Five Sources to Detox from…

…if you wish to escape from the veil of unreality Movement Conservatism has woven for itself and begin to treat with reality.

And, in particular, if you want to treat with reality and get your news mainly or exclusively from FOX, you should realize that they are, more than any other single source, the people responsible for making the right stupid. Find other sources to balance out the amazing stream of disinformation they create. And before you say it, yes, I realize Alternet is a ritually impure source for “conservatives”. That’s kinda my point. Listen to voices outside the Bubble of Unreality in which the Right largely lives. This is called “thinking critically”. Then look at things in light of the teaching of holy Church and see which pieces of human wisdom and tradition line up with the Church.

Unless you want to keep living in unreality–and losing.

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  • Mike Walsh

    Thanks for yet another sally in your ongoing crusade against straw-men. Who else, I ask,will defend us from them?

    • Can we start a “Mark Shea Straw Bingo”?

      Let’s see… I need one more Ayn Rand and another “Libertarians want to eat the poor” to win. How you doing?

      • Tim in Cleveland

        Did I miss the Ayn Rand and “Libertarians want to eat the poor” posts? I love those posts.

        • Well we have to reset the cards every 2 weeks, that’s why mine are still unfilled. 😉

          • Will

            And there is the mantra for the Mark Shea Drinking Game, “Libertarianism is for people with no children.”

            • Tim in Cleveland

              Alcohol and posts criticizing Libertarian ideals? This game just gets better and better.

        • Will

          He keeps conflating libertarians and Objectivists, and expecting us to go “Eeek! The boogeywoman!” Never mind that Rand denounced libertarians as “concept stealers” for NOT basing their positions on her philosophy.

          • Well he lives in the unreality of Seattle so we can’t be TOO hard on him. 😉 Last I heard, they list everyone to the right of Stalin as libertarian.

            • Mark Shea

              Yeah. I’m just a latte sipping hipster.

              • Dang, I had expresso in the Shea betting pool.

                Who had latte?

      • Mark Shea

        No. Libertarians mostly just don’t think about the poor. Or children.

        • Awww man, that didn’t help me at all. Tim, Will, did either of you get a square off that?

          Actually libertarians do think about the poor, and frequently they’re concerned that many “cures” for poverty are going to be worse than the disease.

  • John Barnes

    AlterNet’s critique of National Review brought this Edmund Burke quote to mind: “Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites…in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”

  • Tim in Cleveland

    It’s hard to take seriously an article whose first word is “a**h***s.”

  • To be fair, in any list of Fox News assholes, Alan Colmes needs to be near the top, perhaps tied with his former partner, Sean Hannity. Colmes is living proof that the Right has no monopoly on assholes.

    • Mark Shea

      No argument from me. Nobody here is likely to be doing that, though.

  • Rosemarie


    The second article is about how lots of cable figures today act like real jerks. I guess I’m missing how their personal attitude relates to the information they convey. Just because someone is arrogant or has major personality flaws doesn’t mean that what he says isn’t true. What exactly is the connection?

    I’m not saying there are no jerks on Fox News. Yes there are – both liberal and conservative. I’m just not getting how this proves that the channel creates an “amazing stream of disinformation.” I know Fox has never promoted birtherism or other loony fever swamp rumors about the president. Yes, some (but not all) of the talking heads there support waterboarding but the channel also unquestioningly spouted the Obama administration’s propaganda about the strip-search scanners when they were first rolled out at airports. I don’t remember Fox News ever questioning them since, even though their long-term safety has never been proven and they are ineffective for their stated goal of detecting something like the underwear bomb (which was the incident that the gov’t used as an excuse for introducing the machines). So if they’re not question Bush-era propaganda about “enhanced interrogation,” they’re also not questioning Obama-era propaganda. Like any news source, you have to view Fox News critically and seek out other sources of information.

  • B.E. Ward

    The Karl Rove/Fox thing looked disturbingly staged. Maybe a little ‘wink wink’ to their actions in 2000? There was a cameraman positioned at the end of the hall she turned into!

  • ivan_the_mad

    “Intellectual vulgarity attracts voters like flies.” – Don Colacho

  • Jared B.

    The irony behind many conservative’s trust of FOX News is that people recognize the disease but not the cure. We get that every MSM is biased, and that the bias is not equal opportunity: it pretty much all leans to the Left, with MSNBC tilted far to one end and everything else falling into line somewhere behind that. Conservatives know that FOX News is biased, but it’s biased in the opposite direction, and that’s seen as somehow balancing it out: let everyone else be biased to the left, but so long as there is *just one* major news source that leans to the right, watching & listening to that is considered to BE the detox…not something that one ever needs to detox FROM.

    The assumption is that we’re all saturated with the liberal/progressive media & cultural messages that maximum doses of conservative media will at best make things even. But people underestimate their own ability to tune things out, and before ya know it we’re not watching some FOX to get some critical perspective about whatever they said on CNN…we don’t even remember what channel CNN is on, but we still tell ourselves that us FOX News watchers are soooo more objective than those MSNBC watchers over there.

    My takeaway: it’s not just the media producers that we need to turn a critical objective eye to: it’s the media consumers, ourselves. Media bias can rest in the minds of the listeners just as much (I suspect more) than in the speakers.

  • Noah D

    Waitaminute…’The Media is Biased’ is a source we need to detox from? Really?