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Application of the law is becoming increasingly deranged in our society.
There are so many laws that, odds are, most of us are unknowing felons on an average day. As the Eastern Bloc regimes well understood, once most everything is illegal and most everyone is a criminal, the state has freer rein than ever to punish whom it wants to punish and reward whom it wants to reward and threaten whom it wants to threaten, according to little more than caprice and whim.
That caprice and whim seems, in our day, inclined to let people skate when they’re: a) rich or powerful or otherwise within the charmed circle; and/or b) their offense was grave. Whereas the Javert mask comes on when we’re instead dealing with: a) the little people; and/or b) trivial offenses.
Asking for clarification here. Did he write his messages on bank property? Did he in fact commit vandalism, even of public property? Because if he did, then I have no sympathy for his approach to his protest.
I have a right to hold a sign on a public street corner if I don’t interfere with others and clean up after myself. What I don’t have a right to do is to leave my sign attached to public or private property and expect it to be left alone in my absence. If costs were involved to remove his protest ‘sign’ in his absence then I guess that might meet with the definition of vandalism. Graffiti, usually considered vandalism, isn’t freedom of speech either, even on public property.
Is intentional farting considered vandalism? What if you write the message in mud from the bottom of your shoe? What if instead of a message, one simply kicks the dust from his sandals when leaving a place? Sidewalk chalk is no more permanent than any of that, so clearly the banks problem is not with some huge cost or destruction of property, their problem is with the specific message. That should make it either an issue of free speech, OR a non-issue. Crossing my fingers that the judge has limited free speech arguments because 1) they aren’t relevant to vandalism and 2) he already knows this isn’t vandalism anyway.
That was my point. If this is vandalism then free speech doesn’t apply and there is no need for knee-jerk hysteria and presenting only half the story details that fortify the hysteria. Just because it’s washable chalk doesn’t make it a non issue since it can look awful. I have seen stuff written in sidewalk chalk by kids on their driveways that is still there weeks later. It takes water and elbow grease and usually a brush to clean it off and all of that translates into $ and furthers any case for vandalism.
And so prison for 13 years? Seriously?
He faces 13 counts of vandalism with all potential sentences added together. Leading with the max. possible sentence is just more of the hysteria of the author. He’ll never even get a fraction of that unless he has a criminal history.
Wow, just wow. Thank you for providing a textbook illustration of the more-and-more ubiquitous slave mentality that has this military veteran wistfully daydreaming of expatriation from the United States more frequently with each passing day. I can just picture someone like you in a previous incarnation looking at the dying men on Golgotha and saying to your fellow hypocrites “They deserved it because they were criminals. What they did was against the law of Caesar.”
Thank you for your service. But if you owned a business and someone kept writing negative stuff about you on the sidewalk outside I bet you would be cleaning it up pronto and getting p.o’d in the process. And if you were paying someone else to do it I bet you’d be hoping for a judgment too.
If it was fifth we’d all be drunk. You’re engaging in the worse sort of legalism, that which uses the letter of the law to justify violating every precept of actual justice and morality known intuitively to any person with the slightest shred of ethical compass.
First, we all know that MOST American banking executives, and certainly their political benefactors in Washington DC, deserve themselves to be in prison right now. If you could take a real poll of all Americans, there is no doubt that we would all overwhelmingly agree on this point: that the financial and political classes deserve genuine, tangible punishment for their many transgressions against the American people, starting with the bi-partisan bank “bail-outs” of 2008.
But let’s put that aside. Even if the banking class were pristine in their ethical judgment and behavior, and had not done everything in their power to help career politicians destroy any semblance of a democratic republic from the geographic space that used to be the United States of America, you’re talking about putting a man in PRISON for THIRTEEN YEARS for CHALK SCRIBBLINGS.
And you call yourself a Christian? Let me engage in a little rank hypocrisy of my own: I desperately wish people like you could spend just one WEEK in incarceration–county jail or prison–to discover a shocking fact: that there is more actual Christian faith to be found behind bars in America than in the “free” streets of “civil” society. And I know this first-hand.
And please don’t thank me for my military service. Nearly ten years after receiving my honorable discharge, and living as a civilian in America, I am embarrassed that I ever wasted my time serving in military uniform, and could not recommend in good conscience that any young American follow my example by foolishly volunteering to sacrifice years of their life for such a reprehensible group of selfish, oblivious, cowardly, indolent hypocrites as the American public.
I feel sorry for you and your bitterness.
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