Putting humanity on trial

In Sweden, all of humanity has been put on trial with a jury of Nobel Laureates.

On Tuesday 17 May, humanity will be on trial as the 3rd Nobel Laureate Symposium brings together almost 20 Nobel Laureates, a number of leading policy makers and some of the world’s most renowned thinkers and experts on global sustainability.

With Planet Earth as plaintiff and Nobel Laureates as jury members, compelling evidence will be presented showing how humanity may now be capable of radically altering the remarkable conditions for life on Earth. Nobel Laureates will hear how our vast imprint on the planet’s environment has shifted the Earth into a new geological period labelled the “Anthropocene” – the Age of Man.

“This court case is a bold step to take, especially in the context of this Nobel Laureate Symposium. It is, however, a necessary step towards recognising that our generation is the first to know that human pressure is so large that the possibility of irreversible changes to the Earth System can no longer be excluded. The prosecution will therefore maintain that humanity must work towards global stewardship around the planet’s intrinsic boundaries, a scientifically defined space within which we can continue to develop,” says Professor Will Steffen, prosecutor and Director at Climate Change Institute, Australian National University.

One of the most recent and most significant attempts to provide scientific guidelines for such improved stewardship was published in Nature in 2009. The Planetary Boundaries approach was developed by 28 scientists, who estimated that three of the boundaries, climate change, the nitrogen cycle and biodiversity loss, have already been transgressed and that several other are already in the danger zone.

“We know the earth’s resilience and resource base cannot be stretched infinitely. Moreover we are now uncomfortably aware that “business as usual” is not an option anymore. Our societies and economies are integral parts of the biosphere and it is time for the leaders of the world to act as stewards of nature’s invaluable and inescapable contribution to human livelihoods, health, security and culture,” says Professor Johan Rockström, Symposium Chair and Director of Stockholm Resilience Centre at Stockholm University, and Stockholm Environment Institute.

The court verdict will contribute to the Stockholm Memorandum to be signed by Nobel Laureates on 18 May. The Memorandum will be handed over in person to the High-level Panel on Global Sustainability appointed by the UN Secretary General in preparation for the 2012 UN Conference on Sustainable Development in Rio de Janeiro (Rio +20) and for the ongoing climate negotiations.

via Humanity on trial in Nobel Laureate Court Case | Global Symposium 2011.

First of all, this report was made before the event and it sounds like humanity was not considered innocent before being proven guilty.  Also, I don’t know about you, but I was not read my rights and did not have legal counsel.  The jury did not consist of my peers, since the Nobel Prize winners are smarter than me, and, anyway, aren’t they human beings too and thus part of the indictment?  I assume that the verdict was “guilty.”  So are they going to throw all of humanity into the slammer?  And if they do, who is going to run the prison?

HT: James Kirschner

About Gene Veith

Professor of Literature at Patrick Henry College, the Director of the Cranach Institute at Concordia Theological Seminary, a columnist for World Magazine and TableTalk, and the author of 18 books on different facets of Christianity & Culture.

  • WebMonk

    Designed for the media as a sideshow. Lots of splash and OMG factor. It’s just a fancier way of putting forward “papers” that have been put forward a hundred times before.

    Chances are pretty good that there won’t actually be and actual science put forward in the case, but rather regurgitated folk-science gathered from the last 10-20 years.

  • WebMonk

    Designed for the media as a sideshow. Lots of splash and OMG factor. It’s just a fancier way of putting forward “papers” that have been put forward a hundred times before.

    Chances are pretty good that there won’t actually be and actual science put forward in the case, but rather regurgitated folk-science gathered from the last 10-20 years.

  • ELB

    The only solution is to put the conduct of our lives in the hands of the elite so that they can tell us how to live. What is under indictment is freedom. What should be under indictment is sin.

  • ELB

    The only solution is to put the conduct of our lives in the hands of the elite so that they can tell us how to live. What is under indictment is freedom. What should be under indictment is sin.

  • Tom Hering

    “… it sounds like humanity was not considered innocent before being proven guilty … I was not read my rights and did not have legal counsel.”

