One American soldier has been killed

for every day in April so that  our Ruling Classes can experiment with nation building while cozying up to (and studiously ignoring) people who do this.

Not surprisingly, our Armed Forces, strained to the breaking point by ten years of being used as lab rats in our ongoing experiments, are now massively medicated.  You would be too if you and your family were shoveled around like concrete and your life was being thrown away on a colossal exercise in futility.

Not one more drop of blood from our young men and women.  Get us out of Afghanistan now.

Strip our legislative and executive branches of all wages and earnings except their pay for their office and give it to a fund for wounded vets.  If they complain, jail them until their experimental wars are over.

  • Brent

    I’d have a lot more sympathy for our troops if they were drafted. However, they 1. Volunteered for this and 2. Knew that the govt has a track record for getting involved in ridiculous wars since the late 60′s (Vietnam, etc) and before. So, my question is, why would someone voluntarily join the military knowing good and well that this kind of stupidity would rule and ruin them?

    • Mark Shea

      Perhaps because they were young, and moved by the horror of 9/11, and generously wanted to serve their country, even when it is full of fat, dumb and happy ingrates like you?

      • Brent

        Yes, that MUST be the reason! Heaven forbid people actually think through with reason what the ruling class may require of them after signing on the dotted line, given their 50 year track record of unjust actions. I am clearly fat, dumb and happy. I know nothing.

        • Mark Shea

          It’s not that you know nothing. It’s that you don’t seem to know young people and their penchant for heroic generous acts of self-sacrifice in an hour of crisis. You are an ingrate who thinks only in terms of your own selfish calculus and spits on the graves of people whose shoes you are not worthy to polish. You are an ungrateful swine, sir. Get off my blog or I will throw you off.

          • Brent

            I’m not denying the troops’ good intentions. I view them as the girlfriend that falls in love with an abusive drunk boyfriend that they knew had those issues. Their intentions are good, but what did they expect when the boyfriend gets drunk and then beats them? Simply don’t date that type of person is all I’m saying. I’m not questioning their character, which is laudable, just their judgment in this regard.

            I don’t know why that is such a hostile viewpoint.

            • Jared

              “I don’t know why that is such a hostile viewpoint.”

              Complete lack of respect and compassion for , and a condescending attitude towards, the bravest men and women in the country for starters.

    • ds

      They bought their tickets. They knew what they were getting into. I say, let ‘em crash!

      • Mark Shea

        I’m hoping you are mocking, not agreeing with, Brent’s grotesquely selfish comment.

    • http://www.chesterton.org Sean P. Dailey

      Thank you for your kind and informative comments, Brent. I, a veteran, who volunteered, and thousands of other volunteers — vets and active duty personnel — still count our service to our country honorable, despite being misused by the ruling classes, and despite being sneered at by jerks like you. Indeed, the fact that I am my brother servicemen and women put our asses on the line for selfish ingrates like yourself makes our service that much more honorable. So thanks.

      • http://www.chesterton.org Sean P. Dailey

        Crap. “…I and my brother servicemen…”

    • Richard Johnson

      Brent, I can tell you why my daughter joined the Army a couple of years ago. She had graduated from a local university with a degree in Law Enforcement, and found herself facing an economy where getting work as a cop in any community was going to be next to impossible. Many communities were cutting their force, not hiring new people. Those who advertised openings often had 300-400 applicants for 2 or 3 openings.

      A friend suggested she talk with an Army recruiter. When she came home from that visit we had a very long talk about this choice and the dangers that went with it. Both of her grandfathers were vets (WW II and Korea), and her mother and I related stories we had heard from them.

      In the end she went with the Army, feeling it was the best opportunity for her in what had become a very hostile hiring environment. Today she is flying back to the states after completing a year assignment in South Korea, and after signing her re-enlistment contract yesterday for a six-year hitch. She is planning on going career, and hopes to make flight engineer in the next few months. If she does then, when she deploys in September of 2013 she may find herself flying into hostile fire.

      Brent, you said, “…why would someone voluntarily join the military knowing good and well that this kind of stupidity would rule and ruin them?”

      Jesus promised His followers that the world would hate them as the world hated Him. He promised His followers that they would be persecuted in His name’s sake. He promised His followers that they might even face death because they chose to follow Him.

      My question to you, Brent, is why would someone voluntarily follow Christ knowing good and well that things like this could well happen? Moreover, when such persecution comes why would anyone complain about it when they *knew* it would happen?

      Just as Christians fight against persecution when they *know* from reading Scripture that such was bound to happen, many of us who support (or are in) the Armed Forces of our nation still work against their misuse in areas such as Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran.

  • MG42

    Mark: 1
    Brent: 0

    • Martial Artist

      I can’t decide whether I concur in your score, or think you have shortchanged Mr. Shea.

      Pax et bonum,
      Keith Töpfer, LCDR, USN [ret]

  • Ted Seeber

    I would still like to see the United States attempt to be the first country in the world to legislate Augustinian Just War Theory. After 1600 years, we now have the technology to do it, the bad side though would be the effect it would have on globalization and free trade (because to be effective, Augustinian Just War Theory would tactically require guarded borders with checkpoint inspectors inspecting every cargo vehicle greater in size than a VW bug). But at least it would keep our soldiers at home, where they’d be safe until somebody actually attempts an invasion.

  • ChrisKABA

    Don’t remember where I saw the article, but I remember seeing that the DoD admitted that the terrorists killed to coalition casualties in the last year is something like 1 to 470.

    Which I would think means that either the US has won the war, and it’s time for our troops to come home, or Afghanistan is kicking the “world’s sole superpowers” butt, and it’s time for our troops to come home.

    • Ted Seeber

      A kill ratio of 1:470 means nothing to a people who will fight until their own extermination- 470 lives for every American life is a good price to them.

  • William

    For me, Daniel Nichols hits it on the head right here http://caelumetterra.wordpress.com/2012/03/23/heroes-and-villains/


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