayn Rand. The Reconstructionists have been like a drop of radicalizing flavoring added to a bottle of water: They’ve subtly changed the water’s flavor and — like John the Baptist — prepared the way for the true masters of the universe like the Koch brothers. And even though most Evangelicals, let alone the general public, don’t know the names of the leading Reconstructionist thinkers, the world we live in—where a radicalized, angry Religious Right has changed the face of American politics and spun off into movements such as the Tea Party—is a direct result of that “flavoring.” Anyone who wants to understand American politics, not to mention North American religion, had better get acquainted with the Reconstructionists.

Until Rushdoony, founder and late president of the Chalcedon Foundation, began writing in the 1960s, most American fundamentalists (including my parents Francis and Edith Schaeffer) didn’t try to apply biblical laws about capital punishment for homosexuality to the United States. Even the most conservative Evangelicals said they were “New Testament Christians.” In other words, they believed that after the coming of Jesus, the harsher bits of the Bible had been (at least to some extent) transformed by the “New Covenant” of Jesus’ “Law of Love.” By contrast, the leaders of Reconstructionism believed that Old Testament teachings—on everything from capital punishment for gays to the virtues of child-beating—were still valid because they were the inerrant Word and Will of God and therefore should be enforced. Not only that, they said that biblical law should be imposed even on nonbelievers. This theology was the American version of the attempt in some Muslim countries to impose Sharia (Islamic law) on all citizens, Muslims and non-Muslims alike.The impact of Reconstructionism (often under other names) has grown even though Rushdoony has largely been forgotten even in Evangelical circles, let alone the wider world. He made the Evangelical world more susceptible to being politicized—and manipulated by some very smart people like the Koch brothers. Religious leaders like Jerry Falwell who once had nothing to do with politics per se were influenced by the Reconstructionists. That in turn moved the whole Evangelical movement to the right and then into the political arena, where it became “normal” for Evangelical leaders to jump head first into politics with little-to-no regard for the separation of church and state.

Non-Evangelicals with political agendas have cashed in on the Evangelicals’ willingness to lend their numbers and influence to one moral crusade after another, or rather I should say, to one political crusade after another masquerading as moral crusades. For instance, Princeton University Professor of Jurisprudence Robert George is an antiabortion, anti-Obama, anti-gay-rights, and anti-stem-cell-research “profamily” activist, and he has found ways to effectively carry on the Reconstructionist agenda while truthfully denying any formal connection to people like Rushdoony. Take George’s brainchild: the “Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience.” This was published in 2009 as an anti-Obama manifesto, and many Evangelical leaders signed on. George may not have been consciously following Rushdoony or have even ever read his work, but the Evangelicals who signed on to his agenda would never have done so if not for the influence of Reconstructionism on American Evangelicals decades before.

Robert George with W

The “Manhattan Declaration” reads:

We will not comply with any edict that purports to compel our institutions to participate in abortions, embryo-destructive research, assisted suicide and euthanasia, or any other anti-life act<el>nor will we bend to any rule purporting to force us to bless immoral sexual partnerships, treat them as marriages or the equivalent, or refrain from proclaiming the truth, as we know it, about morality and immorality and marriage and the family. We will fully and ungrudgingly render to Caesar what is Caesar’s. But under no circumstances will we render to Caesar what is God’s.[14]

The “logic” of the shutdown was written by George. “We will not comply…” This is the language of libertarian anarchy. In case you’ve never heard of George, he’s been a one-man “brain trust” for the Religious Right and the Far Right of the Republican Party as well as for the ultraconservative wing of the Roman Catholic Church. Here’s how the New York Times introduced him to its readers:

[Robert George] has parlayed a 13th-century Catholic philosophy [the natural law theory] into real political influence. Glenn Beck, the Fox News talker and a big George fan, likes to introduce him as “one of the biggest brains in America,” or, on one broadcast, “Superman of the Earth.” Karl Rove told me he considers George a rising star on the right and a leading voice in persuading President George W. Bush to restrict embryonic stem-cell research.<el>Newt Gingrich called him “an important and growing influence” on the conservative movement, especially on matters like abortion and marriage. “If there really is a vast right-wing conspiracy,” the conservative Catholic journal Crisis concluded a few years ago, “its leaders probably meet in George’s kitchen.”[15]