    The symposium followed America’s moral leadership, and subjected all of humanity to extraordinary rendition. Which has, of course, only created new environmental problems. Will the enhanced interrogation of seven billion people put too great of a strain on our planet’s already-dwindling water resources? Will we have to log the rest of the Amazon to make all those boards, or can we make waterboards out of recycled milk jugs? Can the hot lights be CFLs and still be hot enough to make us sweat? And if we’re all stripped naked in order to shame us, is there enough Polaroid film around for Al Gore to take pictures of everybody?

  • Tom Hering

    “… it sounds like humanity was not considered innocent before being proven guilty … I was not read my rights and did not have legal counsel.”

    The symposium followed America’s moral leadership, and subjected all of humanity to extraordinary rendition. Which has, of course, only created new environmental problems. Will the enhanced interrogation of seven billion people put too great of a strain on our planet’s already-dwindling water resources? Will we have to log the rest of the Amazon to make all those boards, or can we make waterboards out of recycled milk jugs? Can the hot lights be CFLs and still be hot enough to make us sweat? And if we’re all stripped naked in order to shame us, is there enough Polaroid film around for Al Gore to take pictures of everybody?

  • Jeremy

    Environmentalists aren’t acting for the Earth’s sake — they are acting for the sake of future humans. Mankind couldn’t destroy the earth if they wanted to — they can only make it miserable for future humans. If we all decided to drive hummers, coal mine the entire planet, and set off every nuclear weapon, the earth would still stand, and wouldn’t be any less “happy” or “sad”. Venus is a planet that has an 800 degree surface temperature and has an atmosphere with poisonous gases — does it need to be protected?

  • Jeremy

    Environmentalists aren’t acting for the Earth’s sake — they are acting for the sake of future humans. Mankind couldn’t destroy the earth if they wanted to — they can only make it miserable for future humans. If we all decided to drive hummers, coal mine the entire planet, and set off every nuclear weapon, the earth would still stand, and wouldn’t be any less “happy” or “sad”. Venus is a planet that has an 800 degree surface temperature and has an atmosphere with poisonous gases — does it need to be protected?

  • http://lutherama.blogspot.com Dr. Luther in the 21st Century

    This sounds like a crossover between the Simpsons and Star Trek The Next Generation. Although those transcripts were funnier and better written.

  • http://lutherama.blogspot.com Dr. Luther in the 21st Century

    This sounds like a crossover between the Simpsons and Star Trek The Next Generation. Although those transcripts were funnier and better written.

  • Dennis Peskey

    Apparently, there is a deficiency of entertainment in Sweden. The news report listing of the “trial” members included only one witness, a Mr. PauL J. Crutzen, Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1995.

    For a “trial” as grandiose and encompassing as the proposed scope of this deliberation – surely, we could muster more authority than only one witness. At the very least, could we not conjure a pair of pomposity to convict humanity. These people could learn a thing (or two) about how to conduct a farce properly from the Sanhedrin. When we decided to convict God’s Son, at least we mustered several witnesses to testify (since truth and reality are non-sequitur). I can find more reality in reruns of Oprah.
    Pax,
    Dennis

  • Dennis Peskey

    Apparently, there is a deficiency of entertainment in Sweden. The news report listing of the “trial” members included only one witness, a Mr. PauL J. Crutzen, Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1995.

    For a “trial” as grandiose and encompassing as the proposed scope of this deliberation – surely, we could muster more authority than only one witness. At the very least, could we not conjure a pair of pomposity to convict humanity. These people could learn a thing (or two) about how to conduct a farce properly from the Sanhedrin. When we decided to convict God’s Son, at least we mustered several witnesses to testify (since truth and reality are non-sequitur). I can find more reality in reruns of Oprah.
    Pax,
    Dennis

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    OK, to raise a question, how many Nobel science laureates are climatologists, and are therefore qualified, by the logic of the IPCC, to commment?

    If I remember correctly, the number is zero. Nice stunt, boys, go off and eat some lutefisk and drink some aquavit to close off your day.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    OK, to raise a question, how many Nobel science laureates are climatologists, and are therefore qualified, by the logic of the IPCC, to commment?

