This story of an investigative journalist…

…who was looking into the Obama Administration’s threats against, spying on, and intimidation of journalists, and who was killed last week under spectacularly mysterious circumstances after warning that the FBI was tailing him, is so totally super mega not suspicious or anything.  I mean we are talking emphatically and stentoriously NOT SUSPICIOUS OR *ANYTHING*.  So just shut up!  Our President is just and wise.  Barack Obama is the kindest, warmest, bravest, most wonderful human being I have ever known in my life.  Certainly the state would never use the raw power it has granted itself to secretly and unilaterally order the death of American citizens without evidence, arrest, trial, judge, jury, or verdict in order to kill snoopy reporters in the wake of the spectacular embarrassment caused by Snowden and Greenwald.  That could *never* happen.  Since when has the American government ever acted corruptly?  And everybody knows that Democrats would never oversee a ruthless political machine that coldly trades murder of the innocent for the sake of power.  Only Republicans do that–because the two parties are so very very different.  Ask any Obama supporter.  So the press should not, if they know what’s good for them, investigate this too closely.  Better to just let it lie.  Too much information upsets people and gives them Rebellious Thoughts.  Obama is just and wise the State is keeping us all safe.

  • Fabio Paolo Barbieri

    I have been thinking bad thoughts about the equally mysterious death of Andrew Breitbart, whom I did not even like, but who shared with Mr.Hastings this bad habit of looking where people would rather he didn’t.

    • Newp Ort

      Hmmm…if you exclude the smoking, bad diet, previous heart condition and enlarged heart at the time of his death it IS quite mysterious!

      Yet the liberal lapdog media insist he died of a heart attack!

      • Newp Ort

        And the lack of suspicion itself – very suspicious!

        Yes, Fabio, you may be onto something here. It’s like an onion! There are layers, and the deeper you go, the more it stinks!

        • Newp Ort

          And lest you doubt my objectivity, I did not even like him either.

          • Fabio Paolo Barbieri

            Yes, I know, nothing to see here, move on.

            • Newp Ort

              Seriously, never liked his politics but Breitbart seems to me to have been a pretty good guy.

              And do you really think anything about his death is mysterious?

  • Sean P. Dailey

    In Chicago, people mysteriously commit suicide if they have a lot of evidence in big cases. This happened during the Blago trial and other high profile trials.

    Obama is from Chicago. Just sayin’,

    • Newp Ort

      The suicide in the Blago trial was a man who’d suffered depression for a while and had previously attempted to end his life.

      Any others you’d care to list?

    • Sean P. Dailey

      Um, yeah, that’s what the press reports said.

      And there was more than one “suicide” during that era.

  • Bren R

    “Obama is just and wise the State is keeping us all safe. Obama is just and wise the State is keeping us all safe. Obama is just and wise the State is keeping us all safe.”

    • Joseph

      You are safe, my son. – Obama

  • Ian Bibby

    I didn’t give much thought to the idea that Andrew Breitbart’s abrupt and mysterious death was actually an act of murder, but this really makes me suspect that he was.

  • Dave

    It seems pretty unlikely, from what we know of him, and from the fact that several hours before his death, he said that the Feds were investigating him and that he had to go into hiding, that he decided to kill himself. Also, according to an eyewitness, the car was “exploding” before he even hit the tree.

    Your tax dollars at work…

    • chezami

      You need to stop indulging your suspicious nature. This is super duper mega NOT fishy or anything.

  • http://blog.goliard.us/ Blog Goliard

    I thought I was finally starting to get good at distinguishing between legitimate warnings that something bad is afoot, and loony conspiracy theories. That started to change around September 11th of last year.

    The ignorant and deranged and wicked still aren’t right about, say, the Moon landings or 9/11. I should hope that still goes without saying. But the range of conspiracy-esque claims that I’m comfortable dismissing out of hand sure has shrunk; and I know I’m far from alone.