Scalia with his mentor Robert George

I confronted George on a panel discussion entitled “Campaign ‘08: Race, Gender, and Religion” at Princeton University. We butted heads over what he’d been mischaracterizing as presidential candidate Obama’s “proabortion” position. At the time we met on that (six-person) panel, George was one of McCain’s key advisers and I (a former Republican) was blasting George’s man for having sold out to the Religious Right, which McCain had once called “agents of intolerance.” In introducing myself to the Princeton audience, I mentioned that McCain had written a glowing endorsement for one of my several books on military-civilian relations.[16] I also admitted that I’d actively worked for McCain in the 2000 presidential primaries against W. Bush by appearing—at McCain adviser Mark Salter’s oft-repeated urgent request—on several religious and other conservative talk shows (for instance, on Ollie North’s top-rated talk show) on McCain’s behalf. (In those days McCain was being attacked by the likes of Religious Right leader James Dobson for not being “pro-life” enough.)

George’s “Manhattan Declaration” was first co-signed by more than 150 American “mainstream” (mostly evangelical) conservative religious leaders. Since they have been joined by thousands more. They joined to “affirm support for traditional marriage” and to advocate civil disobedience against laws contradicting the signers’ religious beliefs about marriage and/or the “life issues.” The drafting committee included evangelical far right leader Charles Colson.

It was the Reconstructionists who, along with several less extreme activists like my father, created the climate in which the likes of George, Colson, and Beck were taken seriously by many Evangelicals. This is how the ground was prepared for the Koch brother-financed attempt to destroy our government. And interestingly Pope Francis has recently rebuked George and the other far right Roman Catholics by giving his interviews calling for a church no longer focused on culture war issues.

Without the work of the Reconstructionists, the next generation of religious activists like George and his henchman Scalia on the Supreme Court bench, (trying to use the courts to open the way for billionaires to control our elections in “Citizens United,” politics, and/or government shutdown to impose their narrow theology on the majority of Americans) would have been relegated to some lonely street corner where they could gather to howl at the moon. Instead, the twenty-first century’s theocrats like Cruz and George and Scalia (though they’d never so identify themselves) enjoy the backing of Fox News, are tolerated at places like Princeton University, and can be found running many Evangelical organizations.

And Now one of their very own — Ted Cruz — has just shut down the US government and threatens to destroy the faith and credit of America, and the world economy. Who says religion doesn’t matter?

Frank Schaeffer is a writer. His latest book — And God Said, “Billy!” exploring the roots of religious delusion is #1 on Amazon Kindle in the Political Humor category. On Kindle and NOOK for $3.99 and in paperback.

 


 

[1] Calvinism (also called the Reformed tradition, the Reformed faith, or Reformed theology) is a theological system. This branch of Christianity is named for French reformer John Calvin. According to Calvin, God is able to save every person upon whom He has mercy and His efforts are not frustrated by the unrighteousness or the inability of humans.The system is based on Five Points: total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints. The doctrine of total depravity says that, as a consequence of the fall of humanity into sin, every person born into the world is enslaved to the service of sin. The doctrine of unconditional election maintains that God chose from eternity those whom He will bring to Himself. The doctrine of limited atonement (also called particular redemption or definite atonement) asserts that Jesus’ substitutionary atonement was definite and certain in its design and accomplishment. This implies that only the sins of the elect were atoned for by Jesus’ death. The doctrine of irresistible grace says that the saving grace of God is effectually applied to those whom He has determined to save (that is, the elect) and, in God’s timing, overcomes their resistance to obeying the call of the gospel. The doctrine of perseverance (or preservation) of the saints asserts that since God is sovereign, His will cannot be frustrated by humans or anything else.

