Conservative Christians in the Military Are Going to Increasingly Find Themselves in a Bind

…as will a country dependent on the self-sacrificial honor of such men and women when the anti-Christian radicals in our Ruling Class begin their Long March through the military in a systematic anti-Christian pogrom.  If you are looking for the sorts of people our Ruling Classes are beginning to consult in order to “deal” with the “problem” of believers in the ranks, look no further than this dispassionate and objective Mikey Weinstein, who writes things like:

If these fundamentalist Christian monsters of human degradation … and tyranny cannot broker or barter your acceptance of their putrid theology, then they crave for your universal silence in the face of their rapacious reign of theocratic terror. Indeed, they ceaselessly lust, ache, and pine for you to do absolutely nothing to thwart their oppression. Comply, my friends, and you become as monstrously savage as are they. I beg you, do not feed these hideous monsters with your stoic lethargy, callousness and neutrality. Do not lubricate the path of their racism, bigotry, and prejudice. Doing so directly threatens the national security of our beautiful nation.

and who…

cites Dr. James Dobson—the famous Christian founder of Focus on the Family—as “illustrating the extremist, militant nature of these virulently homophobic organizations’ rhetorically-charged propaganda.” Regarding those who teach orthodox Christian beliefs from the Bible, Weinstein concludes, “Let’s call these ignoble actions what they are: the senseless and cowardly squallings of human monsters.”

Let’s be clear.  As a Catholic, I’m not super-keen on Evangelicals subtly pulling rank on subordinates to pressure them into going to an Evangelical Bible Study.  And I’m sure non-Christian troops can find their believer fellow troops irritating at times.  But in Grown-up World, there are ways of dealing with such annoyances without declaring all Christians who share their faith “monsters”.  Personally, I find I have much more in common with a believer of any stripe than with guys like Weinstein who would absolutely purge the ranks of some of the most dedicated and self-sacrificial troops for the sake of ideological purity.  If guys like him carry the day (and our Ruling Classes give every indication he will eventually) then the military is going to become an intensely hostile environment in which Christians will no longer, in conscience, be able to function.  And when you have an all-volunteer military, that is a massively stupid approach to recruitment.

Can our Ruling Class really be so stupid?  Oh yes. Yes they can.

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  • Roderick

    Considering that believers might be the last refuge of resistance to the Empire’s bloody perpetual war, it makes perfect sense that they would want to purge them from our all-volunteer military.

    • Alex Winston

      What? That doesn’t make any sense. More have been killed in the name of religion than from any other source.

      • Nemesis

        No, more have been killed in the name of government than from any other source. Study history much?

  • moonglow48

    From what I have read so far about him, he isn’t talking about mainstream Christians…he is talking about very extreme ones that hate and blame the Jews for Jesus’ death and are literally forcing their views on others. I didn’t know there were that many out there with this extremest type of views. I am just learning about him so maybe I am wrong here…so far just read one interview done by a Jewish magazine with him. He said in this 08 interview his best friend and his wife are both Christians. I would just suggest doing a little more research as I am, to find out exactly what he is talking about and get the whole story first before passing judgment.

    • chezami

      James Dobson is not an extremist and, like most Evangelicals, is about as philo-semitic as they come.

      • Alex Winston

        Yes, he is an extremist.

  • joegoldstein

    It’s pay-back time !!

  • Rosemarie

    +J.M.J+

    What will happen next should be obvious. A gay or non-Christian person in the military will “bait” a chaplain or Christian comrade into discussing Jesus or religion or morality, then cry about being “proselytized” and before you can say “set up” – a court martial, natch. Great way to purge the ranks of “undesirables.”

    • Alex Winston

      Paranoid much?

      • Rosemarie

        +J.M.J+

        Nope, just a realist. That kind of thing has happened before. Here’s an example of a gay activist entrapping a counselor:

        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/8542895/Christian-counsellors-attempt-to-cure-gay-man-was-malpractice.html

        • Alex Winston

          You can possibly come up with one example? You are paranoid and delusional and quite likely not very bright. Take off your tin foil hat and get an education.

          • Rosemarie

            +J.M.J+

            Your ad hominem attacks on me do not change the fact that this counselor was targeted by a gay activist with an agenda, who misled her and used it against her to get her into trouble. There is no reason why this kind of thing couldn’t happen anywhere else, including the US military.

            One example isn’t enough for you? Okay, then there’s a case of the chaplain at George Washington University’s Newman Center who is being targeted by gay activists there for stating the Catholic Church’s teaching about homosexuality:

            http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/7/two-gay-gwu-students-want-priest-removed-campus/

            Though not exactly the same situation, it is an example of activists trying to get a member of the clergy penalized for his views on homosexuality. Again, something similar could easily happen in the military.

            As for my education, I graduated magna cum laude from college, so stop assuming things about people you don’t know. It just makes you look foolish.

            • Rosemarie

              +J.M.J+

              Oh, and I didn’t just “come up” with these examples to support a baseless, paranoid delusion. I knew about them before I wrote my first comment above. That’s exactly what I was thinking about while I typed it. Like I said, I’m a realist; I observe what has happened in the past and use that to deduce what may happen in the future.

              So far, the facts are on my side. Some gay activists have been known to target and attempt to ruin their ideological opponents in real life. Now, please explain why no gay activist would ever do something like that again, particularly in the military. So far all you’ve done is hurl personal insults at me. You’ll have to to better than that to argue your side.

              • Alex Winston

                Christians aren’t being persecuted. You are delusional. They weren’t insults, based on your posts they are facts. Christians have bullied and murdered for centuries. Quite ironic that now you are worried about it happening to you. BTW…Sexual orientation is not a choice. Religion and ignorance are lifestyle choices that can be changed. Insane beliefs don’t get to dictate the laws of society.

                • chezami

                  And you’re gone. Goodbye. Don’t need no bigots.

                • Rosemarie

                  +J.M.J+

                  Yep, just more personal attacks. Oh well. If anyone ever reads this thread I’ll leave it up to them to decide who argued based on facts and who acted like an immature bully.

  • Alex Winston

    You mean people that will go kill strangers, women and children when commanded by other strangers are immoral? What a shock!

  • Alex Winston

    If you are a devout Christian you wouldn’t be out murdering people. Christian…Christ…remember him? How many did he say it was okay to murder? Hurt? Maim? Chapter and verse of endorsement of war by Jesus.

  • Alex Winston

    Get rid of the chaplain…get rid of the problem. Are imams available? Buddhist monks? Shintoists? If not, let each soldier seek out his own holy man on his own time and dime.

  • Alex Winston

    Because the “homosexuals” protecting you right now are bad?

  • Alex Winston

    That’ll never happen.