    If I remember correctly, the number is zero. Nice stunt, boys, go off and eat some lutefisk and drink some aquavit to close off your day.

  • Mary

    Hubris

  • Mary

    Hubris

  • Steve

    Don’t they have anything better to do?

    With all the hot air no doubt being exhaled by those gasbags, perhaps we really should take global warming more seriously. The more they bloviate, the more the ice caps melt.

  • Steve

    Don’t they have anything better to do?

    With all the hot air no doubt being exhaled by those gasbags, perhaps we really should take global warming more seriously. The more they bloviate, the more the ice caps melt.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “who is going to run the prison?”

    This is my main concern.

    We know they want an excuse to rule over us.

    This is just the latest iteration of the will to power.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “who is going to run the prison?”

    This is my main concern.

    We know they want an excuse to rule over us.

    This is just the latest iteration of the will to power.

  • Tom Hering

    Yeah, the thought of Sweden ruling the world with the help of researchers – researchers! – keeps me up at night too.

  • Tom Hering

    Yeah, the thought of Sweden ruling the world with the help of researchers – researchers! – keeps me up at night too.

  • Tom Hering

    I’m sorry, but it’s just hard for me to take this as seriously as some here seem to take it. Are we in conspiracy-thinking mode today, connecting all the dots until it’s obvious “they” are out to get us? I mean, this mock trial, this publicity stunt, isn’t a sign of power. It’s a sign of relative powerlessness.

  • Tom Hering

    I’m sorry, but it’s just hard for me to take this as seriously as some here seem to take it. Are we in conspiracy-thinking mode today, connecting all the dots until it’s obvious “they” are out to get us? I mean, this mock trial, this publicity stunt, isn’t a sign of power. It’s a sign of relative powerlessness.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “Yeah, the thought of Sweden ruling the world with the help of researchers – researchers! – keeps me up at night too.”

    Yeah, no group of self-appointed European elites has ever wrecked havoc on the world.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    “Yeah, the thought of Sweden ruling the world with the help of researchers – researchers! – keeps me up at night too.”

    Yeah, no group of self-appointed European elites has ever wrecked havoc on the world.

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    More educated fools out to expiate their guilty consciences by condemning their ‘lessers’ and by making pompous pronouncements and condemnatory symbolic gestures.
    Whatever….

  • http://www.newreformationpress.com Patrick Kyle

    More educated fools out to expiate their guilty consciences by condemning their ‘lessers’ and by making pompous pronouncements and condemnatory symbolic gestures.
    Whatever….

  • Jonathan

    “…since the Nobel Prize winners are smarter than me, …”

    That would be “smarter than I,” Gene. And they’re smarter than I as well. :)

  • Jonathan

    “…since the Nobel Prize winners are smarter than me, …”

    That would be “smarter than I,” Gene. And they’re smarter than I as well. :)

  • Jerry

    You think this is a joke–I only wish it were, but these people are serious and in a post-modern world they can more sense then the rest of us because they are writing the rules. They got there because they are also in charge of educating the next generation. Many remember the 60′s Paul Erlich’s, The Population Bomb. The Green Revolution of the 70′s of course rescued man-kind from the predictions made in the 60′s.

    However, Ehrlich and his ken never went away, to save face they just re-invented themselves as promoters of sustainable living. Unfortunately, sustainability counters every advancement made in the Green Revolution. Furthermore in the post-modern world, science is no longer knowledge as it was in the 60′s, but science is whatever the promoter believes is the truth.

    Call ‘em fools and laugh at ‘em. Who will run the prison? Obviously those who “know” better than the rest of us.

  • Jerry

    You think this is a joke–I only wish it were, but these people are serious and in a post-modern world they can more sense then the rest of us because they are writing the rules. They got there because they are also in charge of educating the next generation. Many remember the 60′s Paul Erlich’s, The Population Bomb. The Green Revolution of the 70′s of course rescued man-kind from the predictions made in the 60′s.