[2] Theonomy comes from two Greek words: theos, meaning “God,” and nomos, meaning “law.”

[3] In presenting a theonomic view of biblical law, the Chalcedon Foundation is often referred to as promoting theocracy and “dominionism.” See www.chalcedon.edu/blog/blog.php.

[4] David Chilton, Paradise Restored: A Biblical Theology of Dominion, 6th ed. (Tyler, TX: Dominion Press, 1999), 271.

[5] Gary North, Tools of Dominion (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1990), 845.

[6] Greg Loren Durand, “Judicial Warfare: The Christian Reconstruction Movement and Its Blueprints for Dominion,” Crownrights.com, www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/HistoryOfReconstructionMovement.html.

[7] Gary North, The Sinai Strategy: Economics and the Ten Commandments (Tyler, TX: Institute for Christian Economics, 1986), 59–60.

[8] Frederick Clarkson, “Christian Reconstructionism: Theocratic Dominionism Gains Influence,” The Public Eye, March–June 1994, www.publiceye.org/magazine/v08n1/chrisre1.html.

[9] Howard Ahmanson Jr. is heir to the Home Savings bank fortune. Howard became Rushdoony’s financier and served as a board member of Rushdoony’s Chalcedon Foundation. In the 1970s Ahmanson started the career of Marvin Olasky, who became an important figure in Evangelical media. Howard, like me, later renounced his association with the Reconstructionists, even going so far as to quit the Republican Party in 2009 and reregister as a Democrat. He also stopped by my home in 2010, along with his charming wife, Roberta, to tell me that he liked my memoir Crazy for God (New York: Carroll and Graf, 2007).

[10] The Institutes of Biblical Law. Table of Contents—The Third Commandment. Swearing and Revolution. The Oath and Society. The Oath and Authority. The Fourth Commandment. The Sabbath and Work. The Sabbath and Law Appendix: The Economics of Sabbath Keeping—by Gary North V. The Fifth Commandment. The Authority of the Family. The Economics of the Family. Education and the Family. The Family and Delinquency. The Sixth Commandment. The Death Penalty. Hybridization and Law. Abortion. Restitution or Restoration. Military Laws and Production. Taxation. Quarantine Laws. Dietary Rules. Social Inheritance: Landmarks. The Seventh Commandment. Marriage. Family Law. Marriage and Monogamy. Incest. Sex and Crime. Adultery. Divorce. Homosexuality. The Transvestite. Bestiality VIII. The Eighth Commandment. Dominion. Theft. Restitution and Forgiveness. Liability of the Bystander. Money and Measure. Usury. Landmarks and Land. The Virgin Birth and Property. Fraud. Eminent Domain. Labor Laws. Prison. The Rights of Strangers, Widows, and Orphans. The Ninth Commandment. Corroboration. Perjury. False Witness. Slander Within Marriage. Slander as Theft. Judges. The Responsibility of Judges and Rulers. The Court. The Procedure of the Court. The Judgment of the Court. The Tenth Commandment. Covetousness. Special Privilege. The System. Notes on Law in Western Society<el>etc.

[11] Rousas John Rushdoony, “The Increase of His Government and Peace” (Vallecito, CA: Chalcedon Foundation, December 1967).

[12] Rousas John Rushdoony, Thy Kingdom Come: Studies in Daniel and Revelation (Fairfax, VA: Thoburn Press, 1970).

[13] Ibid., 67.

[14] Robert George, “Manhattan Declaration: A Call of Christian Conscience,” November 20, 2009, www.manhattandeclaration.org/the-declaration/read.aspx.

[15] David Kirkpatrick, “The Conservative-Christian Big Thinker,” New York Times, December 16, 2009.

[16] Frank Schaeffer and Kathy Roth Douquet, AWOL: The Unexcused Absence of America’s Upper Classes from Military Service and How It Hurts Our Country (New York: HarperCollins 2006).

[17] Robert P. George, “Obama’s Abortion Extremism,” Catholic Online Opinion, October 16, 2008, Witherspoon Institute, www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=30081.

