The Lesbian Duplex 1: An Open Thread

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* You’re probably wondering about the name. The lesbian duplex has become a running joke on this blog since two of my posts on Debi’s book, Created To Be His Help Meet. For the backstory, you can take a look at these posts—read them Simper, Smile, and Giggle and Single Moms Turned Lesbian. I think the name suits these threads, because if Debi were right, we would all be lesbians living in duplexes.

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  • purr
  • purr

    meh it’s deleted, but basically, Niemand made a comment about how intestinal surgery is quite gross, and how the intestines will react to being cut.

    Carl Seaton wrote, and I paraphrase: “so you just want to find em grind em and throw em in the trash. you’re no better than Charles Manson’

    He also accused us, upon finding that we cannot ‘suck his bones out of his body’ and ‘crush him into little bits like a fetus’, will simply kill him with Zyklon B, Hitler style.

    Libby deleted all of his offensive posts.

  • purr

    This is awesome, she is now saying it is acceptable to kill an ‘unhealthy’ parasitic twin.

    hahahaaha

    She has absolutely no clue how she keeps arguing against herself.

  • zoey

    still giggling every time I read/type jejune.

  • fiona64

    He’s a nut case.

  • purr

    Sleepless in Austin: Man’s website offers $1,500 for non-fat, non-black, non-slut girlfriend

    Just gonna leave this here:

    http://ca.shine.yahoo.com/blogs/shine-on/sleepless-austin-man-website-offers-1-500-non-144425114.html

    That’s right, the Austin man who has compared black people to monkeys only wants to date a white, thin, chaste women. Surprised?

    The 39-year-old, who insists his real name is Romeo Rose, has created his very own website called Sleepless in Austin
    with the sole purpose of soliciting submissions for girlfriends. If
    this is all starting to sound very mechanical, that’s because it is.

    • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty — Survivor

      OMFG. Somehow, I don’t see a lot of women jumping at the chance to date such a prime specimen…

    • fiona64

      Gosh, what a pity that I’m already married … with a catch like *that* available. /snark

  • purr
    • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty — Survivor

      Holy crap, I’m about to fall over and die of the cute!

  • purr

    Mytinx’s replies to me are always so inflammatory that before I can finish commenting someone flags them.

    I think I’ve been accused of being a ‘heartless baby killer’ about 5 times already today.

    • fiona64

      I think she’s asking to be banned. Seriously. If that happens, then she can go back to LieSiteNews and whine that it happened *again,* “for no reason.”

      Feh.

      • purr

        In other news, Norm is on that thread entitled ‘Tell My Wife to Have Sex with Me’ and, ‘quelle surprise’ as you would say, he is advising women – whether they like it or not – to ‘put out’ and please their poor, sex starved husbands.

  • Lyric

    The reason why I went off on you-know-who for implying I don’t love my kids is because I’m actually a rather terrible mother. I have let one or the other of my children cry, for up to ten minutes, because I “couldn’t” get them to sleep any other way (in other words, I couldn’t be bothered to put in the effort). I have all but abandoned breastfeeding because it gives me funny sensory issues (in other words, I couldn’t be bothered to put in the effort). And my overall attitude is horrible. Which is probably why I’m up at this hour, making myself tired for no good reason: because I feel crowded and ~inconvenienced~ during the day.

    Dammit. I really dislike myself sometimes.

    • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

      Oh, bah, you are not a horrible mother. You are a new mother of twins. Sleep training makes sense, and “any other way” might not work and just drive you crazy. Breastfeeding really truly isn’t a big deal if it’s not working- check out The Skeptical OB, she has many many posts about how much breastfeeding is pushed, when there are many reasons it just doesn’t work for a lot of people. Breastfeeding has minor benefits, true, but a sane, rested mother is a greater benefit than all the breastmilk in the world. What’s important is the babies get fed, and assuming you still feed them something, they’ll be fine.

      And you’re here, taking time for yourself, because you know that a sane, has-had-time-to-self mother is a good thing for both you and your kids. Stop browbeating yourself for being human and having needs! I, the random Internet stranger, command it!

      • Lyric

        You are a new mother of twins.

        They’re seven and a half months old. The “new” excuse has surely worn out by now, if it was ever valid.

        What’s important is the babies get fed, and assuming you still feed them something, they’ll be fine.