    However, Ehrlich and his ken never went away, to save face they just re-invented themselves as promoters of sustainable living. Unfortunately, sustainability counters every advancement made in the Green Revolution. Furthermore in the post-modern world, science is no longer knowledge as it was in the 60′s, but science is whatever the promoter believes is the truth.

    Call ‘em fools and laugh at ‘em. Who will run the prison? Obviously those who “know” better than the rest of us.

  • http://www.redeemedrambling.blogspot.com/ John

    I don’t understand. If naturalistic evolution is the foundation for our worldview, how can human alteration of the earth be considered bad? Isn’t it natural for the ecosystem to evolve in such a way as to support the fittest? In fact, we almost have an ethical obligation to change the ecosystem to fit our needs.

  • http://www.redeemedrambling.blogspot.com/ John

    I don’t understand. If naturalistic evolution is the foundation for our worldview, how can human alteration of the earth be considered bad? Isn’t it natural for the ecosystem to evolve in such a way as to support the fittest? In fact, we almost have an ethical obligation to change the ecosystem to fit our needs.

  • Louis

    John @ 17, that is true for any deterministic system. With determinism, moral values are essentialy meaningless.

  • Louis

    John @ 17, that is true for any deterministic system. With determinism, moral values are essentialy meaningless.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    There’s going to be a similar trial (soon).

    But the One who will be judging us is the One who died for us.

  • http://theoldadam.wordpress.com Steve Martin

    There’s going to be a similar trial (soon).

    But the One who will be judging us is the One who died for us.

  • DonS

    “This court case is a bold step to take, especially in the context of this Nobel Laureate Symposium…”

    What, exactly, is bold about any of this? The elitist establishment completely supports it, because its predetermined “findings” will be used to justify the assumption of yet more political power in the name of earth stewardship.

  • DonS

    “This court case is a bold step to take, especially in the context of this Nobel Laureate Symposium…”

    What, exactly, is bold about any of this? The elitist establishment completely supports it, because its predetermined “findings” will be used to justify the assumption of yet more political power in the name of earth stewardship.

  • The Jones

    If all humanity is going into the slammer, I think this might be a good time to let all you in the blog-o-sphere who have never seen me know that I am actually a bunny.

    And I’ll run the prison, thankyouverymuch!

  • The Jones

    If all humanity is going into the slammer, I think this might be a good time to let all you in the blog-o-sphere who have never seen me know that I am actually a bunny.

    And I’ll run the prison, thankyouverymuch!

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    ” in the name of earth stewardship.”

    aka, for our own good.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    ” in the name of earth stewardship.”

    aka, for our own good.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Perhaps the humorless conservative fearmongering on display in the comments here can finally put to rest the arguments I sometimes hear about how it’s the liberals who have no sense of humor.

    I’d like to award the Special Prize — or, in the language of international diplomacy, Le Prix Spécial — to Jerry (@16). “They are writing the rules”! “They are also in charge of educating the next generation”! They want to fluoridate our water with chemicals that will make us shop at Benetton! They have hacked into my Sleep Number® Bed to drain my precious bodily fluids!

    I will, however, award one point to DLit2C (@5), for his reference to Star Trek: The Next Generation and the various episodes involving Q.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Perhaps the humorless conservative fearmongering on display in the comments here can finally put to rest the arguments I sometimes hear about how it’s the liberals who have no sense of humor.

    I’d like to award the Special Prize — or, in the language of international diplomacy, Le Prix Spécial — to Jerry (@16). “They are writing the rules”! “They are also in charge of educating the next generation”! They want to fluoridate our water with chemicals that will make us shop at Benetton! They have hacked into my Sleep Number® Bed to drain my precious bodily fluids!

    I will, however, award one point to DLit2C (@5), for his reference to Star Trek: The Next Generation and the various episodes involving Q.

  • Tom Hering

    “Yeah, no group of self-appointed European elites has ever wrecked havoc on the world.” – sg @ 13.

    Okay, I admit that I too have seen the reports about the Nobel Committee melting down medals to build tanks and planes. And perhaps most frightening of all, we know they have the formula for dynamite!

  • Tom Hering

    “Yeah, no group of self-appointed European elites has ever wrecked havoc on the world.” – sg @ 13.