    • Stu

      You are definitely not alone. As the resident conspiracy theory debunker in my circles, Increasingly I have become alarmed when I might turn on Michael Savage and agree with him on such things.

  • Pavel Chichikov

    Anything here besides innuendo?

    • Joseph

      Good thing you don’t question what you’re told, no matter how suspicious things may seem. Congratulations, you’re safe.

      • Pavel Chichikov

        I don’t? Did I ever tell you that?

      • Pavel Chichikov

        Although my skepticism must count for something if I question what “Joseph” tells me.

        • http://blog.goliard.us/ Blog Goliard

          If I’ve learned anything from the folks with “Question Authority” bumper stickers on their cars, it’s that one should never question the exhortation to question authority.

          • Pavel Chichikov

            Yeah. Personally, I find it difficult to imagine the existence of domestic hit-squads in the US. People are terrified enough by IRS audits.

            • http://blog.goliard.us/ Blog Goliard

              It’s difficult, but not impossible, to imagine.

              Governments have inconvenient people rubbed out all the time, and the truth doesn’t always come out in the end. (There are still an incredible number of unresolved questions surrounding the assassination of Ninoy Aquino, for instance.) If that sort of thing couldn’t happen here–and it probably…still…I hope…can’t–it’s only because we the people don’t allow it to happen. Eternal vigilance is required.

              So, when something looks suspicious–and this death certainly looks suspicious on the surface–it’s appropriate to note that, and to call for a full investigation, and not simply rest on the comfortable presumption that it couldn’t happen here. As I noted elsewhere, the universe of hypotheticals that I’m willing to dismiss out of hand has gotten much smaller lately…and not without reason.

              At the same time, it’s quite right for you to insist that we be just as skeptical of the skeptics as they are of the government/official story/etc.

              (There. Is that enough waffle for one post?)

              • Newp Ort

                What kind of investigation?

                • http://blog.goliard.us/ Blog Goliard

                  The press doing its job will be a good start.

                  Which is may well happen in this case, since it was one of their fellow investigative journalists who died.

            • Dennis Mahon

              Why, Pavel? They’ve existed several times before – both in this country and in others.

    • Newp Ort

      The lack of any evidence besides innuendo is itself evidence that evidence besides innuendo is being suppressed.

      • Pavel Chichikov

        A wonderful straight line, but to follow it up may result in a kind of brain worm.

      • chezami

        The way you find evidence is by investigating. The jury is still out on whether anybody in our supine lapdog media will do that. The last one who tried died under spectacularly mysterious circumstances shortly after saying he was being tailed by the State. The State denies. You’re fine with that.

        • Newp Ort

          You done any investigation aside from reading pajamas media?

          How bout the LAPD, who assert no wrongdoing? Are they also LAPDogs (LOL) for the feds?

          or the journalists who sought out independent auto crash experts who said gas fires/explosions/thrown engines are unusual but definitely not unheard of? Did the feds get to them too – ye gads, the conspiracy is vast!

          After sufficient explanation has been found that there was no wrongdoing (if such a thing even exists for you) will you post some acknowledgement or retraction? Or will this post simply disappear like your post repeating false accusations of Whoopi Goldberg? (that part of your “new leaf”?)

        • Chesire11

          You investigate when there is evidence that a crime has been committed. You don’t investigate in hopes that a crime will show up. That would be abuse of power.

          A journalist was killed in a car crash. The LAPD has found nothing to indicate a crime has taken place. End of story…unless you’re HOPING, for partisan political purposes, that a crimes was committed, but of course that would be decidedly un-Christian.

  • Mark S. (not for Shea)

    It’s certainly very suspicious to say the least. Contrary to what Hollywood shows us, cars don’t explode that easily. Not impossible, of course, but really hard to do.

    http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/06/18/journalist-whose-article-gave-obama-cause-to-kick-out-mcchrystal-dies/

    • Pavel Chichikov

      Do you have any direct knowledge of the circumstances? If so, there are law enforcement officials you can contact.