About Frank Schaeffer

Frank Schaeffer is an American author, film director, screenwriter and public speaker. He is the son of the late theologian and author Francis Schaeffer. He became a Hollywood film director and author, writing several internationally acclaimed novels including And God Said, "Billy!" as well as the Calvin Becker Trilogy depicting life in a fundamentalist mission home-- Portofino, Zermatt, and Saving Grandma.

  • Guest

    hey Frank, a heads up, the link to the TruthDig article here has an extra “ht” at the beginning and a ‘tp://” at the end that keep it from working

    • frankschaeffer

      thanks fixed! F

  • gimpi1

    The Reconstructionists scare the crap out of me. I find it hard to imagine that anyone would want to live in the kind of world they would want to create, but the evidence clearly shows that a small but significant minority do. May those of us on the sane side of the board be able to keep them checked.

  • http://cewilton.blogspot.com Carl Wilton

    I enjoyed your very incisive article, but please don’t try to boil Calvinism, and the Reformed Tradition, down to the “Five Points” of so-called orthodox Calvinism. John Calvin’s own thought is far more subtle than that ham-handed oversimplification, and there is a great deal of the Reformed Tradition that repudiates this approach, and is appalled by Christian Reconstructionism (as well it should be). While Christian Reconstructionists may imagine themselves as modern-day Calvinists, they are in fact far from mainstream, and those of us in the broader Reformed Tradition want nothing to do with them.

    • Nancy Houtz

      Thanks, Carl! You said it better than I could, so I will leave it at that.
      John Calvin’s writings go very deep and not many appreciate the full meaning or are able to fully explain them.

  • William Robert Guerra

    wow…schaeffer is completely lost and paranoid…he really hates Christians, huh?

    • Æþelhad

      Given his childhood, his fear is probably a bit more rational than you give him credit for, and, no, he doesn’t hate Christians–you at the very least can see that throughout the essay. He’s very careful to be specific about who did what and what branch of Christians subscribes to this sort of philosophy.

    • Nancy Houtz

      Nope — he just has searched for and found truth.

      • William Robert Guerra

        maybe “his” truth but not The Truth…he is completely wrong…our country MUST turn back to Christian standards – there are practically NO morals left – “if it feels good, it’s ok” – until you wake up in Hell for eternity…and that’s sad…and anyone who claims to be a Christian and doesn’t think roe v wade should be overturned is probably not really a Christian…

        ps…your comment has no likes and mine has 5…that tells me there’s still hope in this sinful mixed up world – people still out there craving mercy and grace….

        • Steve K

          Or really, just the brain dead like your comment, while us that are still sane are facedesking your utter stupidity?

          Still, what to expect from someone brainwashed by total culture from birth into believing such asinine delusions….

          • William Robert Guerra

            we’ll see in the end, won’t we…as they say, if I’m wrong, I’ve lost nothing but if you’re wrong, you’ve lost everything…

          • Steve K

            Yeah? I’ll take that “risk” instead of wasting my life subscribing to a perverted belief system, and abusing that belief to decry everything I *think* I believe is wrong with the world.

            Instead of hate, rage and bile against everyone without my “beliefs”, I’ll fight for everyone to be treated as the Human they are.

            I don’t *CARE* what their belief systems are, if they oppress and attack sections of society for being “different”, or because some many-times rewritten book of fables and myths tells them to, I’ll oppose them.

            Life is too short for hate. Especially when it’s directed at the wrong targets – those most needing protection.

          • William Robert Guerra

            i haven’t “wasted” my life; i enjoy it fully…i don’t have hate, rage and bile against anyone (but it sounds like you do towards me), i don’t have time for that nonsense…true Christians don’t oppress or attack anyone so stop trying to lump everyone together b/c of some extremists, just like in anything else…and if you knew the Bible, you would know it doesn’t say what you think it says….

        • Matthew_Bailey

          You claim that there is an “Absolute Truth?”

          How does this “Absolute Truth” account for a changing world?