    Okay, I admit that I too have seen the reports about the Nobel Committee melting down medals to build tanks and planes. And perhaps most frightening of all, we know they have the formula for dynamite!

  • Rose

    The format is novel.
    It probably won’t touch Steve Allen’s old “Meeting of the Minds”.

  • Rose

    The format is novel.
    It probably won’t touch Steve Allen’s old “Meeting of the Minds”.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    What would we think of a group of religionists in the Middle East who put together some committee and put the rest of the world on trial?

    The creepy part is the arrogance of any little group deciding they are somehow fit to judge the rest of humanity.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    What would we think of a group of religionists in the Middle East who put together some committee and put the rest of the world on trial?

    The creepy part is the arrogance of any little group deciding they are somehow fit to judge the rest of humanity.

  • Jonathan

    Note to self: Dress the kids as “PhDs” [hornrims, high-water pants, bow ties?] this Halloween and teach them to speak w/Swedish accents; send them into the Republican suburbs after dark…..

  • Jonathan

    Note to self: Dress the kids as “PhDs” [hornrims, high-water pants, bow ties?] this Halloween and teach them to speak w/Swedish accents; send them into the Republican suburbs after dark…..

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    It just doesn’t have that brotherhood of man, let’s all work together for a better world kind of ring to it.

    It is a PR disaster, basically calling everyone enemies of earth.

    Or maybe not. Maybe it is their way of calling us all sinners who need to repent. Maybe they are coming around to the idea that humanity is indeed fallen.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    It just doesn’t have that brotherhood of man, let’s all work together for a better world kind of ring to it.

    It is a PR disaster, basically calling everyone enemies of earth.

    Or maybe not. Maybe it is their way of calling us all sinners who need to repent. Maybe they are coming around to the idea that humanity is indeed fallen.

  • Tom Hering

    “What would we think of a group of religionists in the Middle East who put together some committee and put the rest of the world on trial?”

    Why, we’d probably think they were trying to get everyone’s attention. And that they’d probably watched The Story of Mankind (1957). From Amazon.com:

    Here is the most far-out courtroom thriller you’ll ever see. The setting is outer space, the defendant is all of us and the issue is
    whether we should be allowed to survive. Defending counsel, the Spirit of Man (Ronald Colman), says yes. Prosecuting counsel, the Devil (Vincent Price), says no. And each presents historical evidence in vignettes that feature Hedy Lamarr as Joan of Arc, Dennis Hopper as Napoleon, Harpo Marx as Isaac Newton, plus Groucho, Chico, Virginia Mayo, Peter Lorre, Charles Coburn, Agnes Moorehead – 25 stars in all! Produced, directed and co-written by Irwin Allen (The Poseidon Adventure), this uncommon curio is Colman’s final film and the last time the three Marx Brothers appeared in the same movie.

  • Tom Hering

    “What would we think of a group of religionists in the Middle East who put together some committee and put the rest of the world on trial?”

    Why, we’d probably think they were trying to get everyone’s attention. And that they’d probably watched The Story of Mankind (1957). From Amazon.com:

    Here is the most far-out courtroom thriller you’ll ever see. The setting is outer space, the defendant is all of us and the issue is
    whether we should be allowed to survive. Defending counsel, the Spirit of Man (Ronald Colman), says yes. Prosecuting counsel, the Devil (Vincent Price), says no. And each presents historical evidence in vignettes that feature Hedy Lamarr as Joan of Arc, Dennis Hopper as Napoleon, Harpo Marx as Isaac Newton, plus Groucho, Chico, Virginia Mayo, Peter Lorre, Charles Coburn, Agnes Moorehead – 25 stars in all! Produced, directed and co-written by Irwin Allen (The Poseidon Adventure), this uncommon curio is Colman’s final film and the last time the three Marx Brothers appeared in the same movie.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    The thing is researchers are far from incorruptible. They are only people like the rest of us. Many times we have been assured that all the experts agree, only to find out later, well no, there is actually more going on that they didn’t know about or didn’t account for.