      • Dave

        No one has proof, of course, but the chances of a guy’s car having his gas pedal get stuck and start to explode before it even hits anything (this, after he had just announced that the Feds were investigating him and he was going into hiding) just randomly don’t strike me as very high. Unless you are saying that the whole story is made up, and Hastings is in fact not dead?

        • Pavel Chichikov

          If it were possible to solve a question of death by inferences we wouldn’t need the police.

          There are alternative possible explanations. You might start with your premises, short of excluding the fact of this person’s death.

          • Dave

            What are these alternate explanations? The only semi- plausible one I could think of is that he had some very bad personal problems and decided to kill himself, but thought it would be great to make it look like an assassination, complete with exploding car and everything.

            • Pavel Chichikov

              I’m not familiar with the circumstances, but for example, are we certain that the video footage shows the accident that killed this person? Is there a possibility of mechanical failure? Of suicide? What was his emotional state? What do we know of this person’s personal life? What other investigations was he undertaking? Was there anything in his personal life which would cause someone to tamper with the car? Could it be a matter of personal revenge? Was there anyone else who was accustomed to using the car, or otherwise had access to it? If there was a murder, was it murder by mistake – that is, was someone else the target, perhaps someone who also drove this vehicle or the same model of auto?

              How accurate are the stories reporting the death?

              These are all uninformed hypotheticals. There must certainly be other factors to be excluded.

            • Chesire11

              That is the last defense of every crackpot theory since “Chariots of the Gods”, and probably far beyond. Offer a story that fits a handful of (unconfirmed) claims, then challenge skeptics to PROVE that there’s a better explanation.

              i.e. The Atacama Desert drawings MUST be landing strips for flying saucers! For what other could they possibly have been drawn?

      • Mark S. (not for Shea)

        Other than what’s reported in the media, no. I’m certainly skeptical. But it’s an all-around weird situation. You can make a car expode, but it’s not that easy to do these days with all the built-in safety features. Contact the LAPD? No thanks. I’d rather not poke that particular bear when I’m too poor to afford good bear traps.

  • Pavel Chichikov

    It is much more interesting to invent a story than to know what one is talking about, if there is no necessity to find out what actually happened.

    Life is not a film script.

  • Pavel Chichikov

    I know – I’m ruining a good story.

  • Newp Ort

    Pavel, thank you for being the lone non-nut voice in this thread. No longer lone, tough. This is an incredibly dumb post period, and unbelievably dumb for Mark.

    • Pavel Chichikov

      I think people may be used to story lines created by professional script writers, and apparently hyper-suspicion attracts big audiences.

      But even so, there’s a Russian saying: He lies like an eye witness.

    • Stu

      At this point, I see no reason to connect the dots and claim that Hastings was “silenced.” But for anyone not to recognize that the timing is a bit interesting is a bit “tone deaf.” There have been quite a few interesting revelations of the last few month regarding some things that have been going on in the government. Things that years ago I would have easy said would never happen. Yet here we are.

      I think people asking questions in events like this are a good thing. It shows concern.

      • chezami

        Agreed. I’m not saying we know anything. I’m saying it looks damn fishy and that this will be a test of the media’s willingness to investigate or just (literally) bury the story and look the other way.

        • Newp Ort

          So they have the story, but they’re going to dig a hole in the ground, put the story in it and shovel dirt over it?

  • Chesire11

    Evidence?

    Didn’t think so.

    Again, we have suspicion being represented as evidence of something nefarious. It is an inversion of reason. Rather than inferring a theory from the facts, a theory/suspicion is embraced, and then facts are interpreted in light of that theory. Those that fit are then considered to be proof. Anything that is unsupported, or contradicted by the facts is then dismissed with an insistence that they must be assumed to be true unless the skeptic is able to offer a more compelling interpretation.

    This is PRECISELY the sort of process that leads to the “9-11 was an inside job,” and “the moon landings were filmed on a Hollywood sound stage” lunacies.


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