          You do realize that believing in an Absolute Truth means that one is an “Absolutist” (to use the technical term)?

          And that an Absolutist is also a Totalitarian (The words are synonyms)?

        • Nancy Houtz

          This discussion is not a popularity contest, William. A Christian is one who follows Jesus as His-Her savior and Lord of one’s life. Re morals — we are in complete agreement about the state of our country and lack of values. Where we disagree is what I consider a dangerous and false belief that legislation and power politics can change what people choose to do with their lives. It is God’s love through Jesus & His holy spirit in their lives that can and will change them. This is why I find the Christian right politics so horrible. It is because they are actually turning people hungry for meaning and love and truth away from God, and instead giving them a false sense of superiority and control via the popularity of right wing politics found in so many evangelical churches.
          I do NOT agree with everything Frank says any more than I agree with what any other person says — about spiritual matters, unless I have deeply searched for the truth and used the only reliable guide for this, the Bible and much prayer. Still doesn’t mean I am “right” and others who disagree are “wrong”. God’s ways are not our ways and only He knows the Truth. But the shallow thinking of the Christian right who think they know more than God about our earthly matters is plain old scary.

          • William Robert Guerra

            um…you definitely CAN tell right from wrong…it’s very clear in the Bible you claim to search for answers in…He has given us the Truth – He has written it on our hearts…
            who ever said I claim to know more than God? – I’m just proclaiming the Truth He gave us – It’s people like you who claim to be Christians but in the end stand for nothing because you are afraid to step on anyone else’s feelings or beliefs that are scary…

          • Nancy Houtz

            Your simplistic understanding of Christianity is scary. We are all sinners and fall into sin even after becoming a Christian. In sin we often believe what we do is right when it is really wrong. Frankly, I have never known a Christian who was good enough to make me want to be a Christian. Instead, I have known Christians who demonstrated Christ’s love who did so. Your categorizing “People like you” is so un-Christian it is almost funny. Instead it should be “People like us” Also, I’m not afraid of seeping on your beliefs as I write this. However, I really don’t feel inclined to waste my precious time with further discussion. Sorry!

          • William Robert Guerra

            it wasn’t “people like us” because i believe it is right to call someone out when you have the Truth behind you whereas you feel we should just accept everything that people choose to do…if we don’t point out sin in love then we are really just assisting them into hell and that is not acceptable if possible….good luck…

          • Nancy Houtz

            These discussions are addictive! I cannot pass on the opportunity to point out that you’ve missed my point…I have been trying to do just that with you — ie, point out sin in love and calling someone out (you). I should say I will pray for you and your soul, William, but this is the pat answer of “Christianese” — and I don’t really know you. I was not raised in a Christian home, and was converted at age 31 in 1967 – and has been a long journey with God to this point. As I near the next adventure of life with God, I increasingly feel so sad for those who are lost souls who are missing out on so much that is there for them. A matter of turning toward the light instead of having one’s back to the light and viewing what the light is illuminating. (St. Augustine’s Confessions). Guess I must be needing the last word in the discussion…. so feel free to finish this up and I will restrain myself! LOL.

          • William Robert Guerra

            careful nancy, addictions can be dangerous…lol…you aren’t succeeding in calling me out b/c i’m not sinning…nothing i’ve said was wrong or hateful towards anyone…and be honest – most of what you said was not “in love”…and you are correct, that is a pat Christianese answer and I usually think it’s a cop out, so ya got that goin for ya…i hope that you are on the right path – i know i am – i would just encourage you to stand up for God’s Truth – don’t let what other people think of you to scare you off – we ALL fall into that trap…the Bible tells us that things are going to get worse and you WILL be persecuted for following Him, but if you don’t stand up, and you deny Him, then He will deny you…and i didn’t respond just to tempt you to get the last word – you can do it – restrain yourself…lol…

  • lmc959714@gmail.com

    It’s your soul, Frank, and you’re clearly an educated and enlightened adult. Feel free to sell it to whomever you please.