    Likewise, a new book explains how experts were employed by Fannie Mae to generate research that supported the unorthodox lending practices that lead to the mortgage crisis.

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/banking/2011/05/reckless-endangerment-must-read.html

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    The thing is researchers are far from incorruptible. They are only people like the rest of us. Many times we have been assured that all the experts agree, only to find out later, well no, there is actually more going on that they didn’t know about or didn’t account for.

    Likewise, a new book explains how experts were employed by Fannie Mae to generate research that supported the unorthodox lending practices that lead to the mortgage crisis.

    http://lawprofessors.typepad.com/banking/2011/05/reckless-endangerment-must-read.html

  • Louis

    You want to make a conservative/evangelical/redneck happy? Give him/her some evidence of a conspiracy against them. Nothing delights them as much as the idea that someone is out to get them.

  • Louis

    You want to make a conservative/evangelical/redneck happy? Give him/her some evidence of a conspiracy against them. Nothing delights them as much as the idea that someone is out to get them.

  • Louis

    Jonathan, if that fails, put a UN helmet on them…

  • Louis

    Jonathan, if that fails, put a UN helmet on them…

  • steve

    One more bit of silliness to add to the recent string of silliness from the fine folks at Nobel. Some said this is a “mock trial”; though I would agree, it’s hard to tell what’s being mocked.

  • steve

    One more bit of silliness to add to the recent string of silliness from the fine folks at Nobel. Some said this is a “mock trial”; though I would agree, it’s hard to tell what’s being mocked.

  • steve

    Louis, #31:

    Yeah, like all those conservative/evangelical/rednecks who claim 9/11 was an inside job. Right?

  • steve

    Louis, #31:

    Yeah, like all those conservative/evangelical/rednecks who claim 9/11 was an inside job. Right?

  • Louis

    Steve, sure, the left also have their nutters. But I’ve seen people on the right who are both birthers and truthers, and who cannot see the contradiction. And to be fair, not all con’s are like that. But right now, they seem to be particularly susceptible.

  • Louis

    Steve, sure, the left also have their nutters. But I’ve seen people on the right who are both birthers and truthers, and who cannot see the contradiction. And to be fair, not all con’s are like that. But right now, they seem to be particularly susceptible.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    conservative/evangelical/redneck

    Why is it these groups of folks are ok to ridicule and stereotype?

    Generally stereotyping is considered poor form, but not in the case of these folks. Why? They certainly aren’t the worst behaved folks on average.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    conservative/evangelical/redneck

    Why is it these groups of folks are ok to ridicule and stereotype?

    Generally stereotyping is considered poor form, but not in the case of these folks. Why? They certainly aren’t the worst behaved folks on average.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    I wonder if it’s true what I heard, that if humanity loses this case, we’ll all be forced to get bar-code tattoos on our foreheads. If so, that would certainly explain why Procter & Gamble is sponsoring the trial.

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    I wonder if it’s true what I heard, that if humanity loses this case, we’ll all be forced to get bar-code tattoos on our foreheads. If so, that would certainly explain why Procter & Gamble is sponsoring the trial.

  • Jonathan

    @31, Louis, they’re plenty capable of manufacturing it themselves. Check out Whirled Nut Daily sometime. Palin’s popularity speaks to it.

  • Jonathan

    @31, Louis, they’re plenty capable of manufacturing it themselves. Check out Whirled Nut Daily sometime. Palin’s popularity speaks to it.

  • Tom Hering

    But can she actually see Sweden from Alaska?

  • Tom Hering

    But can she actually see Sweden from Alaska?

  • steve

    tODD, #37:

    Chips, not bar codes. Vanity never loses.

  • steve

    tODD, #37:

    Chips, not bar codes. Vanity never loses.

  • steve

    Louis, #35: I would tend to agree but I think the “nutter” in all of us comes out when we perceive we’re in the minority.

  • steve

    Louis, #35: I would tend to agree but I think the “nutter” in all of us comes out when we perceive we’re in the minority.

  • Tom Hering

    steve @ 41, you’re right that conspiracy theories appeal to the marginalized. But a lot of people, of every stripe, must feel marginalized. Because conspiracy-think is the norm in American politics now (or so I keep hearing political scientists say).