        I have found that I really dislike feeding them solid food, because it makes an ungodly mess. I said that the reason why I was only feeding my boy one batch of cereal per day was because he didn’t cooperate with the second one. (Hey, is that a cat? A ceiling fan? What do you mean, you need my mouth open? Nope, I’m too busy being distracted, call back later.) But really, I suspect I was just feeling overwhelmed, and taking it out on him.

        I fill them up with formula, of course. But that barely counts, and it was never what they actually needed. It would be one thing if I actually had some sort of real problem providing milk, but it was purely logistics and my screwy tactile issues.

        And you’re here, taking time for yourself, because you know that a sane, has-had-time-to-self mother is a good thing for both you and your kids.

        That’s just it, though; it isn’t good for any of us for me to miss out on my sleep. Especially since I know that when I’m tired enough, I can sleep through some crying. (Yet another thing I’m profoundly ashamed of. We’re about at the stage where we should move the children into separate beds, and I’m resisting it, because we would probably have to have them in separate rooms and rely on a baby monitor for at least one of them—and I don’t trust myself not to just roll over.) I am the author of the vast majority of my problems.

      • http://gamesgirlsgods.blogspot.com/ Feminerd

        How about just mother of twins, then? I expect that’s going to be hard all the time- one baby is hard enough. 7 months is still definitely infant stage.

        Formula totally counts, by the way. It’s nutritious and counts as food for them. People exclusively breastfeed sometimes to one year- introducing cereal now is fine, but so is not pushing it overmuch. So is just feeding them formula and not worrying about solid foods yet. Any of those are fine, really. And don’t sell yourself short- logistics and sensory issues are real problems. You don’t ever have to justify why you feed your children the way you do, but if you did, I’d say sensory issues is right up there with “can’t make enough milk” as a reason to switch to formula.

        And yes, being tired isn’t good. Staying up on the Internet later than you ought is … only human, though. And if it’s the only time you really get to yourself, it’s understandable why you do it. I don’t think you should beat yourself up for it at all.

        You are not a terrible mother. You’re not. I promise. Your love for those babies shines through every post you make, even when you’re clearly exasperated at them. I don’t know how you can blame yourself for letting your children cry a whole 10 minutes (agonizing for each second, but really a very short time in the scheme of things) to teach them to sleep, or why you think you can control screwy sensory issues, but you’re doing fine from what you’ve described.

        On a total side note, is there a reason the twins couldn’t share a room, even if they had separate beds?

      • Lyric

        How about just mother of twins, then? I expect that’s going to be hard all the time- one baby is hard enough.

        Well, yes, it is, but—I don’t know. I feel like I should be better at it.

        Your love for those babies shines through every post you make, even when you’re clearly exasperated at them.

        Oh, god, have I been sounding exasperated? I don’t mean to do that. I’ve been trying to sound funny about things like the oatmeal-all-over-everywhere events. I suppose, with the internet lacking tone of voice, it just comes across as whiny and bitter.

        I don’t know how you can blame yourself for letting your children cry a
        whole 10 minutes (agonizing for each second, but really a very short
        time in the scheme of things) to teach them to sleep

        It didn’t, though. It didn’t teach them anything except that Mommy doesn’t come when they need her. I still rock them to sleep. Except for some times when they cry themselves to sleep because I’m taking care of the other one, which I feel guilty enough about.

        or why you think you can control screwy sensory issues

        The rest of the world manages fine, somehow. Why should I get a pass?

        On a total side note, is there a reason the twins couldn’t share a room, even if they had separate beds?

        They could share a room with each other, sure. The problem is fitting two cribs and a large bed into my bedroom, and still having room for dressers and getting out of bed in the morning.

        Anyhow, thank you for taking the time to talk with me. I’ll look back at all this in the morning, and hopefully I’ll be less of a pain in the butt then. Right now, I’m gonna go get some sleep.

    • http://itsmyworldcanthasnotyours.blogspot.com/ WMDKitty — Survivor

      nah, it’s okay to feel that way, and sensory issues are totally legit.

      • Lyric

        I can’t even prove the sensory issues exist. Pain would at least be a thing I could point to—although, since I have fibromyalgia, most of the pain I experience is bad data and not worth getting worked up over either. (To the point where, I am told, I have a seriously odd relationship with pain, only noticing it when it changes in intensity—I have to think for a moment to figure out if I’m hurting at any given time. So, you see, I know I can take discomfort. I should have had no trouble breastfeeding.)