  • Nancy Houtz

    I’m an old lady born again Christian since 1967. When I read Frank’s book “Crazy for God” it confirmed what I’d already come to understand to my satisfaction — that the Right Wing used Christian’s naivety to gain their political support by opposing Rowe vs Wade and dedication to overturning it by appointees to the Supreme Court.

    Frank’s book was/is very honest and real and it took courage to break away from the powerful forces at work on the right. My only criticism is over Frank’s need to use the shock value of foul language to get his point across. Maybe I am naïve and people really do talk like that much of the time. I believe, however, that God is using Frank for good and to bring about truth re the Christian right, whether Frank realizes this or not. Must admit, I just read ‘Billy” and didn’t find it humorous… only sad because it hit the nail on the head. One thing I refuse to do is talk “Christianese” a name I’ve given to the language used in many Christian circles. Bottom line, to me is that Jesus loves Frank, myself, and everyone else in this crazy mixed up world!

  • Monte Harmon

    It’s sad to see the mess Franky has become. I visited L’Abri in ’75 and am grateful to his father for skillful and timely writings. Having maried into an Orthodox family I find myself interested in some of what I read and listen to, but unimpressed by Frankys vulgar rants and general anger. He does not represent them at all well. Other than some of the mainstream liberal reformed, he does not correctly portray the reformed faith or theonomists either, with a few isolated exceptions. Completely apart from issues I disagree with him over, his anger and hatred are not the fruits of a regenerate heart.

  • keimh3regpeh2umeg

    I had no idea one man could circle jerk with himself. That’s quite a talent you got there Fwanky.

  • arkycubbies

    Are you a Christian and taking God’s name in vain? Are you a
    Christian that is committing blaspheming? Many of the Christians are! The third
    of the Ten Commandments is that you will not misuse the name of the Lord our
    God. The King James Version says, “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in
    vain”. What does that mean? Does it not mean you will not use God’s name when
    you are committing sins against God? Does it not mean you will not speak for
    God by saying God did this because…, God caused the hurricane because man was
    evil; God did this because you were evil; God did this because America did
    this; or God did this because you….! Have republican Christians not heard of
    the Devil, the Destroyer, and the Deceiver? The republican Christian Right has seemed
    to believe they are the ones that speak for God. The conservatives are quick to
    place blame in God’s name and they tell us what God is saying. Funny thing, I
    hear God saying something total opposite than what the republicans are claiming
    God says. When I read the Bible or pray to God, I hear to love and serve by
    being the shining light of His gossip; not force what I hear from God on other’s
    free will that will cause the redemptive opportunity to be lost.

    I hear God speaking to me through Deuteronomy 10:12 to respect
    God; to live in God’s ways; to love our God; to serve God wholeheartedly; and
    to obey God. I hear God speaking to me in Micah 6:8 to be just to all; to love
    mercy for all; and to walk humbly with God. I hear God telling me to love, to
    have compassion, to care, and to serve the poor, the needy and the helpless 236
    times in His Word, the Bible. I hear God telling me in Proverbs 14:31 that if I
    oppress the poor that I will have contempt towards God and that in Proverbs
    31:8-9 to defend the rights of the poor and needy; yet the republicans take
    food from the hungry poor children. I hear Jesus telling me three times in Matthew
    19: 23-24, Mark 10:24-25 and Luke 18:24-25 that the rich are as likely to enter
    Heaven as it is to put a camel through the eye of a needle; but yet the
    republicans defend the wealthy and capitalism. I hear God telling me in Romans
    13: 1-7 to submit myself to governing authorities, to not rebel against those
    authorities; and to pay my taxes; but yet I see the tea party/republicans/conservatives
    not summiting to the government with a tenacious rebellion fighting taxes on
    the rich. I hear God telling me over 500 times in the Bible to love.

    You tell me if you really think being a republican is what
    God is telling you, because God is telling me republicans are committing
    blaspheme and taking our God’s name in vain. Tell me if the hate, the slander,
    the racism, the rebellion against the government, and the fundamentalism of the
    republicans is what God wants for His children. Jesus showed us what He thought
    about the Pharisees and the republicans are today’s Pharisees!