  • Tom Hering

    steve @ 41, you’re right that conspiracy theories appeal to the marginalized. But a lot of people, of every stripe, must feel marginalized. Because conspiracy-think is the norm in American politics now (or so I keep hearing political scientists say).

  • Louis

    steve – not according to Jonathan Kay, national editor of the National Post: http://www.cbc.ca/q/blog/2011/05/31/q-contest-your-canadian-conspiracy-theories/

  • Louis

    steve – not according to Jonathan Kay, national editor of the National Post: http://www.cbc.ca/q/blog/2011/05/31/q-contest-your-canadian-conspiracy-theories/

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Tom (@42) said that “conspiracy-think is the norm in American politics now”. I wonder if that’s because of all the vaccines we force our children to take?

  • http://www.toddstadler.com/ tODD

    Tom (@42) said that “conspiracy-think is the norm in American politics now”. I wonder if that’s because of all the vaccines we force our children to take?

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    “I wonder if it’s true what I heard, that if humanity loses this case, we’ll all be forced to get bar-code tattoos on our foreheads. If so, that would certainly explain why Procter & Gamble is sponsoring the trial.”

    I was thinking 3M would be a more appropriate vendor for barcodes, which being from Minnesota obviously also has a Swedish connection.

    On another note, while this sort of thing deserves every bit of mockery it gets–being a publicity stunt by people generally not trained in the field they’re commenting on for political gain–it’s also worth noting as well that some of the most damaging work done to make the world a more dangerous place between the world wars was indeed (e.g. Kellogg-Briand) done under the auspices of groups that preceded the UN, and a lot of the work that’s been done to make the world a pretty dangerous place since then has been done by world “elites.”

    So as ludicrous as it seems, it’s something that those who remember history might want to watch.

  • http://www.bikebubba.blogspot.com bike bubba

    “I wonder if it’s true what I heard, that if humanity loses this case, we’ll all be forced to get bar-code tattoos on our foreheads. If so, that would certainly explain why Procter & Gamble is sponsoring the trial.”

    I was thinking 3M would be a more appropriate vendor for barcodes, which being from Minnesota obviously also has a Swedish connection.

    On another note, while this sort of thing deserves every bit of mockery it gets–being a publicity stunt by people generally not trained in the field they’re commenting on for political gain–it’s also worth noting as well that some of the most damaging work done to make the world a more dangerous place between the world wars was indeed (e.g. Kellogg-Briand) done under the auspices of groups that preceded the UN, and a lot of the work that’s been done to make the world a pretty dangerous place since then has been done by world “elites.”

    So as ludicrous as it seems, it’s something that those who remember history might want to watch.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    I always thought of conspiracies as being secretive. This is out in the open.

  • http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/Contemporary-English-Version-CEV-Bible/ sg

    I always thought of conspiracies as being secretive. This is out in the open.

  • Louis

    Oh, sg @ 26, the answer is @ 43.

  • Louis

    Oh, sg @ 26, the answer is @ 43.

  • Grace

    A FARCE indeed! This is a great piece –

    Of Ecological Bondage

    Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Mon, 05/30/2011 – 10:11

    Recently, the 3rd Nobel Laureate Symposium decided to hold a trial, charging humanity with ruining the planet. Based on the so called 9 Planetary Boundaries, a jury of 20 Nobel Laureates sat in judgment while “compelling evidence” was presented showing that “humanity may now be capable of radically altering the remarkable conditions for life on Earth.” The Planetary Boundaries approach was developed by 28 scientists, who estimated that three of the boundaries, climate change, the nitrogen cycle and biodiversity loss, have already been crossed and that several others are all ready in dangerous territory. We have all been charged with transgressing boundaries laid down by a group of scientists most people have never heard of, judged and found guilty by a gaggle of Nobel Prize winners, and been remanded to the UN for punishment. This sham trial does not represent justice but an attempt to place humanity in ecological bondage.

    Another excerpt ________________

    This is yet another transparent farce, aimed at popularizing the views of radical environmentalists, co-opted bureaucrats and warmist leaning pols. Did these buffoonish boffins think their mock trial was witty, or that it would cause the unwashed masses to fall to their knees lamenting the sins of all mankind? This group should not be allowed to judge a kindergarten art contest, let alone the environmental culpability of the whole of mankind. This also reinforces the irrelevance of the Nobel Committee and the yearly baubles it passes out. Not being content to debase the Peace Prize and the prize for literature, by loading them with transnational progressive balderdash, the rot is now spreading to taint the scientific prizes as well.

    How much weight should this proclamation be given? A quick check of the list of symposium participants reveals that, though there were some chemists, biologists and physicists present, the attendees included prize winners for literature, the president of the World Wildlife Federation, the president of the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN), several “researchers,” a documentary film maker and the Mayor of Stockholm. Oh surely we can trust this group to pass judgment on us all.”

    http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/ecological-bondage

  • Grace

    A FARCE indeed! This is a great piece –

    Of Ecological Bondage

    Submitted by Doug L. Hoffman on Mon, 05/30/2011 – 10:11

    Recently, the 3rd Nobel Laureate Symposium decided to hold a trial, charging humanity with ruining the planet. Based on the so called 9 Planetary Boundaries, a jury of 20 Nobel Laureates sat in judgment while “compelling evidence” was presented showing that “humanity may now be capable of radically altering the remarkable conditions for life on Earth.” The Planetary Boundaries approach was developed by 28 scientists, who estimated that three of the boundaries, climate change, the nitrogen cycle and biodiversity loss, have already been crossed and that several others are all ready in dangerous territory. We have all been charged with transgressing boundaries laid down by a group of scientists most people have never heard of, judged and found guilty by a gaggle of Nobel Prize winners, and been remanded to the UN for punishment. This sham trial does not represent justice but an attempt to place humanity in ecological bondage.

    Another excerpt ________________

    This is yet another transparent farce, aimed at popularizing the views of radical environmentalists, co-opted bureaucrats and warmist leaning pols. Did these buffoonish boffins think their mock trial was witty, or that it would cause the unwashed masses to fall to their knees lamenting the sins of all mankind? This group should not be allowed to judge a kindergarten art contest, let alone the environmental culpability of the whole of mankind. This also reinforces the irrelevance of the Nobel Committee and the yearly baubles it passes out. Not being content to debase the Peace Prize and the prize for literature, by loading them with transnational progressive balderdash, the rot is now spreading to taint the scientific prizes as well.

    How much weight should this proclamation be given? A quick check of the list of symposium participants reveals that, though there were some chemists, biologists and physicists present, the attendees included prize winners for literature, the president of the World Wildlife Federation, the president of the International Union for Conservation of Nature (IUCN), several “researchers,” a documentary film maker and the Mayor of Stockholm. Oh surely we can trust this group to pass judgment on us all.”

    http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/ecological-bondage

  • Stephen

    How many Nobel Laureats does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    None. Lightbulbs are now illegal since Al Gore took charge of things.

    Was Al Gore there? I can’t stand Al Gore.

  • Stephen

    How many Nobel Laureats does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    None. Lightbulbs are now illegal since Al Gore took charge of things.

    Was Al Gore there? I can’t stand Al Gore.

  • Stephen

    Al Gore does not seem to have been in attendance. Still can’t stand him.

    What’s with the italics?

  • Stephen

    Al Gore does not seem to have been in attendance. Still can’t stand him.

    What’s with the italics?

  • Tom Hering

    Grace dood it.

  • Tom Hering

    Grace dood it.

  • Tom Hering

    Todd fixed it.

  • Tom Hering

    Todd fixed it.

  • General Jack D Ripper

    ‘You do realize that in addition to fluridation of water , why there are studies underway to fluridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream; ice cream, Todd, children’s ice cream.’

  • General Jack D Ripper

    ‘You do realize that in addition to fluridation of water , why there are studies underway to fluridate salt, flour, fruit juices, soup, sugar, milk, ice cream; ice cream, Todd, children’s ice cream.’


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