    • noillusion

      Jesus Christ, that was a long post.

  • BettyBenson

    Thank you Mr. Schaeffer for making so many issues clear in my mind. I, like so many Americans these days, have wondered confusedly what is going on with these people who are leading us down the path into a maelstrom of poverty, powerlessness and submission to the religious right – all conditions of the masses of humanity living in third world countries. These same groups of Reconstructionists, Christian Right, etc., are the exact same types of people as the Islamic Fundamentalists and Zionists existing in Muslim and Jewish countries around the world. Where does that lead us?

  • TEDjosa

    SO RAFAEL TTITTY CRUS IS A THEOCRAT EVANGELICAL AND DEBATING WITH THIS ASSHOLE IS USELESS CAUSE ITS H IS WAY OR THE HIGHWAY ND HE IS BENT ON DESTROYING THE US GOVERNMENT SO HIS CAN IMPOSE HIS WILL OF THE KOCH BROTHERS EMPIRE ON AMERICA FOR AYAND RAND. IT FIGURES OUT WHY RYAN AND RAFAEL CRUS AND BONER DONT DEBATE OR WANT BIPARTISAN SHIP OUR DEMOCRATIC GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN OVER THROWN THE PRESIDENCY HAS BEEN RENDERED IMPOTENT AND WHY THE MIDDLE CLASS IS DISAPPEARING WE ARE BEING SUBJUGATED BY FOX NEWS TO THERE RWING DOMINIONIST PROPAGANDA .ITS WORKING.

  • Tony Jiang

    http://americanvision.org/9559/dominion … zied-lies/ check out what some dominonists have been writing about you

  • Matthew_Bailey

    You have quite the following of rabid trolls, Frank.

    Although, I understand COMPLETELY where you are coming from (I grew up with a mother who was a warped amalgamation of Evangelical and Christian Scientist – worst of all possible combinations). I’m surprised that I survived childhood given that I didn’t see a doctor until I was well into my 20′s (when I realized: “If I am sick, I can go to the doctor and get medications that will fix me!”).

    However, because of my mother’s fanaticism, it made me very interested in where her beliefs came from, and I wound up studying belief, and mythology from none other than Joseph Campbell himself (He was a guest lecturer at one of the Universities I attended in the early 1980s – I was hoping that I could do graduate work with one of his former pupils, but I was derailed by a girl… or girls).

    Thus I have a pretty deep knowledge of both the origins of the Levantine Monomyth (out of which the Abrahamic Faith’s arose), and of how myths, and those who create them, function within a society positively or negatively, and neutrally (and the transitions that occur between those two states).

    I learned about Dominionism during that time as well, and it was the growing influence of the Religious Right (and Dominionists) within the GOP that eventually caused me to realize that the GOP no longer represented the values I held dear (mostly those things for which we have evidence).

    I have been promoting you on Twitter and Facebook. I hope that you have much success in getting this message out to the general population so that they will understand the difference between a Modern Day Progressive Faith, and a Regressive, Xenophobic, Paranoid Fanaticism based in a Pathological Delusion.

    On a side note.

    I wish that Chris Hedges would apply the same reason and rationality to Islam that he does to Evangelical Christianity. He seems to be incapable of understanding that the proportion of fanatics among Islam is much higher than the proportion of fanatics among Christianity; that even though not all Muslims have such pathological belief, enough of them do to present a more profound danger to each other, and the rest of the world, than the Dominionists do to the USA.

    Many Progressives are loath to apply this same reasoning to radical Islam, out of a fear inspired by a Political Correctness, or Cultural Relativism.

    Progressives are RIGHT to oppose the Religious Right and Evangelical’s opposition to Islam (which paints the entire faith as being “Evil”), but it would be wrong to ignore a real threat that is Radical Islam, and that such threat represents a much larger portion of the Islamic World than does the Evangelical among the Western World.


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